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CyricZ 10/02/23 12:57:23 PM #1: |
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/nebraska-to-force-5-months-of-non
A new set of regulations released on Monday morning by the Nebraska Department of Health and Human Services spells out several new restrictions on transgender youth in the state. The restrictions, allowed under a new law passed by the Nebraska legislature this year, would curtail gender-affirming care for those under the age of 19, the age of majority in the state. While several restrictions are poised to create hurdles for those seeking care, one in particular stands out as especially troubling: a mandate that all trans youth seeking treatment undergo five months of therapy that is not in a gender-affirming context, a nod to a novel form of conversion therapy championed by those opposed to gender-affirming care. More in the article. So "you can be trans, as long as we get a chance to knock it out of you first". --- CyricZ He/him http://twitch.tv/cyricz42 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 10/02/23 12:58:33 PM #2: |
Small, unobtrusive government at work in Nebraska, I see. /s
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DarthAragorn 10/02/23 12:59:27 PM #3: |
so basically just conversion therapy
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ai123 10/02/23 12:59:40 PM #4: |
The sheer amount of energy and legislative effort these bastards put in to hurting trans kids . . .
I guess Nebraska must have no real problems? --- You'll see motivational pictures about working hundred hour weeks/Well, it only applies to those who are operating at a really basic level ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hivebent4life 10/02/23 3:08:32 PM #5: |
ai123 posted...
The sheer amount of energy and legislative effort these bastards put in to hurting trans kids . . .The places pushing this stuff do have real problems, they just have no solutions to them, so distract the populace with cutlure war garbage. --- ~Hivebent4Life 3DS FC: 5069-3910-2647 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthAragorn 10/02/23 3:08:54 PM #6: |
hivebent4life posted...
The places pushing this stuff do have real problems, they just have no solutions to them, so distract the populace with cutlure war garbage.Well they have solutions they just don't care --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9-13900k | 64GB DDR5-6000 | RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloneIBreak 10/02/23 3:19:56 PM #7: |
Five months of therapy? Jesus.
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King_Rial 10/02/23 3:21:48 PM #8: |
hivebent4life posted...
The places pushing this stuff do have real problems, they just have no solutions to them, so distract the populace with cutlure war garbage.There are solutions. None that they want to implement, because they like it that way, but they have solutions. --- I use Google... A lot.... >______> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 10/02/23 3:28:36 PM #9: |
CyricZ posted...
So "you can be trans, as long as we get a chance to knock it out of you first".More like "you can be trans if you live to 19 and survive five months of state mandated denial of your identity." --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 10/02/23 3:31:04 PM #10: |
This is just evil.
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BurmesePenguin 10/02/23 3:36:45 PM #11: |
Will the government subsidize this mandated non-scientific, dangerous religious nonsense therapy or do you have to pay out of your own pocket?
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emblem-man 10/02/23 3:39:28 PM #13: |
Crazy shit.
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Crimsoness 10/02/23 3:40:32 PM #14: |
emblem-man posted...
Crazy shit.Probably something that'll involve religious figures --- She/her Dynamite with a laser beam ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 10/02/23 3:40:58 PM #15: |
emblem-man posted...
Crazy shit.It would have to be specifically anti-trans conversion therapy, because any real therapy, even if it wasn't targeted at the "trans thing" would naturally talk about mostly that to delve into other totes unrelated issues. --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 10/02/23 3:41:44 PM #16: |
emblem-man posted...
Crazy shit.Forcing them to go by their AGAB, actively deadnaming and misgendering them, continued denial of their identity. In a word: abuse. --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 10/02/23 3:42:42 PM #17: |
emblem-man posted...
Crazy shit.You probably have to spend a couple of months speaking to a preacher. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainsawFerret 10/02/23 3:44:40 PM #18: |
Conversion therapy under a new coat of paint. GOP once again demonstrating that it can no longer govern.
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CARRRNE_ASADA 10/02/23 3:46:58 PM #19: |
Conservatives barely got over gays (and lots are pedaling back). It requires an educated and empathetic population for full trans acceptance. Sadly i dont see it happening in the US.
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AloneIBreak 10/02/23 3:47:57 PM #20: |
ChainsawFerret posted...
Conversion therapy under a new coat of paint. GOP once again demonstrating that it can no longer govern.Right. And we already know conversion therapy doesn't work (not that it would be justified even if it did), so they're deliberately wasting time and money to work this "fighting 'gender ideology'" gimmick. --- "I do not imply... that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies" - Karl Popper ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 10/02/23 3:48:41 PM #21: |
This is like telling gay people they can get married, as long as they undergo conversion therapy first.
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SayHeyyShohei 10/02/23 3:49:46 PM #22: |
Nebraska is quickly becoming diet Florida
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Lillymon 10/02/23 3:57:29 PM #23: |
emblem-man posted...
Crazy shit.It's referred to as 'exploratory therapy'. Which, in this context means spending five months with a quack being like "Okay, let's say you're not transgender. Let's say you have autism, or ADHD, or depression, or something else instead" and it's up to you to prove that you don't. Then if you manage that they'll just resort to the good old standbys. Autogynephilia for AMAB patients or internalized misogyny for AFAB patients. Both of which have diagnostic criteria that include the patient saying they do not have the condition as one of the criteria! I really hope some of the people involved in this go to prison for it someday but I know they won't. --- "Bothering people when they're shopping or going to work or whatever because you find them attractive makes you scum of the earth." MegatokyoEd ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The23rdMagus 10/02/23 4:03:24 PM #24: |
Lillymon posted...
It's referred to as 'exploratory therapy'. Which, in this context means spending five months with a quack being like "Okay, let's say you're not transgender. Let's say you have autism, or ADHD, or depression, or something else instead" and it's up to you to prove that you don't. Then if you manage that they'll just resort to the good old standbys. Autogynephilia for AMAB patients or internalized misogyny for AFAB patients. Both of which have diagnostic criteria that include the patient saying they do not have the condition as one of the criteria!Ugh. "Kafkaesque" comes to mind. --- ~Drewnami~ A beacon of Light from a burning screen. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KitKats 10/02/23 4:05:46 PM #25: |
This is really shameful, unnecessarily harmful gatekeeping, and goes against established professional guidelines for providing gender affirming care. Being trans is not a mental illness or caused by trauma.
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DrizztLink 10/02/23 4:06:35 PM #26: |
Nebraska coming out sprinting to be the Florida of the Midwest again.
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hockeybub89 10/05/23 2:26:43 AM #28: |
"We'll let trans people transition AFTER we get to attempt genocide on them first"
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BlockAddition 10/05/23 2:34:28 AM #29: |
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St0rmFury 10/05/23 2:35:09 AM #30: |
*5 months later*
"Subject shows no signs of changing their views. We recommend a further 5 months of therapy." --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 10/05/23 2:45:08 AM #31: |
BlockAddition posted...
[stock outrage post about social justice issues]Shut the fuck up --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/05/23 2:46:29 AM #32: |
KitKats posted...
This is really shameful, unnecessarily harmful gatekeeping, and goes against established professional guidelines Sounds like textbook Republican policy. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/05/23 2:47:19 AM #33: |
BlockAddition posted...
[stock outrage post about social justice issues] Im sorry, could you elaborate? --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/05/23 2:49:04 AM #34: |
is it ok to call republicans what they are yet
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Dark_Arbron 10/05/23 2:50:01 AM #35: |
AceMos posted...
is it ok to call republicans what they are yet Has been for a while. Go for it. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 10/05/23 2:51:29 AM #36: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
Has been for a while. Go for it.not with out a lead mod telling me its ok --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 10/05/23 2:53:11 AM #37: |
Mods did say a couple of months ago that the rules have been changed on this matter. But fuck me if I can remember more specifically.
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Mibahlzitch 10/05/23 2:53:36 AM #38: |
They've been to public school for years, I'm pretty sure they've been in a non-affirming situation before. What a dumb law.
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Dark_Arbron 10/05/23 2:53:43 AM #39: |
Modern Republicans are neo-Nazis.
They have demonstrably employed the same attempts at suppression and genocide of the LGBT demographic as the Nazis did. Neo-Nazis are routinely spotted at Republican rallies. Emperor Trump himself refused to deny neo-Nazi violence and even called them very fine people. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mibahlzitch 10/05/23 2:54:32 AM #40: |
Hey now, it's not that Republicans are Nazis. It's just that a lot of Nazis seem to think they are. You have to wonder what gave them that impression.
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AceMos 10/05/23 2:55:51 AM #42: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]
you already know --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KitKats 10/05/23 3:22:10 AM #43: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]
Therapy in a non gender affirming context will invariably be harmful regardless of the specifics, and many licensed psychologists hold harmful and transphobic beliefs. When a person is seeking the help of a counselor before transition, its crucial they find someone that actually knows what theyre doing and provides therapy in a gender affirming context. This could range from someone treating it like a mental illness or wrongly searching for some trauma, to outright conversion therapy which is a form of torture and causes trauma to form. --- her/she ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 10/05/23 3:28:08 AM #44: |
KitKats posted...
Therapy in a non gender affirming context will invariably be harmful regardless of the specifics, and many licensed psychologists hold harmful and transphobic beliefs. This is a problem with a lot of experts sadly. The mark of a true professional is the ability to put their biases aside and do their job objectively. One of many reasons I could never be either a cop or a prosecutor. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForsakenHermit 10/05/23 5:08:55 AM #45: |
Nebraska is the only state in the union to apologize to you for entering it, true story.
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R_Jackal 10/08/23 7:23:57 AM #47: |
SayHeyyShohei posted... Nebraska is quickly becoming diet FloridaFlorida is just the rural south in a microcosm. Having bounced around states there, people with these kinds of beliefs are basically what makes up the entire power structure. Well there are those that don't think like that but it's so hard for them to get any traction that they basically don't try. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeCh0nk 10/08/23 7:37:26 AM #48: |
There should be a "non-chud therapy" mandated before being allowed to vote.
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Dark_Arbron 10/08/23 7:50:22 AM #49: |
LeCh0nk posted...
There should be a "non-chud therapy" mandated before being allowed to vote. On one hand... such a thing would be so easily weaponized that a functional democracy could not possibly allow it. On the other... you need a license to drive a vehicle, but not to vote against someone's right to exist. Think about that. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 10/08/23 8:10:12 AM #50: |
Dark_Arbron posted...
Emperor Trump himself refused to deny neo-Nazi violence and even called them very fine people. DeSantis still hasn't, either. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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