Poll of the Day > Trump expected to announce 3rd White House bid today

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-expected-announce-3rd-bid-white-house/story?id=92820500

Lmfao

i feel like the silver lining to trump being president is trump. he cant stay away, he is toxic, most of his picked candidates lost this week, etc.

New Hampshire, Iowa...please be sane.

I wouldn't be surprised if he kept running for as long as he remains a free man. I wouldn't expect his ego to willingly walk away from the power he once had.

RIP to the one week of republican media pretending to be against Trump

dud posted...

RIP to the one week of republican media pretending to be against Trump

/r/Conservatives is really rebelling against him after the midterms. It seems there's a lot of infighting between forever Trumpers and prior Trumpers

keyblader1985 posted...

I wouldn't be surprised if he kept running for as long as he remains a free man. I wouldn't expect his ego to willingly walk away from the power he once had.

Fortunately we can only be subject to one more term unless the Republicans manage to repeal the 22nd amendment, which they couldn't even manage during the Reagan years.

keyblader1985 posted...

I wouldn't be surprised if he kept running for as long as he remains a free man. I wouldn't expect his ego to willingly walk away from the power he once had.

Heck, even if he somehow ends up locked up, he'll probably still announce a plan to run and blame the system for not allowing him to do so instead of admitting that he did something wrong.

And in 2024 there will be millions of fewer boomer voters, and millions more zoomer voters. Gee, I wonder how this is going to turn out, granted he makes it that far if he doesn't get primaried by DeSanctimonious, or he's rotting in a federal prison cell somewhere.

rjsilverthorn posted...

Fortunately we can only be subject to one more term unless the Republicans manage to repeal the 22nd amendment, which they couldn't even manage during the Reagan years.

See Jan 6th. Working legally within the system is not their (or especially Trump's) tactic.

wpot posted...

See Jan 6th. Working legally within the system is not their (or especially Trump's) tactic.

It didn't keep him in office. He could announce he wants to run all he likes, there is a difference between that and convincing 50 states to illegally put him on the ballot.

rjsilverthorn posted...

It didn't keep him in office. He could announce he wants to run all he likes, there is a difference between that and convincing 50 states to illegally put him on the ballot.

I'm not talking about putting him on the ballot. I'm talking about the million other dirty ways he could attempt to get around the 22nd, especially if he ever has majorities in both houses.

Jen0125 posted...

/r/Conservatives is really rebelling against him after the midterms. It seems there's a lot of infighting between forever Trumpers and prior Trumpers

I dunno though it just feels like 2016 again to me. They can pretend they're taking a moral high ground (although this time around, I'm not sure they're even doing much of that) but the main objection has always been that they think he makes them lose. If he shows signs of momentum again I guarantee they'll fall back in line

dud posted...

I dunno though it just feels like 2016 again to me. They can pretend they're taking a moral high ground (although this time around, I'm not sure they're even doing much of that) but the main objection has always been that they think he makes them lose. If he shows signs of momentum again I guarantee they'll fall back in line

I agree with you.

wpot posted...

New Hampshire, Iowa...please be sane.

Apparently DeSantis is up double digits over Trump in those two states. (For whatever polling is worth now days)

Been waiting for it since 2020. Still hasn't happened yet.

Sean Hannity is already lubed and ready

3 more hours you think its gonna happen?

Oh he's doing it at 10? Kinda late.

But he already won twice, you can't be president three times.

shadowsword87 posted...

But he already won twice, you can't be president three times.

Well gee golly jeepers

shadowsword87 posted...

But he already won twice, you can't be president three times.

This guy gets it.

Apparently people are outside Trump Tower chanting Trump or death fuck these people.

Apparently Trump and Desantis hate each other now, and everyone thought Desantis would run as his VP.

If Desantis runs, I hope Trump gets so butthurt and jealous that he would rather run third party and ruin him for a second Biden term than endorse him. It probably won't happen, but it would be amazing.

SeahorseCpt89 posted...

If Desantis runs, I hope Trump gets so butthurt and jealous that he would rather run third party and ruin him for a second Biden term than endorse him. It probably won't happen, but it would be amazing.

If Trump somehow doesn't get the Republican nom I can certainly see him doing that and he would definitely take a chunk of his diehards with him.

SeahorseCpt89 posted...

Apparently Trump and Desantis hate each other now, and everyone thought Desantis would run as his VP.

Desantis would still be Trump's running mate if asked

It's a bit early, but everyone knew he was going to run. Too bad every news station is going to be Trump 24/7 news now. They are obsessed with the guy. Probably will hear more about him than our actual president.

rjsilverthorn posted...

If Trump somehow doesn't get the Republican nom I can certainly see him doing that and he would definitely take a chunk of his diehards with him.

Which would honestly be the best case scenario.

A lot of people are saying they want Trump to run to tear apart the Republican party so Biden can win again. Idk, my gut is telling me the man can't be predicted.

Ideally, he gets locked up for what he did and the keys get thrown away.

adjl posted...

Which would honestly be the best case scenario.

Yes, although I think it unlikely. I don't see him entering into a scenario he'd be so certain to lose, nor do I see him putting in enough of his own money and effort to keep it going without the RNC behind him. But I'm sure he would want to, so who knows.

Metalsonic66 posted...

Desantis would still be Trump's running mate if asked

I don't know that he would. Trump has zero loyalty and doesn't share power so DeSantis would be giving up his Florida fiefdom to be the guy that stands behind Trump and gets thrown under the bus at the drop of a hat.

Hes actually going to announce that his real name is Ronald Dump.

he's announced it now

rjsilverthorn posted...

I don't know that he would. Trump has zero loyalty and doesn't share power so DeSantis would be giving up his Florida fiefdom to be the guy that stands behind Trump and gets thrown under the bus at the drop of a hat.

Agreed. Can you think of anyone notable that served under Trump who left looking good? DeSantis is smart enough to know that, I believe.

I am looking forward to this bloodbath of Republicans tearing each other apart.

It just sucks we'll have another 4 years of Biden, but at least it ain't Oompa Loompa or Psycho Florida.

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rjsilverthorn posted...

I don't know that he would. Trump has zero loyalty and doesn't share power so DeSantis would be giving up his Florida fiefdom to be the guy that stands behind Trump and gets thrown under the bus at the drop of a hat.

Yeah I think he'd act like he's opposed to it but still do it anyway because party loyalty

Like how Ted Cruz still rallies behind Trump despite the back-and-forth when they were running against each other

I feel like Trump recently started wincing after nearly every sentence like he's gotta take a huge dump.

dud posted...

I dunno though it just feels like 2016 again to me. They can pretend they're taking a moral high ground (although this time around, I'm not sure they're even doing much of that) but the main objection has always been that they think he makes them lose. If he shows signs of momentum again I guarantee they'll fall back in line

I think you could be totally right, but I do think DeSantis is the most likely Republican to actually pose a threat to him. You're right that he isn't a moral highground in the even minute way that his previous competitors were. He's further right than Cruz or Rubio and more consistent than Trump who can occasionally play the other side, however duplicitously. idk basically I'm not surprised either way

ReturnOfFa posted...

I feel like Trump recently started wincing after nearly every sentence like he's gotta take a huge dump.

He's trying to read the teleprompter

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https://twitter.com/brenonade/status/1592717256265707520?s=20&t=2QyaJMeBxn2IqcdmGs20KA

captpackrat posted...

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lol, exactly!

Jen0125 posted...

https://twitter.com/brenonade/status/1592717256265707520?s=20&t=2QyaJMeBxn2IqcdmGs20KA

Such excitement, much awe
You'd think someone stopped from leaving could just start yelling and making a scene.
"Sir, you're making a scene, we're gonna have to ask you to leave."
"That's what I wanted to do to begin with!"

But I guess Trumpsters aren't smart enough to think of that.

wpot posted...

I don't see him entering into a scenario he'd be so certain to lose

On one hand, I get where you're coming from. On the other, the entire recount campaign he ran after the 2020 election was very obviously doomed to failure from the start, and yet he still insisted on sending lawyers after everyone he could find until he started facing actual charges for the fallout of that campaign (Jan 6th). He genuinely believes that the only way anyone could beat him in a popularity contest is by cheating, and I actually don't think he has the self-awareness to recognize that he wouldn't be able to win if he ran as an independent. I also wouldn't put it past him to run just for the sake of trying to get more votes than DeSantis out of spite, with little regard for winning overall (though presumably he'll still claim that the only way the Democrats win the election is by cheating).

adjl posted...

On the other, the entire recount campaign he ran after the 2020 election was very obviously doomed to failure from the start, and yet he still insisted on sending lawyers after everyone he could find until he started facing actual charges for the fallout of that campaign (Jan 6th).

My favorite was, in the middle of the pandemic, the slogan was "keep america great".
It was pretty choice.

Get America back in the saddle again for the third time.

adjl posted...

On the other, the entire recount campaign he ran after the 2020 election was very obviously doomed to failure from the start

Who really knows, but my guess is that he didn't feel it was doomed from the start: I think he has an impressive (?) capacity for self-delusion and a huge degree of 'fake it until you make it' built into the core of his being. Which is unfortunate because sometimes when he's obviously lying he might not actually be lying (i.e. saying something he knows to be untrue) and he is instead just amazingly deluded. But he blurs that line all over the map by truly lying also. And he has no observable moral center. He is an...unfortunate human being.

WAS the recount effort obviously doomed to failure, though? Trump's life experience has appeared to teach him that anything is possible if you are amoral and pay lawyers enough...and I'm not sure that lesson is incorrect. If any of his attempts to find a pocket of corrupt election officials or get a crazy legal ruling had found the right audience we may have had a different experience. And, worryingly, there are more crazy officials out there now than there were in 2020 (and many Trump appointees on the Supreme Court)...

But the point had to do with whether he'd run as an independent. I think the costs and energy that would require (along with the risk of becoming truly irrelevant upon losing badly) would overcome his capacity for self-delusion in that case. But who knows? Maybe he'll want to beat DeSantis out of spite as you said. I'm not placing any bets on the guy.

wpot posted...

WAS the recount effort obviously doomed to failure, though? Trump's life experience has appeared to teach him that anything is possible if you are amoral and pay lawyers enough...and I'm not sure that lesson is incorrect.

The scale of what he wanted to accomplish was pretty much impossible. He might have swayed one or two electorates if he got the right corrupt people on the first tries (bearing in mind that as he asks the wrong person anywhere to find a few thousand votes for him, the entire country is going to be on high alert because he's admitted to conspiring to rig the election), but he lost by a pretty substantial margin.

He likely didn't believe it was impossible, but that's my point: He's deluded enough to think that he can't lose. To that end, I expect he'd be similarly deluded enough to think he could win as an independent. The somewhat alarming thing is that he probably stands a better chance of winning as an independent than any other would-be independent candidate would, but that's still not a good chance of winning.

adjl posted...

The scale of what he wanted to accomplish was pretty much impossible. He might have swayed one or two electorates if he got the right corrupt people on the first tries

The length of time he kept trying made the fraud obvious (not to mention his people couldn't stick to one story about HOW the election was stolen)...right. And you're correct that it was highly unlikely he'd get the 2-3 wins he needed for the big flip. But soon after the election when it wasn't clear exactly how many votes he needed to flip was it unreasonable for him to think he might be able to win by fraudulently flipping a couple locations? I don't think so. The delusion came later as the attempt continued with variable stories and increasingly clear gaps.

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