Current Events > Super Mario 64 HAS no bad worlds. None.

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Even the (relatively) weak worlds are fine. Dire Dire Docks, Tiny Huge Island, Snow Man's Land. The rest are basically good, great, or amazing. Look how brilliant TTC is. Or SSL. Also, Banjo-Kazooie has no bad worlds at all. DK64 has some dull worlds.

Hazy Maze Cave, Wet-Dry World, Tall, Tall Mountain, Rainbow Ride are my least favorites. Hazy Maze Cave is just lacking on aesthetics, and the rest mentioned are just kind of bland and annoying.

Sunhawk posted...

Also, Banjo-Kazooie has no bad worlds at all.

Pretty sure Clanker's Cavern is disliked.

Although I think B-K is a better game than Mario 64.

Rainbow Ride would like a word with you.

I can never tell if people praising Mario 64 so much is a meme or rose tinted glasses on steroids.

The game is a mess by basic modern standards. Awful camera, choppy levels, completely broken mechanics, compressed sound. There is no difficulty curve, every level is just random, frequently loading screens.

If you do ever die it feels like the game did something goofy like spin the camera around for no reason rather than you fucking up.

Compared to other 3D platformers it just has poor design. Hence why Speedrunners have broken the game so badly.

Easy question to prove it: If Super Mario 64 was released tomorrow would it be popular and sell well?

No it wouldn't.

If Sonic 3 or Deus Ex was released for the first time tomorrow, people would still love it.

Wet Dry World is literally the best stage in the entire game.

UnfairRepresent posted...

I can never tell if people praising Mario 64 so much is a meme or rose tinted glasses on steroids.

The game is a mess by basic modern standards. Awful camera, choppy levels, completely broken mechanics, compressed sound. There is no difficult curve, every level is just random, frequently loading screens.

Compared to other 3D platformers it just has poor design. Hence why Speedrunners have broken the game so badly.

Easy question to prove it: If Super Mario 64 was released tomorrow would it be popular and sell well?

No it wouldn't.

If Sonic 3 or Deus Ex was released for the first time tomorrow, people would still love it.

Just say "aged poorly," and move on.

See I'm not sure it is that simple.

Deus Ex "aged poorly" by graphics and GUI design but it's such a good game it still holds up.

Fuck HMC. It's the only one I never look forward to. Especially the 100 koin star.

Every world in DK64 is great though

Gloomy Gallon isn't much fun. Creepy Castle is pretty bad.

DK64 is a strange game. There's TONS of content, and the dynamic lighting was excellent for 1999, and the music is very good, but the game design is so weird. All the mini-games, the way you have to unlock a few characters before you can do much, the filler content, and the bland hub world. It's funny that the same company made this as Banjo-Kazooie.

Rare in general had this problem where the size and scope of their games kept increasing, but they could never really figure out how to manage the larger worlds.

it all came to a head with "Banjo-Threeie" and they were like "what the fuck do we do when the worlds are this huge" and it resulted in Nuts and Bolts lol

Rainbow Ride is a dumpster fire, and Whomp's Fortress, Cool Cool Mountain, and Tall Tall Mountain are pretty meh too. Shifting Sand Land and Lethal Lava Land are both tedious though easily cheesed through blue shells. The rest are IMO decent to amazing, but that's still 6/15 that aren't fun to play.

Not going to comment on DK64, been too long since I played it to remember all the stages.

Sunhawk posted...

Gloomy Gallon isn't much fun. Creepy Castle is pretty bad.

I wouldnt say that either of them are dull though. Especially Creepy Castle.

I get it: SM64 was godlike on release and holds up today but its just ok today.

The entire game is an ok game today.....

if there's a game that could use a remake, its definitely this one!

UnfairRepresent posted...

choppy levels

UnfairRepresent posted...

every level is just random, frequently loading screens.

What does that even mean?

UnfairRepresent posted...

Easy question to prove it: If Super Mario 64 was released tomorrow would it be popular and sell well?

Well that's hardly fair. The majority of games from back in the day would be seen as outdated if they came out today. Would Super Mario World receive critical acclaim and sell 10 million copies if it came out today? I don't think so.

XxAxem_BlackxX posted...

What does that even mean?

Well that's hardly fair. The majority of games from back in the day would be seen as outdated if they came out today. Would Super Mario World receive critical acclaim and sell 10 million copies if it came out today? I don't think so.

Dudes a shitposter tbh and is constantly posting stuff to either get a rise out of people or just being disingenuous in general.

Rainbow Ride is the only world I dislike

I don't think I've ever gotten a star from it in any playthrough

The world's may not in theory be bad but given the camera and stuff, at least one of them is awful

rexcrk posted...

Dudes a shitposter tbh and is constantly posting stuff to either get a rise out of people or just being disingenuous in general.

I've genuinely never heard a criticism like that before though. What makes a video game level choppy?

Fucking

WHAT

Like 1/3 of the worlds are terrible in Super Mario 64 and anyone who says otherwise is just blinded by nostalgia >_>

Hazy Maze Cave SUCKS (Literally no reason needs to be stated. It's tedious as fuck)
Dire Dire Docks SUCKS (Wow! A 2 room world where they had to cram the stars in the dumbest places and you have to collect nearly every coin to get all 100)
Wet Dry World SUCKS (An underwater world that is annoying and slow to navigate)
Tall Tall Mountain SUCKS (Hey, let's make 3 of the stars about climbing to the top the same fucking mountain)
Tick Tock Clock SUCKS (Come on, this is a given too)

Prove me wrong

DKBananaSlamma posted...

Hazy Maze Cave SUCKS (Literally no reason needs to be stated. It's tedious as fuck)

Sounds like you need to git gud

Dire Dire Docks SUCKS (Wow! A 2 room world where they had to cram the stars in the dumbest places and you have to collect nearly every coin to get all 100)

Valid

Wet Dry World SUCKS (An underwater world that is annoying and slow to navigate)

Literally peak atmosphere. Dark, wet, dreary, kinda offputting and weirdly uncomfortable. I wanna live there.

Tall Tall Mountain SUCKS (Hey, let's make 3 of the stars about climbing to the top the same fucking mountain)

Only bad thing about this is the fucking monkey

Tick Tock Clock SUCKS (Come on, this is a given too)

Sounds like you need to git gud