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UnfairRepresent 11/11/23 11:06:53 AM #1: |
But the entire religion and heaps of the actions of the most powerful nations ultimately are based on it. He died for our sins and it supposedly "brought forgiveness and redemption to the world" https://i.imgur.com/JbQLOnX.jpg So if you went back in time and found yourself in a position where you could easily prevent his death, would you do it? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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archizzy 11/11/23 11:12:17 AM #2: |
Im not religious but wanted to comment anyway. No, because if he actually existed in the context you are portraying him then he was sent by God and meant to die for us.
I dont believe this of course but if it turned out to be true Id be shocked, let it happen, and become a believer. Now if there was a historical Jesus figure that was just a regular guy but none of the religious stuff was tied to him and I could easily prevent a wrongful death? Yes. --- PSN ID: sled_dogs76 60" Pioneer Kuro Elite PRO151FD, Yamaha RX-V3900 A/V Receiver, Oppo DV983-H player. Coming soon: 2 Seaton Submersives from Mark Seaton ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hejiru 11/11/23 11:12:46 AM #3: |
I think that depends on if you believe Jesus was really who he said he was.
If you dont, then sure youd try to save an innocent man. (I dont think youd have much success though unless you brought modern technology with you). If you do believe, then wouldnt stopping Jesuss sacrifice be condemning everyone to hell? And besides, if Jesus really was Gods son, then I dont think hed allow you to intervene. --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/11/23 11:25:27 AM #4: |
Hejiru posted...
I think that depends on if you believe Jesus was really who he said he was. You brought a get of out jail free card. The Romans accept it because of passover. I dunno man, just roll with the hypothetical. You have some means of successfully preventing the cruxifixion of Jesus. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 11/11/23 11:30:04 AM #5: |
If I went back in time I'd seriously consider killing Paul, because I think he's one of the people who if they hadn't existed the world would be very very different and I am suuuuper curious what that would look like.
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R1masher 11/11/23 11:32:02 AM #6: |
Hmmm, whats the exchange rate on thirty pieces of silver?
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Zikten 11/11/23 11:34:53 AM #7: |
Any Christian who saved Jesus would be destroying the religion. You'd come back to 2023 and find out nobody alive today even knows who Jesus is, and Christianity doesn't exist. It would be some tiny cult of a handful of people who thought some guy was a god but then everyone dropped it when the leader died of old age ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 11/11/23 11:35:05 AM #8: |
He didn't deserve to die, but it's a sacrifice that needed to happen.
So, as a Christian... no, I wouldn't. --- Heavy weight, one more stone... https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 11/11/23 11:37:32 AM #10: |
Zikten posted...
Any Christian who saved Jesus would be destroying the religion. You'd come back to 2023 and find out nobody alive today even knows who Jesus is, and Christianity doesn't exist. It would be some tiny cult of a handful of people who thought some guy was a god but then everyone dropped it when the leader died of old age Don't you think this is putting too little faith in God/Jesus? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 11/11/23 11:39:14 AM #11: |
UnfairRepresent posted... Don't you think this is putting too little faith in God/Jesus?Not if Jesus or Yeshua, was not actually a god. Maybe he was just a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Arbron 11/11/23 11:41:33 AM #12: |
Time travel presents an interesting conundrum for the religious. Because if it's possible to alter causality to prevent someone's death, you're effectively removing a soul from Heaven (or Hell). Does God just let this happen? Or does time travel present us mortals with the ability to contradict and/or override God's will?
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UnfairRepresent 11/11/23 11:42:02 AM #13: |
Zikten posted...
Not if Jesus or Yeshua, was not actually a god. Maybe he was just a man.Very true but if you accept Jesus was just a man like you or I, then you're not really believing in Christianity. The entire core belief of Christianity is that Jesus Christ was the divine son of God. And rejecting that makes him no different than say Mr Rodgers or Tony Hawk. There's many factions of Christianity and different sects but I've never heard of one that rejects Jesus. Since at that point you may as well be a Muslim or Jew. Or at least a Deist/humanist Dark_Arbron posted... Time travel presents an interesting conundrum for the religious. Because if it's possible to alter causality to prevent someone's death, you're effectively removing a soul from Heaven (or Hell). Does God just let this happen? Or does time travel present us mortals with the ability to contradict and/or override God's will? God works in mysterious ways. Maybe your time travel is part of God's plan? Would certainly be a viable answer to the Problem of Evil if this shit gets retroactively fixed later --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 11/11/23 11:47:01 AM #14: |
I heard about a famous sci fi novel called Behold The Man. I've never read it but I read the summary of the plot. A man builds or finds a time machine and goes back to the Roman province of Palestine, around the year 30 AD. Rest will be massive spoilers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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