Poll of the Day > Congress holds UFO hearing

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Judgmenl
07/26/23 10:17:00 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpzJnrwob1A

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rjsilverthorn
07/26/23 10:25:24 AM
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Our tax dollars at work.
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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 10:30:13 AM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Our tax dollars at work.
these claims seem pretty legit. the way this guy has used the whistleblower protection act gives them a lot of credibility

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shadowsword87
07/26/23 10:52:59 AM
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Oh man I wonder how many people must be apart of a government cover up to hide aliens.
Must be tens of thousands, weird how they all managed to keep it secret.

I also am excited about all of this new alien technology that the government is hiding in secret. It's odd how I haven't seen any of it when I interviewed in a place building airplane parts. Must not have been where the CPU was.
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papercup
07/26/23 11:04:41 AM
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All the issues our country is facing that affect real people and THIS is what they spend their time on. What a fucking joke.

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Metalsonic66
07/26/23 11:05:54 AM
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The twooth is out dere

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rjsilverthorn
07/26/23 11:15:49 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Must be tens of thousands, weird how they all managed to keep it secret.
This is my argument for almost every major conspiracy theory.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 11:25:47 AM
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I don't see why people think it's crazy that 10s of thousands of gov members could keep something under wraps? They have security clearances for a reason. There's so much they do that none of us know about but hundreds or thousands of gov members might.
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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 12:28:04 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
Oh man I wonder how many people must be apart of a government cover up to hide aliens.
Must be tens of thousands, weird how they all managed to keep it secret.

I also am excited about all of this new alien technology that the government is hiding in secret. It's odd how I haven't seen any of it when I interviewed in a place building airplane parts. Must not have been where the CPU was.

have you ever heard of compartmentalization


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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 12:30:07 PM
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i listened to the whole thing. very interesting stuff. i really dont get why someone would put their life and reputation on the line to testify to congress about this if they were lying.

papercup posted...
All the issues our country is facing that affect real people and THIS is what they spend their time on. What a fucking joke.

the implications of the technology that has been supposedly recovered actually does have an impact on real people.


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potdnewb
07/26/23 12:32:54 PM
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papercup posted...
All the issues our country is facing that affect real people and THIS is what they spend their time on. What a fucking joke.
there are serious implications if the government has been lying about ufos for this long what else are they still lying about
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rjsilverthorn
07/26/23 12:37:51 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I don't see why people think it's crazy that 10s of thousands of gov members could keep something under wraps? They have security clearances for a reason. There's so much they do that none of us know about but hundreds or thousands of gov members might.
Donald Trump had security clearances. You can be an absolute idiot and greedy and still get security clearances.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 1:04:41 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
Donald Trump had security clearances. You can be an absolute idiot and greedy and still get security clearances.

Does he care about aliens? Did he care to ask? Having a clearance doesn't mean you access all the info. Trump required one page dumbed down security briefings. He wasn't scouring the archives for info.
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shadowsword87
07/26/23 2:48:35 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I don't see why people think it's crazy that 10s of thousands of gov members could keep something under wraps? They have security clearances for a reason. There's so much they do that none of us know about but hundreds or thousands of gov members might.

So, the NSA hires over 30k people. One of the large pillars of the Government at this point. There's a massive, massive building that thousands of people park at. There's a wikipedia page for it and talk about what they do.

10's of thousands of people, for a government organization, is huge.

Then consider warehouses that have to be involved, and maintaining that. Civilian contractors and experts that obviously need to be brought in.

People also mix up the military and the government in all of these as well. The FBI doesn't really give a shit about planes, there's a whole military police that would handle it.

This has also been going on for over 50 years? Tens of thousands of people in dozens of no-fly zones with massive hangers? And not one person decided to sell out, and actually sell out not just vague references?

That's not even touching the fact that nobody seems to talk about what has been reversed engineered. I have not seen anyone point to a single technology that has been reversed engineered, or eluded to. There's so many references to it, but companies build these parts.
I interviewed at a place that designed, built, tested, and shipped out the computers that the brand new military aircraft were being shipped out. There was no alien technology, just a fuckton of money and tests. So either nobody bothered to tell the people making things, or, nothing was reversed.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 2:52:59 PM
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There are so many things that thousands of government members are privvy to that you'll never know or won't find out about until 50 years after an event. You're naive if you think the government or their workers can't keep a secret. It's the whole reason whistleblowers need protection.

Why even have security clearances if nothing is secure? The majority of people abide by their clearances.
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shadowsword87
07/26/23 2:54:14 PM
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And people don't realize what they're talking about when it comes to the tech side.
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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 3:00:29 PM
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so they're still showing the same videos that definitely aren't UFOs

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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 3:01:12 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
these claims seem pretty legit. the way this guy has used the whistleblower protection act gives them a lot of credibility
why would that give him credibility

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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 3:03:11 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
the implications of the technology that has been supposedly recovered actually does have an impact on real people.
what proof of recovered technology is there

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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 3:06:19 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
i listened to the whole thing. very interesting stuff. i really dont get why someone would put their life and reputation on the line to testify to congress about this if they were lying.
Do you have an example of someone's career being ruined by testifying about UFOs? I don't see the risk.

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shadowsword87
07/26/23 3:08:24 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
what proof of recovered technology is there

There's the military! And their new plane! Its motors go from vertical to horizontal for VTOL capabilities.
Aliens.
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potdnewb
07/26/23 3:10:26 PM
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confirmed that returnoffa is an alien and needs the lies to continue
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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 3:11:35 PM
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potdnewb posted...
confirmed that returnoffa is an alien and needs the lies to continue
o_O

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potdnewb
07/26/23 3:12:40 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
o_O
alien eyeballs
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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 3:45:30 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Do you have an example of someone's career being ruined by testifying about UFOs? I don't see the risk.
lying under oath?

ReturnOfFa posted...
what proof of recovered technology is there

none. thats why i said supposed

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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 3:52:40 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
lying under oath?

none. thats why i said supposed
Nobody that's come forward with this type of 'intelligence' has been prosecuted for lying under oath, as far as I recall.

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shadowsword87
07/26/23 3:55:48 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Nobody that's come forward with this type of 'intelligence' has been prosecuted for lying under oath, as far as I recall.

It's not illegal to talk about what someone else said, and then lie about it. That is not lying under oath.

That's why we need proof to make decisions and hold our belief about the world.
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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 4:10:06 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Nobody that's come forward with this type of 'intelligence' has been prosecuted for lying under oath, as far as I recall.
has anyone ever come forward with this type of information under oath? legit asking

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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 4:52:13 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
has anyone ever come forward with this type of information under oath? legit asking
Yeah bro, and they always wait until they're retired, just like David here.

There was Paul Hellyer here in Canada. He didn't lose anything with his 'reports', he just gained interview time and plenty of attention.

Same with Haim Eshed in Israel.

Former Navy fighter pilot Ryan Graves did not suffer any consequences for claiming he saw UFOs. And why should he? That's what he thought he saw.

The people that suffer negative consequences are the people that are proven liars, like Bob Lazar. He's made claims of employment and education that aren't true, so he's an obvious liar. Although he's arguably benefited more from his stories than he has endured negative consequences.

David Grusch could earnestly believe the things he claims, or he could be proven a liar if there are inconsistencies. We'll see! A lot of the people that claim these things are super innocent and they did see phenomena that they can't explain, but has been explained by others in hindsight.

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Judgmenl
07/26/23 4:57:11 PM
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potdnewb posted...
alien eyeballs


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joemodda
07/26/23 5:29:58 PM
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Probably gonna be a nothing burger. If they want to convince me they need to drag these alien relics out to the front of the Capitol building and demonstrate alien technologies in action to a crowd of people.

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Yellow
07/26/23 5:30:09 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
these claims seem pretty legit. the way this guy has used the whistleblower protection act gives them a lot of credibility
Is that why they all look like they were filmed with a potato?? Maybe the reason why that is is because a higher resolution would clearly show that anything is not an alien.

Congress schizophrenic black smudge on the camera hearing

shadowsword87 posted...
Oh man I wonder how many people must be apart of a government cover up to hide aliens.
Must be tens of thousands, weird how they all managed to keep it secret.

I also am excited about all of this new alien technology that the government is hiding in secret. It's odd how I haven't seen any of it when I interviewed in a place building airplane parts. Must not have been where the CPU was.
Do we unironically believe this? Why do we think the US government is even capable of hiding aliens? Why do they only land in the US?

Shit's getting old
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Jen0125
07/26/23 5:41:06 PM
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.. Why so you think UAPs are only in the US? lmao
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Yellow
07/26/23 5:50:45 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
.. Why so you think UAPs are only in the US? lmao
There are unidentified flying things everywhere. People promote the idea that they're aliens.

It's always a drone or a duck or a camera glare every time someone takes a closer look but you have people on the news "dropping the bomb" that the US is hiding aliens. "Aliens" is some cooperative global conspiracy shit.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 5:52:39 PM
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"always" except here where these ranking military officials with security clearance are stating they aren't those things under oath.
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Yellow
07/26/23 5:53:38 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
"always" except here where these ranking military officials with security clearance are stating they aren't those things under oath.
That they aren't what? Aliens? Or camera smudges?
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Jen0125
07/26/23 5:58:01 PM
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Yellow posted...
That they aren't what? Aliens? Or camera smudges?

You had a list of things the UAPs "always are."
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Yellow
07/26/23 6:06:28 PM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/

I see an image of the infamous duck, the one that NASA came out and said it was a duck most likely and did the basic math to show it based off the readings directly in the video feed, and another that looks like a balloon.

Sorry, I'm not taking this seriously. Fighter pilot doesn't mean educated. A lot of high level military people retire to sell crackpot books on UFOs after dedicating their careers to wasting taxpayer money looking for them.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 6:09:11 PM
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Just because that's the footage shown doesn't mean that's all they were talking about. If you want to believe that Earth has the only intelligent life in an infinite universe you're more than welcome to be that arrogant lol.
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Yellow
07/26/23 6:18:14 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Just because that's the footage shown doesn't mean that's all they were talking about. If you want to believe that Earth has the only intelligent life in an infinite universe you're more than welcome to be that arrogant lol.
Oh, I have no doubt that we're not the only life in the universe. The theories surrounding how life can form on basically any planet where light hits water are extremely solid.

This is a global conspiracy that aliens exist, they show up regularly on camera, and they're being covered up by every government everywhere for... reasons. Very big difference. And the evidence shown is generally always proven to be a bird or a balloon, and laughed off by actual scientists, who are frustrated they even have to entertain this garbage. Maybe don't call me arrogant on this one.

No radio waves, nothing uncovered by scientists anywhere, no exoplanets, nothing. But some unidentified crap in the air on a planet where there are a million explanations besides aliens? Must be aliens.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 6:23:45 PM
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I still question whether we've actually been "visited" but to dismiss this hearing outright because what's been made available to the public doesn't reach your sniff test is a little silly. These aren't tinfoil hat wearing Alex Jones guests. This guy has inside information and he's willing to divulge his sources privately to any rep asking due to clearance issues.
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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 7:05:09 PM
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most of the evidence (if it even actually exists) is classified so

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ReturnOfFa
07/26/23 7:17:07 PM
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I'm open to seeing this all play out, and I'm hopeful for all the believers. I believe in alien life - just that it's too far away and hasn't developed interstellar travel.

I'm just very skeptical, as I've lived with people that follow this kind of thing nonstop, and it rarely amounts to much. The things that make me suspect on this one are:
  • claims of American citizens being killed as part of the government's efforts to cover up the information. Don't think this could be covered up for this long.
  • Grusch claims that the U.S. federal government maintains a highly secretive UFO retrieval program and possesses multiple spacecraft of non-human origin as well as corpses of deceased pilots. I believe someone else would have leaked this earlier were this the case.
  • He said that UFOs could be coming from extra dimensions; that he had spoken with intelligence officials whom the U.S. military had briefed on "football-field" sized crafts; that the U.S. government transferred some crashed UFOs to a defense contractor; and that there was "malevolent activity" by UFOs. Sorry, I consider extra dimensions to be sensationalist. I also do not believe anything regarding "football-field" sized crafts. I also do not believe that something would not leak were random defense contractors receiving UFO parts. Also...malevolent activity? Where, who, huh?


Seen too many of these. It's literally a guy saying that a guy told him some stuff.

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Jen0125
07/26/23 7:20:10 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
most of the evidence (if it even actually exists) is classified so

Yes, that's why he's willing to relay it privately. He said as much in the hearing. He is fully willing to give his info to those with adequate clearance to do their own research.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 7:20:50 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
. I believe in alien life - just that it's too far away and hasn't developed interstellar travel.

This is how I feel. But I want to know what this guy has seen and heard in his official capacity that makes him so confident it is alien?
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Jen0125
07/26/23 7:35:29 PM
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The general takeaway I'm seeing from people on tiktok (so just regular people) is that their takeaway from the hearing is aliens exist and we have some here but who cares because we can't afford groceries and rent. Like we don't want another thing on the pile bascially lol.
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Jen0125
07/26/23 7:45:28 PM
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT88kXR31/
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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 8:05:02 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/2/AAXuu6AAEsn4.jpg

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kind9
07/26/23 8:06:50 PM
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I don't know what any of this is about, but I do hope it's not about Republicans looking for an alien cover up.

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DirtBasedSoap
07/26/23 8:13:30 PM
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kind9 posted...
I don't know what any of this is about, but I do hope it's not about Republicans looking for an alien cover up.
what?

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