Board 8 > Jesus Christ, Republican debate audience...

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From: SmartMuffin | #048
Also, Sarah Palin hurt McCain. He would have lost anyway, but she made his loss worse.

You too, red sox? How does it feel to be a useful you-know-what by spreading the made up lies and propaganda of the socialist machine?

holy god XD

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Reading through this I wanted to debate some of the points Smuffin made. Then some more. By the time I finished there was just too much wrong to go into, so I'm just going to shake my head and leave the topic.

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That's not a lie, that's the plain truth, and you don't need to hear it from any socialists to know it for truth. Sarah Palin is unpopular. You can say that the media made her unpopular, but that doesn't change the fact that she is. People don't want someone they perceive as stupid to be president. It has nothing to do with her conservatism, and everything to do with her perceived stupidity.

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Sorry, but the anti-Palin stuff just drives me nuts because its SO wrong and is a prime example of the whole "anyone will believe a lie if you repeat it often enough" logic.

I can't just allow it to go unchallenged. That's WHY so many people believe it.

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It's not just the liberal media anymore; it's the socialist media.

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"It is important that supporters and everyone at the club remembers that the cannon on the chest is more important than anybody."

Sarah Palin is unpopular. You can say that the media made her unpopular, but that doesn't change the fact that she is. People don't want someone they perceive as stupid to be president. It has nothing to do with her conservatism, and everything to do with her perceived stupidity.

Ahh, you switched tenses on me! She's unpopular NOW (because of the lies and the people like you who spread them), but she wasn't during and before the election. The media hate-machine took a bit of time to successfully destroy and villianze her and her family. They didn't get it done in the few months they had, so they spent the next few years keeping at it because they recognized her as a threat for the future.

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SmartMuffin posted...
Sorry, but the anti-Palin stuff just drives me nuts because its SO wrong and is a prime example of the whole "anyone will believe a lie if you repeat it often enough" logic.

this coming from you

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It's not just the liberal media anymore; it's the socialist media.

I refuse to allow socialists use of the word liberal. If there's anyone in politics who is a true classical liberal, it is Ron Paul.

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SmartMuffin posted...
No, you're the one who's missing the point. The economic argument against the death penalty is inherently flawed, because the death penalty IN AND OF ITSELF is not economically disadvantageous. The way we choose to go about it is, but that way could be changed. Texas could change the law and say that as soon as someone is sentenced to death, they pull out a pistol and shoot him in the head that very second. Then it would be MUCH cheaper.

You're right in that the death penalty itself isn't a money sink and that the methods are, but those methods have to be enforced to lessen the moral dilemma of whether or not the people we're putting down are actually guilty or not. I know empathy isn't exactly your thing, but come on.

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this coming from you

Right, because I repeat stuff that goes unchallenged all the time! xfd

I couldn't post "it's raining outside today" without some communist coming into my topic and personally attacking me!

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Ahh, you switched tenses on me! She's unpopular NOW (because of the lies and the people like you who spread them), but she wasn't during and before the election. The media hate-machine took a bit of time to successfully destroy and villianze her and her family. They didn't get it done in the few months they had, so they spent the next few years keeping at it because they recognized her as a threat for the future.

It's all a conspiracy, guys! Sarah Palin actually has presidential credentials! The socialist/communist media are just hiding them from us!

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"It is important that supporters and everyone at the club remembers that the cannon on the chest is more important than anybody."

I refuse to believe SMuffin is a real person.

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but those methods have to be enforced to lessen the moral dilemma of whether or not the people we're putting down are actually guilty or not

Okay. But in the interest of honesty, you should then reveal that there are two options. One is to eliminate the death penalty because the appeals process is so costly and we need a lengthy appeals process. However, if your interest was PURELY economic, you would favor my "shoot him in the head" argument. You don't, so obviously your interest is moral. So make the moral argument. It's a legitimate one. But don't hide behind shoddy economics.

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Smartmuffin, does your salary still come from taxpayer dollars?

Really, how do you live with such a glaring contradiction in your life? It's really sickening.

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Sarah Palin actually has presidential credentials!

She has common sense. That's the only "presidential credential" I need.

But no, ExTha, you're right. Let's keep electing only Ivy League graduates. Because that's worked out SO well for us for the past century.

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She was pretty unpopular by November. In September, she was well-liked, but by the election, she was not. Though granted, she was liked much better back then than now, so she probably didn't lose many votes for McCain (not like the demolition she would receive if she were the Republican nominee this time around). The Republicans had a hopeless election in 2008, the only one of them who could have avoided being branded as Bush 3.0 was Ron Paul.

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From: dethfdddddh | #065
how do you live with such a glaring contradiction in your life?

By missing them completely.

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"It is important that supporters and everyone at the club remembers that the cannon on the chest is more important than anybody."

Smartmuffin, does your salary still come from taxpayer dollars?

Yep. I entered into a contractual agreement, and I work for one of the very few agencies that the federal government is explicitly tasked with providing in the US constitution. I also do my job pretty damn well. You're getting a great value by employing me. You're welcome.

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From: SmartMuffin | #067
But no, ExTha, you're right.

Pretty much the only sentence from you that makes sense in here, bro. :)

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SWISH

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red sox 777 posted...
She was pretty unpopular by November. In September, she was well-liked, but by the election, she was not. Though granted, she was liked much better back then than now, so she probably didn't lose many votes for McCain (not like the demolition she would receive if she were the Republican nominee this time around). The Republicans had a hopeless election in 2008, the only one of them who could have avoided being branded as Bush 3.0 was Ron Paul.

In retrospect, Palin's reveal almost came off as McCain playing his trump card. People were pretty positive about her until she actually put herself out there, family issues, etc.

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In any case, if you favor a government where my job doesn't exist, vote for Ron Paul. He'll cut the DoD by a LOT more than Obama ever would...

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People were pretty positive about her until she actually put herself out there, family issues, etc.

Yeah, she practically BEGGED the media to harass her teenage daughter, hack into her e-mail account, and mock her child with down's syndrome. What a stupid *****!

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I also think the economic argument on the death penalty is stupid. But I think the moral one is really strong; we need a lengthy appeals process to stop the potential horror of being falsely executed. I know I'd rather be murdered by a private citizen than the government.

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I know I'd rather be murdered by a private citizen than the government.

Then go live in a state with no death penalty and strict gun control laws. Your odds will increase by quite a bit :)

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SmartMuffin posted...
Yeah, she practically BEGGED the media to harass her teenage daughter, hack into her e-mail account, and mock her child with down's syndrome. What a stupid *****!

lmbo

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Yeah, she practically BEGGED the media to harass her teenage daughter,

they never harassed her teenage daughter. they did, however, point out the inconsistency of pushing a "abstinence education is the best sex education" platform while having an unwed pregnant teenage daughter! that's aimed solely at Palin, and to me reads like "how do you reconcile the fact that your platform doesn't match reality at all."

SmartMuffin posted...
Smartmuffin, does your salary still come from taxpayer dollars?

Yep. I entered into a contractual agreement, and I work for one of the very few agencies that the federal government is explicitly tasked with providing in the US constitution. I also do my job pretty damn well. You're getting a great value by employing me. You're welcome.

You're using confiscated wealth, socialist.

What would John Galt say?

Why aren't you working in the private sphere, anyhow? No degree?

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Also, I think common sense is highly overrated in politicians and I'd far rather take the Ivy League educated candidate over someone who supposedly has common sense. We've elected predominantly people who graduated from elite schools for 200+ years and our country has done pretty well in that time.

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nah I'd rather have someone I could have a beer with

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They've got to be someone who graduated from an elite school and with whom I could have a beer. Preferably someone who went to elite schools not just anywhere, but in New England. Especially if they went to not one but two elite New England Ivy League schools. Even better if the schools have high endowments, because such schools will teach their students how best to manage finances. And I don't want the person to be too much of an overachiever, so I'd be more comfortable with someone who only got okay grades at these great schools. No need for fancy Rhodes Scholarships to study in England.

But seriously, I want the candidate to be:

1. Smart
2. Have the same vision for America that I do

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Why aren't you working in the private sphere, anyhow? No degree?

Not yet. Getting there. Sorry, I wasn't born into a rich family and I didn't feel like going into massive debt. Also, I was a slacker in high school.

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they never harassed her teenage daughter. they did, however, point out the inconsistency of pushing a "abstinence education is the best sex education" platform while having an unwed pregnant teenage daughter! that's aimed solely at Palin, and to me reads like "how do you reconcile the fact that your platform doesn't match reality at all."

She never pushed such a platform.

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SmartMuffin posted...
Why aren't you working in the private sphere, anyhow? No degree?

Not yet. Getting there. Sorry, I wasn't born into a rich family and I didn't feel like going into massive debt. Also, I was a slacker in high school.

John Galt spits on you.

Why didn't you work hard and get a scholarship?

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I'm having a difficult time believing that someone goes from "housewife" to "governor" while being really stupid. What does that say about all the people who she destroyed in elections along the way?

In any case red sox, I know you're being sarcastic, but it sounds like you just described your dream candidate to be GWB!

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There's no inconsistency between pushing an abstinence only program and having a pregnant teenage daughter. The inconsistency is between promoting good Christian morals and having a pregnant teenage daughter, and it's not a contradiction she could do anything about, just ironic.

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Why didn't you work hard and get a scholarship?

I told you, I was a slacker (and a statist) back then. Don't you worry though. I'll be out in the real world making fistfulls of cash soon enough :)

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In any case red sox, I know you're being sarcastic, but it sounds like you just described your dream candidate to be GWB!

Yup!

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SmartMuffin posted...
Why didn't you work hard and get a scholarship?

I told you, I was a slacker (and a statist) back then. Don't you worry though. I'll be out in the real world making fistfulls of cash soon enough :)

But only because you used confiscated wealth now, you communist.

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The inconsistency is between promoting good Christian morals and having a pregnant teenage daughter

This implies that

a) People who aren't Christians don't care if their teenage daughters get pregnant and
b) Only stupid people and hypocrites have children who don't do exactly what they say 100% of the time

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But only because you used confiscated wealth now, you communist.

I don't think Ayn Rand ever called for the disestablishment of the military. I'm not an expert though.

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It doesn't imply either of those things actually. It doesn't matter what non-Christians do, the contrast between the good Christian morals she promotes and the situation in her family is there as long as good Christian morals say having sex out of wedlock is bad. And as I said, there was nothing Sarah Palin could do about it, so it's really just ironic, not hypocrisy or anything like that. Personally I think it was admirable how she didn't pressure her daughter to get an abortion, knowing the damage the child could do to her reputation.

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SmartMuffin posted...
But only because you used confiscated wealth now, you communist.

I don't think Ayn Rand ever called for the disestablishment of the military. I'm not an expert though.

Pretty sure she didn't like the income tax that you use to steal our money, Marxist.

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SMuffin is so uncomfortable right now.

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"It is important that supporters and everyone at the club remembers that the cannon on the chest is more important than anybody."

Pretty sure she didn't like the income tax that you use to steal our money, Marxist.

True, but then again, neither do I. I'm all in favor of eliminating the income tax and replacing it with a tax on consumption. Are you?

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Personally I think it was admirable how she didn't pressure her daughter to get an abortion, knowing the damage the child could do to her reputation.

She also could have easily aborted her baby with Downs and chose not to do that either.

Although I find it hilarious that so many of you are so confused by someone actually doing something they believe in rather than whatever is the most politically expedient!

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a tax on consumption is by necessity a tax on the poor, of course no reasonable person is for it.