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Viktor Vaughn
07/22/11 4:53:00 PM
#301:


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X_Dante_X
07/22/11 4:58:00 PM
#302:


okay whos the wiseguy with the goggles

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/22/11 5:07:00 PM
#303:


MY NAME

IS RANDY ORTON

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Strife2
07/22/11 5:14:00 PM
#304:


Dolph should sue Orton and ADR for gimmick infringement a terrible gimmick yes, but it's still plagarism.

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SHINE GET 64
07/22/11 5:18:00 PM
#305:


Zeke needs to be World Heavyweight Champ right now

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Strife2
07/22/11 5:29:00 PM
#306:


At this rate, Christian should have an awesome OVR in WWE 12. *Goes to make list*

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Strife2
07/22/11 6:02:00 PM
#307:


I've finished my potential list of OVR for WWE 12. There's still a few months, and not everyone is going to be in, but for all the superstars I could think of (that are on or off TV), here's what I got.

WWE 12 OVR Ratings (including Legends/Hall of Famers/Jobbers)

Undertaker – 98
Stone Cold – 97
The Rock – 97
John Cena – 95
Randy Orton – 95
Shawn Michaels – 95
Triple H – 94
Edge – 94
Bret Hart - 93
CM Punk – 92
Christian – 92
Booker T – 91
The Miz – 91
Sheamus – 90
Alberto Del Rio - 90
R-Truth – 89
Rey Mysterio – 89
Kane – 89
Big Show – 89
John Morrison – 89
Jack Swagger – 88
Daniel Bryan – 88
Kofi Kingston – 88
Dolph Ziggler – 88
Jerry Lawler – 88
Cody Rhodes – 87
Evan Bourne – 87
Sin Cara - 87
Mark Henry – 86
Wade Barrett – 86
Ezekiel Jackson – 85
Mr. McMahon – 85
Alex Riley – 84
Drew McIntyre – 84
Santino Marella – 83
Vladimir Kozlov – 83
Ted DiBiase – 83
Mason Ryan – 83
Heath Slater – 82
Justin Gabriel – 82
David Otunga – 82
Michael McGillicutty - 82
Great Khali – 82
Jinder Mahal – 82
Jimmy Uso – 81
Jey Uso – 81
Tyson Kidd – 80
Zack Ryder – 80
Brodus Clay - 80
David Hart Smith – 79
Chris Masters - 79
Yoshi Tatsu – 78
Trent Barretta – 78
JTG – 77
Tyler Reks – 77
Curt Hawkins – 77

Divas

Beth Phoenix – 84
Kharma (had she debuted) - 84
Natalya - 83
Michelle McCool – 83
Melina – 81
Eve Torres - 80
Kelly Kelly – 79
Layla – 79
Gail Kim - 78
Brie Bella – 77
Nikki Bella – 76
Maryse - 76
Alicia Fox – 75
Tamina – 75
A.J. – 70
Kaitlyn – 70
Rosa Mendez - 66

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TimJab
07/22/11 6:16:00 PM
#308:


i've been in chicago for 9 hours and have not seen punk yet

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 6:18:00 PM
#309:


He was in California as of last night, he even saw a midnight showing of Captain America in LA.

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X_Dante_X
07/22/11 6:23:00 PM
#310:


I wonder who sheamus' best friend on the face bus will be

maybe it will be daniel bryan

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Strife2
07/22/11 6:24:00 PM
#311:


Epic Kane laughter makes me happy.

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X_Dante_X
07/22/11 6:25:00 PM
#312:


I wonder how much bigger the heel bus is than the face bus

I mean, since WWE has so many more heels

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 6:25:00 PM
#313:


X_Dante_X posted...
I wonder who sheamus' best friend on the face bus will be

maybe it will be daniel bryan


Are you sure he won't steal the MitB briefcase like a bully would steal a nerd's lunchbox on the school bus?

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SHINE GET 64
07/22/11 6:29:00 PM
#314:


first time Kane has been relevant in years

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 6:29:00 PM
#315:


SHINE GET 64 posted...
first time Kane has been relevant in years

not sure if serious...

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Panthera
07/22/11 6:30:00 PM
#316:


From: SHINE GET 64 | #314
first time Kane has been relevant in years


You mean since mid to late 2010?

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Viktor Vaughn
07/22/11 6:30:00 PM
#317:


From: JaKyL25 | #313
X_Dante_X posted...
I wonder who sheamus' best friend on the face bus will be

maybe it will be daniel bryan


Are you sure he won't steal the MitB briefcase like a bully would steal a nerd's lunchbox on the school bus?


no way, he's a face now!

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SHINE GET 64
07/22/11 6:31:00 PM
#318:


hasn't been relevant to me since he lost the mask

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X_Dante_X
07/22/11 6:31:00 PM
#319:


Jakyl, do you expect them to let a bully on the face bus? Come on now

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 6:32:00 PM
#320:


SHINE GET 64 posted...
hasn't been relevant to me since he lost the mask

Not even last year when he was main-eventing PPVs, beating Undertaker cleanly, and dominating SmackDown gloating about his 10-year Master Plan coming to fruition?

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Strife2
07/22/11 6:36:00 PM
#321:


Kane WAS superstar of the year last year, but fan voting being the ****fan that it is had Cena win out of utter stupidity. After all, look what Kane did.

MITB winner -> Cashed in same night
World Heavyweight Champion for five months
Dominated Rey Mysterio and Undertaker throughout feud
Consistently had amazing promos
Won cross brand matches with Raw superstars (or showed superiority overall)

I'd say he was at his best last year.

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SHINE GET 64
07/22/11 7:03:00 PM
#322:


I miss

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 7:29:00 PM
#323:


Strife2 posted...
Kane WAS superstar of the year last year, but fan voting being the ****fan that it is had Cena win out of utter stupidity. After all, look what Kane did.

MITB winner -> Cashed in same night
World Heavyweight Champion for five months
Dominated Rey Mysterio and Undertaker throughout feud
Consistently had amazing promos
Won cross brand matches with Raw superstars (or showed superiority overall)

I'd say he was at his best last year.


His biggest weakness is that he was still fairly mediocre for the first half of the year.

Still though, no one else really had any sort of dominant run like that in 2010.

Cena won a Chamber and had 1 decent reign where he dominated Batista, but after Dave was gone he lost it. He had one other reign lasting 5 minutes, and in the later part of the year he struggled against Nexus. I'd give him 5th Place.

Miz rose up through the midcard to the main event with 2 strong US Title reigns, a Unified Tag reign, a MitB win, and finally the WWE Championship. I'd give him 4th place.

Orton had a nice reign towards the end of the year, and did fairly well over the rest of the year with no real dips after getting rid of Legacy until Miz came along in December. I'd give him 3rd Place.

Sheamus had 2 reigns that when combined pretty much equal Kane's, and he also won King of the Ring, but his reigns were shakier than Kane's reign was. Still I think he's the clear 2nd Place.

And yeah, Kane's dominant 5 months gives him #1.

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 7:36:00 PM
#324:


And then the rest of the 2010 Top Ten:

6.) Edge (Rumble win in Jan., WHC win in Dec., nothing in-between)
7.) Chris Jericho (Chamber win, retained at WM)
8.) Wade Barrett (NXT Season 1 winner, main-evented many PPVs)
9.) Undertaker (opened year with WHC, retired Shawn Michaels)
10.) Jack Swagger (MitB win + WHC reign)

Swagger just barely edges out Rey for #10. I feel like his reign was better, as sad as that sounds.

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X_Dante_X
07/22/11 7:37:00 PM
#325:


I think Jakyl has a pretty good list

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 7:40:00 PM
#326:


Oh yeah and you can also toss in a 1-day Tag reign in Cena's accolades for 2010.

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Panthera
07/22/11 7:44:00 PM
#327:


From: JaKyL25 | #326
Oh yeah and you can also toss in a 1-day Tag reign in Cena's accolades for 2010.


When did this happen?

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Panthera
07/22/11 7:44:00 PM
#328:


Oh, right, with Otunga. Gee wonder how I forgot that

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 7:51:00 PM
#329:


Cena is probably the least-relevant 4-time Tag Team Champion in WWE history.

As far as impact on the titles go, I mean.

I believe he's the only person to ever win Tag Titles as a part of FOUR DIFFERENT "wacky mismatched tag partners who hate each other" teams.

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Panthera
07/22/11 7:52:00 PM
#330:


Two of his reigns add up to roughly 24 hours between them. That is sad.

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 7:53:00 PM
#331:


He has also faced three of his Tag Team Championship partners at Wrestlemania.

Cena vs. Otunga confirmed for WM29.

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voltch
07/22/11 8:15:00 PM
#332:


BROTUNGER the face of pro wrestling shaft!

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SmartMuffin
07/22/11 8:33:00 PM
#333:


So, did they ever actually explain when and how and why Angelina stopped being a zombie?

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voltch
07/22/11 8:58:00 PM
#334:


Angelina just went, to winter and said, "I get it"

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Lopen
07/22/11 9:02:00 PM
#335:


I thought the resolution of that storyline was pretty hilarious

Angelina and Winter are hanging out backstage, Madison Rayne walks up to them and talks a bunch of trash to Winter, and then Angelina cuts her off and says some random crap. Madison Rayne laughs and is like "oh, you talk now?"

And that was pretty much it. Honestly it was probably for the best once they started the zombie thing. Lot of potential there but they blew it when they started with that for more than one week.

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 9:25:00 PM
#336:


I took the implication as being "She was only zombified because she was drugged." And the drugging was necessary for the brainwashing.

Once the brainwashing took hold, she no longer needed to be drugged to pal around with Winter.

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voltch
07/22/11 9:27:00 PM
#337:


so who the hell is competing for the title at hardcore country justice?

Velvet/angelina/winter, didn't get who was the one challenging.

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SmartMuffin
07/22/11 9:34:00 PM
#338:


I think the PPV is Mickie/Winter, but Mickie/Velvet might happen on some Impact before then?

In any case, the drugging ALSO seemed to make Angelina into some no-selling Undertaker-like beast. Winter probably should have stuck with that.

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voltch
07/22/11 9:35:00 PM
#339:


Bully Ray: MY AB!

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SmartMuffin
07/22/11 9:38:00 PM
#340:


He worked hard on that ab!

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Lopen
07/22/11 9:38:00 PM
#341:


That made me legit laugh out loud. Bully Ray is a master.

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voltch
07/22/11 9:39:00 PM
#342:


that line made me laugh more than Velvet going "But I love taco tuesday"

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JaKyL25
07/22/11 9:46:00 PM
#343:


It's probably best to not have a zombie Undertaker character in a division that also contains people like Miss Tessmacher who might botch and legitimately hurt Angelina and completely blow up kayfabe.

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Wanglicious
07/22/11 10:37:00 PM
#344:


man, dragon's legit good on the mic as a goody goody face and talking cole down without being a heel in the process. and he gave Slater the guy's best singles match (and probably will be his best match for the year).

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Viktor Vaughn
07/22/11 10:39:00 PM
#345:


I hope that's not a knock on Slater! Guy's pretty damn good for being shunted into a lackey role for so long.

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Wanglicious
07/22/11 10:45:00 PM
#346:


nah, not a knock on him, he won me over in MITB pretty well. i mean i still want to punch him in the face every time he opens his mouth so that he can shut up, but his ring work's quite solid, which is surprising as hell due to, as you said, his being a lackey for... pretty much his entire WWE career thus far. Slater's never looked better than he did in that match, and appeared like a legit mid-carder. far more than i would've expected.

but guys that size are the ones Dragon's most familiar with and can easily bring out the best in 'em to wrestle a great match, and nobody can put on a match better than him either, so.... yeah. doubt they'll be feuding too since you've gotta push the MITB winner.

(let's go Ted vs. Slater.)

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Coffee Ninja
07/22/11 10:53:00 PM
#347:


SO I guess Taker was spotted by TMZ.....

Undertaker was spotted by TMZ this Afternoon and Stated he does not plan to return to WWE TV with his bald Look..

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Viktor Vaughn
07/22/11 10:56:00 PM
#348:


I want to know who Bryan will be in conflict with. He's got to be kept prominent if they're doing something with him, but most guys he could feasibly feud with are doing stuff. Who's left for him?


...Jinder Mahal, maybe?

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Viktor Vaughn
07/22/11 10:59:00 PM
#349:


I mean, feuding with Cole could get him over as a face, but it won't build him any credibility.

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Wanglicious
07/22/11 11:11:00 PM
#350:


....slightly frightened of the idea of Khali vs. Dragon.
one because i'm pretty sure wrestling a broomstick is easier for the guy.
two because i have a hard time seeing wwe put Dragon over.

Wade and Sheamus feuding does suck for him though, as both are pretty nice setups for him. Wade gets you the Nexus backstory, Sheamus gets you the US Title all over again, and they aren't Henry or Khali. ...that leaves Cody, Christian, and Orton. and i'm not sure what Cody's doing right now either.

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