Board 8 > Elden Ring Mafia Topic 8

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Sheep007
03/26/22 5:56:57 PM
#1:


  1. Bat
  2. Ben
  3. Changmas
  4. Chris
  5. Corrik
  6. Crescent
  7. IGCD
  8. isquen
  9. Marth
  10. Mzero
  11. Panth
  12. Red
  13. Sultan
  14. Ulti


LD1 Scare - Jumping TOWN Vanilla
KN1 Death - Obligatory Volcano Area - TOWN Vanilla
KD2 Sbell - Why do you advertise who wrote your lore if you never tell us what the lore is - MAFIA Vote Freezer

With 14 alive it's 8 to lynch

Day ends at 8PM EST so like 2 hours?

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 5:57:41 PM
#2:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Anyway who wants a town cookie

what is the big, huge, amazingly alarming problem with panthera counter voting me here

it's pretty big


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Sheep007
03/26/22 5:58:16 PM
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wait I am a player not Bat oops

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changmas
03/26/22 5:59:11 PM
#4:


Sheep007 posted...
wait I am a player not Bat oops

this is a make your own playerlist mafia game and unfortunately you've removed yourself. better luck next time

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Isquen
03/26/22 6:01:01 PM
#5:


Oops, didn't realize we swapped over. Anyway, point from T6P480 remains - the "what's wrong with this picture" claim.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:02:42 PM
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meh, I'll just say it. You don't tend to want to claim your only claimed scanning power who just so happens to correct the record on your vanilla status in a game where 15 of the 17 players have claimed in some way or are dead.

I feel like Panthera just decided to go for it here as scum lol

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:02:59 PM
#7:


you don't tend to want to kill*, not claim, oops

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PunishedBen
03/26/22 6:03:08 PM
#8:


Panthera acknowledged you had a scan on him then tried top say you were scum anyway

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PunishedBen
03/26/22 6:03:45 PM
#9:


Literally my internet froze and my message wouldnt post for 30 seconds. I deserve that cookie :(

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:04:02 PM
#10:


Okay Ben you can be town instead of 3p now.

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:04:23 PM
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UnderUrMattress posted...
I'll start out by saying I think Ulti is town. I'm not sure if I agree with his theory that Crescent and Isquen are scum together, but it actually holds a little bit of water because Isquen's reaction to Crescent was a bit over the top and he chose to vote her over Panthera or anyone else that he had in his pile. Something is off about that interaction and I feel like Ulti giving that food for thought comes in good faith. I do think Crescent is still fairly towny but I'm paying mind to all the attention on her, as I feel the bulk of it comes in good faith and for now I won't defend her too much.

Then I'm going to say at least one mafia in SBell, Sultan, and MZero. Probably exactly one. SBell pushes on three people but ultimately decides to plant his vote on Sultan. MZero calls his reads calculated and votes him for that. The way I see it is that either A. SBell is scum that MZero has correctly called out. B. Sultan is scum that SBell has correctly called out. Or C. MZero is capitalizing on two townies that are at each other's throats. I did say SBell had a towny post, but at this point I think it's just because he made me laugh. Sultan had a weird start and I'm still not in love with everything he's posting, but I think MZero might be right. RN I'd say the plausibility of the scenarios above from most to least are A>B>C.

Still not entirely amused by Panth, but at this point I feel that vote is in vain as others seem to mostly be dismissing my thoughts in that area and/or have a townlean on that spot.

Um yeah let's try this.

##Vote: SBell
This is a post which Marth made in topic 2. Just reminding everyone. This is now a draw your own conclusions Mafia game

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:04:40 PM
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Like yeah, if he was so sure I was scum dude just calls me a liar so he might have some chance of doing good this game lol

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:06:01 PM
#13:


I didn't dismiss your thoughts, Marth. I saw you. I pounced during the night.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:06:57 PM
#14:


Sheep - Corrik is either

a) town who loves panthera too much
b) scum who is defending panthera the only decently plausible way he can

not sure which tbh

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/26/22 6:07:01 PM
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undefined posted...
The part where they didn't mention who they doctored last night or explained the "where'd you go last night?" Or something. I still haven't looked over the claim with a fine-toothed comb.


If you read it he said moon...

Working my way through all the walls but I did catch this one

(Didn't know we switched topics)

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:09:49 PM
#16:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Sheep - Corrik is either

a) town who loves panthera too much
b) scum who is defending panthera the only decently plausible way he can

not sure which tbh
I'm also not sure which but I do agree these are pretty much the criteria (regardless of Panth's alignment). I think the post(s) where he starts saying that Panth is showing one of his biggest scumtells are... interesting.

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Crescent-Moon
03/26/22 6:10:35 PM
#17:


Oh I was posting in the wrong topic

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Crescent-Moon
03/26/22 6:11:42 PM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...
meh, I'll just say it. You don't tend to want to claim your only claimed scanning power who just so happens to correct the record on your vanilla status in a game where 15 of the 17 players have claimed in some way or are dead.

I feel like Panthera just decided to go for it here as scum lol
I said something like this... In the other topic oops.

It doesn't really play to vote the scanner claim here.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:12:40 PM
#19:


I feel like all of that was like super wifom. I will also respect town panthera and pray he is still not wrong about town chris as town, despite my changes over the years

thoughts and prayers

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:12:54 PM
#20:


Marth actually looks slightly worse on reread so far. Passes the vibe check with flying colours, the content/pro-town check, not so much. Gonna dig a bit more into this.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/26/22 6:13:34 PM
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Panthera posted...
y ability is infinite use which is a bit odd but I guess it's to guard against a crazy scum team that holds onto their poison for later in the game. Oh, and I targeted Crescent night 1 because I figured with how accepted as town she was that scum might pay her a visit and I didn't fully trust Chris and if he was poisoned I could potentially cure it night 2 anyway and get a confirm out of it (I was guessing on targets being notified, but that's how it worked when I was town poisoner in Godzilla mafia) assuming it works that way, which is a nice back up.


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Panthera
03/26/22 6:13:35 PM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...


Well isnt that an unfortunate coincidence if that turns out to be true. I suppose it is true a scum Chris could decide, after one of his members of scum is shot dead, to claim power just for the fun when you were probably already on your way. Of course the truth is that I was just being transparent with my night action.

No, like I said I assume you guessed something was up since it wasn't hard entirely subtle. Easy to spin it off as testing my reaction since it came after I promise to have effort today. Not like that gambit has never been seen before.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
You read what I wrote with Isquen and think to yourself he defended Isquen day 1, let me attack this but if you go back and read how I defended him precisely you would understand the tact I discussed with Crescent was one of prudence not me claiming to actually have any genuine concrete read.

Issue being that you defended the idea of defending Isquen with the prudence line, but your defense of him directly brought up the personal read side too much for that to be entirely true. You covered for and appealed to him personally a bit too much for it to have been purely about disdain for day 1 newbie lynches (especially since it continued to a fair extent into today)

DoomTheGyarados posted...
For example, the Scare lynch was indeed town but you didnt offer any defense of him at the time.

Wasn't here to do it. Like I know damn well you know better than to think this is meaningful, because while it's true that I could go silent on purpose as scum (I've never skipped a whole deadline as scum but I've peaced out at -15 minutes when town went full stupid) it's also true that I can just not be around and you have no way of knowing which is which to base an argument on.

DoomTheGyarados posted...


For one, there is nothing wrong with having people you were or are somewhat suspicious of voting with you to try to lynch people. You keep acting as if this is some weird thing but getting reactions out of people is pretty common Id say.

It's not damning but it is a bit weird to be on board with voting alongside people you think are scum. You can have your opinion change based on how they respond to you sure but the way you went through it and explained it does not add up. Again, I'm not saying you totally derped the game with huge glaring errors, I know you don't make those much if ever. Only that there's too many smaller issues for me to not see through you.

DoomTheGyarados posted...


As for why I voted for you Marth moe or less asked, so I decided to. Sometimes I am just nice like that. Not everything has to be a huge conspiracy, sometimes I am very earnest.

Not everything has to be but everything could be.

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Crescent-Moon
03/26/22 6:13:38 PM
#23:


Ok I'm driving now asI have an errand to get done on the way home over eith shouldn't take too long also I want a response to my post in the other topic from Pantheta

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Panthera
03/26/22 6:17:05 PM
#24:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Like yeah, if he was so sure I was scum dude just calls me a liar so he might have some chance of doing good this game lol

Yeah this a big red flag here since this is what I did. I explicitly stated that my assumption is Chris realized (or at least strongly suspected) I wasn't honest about the vanilla claim (it wasn't super subtle really) and decided to just throw it out to see, knowing he can back off it without issue by saying it was just to try to test/trap me. I feel like Chris knows people are more inclined to read his posts than my walls and is misrepresenting me here to undermine what I said.

Oh, Crescent - I targeted you night 1 because you were my strongest town read, and I don't like to count on scum just deciding to keep you as a distraction when there's not a ton of upside to it. Confirmed town who hasn't confirmed yet feels like an ideal poison target to me so I went with you.

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UnderUrMattress
03/26/22 6:17:08 PM
#25:


After reading everything I'm going to have to stick with

##Vote: Panthera

I hope you have the heart to forgive me if I'm wrong.

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:17:53 PM
#26:


UnderUrMattress posted...
If Sbell ends up being scum I'm gonna say at least one of [chang, Chris, Panth] is bussing right now.

UnderUrMattress posted...
That being said, my vote is on Sbell in spirit just cause it seems like MZero might have something incriminating on him and I might actually vote him soon if he doesn't claim.

UnderUrMattress posted...
Sbell looks like he's in hot water rn.

Bat never impressed me yesterday at all, but I vibed with people saying to let him live due to his early exits in previous games so I could pressure there.

Chris.... I don't have great feelings about either. But probably not territory for today given he has some kind of powerup that seems to be helping the village.

I would like Isquen to do a bit more solving today rather than just OMGUSing Crescent and banking on a PR soft to get him through the day.

Still am not comfortable with Panthera.

Chang might be fun to lynch.

Everyone else I'm probably not touching today unless something drastically changes. Sultan was an initial scumread and he's still done some off-putting things, but I think he's Just Town.
these were three Marth posts in a row, T6 P3

I am questioning my earlier read oops

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:19:10 PM
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Panthera posted...
Yeah this a big red flag here since this is what I did. I explicitly stated that my assumption is Chris realized (or at least strongly suspected) I wasn't honest about the vanilla claim (it wasn't super subtle really) and decided to just throw it out to see, knowing he can back off it without issue by saying it was just to try to test/trap me. I feel like Chris knows people are more inclined to read his posts than my walls and is misrepresenting me here to undermine what I said.

Oh, Crescent - I targeted you night 1 because you were my strongest town read, and I don't like to count on scum just deciding to keep you as a distraction when there's not a ton of upside to it. Confirmed town who hasn't confirmed yet feels like an ideal poison target to me so I went with you.

I meant simply don't claim your protection role at all. I would expect town Panthera to offer some resistance if he genuinely thought I was so scummy to lynch a scanner lol

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:20:32 PM
#28:


Sheep007 posted...
these were three Marth posts in a row, T6 P3

I am questioning my earlier read oops

this would be quite the funny rule of 3

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UnderUrMattress
03/26/22 6:23:15 PM
#29:


Sheep I'm town lol and honestly I townread you for pushing my D1 because I also thought it sucked.

But my excuse is just reacquainting myself with this board and being nervous as hell that I'd do bad.

I'm actually very happy cause I caught Sbell d1 and hopefully I caught Panthera as well.

When MZero vigged Sbell my whole attitude towards the game and my conviction towards my reads skyrocketed.

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:24:16 PM
#30:


UnderUrMattress posted...
Most were to test the freezer

Anyways, despite me bullying Chris earlier , I could see Sultan slotting in with Panth and Corrik.

I'll probably make a full reads list here shortly.
Topic 7, P4. After spending a while in I believe the topic prior saying Sultan/Corrik/himself was a dreadful scum team call from Chris.

Marth. buddy. Your vibes, they're immaculate. Your play? Not so much. It's disrupting my energies. Not radical.

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TheSultanOfSlam
03/26/22 6:24:25 PM
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Marth feelings on chris now?

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UnderUrMattress
03/26/22 6:26:10 PM
#32:


TheSultanOfSlam posted...
Marth feelings on chris now?
If Panth is mafia then Chris is town, no questions asked

If Panth is town, Chris is probably still town for calling them out on the vanilla claim.

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:26:17 PM
#33:


UnderUrMattress posted...
Sheep I'm town lol and honestly I townread you for pushing my D1 because I also thought it sucked.

But my excuse is just reacquainting myself with this board and being nervous as hell that I'd do bad.

I'm actually very happy cause I caught Sbell d1 and hopefully I caught Panthera as well.

When MZero vigged Sbell my whole attitude towards the game and my conviction towards my reads skyrocketed.
aw thanks for townreading me x

For real though, I don't know enough about you to say your play is different from what I'd expect, but I'm not big on the votes and the SBell stuff along with my most recent post just feels a little all over the place. Not so sure about the conviction of your reads

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:27:55 PM
#34:


actually nah

##Vote: Marth

"Sheep I'm town lol" does not pass the vibe check

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UnderUrMattress
03/26/22 6:28:08 PM
#35:


Sheep007 posted...
aw thanks for townreading me x

For real though, I don't know enough about you to say your play is different from what I'd expect, but I'm not big on the votes and the SBell stuff along with my most recent post just feels a little all over the place. Not so sure about the conviction of your reads
I'm not someone you need to worry about but I respect the suspicion.

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UnderUrMattress
03/26/22 6:28:37 PM
#36:


You're breaking my heart bro!

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Panthera
03/26/22 6:29:01 PM
#37:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
I meant simply don't claim your protection role at all. I would expect town Panthera to offer some resistance if he genuinely thought I was so scummy to lynch a scanner lol

I mean if I'm wrong about you then yeah I goofed hard but I don't think I am and I think after making a point of addressing the Red poison discussion that wasn't substantial at all immediately after my vanilla claim it wasn't hard to see what I was. Besides, I knew my odds of success here were not great, you have enough people on your side and few truly hesitant about you, so I figured it's not going to hurt too much to be honest and hope that I at least eat a kill/block instead of a lynch.

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:29:07 PM
#38:


saying I don't need to worry increases my worry

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:29:18 PM
#39:


sheep, tomorrow

please sir

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PunishedBen
03/26/22 6:29:24 PM
#40:


Vibes are like 90% of what matters. We all have bad games except me

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UnderUrMattress
03/26/22 6:29:36 PM
#41:


What do the votes look like

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:30:19 PM
#42:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
sheep, tomorrow

please sir
I said I want an adventure and an adventure I shall have

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:30:41 PM
#43:


Fine, let me go back and re-read panthera's super genuine poison doctor reaction to red

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PunishedBen
03/26/22 6:34:52 PM
#44:


Panthera is too obvious at this juncture for me to need to go on any more adventures. I am satisficed with where the game is left off if this is it.

Corrik is probably scum after panth,

And after that it is time to scrutinize all the people we've cleared at some point. But once everyone has claimed that should be much easier. Crescent would probably be a smart lynch at that juncture if you still had no additional information. There is still a viable chance she's scum after everything. She's good enough as scum to do the things "she would never do as scum"

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:34:59 PM
#45:


So uh, am I crazy or did Panthera not mention the poison at all right away <_<

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changmas
03/26/22 6:35:05 PM
#46:


i will say scum team has to be very confident that there's not a real poison doctor for scum panthera to make that claim. it seems like a whole lot of wasted effort to type an entire novel's worth of text just to have everything instantly invalidated by a poison doctor counterclaim.

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Corrik7
03/26/22 6:35:49 PM
#47:


Well, I can say one thing. If Panthera is legit and Red is telling the truth about being poisoned, they might not have an extra kill. The vig shoots night 1 and they have an every night delayed poisoner. Or. And this is a stretch but does rely on 3rd party shenanigans. Scum has an every other night poisoner.

It's the only way panths role makes sense.

That said, panths claim is both problematic and needed. In one way you could argue if Red dies tonight that panth is scum. But then you could argue why as town would panth claim that because he will be roleblocked now and won't be able to save Red.

Idk if he truly had to claim there.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/26/22 6:36:11 PM
#48:


changmas posted...
i will say scum team has to be very confident that there's not a real poison doctor for scum panthera to make that claim. it seems like a whole lot of wasted effort to type an entire novel's worth of text just to have everything instantly invalidated by a poison doctor counterclaim.

4/17 and they know their power layout. Pretty easy for them to know if they can expect their poison to be assured or not

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Sheep007
03/26/22 6:36:39 PM
#49:


Okay I actually really, really like Marth's posts 161-193 of topic 7. Town cred shoots through the roof with those responses to Panth. I think reading those upon waking up today cannonballed him to the top of my town reads and they're almost enough to counteract all the other mess alone. Post 196 is kinda bad with the weird half-suspicion on Sultan, but the rest is stellar

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changmas
03/26/22 6:37:21 PM
#50:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
4/17 and they know their power layout. Pretty easy for them to know if they can expect their poison to be assured or not

i suppose they also have the added knowledge of the "9 actions happened n1" from IGCD and can count up and make a strong inference there

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