Board 8 > Gamescom's MGS3 footage for the HD collection looks pretty good.

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Jeff Zero 08/22/11 12:36:00 AM #1:	Gotta sit through the guy talking for a moment and of course make sure you watch it in HD if at all possible. I'm pretty impressed. If MGS2 manages to look this good relative to its original appearance as well I'll be even more impressed. MGS3 on PS2 remains fairly beautiful so giving it the SHINE factor like this practically makes the game look like a PS3 title. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241612] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Gotta sit through the guy talking for a moment and of course make sure you watch it in HD if at all possible.I'm pretty impressed. If MGS2 manages to look this good relative to its original appearance as well I'll be even more impressed. MGS3 on PS2 remains fairly beautiful so giving it the SHINE factor like this practically makes the game look like a PS3 title. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 08/22/11 12:37:00 AM #2:	whats in the collection again? -- http://www.orvilletadle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/MvC2.jpg <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:241613] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> whats in the collection again? -- http://www.orvilletadle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/MvC2.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 12:37:00 AM #3:	From: BIGPUN9999 \| #002 whats in the collection again? MGS2 Substance, MGS3 Subsistence (featuring Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake and the all-amazing Secret Theater) and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241614] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: BIGPUN9999 \| #002whats in the collection again?MGS2 Substance, MGS3 Subsistence (featuring Metal Gear, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake and the all-amazing Secret Theater) and Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 08/22/11 12:37:00 AM #4:	Substance, Subsistence and PEACE WALKER the selling point for me! -- Menji+ What Will Never Be the Greatest. http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8184/ffxiii.gif <cite>Menji76 posted [p:241615] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Substance, Subsistence and PEACE WALKERthe selling point for me! -- Menji+ What Will Never Be the Greatest.http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8184/ffxiii.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psycho_Kenshin 08/22/11 12:38:00 AM #5:	Lookin' good, freakin' awesome. -- One Piece: Pirates with style! -= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =- <cite>Psycho_Kenshin posted [p:241616] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Lookin' good, freakin' awesome. -- One Piece: Pirates with style!-= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =- </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 08/22/11 12:39:00 AM #6:	isn't MGS3 coming out on the 3DS? -- http://6.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp8al2dw5G1qzhqy3o1_400.jpg <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:241617] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> isn't MGS3 coming out on the 3DS? -- http://6.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kp8al2dw5G1qzhqy3o1_400.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 12:40:00 AM #7:	From: BIGPUN9999 \| #006 isn't MGS3 coming out on the 3DS? Yes. It's an overload. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241618] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: BIGPUN9999 \| #006isn't MGS3 coming out on the 3DS?Yes. It's an overload. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 08/22/11 12:41:00 AM #8:	so good -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:241619] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> so good -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 12:42:00 AM #9:	From: ZFS \| #008 so good Holy s**. My girlfriend is playing through MGS2 for the first time right now and seeing it through component cables I kept thinking how great it holds up graphically but that is still* damn impressive. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241620] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: ZFS \| #008so goodHoly s***. My girlfriend is playing through MGS2 for the first time right now and seeing it through component cables I kept thinking how great it holds up graphically but that is still damn impressive. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 08/22/11 12:43:00 AM #10:	Even if this was just an excuse to play my favorite game again, it'd be pretty cool, but it looks like they really did polish it up quite nicely! -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:241621] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Even if this was just an excuse to play my favorite game again, it'd be pretty cool, but it looks like they really did polish it up quite nicely! -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 12:44:00 AM #11:	From: Xiahou Shake \| #010 Even if this was just an excuse to play my favorite game again, it'd be pretty cool, but it looks like they really did polish it up quite nicely! I know, right? I'm glad I set my expectations kinda low. And I still don't feel like graphics matter as much as aesthetics (which MGS3 in particular positively excels at) but even still this is looking really, really good. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241622] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: Xiahou Shake \| #010Even if this was just an excuse to play my favorite game again, it'd be pretty cool, but it looks like they really did polish it up quite nicely!I know, right? I'm glad I set my expectations kinda low. And I still don't feel like graphics matter as much as aesthetics (which MGS3 in particular positively excels at) but even still this is looking really, really good. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emporer_Kazbar 08/22/11 12:56:00 AM #12:	From: ZFS \| #008 so good Maybe it's the fact I haven't played MGS2 in 8 months, but I really don't see much of a difference here. Or in the video, for that matter (And I only finished Snake Eater again about a month and a half ago). Could I get some side-by-sides here? -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kazbar/gfaqscontest <cite>Emporer_Kazbar posted [p:241623] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: ZFS \| #008so goodMaybe it's the fact I haven't played MGS2 in 8 months, but I really don't see much of a difference here. Or in the video, for that matter (And I only finished Snake Eater again about a month and a half ago).Could I get some side-by-sides here? -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09)http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kazbar/gfaqscontest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Psycho_Kenshin 08/22/11 1:02:00 AM #13:	Just being displayed at the higher resolution, in 16:9 widescreen instead of 4:3 aspect ratio, with anti-aliasing (less jaggies), looks smooth and delicious. Still the same game mostly the same textures etc, but looks great like cranking up the settings on a PC game. -- One Piece: Pirates with style! -= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =- <cite>Psycho_Kenshin posted [p:241624] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Just being displayed at the higher resolution, in 16:9 widescreen instead of 4:3 aspect ratio, with anti-aliasing (less jaggies), looks smooth and delicious. Still the same game mostly the same textures etc, but looks great like cranking up the settings on a PC game. -- One Piece: Pirates with style!-= Metal Gear Solid: Tactical Espionage Action =- </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 08/22/11 1:27:00 AM #14:	Well I want to get into this series by the end of the year...at least somewhat... We can download them separately still if possible, right? Because I'm not all that interested in Peace Walker compared to MGS2 and MGS3. -- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2 Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:241625] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Well I want to get into this series by the end of the year...at least somewhat...We can download them separately still if possible, right? Because I'm not all that interested in Peace Walker compared to MGS2 and MGS3. -- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 08/22/11 1:32:00 AM #15:	From: Xiahou Shake \| #010 Even if this was just an excuse to play my favorite game again, it'd be pretty cool, but it looks like they really did polish it up quite nicely! This. I am super excited. It looks really nice, and it really does look like it was made for the PS3 now too. I'm so happy I'll have the whole MGS series on my PS3 as well, I won't have to hook up the PS2 for them anymore. I should probably get to selling the essential collection I have, since I won't be needing it anymore. When do the HD remakes come out? -- *~Halo* You're not the brightest. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/907/bandfinisher.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:241626] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: Xiahou Shake \| #010Even if this was just an excuse to play my favorite game again, it'd be pretty cool, but it looks like they really did polish it up quite nicely!This. I am super excited. It looks really nice, and it really does look like it was made for the PS3 now too. I'm so happy I'll have the whole MGS series on my PS3 as well, I won't have to hook up the PS2 for them anymore. I should probably get to selling the essential collection I have, since I won't be needing it anymore. When do the HD remakes come out? -- ~Halo You're not the brightest.http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/907/bandfinisher.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 08/22/11 1:36:00 AM #16:	XD I just found this and so I'll post it here. Excuse the crappy quality. Even to this day there's still little things I didn't know about this game. -- *~Halo* Live, fight, survive, as a family. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:241627] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> XD I just found this and so I'll post it here. Excuse the crappy quality.Even to this day there's still little things I didn't know about this game. -- ~Halo Live, fight, survive, as a family.http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SubDeity 08/22/11 1:46:00 AM #17:	So is there anywhere I can compare HD v. normal because that honestly looks the same to me. -- "The U.S. should detonate all its nukes on its own soil."-Terran [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. <cite>SubDeity posted [p:241628] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> So is there anywhere I can compare HD v. normal because that honestly looks the same to me. -- "The U.S. should detonate all its nukes on its own soil."-Terran [Evil Republican]Play Der Langrisser. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BIGPUN9999 08/22/11 1:52:00 AM #18:	From: SubDeity \| #017 So is there anywhere I can compare HD v. normal because that honestly looks the same to me. this, I really don't' know what I'm looking at in that screenshot nor in the footage -- http://wa4.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/johndmoney/ryu_color_palletized_copy.jpg <cite>BIGPUN9999 posted [p:241629] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: SubDeity \| #017So is there anywhere I can compare HD v. normal because that honestly looks the same to me.this, I really don't' know what I'm looking at in that screenshot nor in the footage -- http://wa4.images.onesite.com/capcom-unity.com/user/johndmoney/ryu_color_palletized_copy.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 1:58:00 AM #19:	Nowhere I'm currently aware of but there's definitely visible improvement, I booted up MGS2 and 3 and the textures are a lot better. MGS2's screenshot is making the colors a lot more vibrant too. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241630] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Nowhere I'm currently aware of but there's definitely visible improvement, I booted up MGS2 and 3 and the textures are a lot better. MGS2's screenshot is making the colors a lot more vibrant too. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 08/22/11 2:00:00 AM #20:	Collection needs more MGS3 Online -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:241631] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Collection needs more MGS3 Online -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 2:03:00 AM #21:	From: DeathChicken \| #020 Collection needs more MGS3 Online That's just not gonna happen! -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241632] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: DeathChicken \| #020Collection needs more MGS3 OnlineThat's just not gonna happen! -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Emporer_Kazbar 08/22/11 2:04:00 AM #22:	Doing some basic comparisons from MGS2 screenshots I can find, I'll agree that the picture seems to have brighter colors, but there's really nothing to say that that isn't something adjusted on the TV's screen. Basically, we need to see two pictures of a few of the same scenes (a couple tanker, a couple Big Shell) side-by-side, either captured or taken on the same television before anybody can make a fair judgment here. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kazbar/gfaqscontest <cite>Emporer_Kazbar posted [p:241633] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Doing some basic comparisons from MGS2 screenshots I can find, I'll agree that the picture seems to have brighter colors, but there's really nothing to say that that isn't something adjusted on the TV's screen.Basically, we need to see two pictures of a few of the same scenes (a couple tanker, a couple Big Shell) side-by-side, either captured or taken on the same television before anybody can make a fair judgment here. -- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09)http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kazbar/gfaqscontest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 2:06:00 AM #23:	but there's really nothing to say that that isn't something adjusted on the TV's screen. They're not just brighter though, they're flat-out better at illustrating what we're looking at. My Sony Trinitron with component cables can make MGS2 look positively shiny. Hell, it can practically make FFX dance. But it can't make those colors quite that striking! There's just a certain vibrancy to the matter. The side railing is deeper and the pipelines are more robust. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241634] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> but there's really nothing to say that that isn't something adjusted on the TV's screen.They're not just brighter though, they're flat-out better at illustrating what we're looking at. My Sony Trinitron with component cables can make MGS2 look positively shiny. Hell, it can practically make FFX dance. But it can't make those colors quite that striking!There's just a certain vibrancy to the matter. The side railing is deeper and the pipelines are more robust. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkMarioSamus 08/22/11 3:41:00 AM #24:	Okay guys. MGS2 takes place in New York City, seven years after the Shadow Moses incident. MGS3 takes place in Russia during the Cold War. Right? -- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2 Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:241635] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Okay guys.MGS2 takes place in New York City, seven years after the Shadow Moses incident.MGS3 takes place in Russia during the Cold War.Right? -- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 08/22/11 3:43:00 AM #25:	Yes -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:241636] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Yes -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 4:12:00 AM #26:	Yep. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241637] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Yep. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 08/22/11 6:28:00 AM #27:	It always bothered me that MGS2 supposedly took place on the Hudson, but you can't actually see any land, just water in all directions with no shorelines visible. It's a RIVER, you can see one shore while standing on the other. You should be able to see in both directions. SPOILERS It also strained credulity that when they crashed into Manhattan at the end, they were thrown all the way to Federal Hall, which is a good half-mile from the shore. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:241638] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> It always bothered me that MGS2 supposedly took place on the Hudson, but you can't actually see any land, just water in all directions with no shorelines visible. It's a RIVER, you can see one shore while standing on the other. You should be able to see in both directions.SPOILERSIt also strained credulity that when they crashed into Manhattan at the end, they were thrown all the way to Federal Hall, which is a good half-mile from the shore. -- Black Turtle spilled my diet soda! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheKoolAidShoto 08/22/11 6:42:00 AM #28:	I think the entire last few hours of MGS2 strains credulity -- It will launch for $350 with some Wii Sports s*. I bet my life on it. Damn, that KoolAid guy is awesome - NGamer64 <cite>TheKoolAidShoto posted [p:241639] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> I think the entire last few hours of MGS2 strains credulity -- It will launch for $350 with some Wii Sports s*. I bet my life on it. Damn, that KoolAid guy is awesome - NGamer64 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kotetsu534 08/22/11 6:47:00 AM #29:	It's well known that footage of Arsenal Gear ripping through New York was cut (for obvious reasons, remembering when it was released). -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) <cite>Kotetsu534 posted [p:241640] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> It's well known that footage of Arsenal Gear ripping through New York was cut (for obvious reasons, remembering when it was released). -- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ.(Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 08/22/11 8:21:00 AM #30:	From: BIGPUN9999 \| #006 isn't MGS3 coming out on the 3DS? You can never have too much MGS3! -- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:241641] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: BIGPUN9999 \| #006isn't MGS3 coming out on the 3DS?You can never have too much MGS3! -- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 08/22/11 8:27:00 AM #31:	Also, is the guy in the video pronouncing "MGS" as "Em-gizz?" -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:241642] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Also, is the guy in the video pronouncing "MGS" as "Em-gizz?" -- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gifhttp://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 08/22/11 12:48:00 PM #32:	I think people have a tendency to remember games looking better than they actually were. MGS2 has certainly aged well, better than pretty much every early PS2 game, but it didn't have the image quality and smoothness that it does now. People remember it being that way, though! need this -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:241643] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> I think people have a tendency to remember games looking better than they actually were. MGS2 has certainly aged well, better than pretty much every early PS2 game, but it didn't have the image quality and smoothness that it does now. People remember it being that way, though!need this -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Menji76 08/22/11 1:20:00 PM #33:	Pre-ordered. And I really hope Big Boss rank is not a trophy... -- Menji~ I got the drop on ya - don't flinch. <cite>Menji76 posted [p:241644] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Pre-ordered.And I really hope Big Boss rank is not a trophy... -- Menji~I got the drop on ya - don't flinch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 08/22/11 2:11:00 PM #34:	mgs2 > mgs3 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:241645] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> mgs2 > mgs3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 2:15:00 PM #35:	From: pjbasis \| #034 mgs2 > mgs3 lol no But 2 is still an 8.8 game. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241646] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> From: pjbasis \| #034mgs2 > mgs3lol noBut 2 is still an 8.8 game. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 08/22/11 2:17:00 PM #36:	love MGS2, but MGS3 is kojima's masterpiece <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:241647] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> love MGS2, but MGS3 is kojima's masterpiece </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 08/22/11 2:22:00 PM #37:	substance is what makes mgs2 a top tier game tbqh -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:241648] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> substance is what makes mgs2 a top tier game tbqh -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 08/22/11 2:48:00 PM #38:	Substance isn't really THAT big of a deal, at least in light of Subsistence. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:241649] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Substance isn't really THAT big of a deal, at least in light of Subsistence. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 08/22/11 2:53:00 PM #39:	Substance is far more significant than Subsistence. The latter is nice for the camera movement, but that's really the extent of it. Substance adds an extra 10-20 hours of pure gameplay to MGS2. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:241650] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Substance is far more significant than Subsistence. The latter is nice for the camera movement, but that's really the extent of it. Substance adds an extra 10-20 hours of pure gameplay to MGS2. -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 08/22/11 3:00:00 PM #40:	Is there a legit reason that MGS4 isn't on 360? -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbnnpg1cvM1qb9vsro1_400.jpg <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:241651] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Is there a legit reason that MGS4 isn't on 360? -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbnnpg1cvM1qb9vsro1_400.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 08/22/11 3:01:00 PM #41:	*MarvelousGerbil posted...* Is there a legit reason that MGS4 isn't on 360? from what I heard kojima didn't even want the HD collection on 360, might have something to do with it <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:241652] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> MarvelousGerbil posted...Is there a legit reason that MGS4 isn't on 360?from what I heard kojima didn't even want the HD collection on 360, might have something to do with it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 08/22/11 3:04:00 PM #42:	*Jeff Zero posted...* From: pjbasis \| #034 mgs2 > mgs3 lol no But 2 is still an 8.8 game. If mgs2 is an 8.8, then mgs3 is clearly an 8.5 <cite>pjbasis posted [p:241653] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Jeff Zero posted...From: pjbasis \| #034mgs2 > mgs3lol noBut 2 is still an 8.8 game.If mgs2 is an 8.8, then mgs3 is clearly an 8.5 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarvelousGerbil 08/22/11 3:05:00 PM #43:	If MGS2 is 8.8 then MGS3 is a 9.5 and Poops is still a 2.0 -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbnnpg1cvM1qb9vsro1_400.jpg <cite>MarvelousGerbil posted [p:241654] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> If MGS2 is 8.8 then MGS3 is a 9.5 and Poops is still a 2.0 -- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbnnpg1cvM1qb9vsro1_400.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/22/11 3:07:00 PM #44:	MGS3 is a 9.6 in my book. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241655] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> MGS3 is a 9.6 in my book. -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Liquid Wind 08/22/11 3:07:00 PM #45:	MGS3 is the best PS2 game(best game on the best console ever) <cite>Liquid Wind posted [p:241656] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> MGS3 is the best PS2 game(best game on the best console ever) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 08/22/11 3:08:00 PM #46:	Substance and MGS3 are close -- both probably something like a 9.5. Neither the best game on the PS2, though! -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:241657] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Substance and MGS3 are close -- both probably something like a 9.5. Neither the best game on the PS2, though! -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 08/22/11 3:12:00 PM #47:	100 point rating systems are silly anyways <cite>pjbasis posted [p:241658] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> 100 point rating systems are silly anyways </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZFS 08/23/11 8:35:00 AM #48:	yessir -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. <cite>ZFS posted [p:241659] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> yessir -- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 08/23/11 8:38:00 AM #49:	I've never played Substance, but I'm looking forward to it. Want to try out those Snake Tales! But Subsistence is great for the new camera and the Secret Theater. -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:241660] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> I've never played Substance, but I'm looking forward to it. Want to try out those Snake Tales!But Subsistence is great for the new camera and the Secret Theater. -- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jeff Zero 08/24/11 11:14:00 PM #50:	Found a pretty decent MGS3 pic to highlight the HD visuals. If you think this looks the same as before then you my friend have an insanely powerful televis... Oh hey, ZFS actually posted it already. HAH. Well I guess I'll bump this instead then? -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~ http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png <cite>Jeff Zero posted [p:241661] in Gamescom&#... [t:60097280]...</cite> <quote> Found a pretty decent MGS3 pic to highlight the HD visuals. If you think this looks the same as before then you my friend have an insanely powerful televis...Oh hey, ZFS actually posted it already. HAH. Well I guess I'll bump this instead then? -- "Setsuna, you have to change. To make up for me... who didn't change." ~SCP~http://img.imgcake.com/Jeffzeropngus.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board 8 > Gamescom's MGS3 footage for the HD collection looks pretty good. (+) Yeah! (+)

Board 8 > Gamescom's MGS3 footage for the HD collection looks pretty good.