Poll of the Day > I love Detroit Become Human. But that fucking boat

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The fucking jump scares though wtf

I tried to enjoy it bur it took me only a short while to go 'Okay. Christ. I GET IT! The androids are black people and this game is about how horrible racism is. WHY CAN'T I ENJOY A COOL STORY ABOUT ROBOTS?!' and stopped playing as a result.

that's entirely your fault that you can't enjoy a cool game about robots due to some weird phycological issue you have where you don't understand that most games are allegorical for something

I don't remember the game much other than I loved it. Very special experience. First time I ever found out about Jesse Williams. Markus was a very likable character. I usually love all android protagonists. Their innocence and indifference is charming and it's nice seeing them transform into good beings that fight against evil.

I feel like Jesse Williams should've been a bigger star a long time ago. The dude has a great look, a sexy voice and just has it. There are so many good movies he could lead. I feel like in another time-line, they got the Jesse we missed.

The only issue I had with the story was when it was revealed that Alice is an android too. The dynamic between Kara and Alice and the story they were telling was that an android is just as capable of taking care of a human as another human. I know Luther tells Kara that nothing changes and she doesn't love Alice any less but still it just makes the story they were previously telling pointless.

Probably David Cage's best game, but it doesn't say much. The game is very pretentious, self-righteous, but does raise some valid points about automation and the future.

David Cage and by extension his games are far too pretentious for me to like any of his games on principal. Epspecially this one with an elementry-level attempt at tackiling rascism, the part where the Androids go to the back of the bus fucking slayed any attempt at serious storytelling for the rest of Markus's story.

Bryan Dechart is probably the most attractive actor I've ever seen though and his chracter and performence was fantastic, I wish the entire game was about Connor and Hank honestly, it might have been good but atleast his parts make the game bearable I guess.

Cruddy_horse posted...

Bryan Dechart is probably the most attractive actor I've ever seen though and his chracter and performence was fantastic, I wish the entire game was about Connor and Hank honestly, it might have been good but atleast his parts make the game bearable I guess.

The majority of the players agreed with everything you just said.

Who wouldn't want Mr. Krabbs as a detective?

Adam_Savage posted...

that's entirely your fault that you can't enjoy a cool game about robots due to some weird phycological issue you have where you don't understand that most games are allegorical for something

Yes. I can't stomp on a goomba without seeing it as an allegory for the value of minority groups in squashing invading forces and preserving our form of government.

While it is true that most stories will have overriding themes, that applies for, well, pretty much every story. Be it the power of true love or the rise against tyranny, or something else. That's just how stories work. The problem is that DBH is a game ENTIRELY about story and it's focus is entirely on one specific aspect of it and it's about as subtle as having your brain smashed out by a lemon wrapped around a large gold brick. If the only reason to play your game is for the story and I can figure out pretty much all the details about your story in the first ten or so minutes because your story is so ham-fisted then you don't have a good story. You MIGHT be able to say it's more about the characters and their journey, and I might NORMALLY agree, but it's clear to me the developers cared more about the 'racism is bad' narrative more than that sort of thing. I don't see the point in even trying to enjoy a story that can be summarized in a three word sentence and then having to read that same sentence over and over and over and over and over and over and over again for several hours.

Let's look at another game that plays up the 'Racism is Bad' angle; Tales of Symphonia. This angle is pretty blatant right from the get-go and it's, arguably, even LESS subtle about it. However the game also makes it clear from the get-go that the focus is on the characters and their interactions with each other and it even explored the topic from MULTIPLE angles. This was a JRPG from 2003 on the gamecube. Meanwhile this modern game picked up a mace of 'ANDROIDS ARE BLACK PEOPLE AND THIS IS ABOUT RACISM' and proceeded to start beating me with it and I see no reason at all to believe it will change from that for a second.

The problem isn't that it's about racism. There's a lot of good games that have that as the central part of their story. The problem is that it's a game that's effectively nothing but story that can have it's story figured out in the first ten or so minutes because it's bad at story-telling.