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SlymDayspring 09/10/11 12:12:00 PM #101: |
smartmuffin with the classic "stop pushing your gayness on me, keep it private like the GOOD ONES!"
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the icon ownz all 09/10/11 12:12:00 PM #102: |
From: redrocket | #095 it was obvious i was only talking about myself, and if that wasn't obvious enough I stated this: From: the icon ownz all | #087 so i have no idea how you could infer otherwise -- ICON: FUN FUN FUN FUN ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:13:00 PM #103: |
From: SmartMuffin | #100 so every time I make a topic that's related to homosexuality, the only thing I'm ever saying is "wah being gay is so hard feel bad for me" despite the fact that I've pretty much never tried to garner sympathy from this board with my sexuality before? lol you're SmartMuffin why am I even responding to you don't you have some abortions to go protest? -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/gagawhatpngun.png Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 09/10/11 12:13:00 PM #104: |
live in new york.
not really, no. minor changes sure, but when most of your teenage life involved the internet, it really doesn't matter a whole hell of a lot. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CrimsonOcean 09/10/11 12:14:00 PM #105: |
People just need to be themselves, yo.
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:14:00 PM #106: |
icon, like I said. Maybe you're right. Maybe you live in a place where your sexuality is as insignificant as the color of your eyes.
All I'm saying is, I doubt it. I disagree. I don't think that, in 2011, such a place exists. Again, maybe I'm wrong, but I find it far more likely that you just aren't considering enough of the factors that come into play here. We can agree to disagree. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/NewYorkgifav.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 09/10/11 12:14:00 PM #107: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #083 Was there ever any point to this beyond feeling the need to score your points about how dumb straight people are? Because your hurry to take any dissenting opinion and reply to it with "just shows me how straight people can never think/can't ever understand things lol" kind of indicates there wasn't. Here's the thing - you're being equally dismissive of the experiences of other people as you claim they are being of you. Not just in your refusal to accept that some people haven't encountered all that much homophobia (which is funny when you start insisting they did, as if you're more informed of their lives than they are), but also in your refusal to accept that people can put themselves in your shoes and actually come to a conclusion other than the one you want them to. I'm not going to say I know *exactly* what my life would be if I were gay, but if you think not being gay means I can't know at all what it's like to have people hate me and go out of their way to harass me for years, you're a little oblivious -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 09/10/11 12:15:00 PM #108: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #094 i'm not assuming, i could have sworn that one of you said your parents kicked you out of the house or something sue me for being incorrect my question is, if you're so happy and well-adjusted, then why would your life be different if you were straight? if you endured no hardships in either scenario, what's the difference? maybe if you're straight you're not obsessed with gaga? does that really change your life? -- http://i.imgur.com/5vOFJ.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 09/10/11 12:17:00 PM #109: |
even if you live in some utopia like you say, there is still the fact that being gay means you have like 5 people to choose from as far as relationships go and none of them are attractive and they are all crazy.
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:18:00 PM #110: |
From: TimJab | #105 okay seriously where did these lies come from I swear to god like 10 different people have talked to me about my parents apparently kicking me out of my house that never happened >_> and are you implying that all happy, well-adjusted people are the exact same and have the exact same lives? My life would definitely be different had I been born straight. I probably would've struggled with my religious beliefs a lot less. I'd probably have had several girlfriends by now. I wouldn't have lost all my male friends in middle school. I wouldn't have been made fun of on a daily basis from 7th-10th grade for my sexuality. I probably wouldn't be nearly as confident or sure of myself as I am. That's only scratching the surface. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/benrysheregifne.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 09/10/11 12:18:00 PM #111: |
the icon ownz all posted...
From: redrocket | #095 TimJab, it's great that you and Icon apparently live in Utopia, just understand that your local area is a very rare example and that the difference between where you live and the norm is quite drastic. it was obvious i was only talking about myself, and if that wasn't obvious enough I stated this: From: the icon ownz all | #087 There are others who have said their lives would be different if they were gay, and I believe them, even if the same doesn't hold true for me. They know their environment better than I do. so i have no idea how you could infer otherwise I wasn't talking to you, I was just using you as an example of another person who is apparently in TimJab's situation. I was talking to him in response to his "for every bigot there are 1000 people who aren't" line. That's so naive it's kind of stunning. -- From his looks Magus is Macho Man Randy Savage as an anime zombie. The black wind howls, and one of you will snap into a Slim Jim ooh yeeeah! -sonicblastpunch ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:18:00 PM #112: |
From: SlymDayspring | #110 XFD -- http://i54.tinypic.com/2mh625c.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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metaIslugg 09/10/11 12:18:00 PM #113: |
If I was different, I would be different.
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TimJab 09/10/11 12:18:00 PM #114: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #107 if you can give me one example where you were denied a job, an acceptance to college, a friendship (which almost assuredly wouldn't be worth it if they're homophobic) or anything else that plays a part in shaping your life because you're gay, then i will buy this. something that truly matters. -- http://i.imgur.com/5vOFJ.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 09/10/11 12:19:00 PM #115: |
From: SlymDayspring | #110 You heard it here folks, all gay people are ugly and insane ;) -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:19:00 PM #116: |
From: Panthera | #108 yes, actually. I made this topic because I get irritated when I see insecure gay guys who are obsessed with making it known that they aren't "defined" by their sexuality and go out of their way to make it seem like the fact that they're gay is completely insignificant and affects absolutely nothing about themselves. When, in fact, being born gay affects you in huge ways, even if they aren't all entirely obvious. I figured a group of straight guys would be able to say "yeah, if I had been born gay, it's safe to say my life would be different" but apparently that's not the case. -- http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the icon ownz all 09/10/11 12:20:00 PM #117: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #107 That's not what this is. You're saying that straight people don't "get" what it's like to be gay (which is true) and then claiming that I am wrong about my local social climate, one you've never experienced. Nearly 40%, the majority of Vancouverites, identify as a Humanist, Atheist, Agnostic, or otherwise. Gay marriage has been legal here for nearly a decade. Move to Vancouver. -- ICON: I'm pretty serious about chocobos. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:22:00 PM #118: |
From: the icon ownz all | #117 I'm not trying to say you're wrong about the area you live in, I'm just saying taking a look at a place and saying "this area is generally not homophobic" doesn't necessarily give your grounds to say "had I been born gay, my life would be exactly the same." I mean, I don't live in a racist area. Black people have had equal rights in America for a good what, 50 years now? That doesn't mean I'd ever try to claim that, had I been born black, my life wouldn't be different at all. I could never logically conclude that, because I have no idea what being black is like. -- http://i54.tinypic.com/2eksoli.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 09/10/11 12:23:00 PM #119: |
...and timjab also lives in nyc, so not having any major changes makes sense there too. if you live in an urban area where people don't give two ****s about whether you like roast beef or hot dogs then most 'social problems' go away with it. anyone who's been on a computer for way, way too long in their life also gets to the same split - you ain't introverted because you're gay or straight, you're just introverted. there's plenty of minor changes that can happen in life, and sexuality can lead to a bunch of those. doesn't mean it'll ever reach any major change that'd make you a 'different person,' doesn't mean it'll affect your major experiences, or any of that.
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TimJab 09/10/11 12:23:00 PM #120: |
From: redrocket | #111 you have a hilariously pessimistic view of the world what does it matter to mer and cyclo is gays are stoned to death in the middle east or wherever the **** it happens. obviously it's horrible but it doesn't tangibly affect their lives in any way. for those of us living in the civilized world (ie all of us) we are surrounded by people that are generally good. there are a few bad apples of course, but overall it's only a very small % of people that truly pose a real threat to mer and cyclo's safety. From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #109 i actually thought it was cyclo, not you -- http://i55.tinypic.com/20t3qfm.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 09/10/11 12:24:00 PM #121: |
If I had been born black, for one thing, my dad probably would have been pretty upset about at my mother.
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Swiftlicious 09/10/11 12:24:00 PM #122: |
This is common sense isn't it? Depending on how you act, people are going to treat you differently. If you're of a percent of the gay community that acts very effeminate, odds are in the vicious highschool/grammar school world you're going to be treated as an outcast (I saw it happen all too often).
it's going to affect where you frequent and when... obviously social events where you're trying to "get some" aren't the same for straight and gay people... so you may have a different class of friends, different interests, different avenues that shape your perspectives, your ideals, your goals and job opportunities. If I were gay, my life would be a helluva different than it is now. If you were straight, Mer, your life would be a helluva lot different now. So I ask you, since this is obviously a post of us agreeing, why make such a simple topic? I havent read the majority of it and I'm sure there's trolling to be found in here, but this is really a common sense question. It's like asking "If you were a girl would your life be totally different." Sexual preference is huge and changes a lot about a person unless they up and just poof change their mind at 24 or something. -- *~Swift~* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:25:00 PM #123: |
Swift with the logic
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Panthera 09/10/11 12:26:00 PM #124: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #116 When most of the responses have been saying that it would be different, but they don't know by how much or they don't think it would change their overall personality, just specific events, does that really qualify as enough to start doing your "guess I was wrong to think straight people knew how to empathize" routine? -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 09/10/11 12:26:00 PM #125: |
being black is something that everyone can see. being gay isn't. bad comparison. closer to religion on that angle - unless you show something off about it, there's no way to tell.
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TimJab 09/10/11 12:26:00 PM #126: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #116 i'm not saying i wouldn't be different, i'm saying i wouldn't be different in any truly significant areas minor changes to my interests (maybe i prefer to watch a musical instead of football) doesn't change who i am -- http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6967/timfavre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:26:00 PM #127: |
From: Panthera | #124 Yeah, perhaps you're right - I wasn't trying to lump the entirety of straight people under an umbrella like that. I'm sorry. -- http://i54.tinypic.com/qycmle.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Biolizard28 09/10/11 12:27:00 PM #128: |
Seems pretty obvious why he made this topic.
Every B8er thinks they're the f***ing Buddah and the enlightened answer to this question would be that their lives would stay the same, because they are who they are and nothing more. If you told this to any minority, especially anyone who's ever been actively discriminated against, they'd kick you in the shins. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SmartMuffin 09/10/11 12:27:00 PM #129: |
If I were gay, I'd have a better chance of getting into good business schools because I would be an "underrepresented group"
*expects this to get modded despite being a 100% factual statement* -- SmartMuffin - Because anything less would be uncivilized http://img.imgcake.com/gadsdenflaggifda.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Swiftlicious 09/10/11 12:28:00 PM #130: |
TimJab posted...
From: redrocket | #111 I wasn't talking to you, I was just using you as an example of another person who is apparently in TimJab's situation. I was talking to him in response to his "for every bigot there are 1000 people who aren't" line. That's so naive it's kind of stunning. you have a hilariously pessimistic view of the world what does it matter to mer and cyclo is gays are stoned to death in the middle east or wherever the **** it happens. obviously it's horrible but it doesn't tangibly affect their lives in any way. for those of us living in the civilized world (ie all of us) we are surrounded by people that are generally good. there are a few bad apples of course, but overall it's only a very small % of people that truly pose a real threat to mer and cyclo's safety. From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #109 okay seriously where did these lies come from I swear to god like 10 different people have talked to me about my parents apparently kicking me out of my house that never happened >_> i actually thought it was cyclo, not you I remember the house kicking out thing... it's an example of how hearsay and the "grape vine" can truly destroy an authentic message. As for Tim's post, this is a really good post. It doesn't truly affect their lives. The United States really does treat gays well.. only a few other western euro countries are really so open minded. Not to say everything is peachy keen, but gays can live a pretty normal life. My closest uncle is gay, has been since he can remember having sexual interests as a boy, and is a millionaire living in california. Is he a bit odd? sure, but he still lives a very successful life, isn't threatened, etc. -- *~Swift~* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:28:00 PM #131: |
From: Wanglicious | #125 I ****ing hate when people use this argument. "Oh, you can hide being gay, so it's different." The only people who will hide their sexuality for their entire lives are going to be miserable, no one's going to have a satisfactory life when they're living a lie like that. This is common sense. -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/holdupgifaq.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 09/10/11 12:28:00 PM #132: |
'being black isn't a big deal as long as you act white nobody cares- just don't act black!'
this is basically what is being said -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 09/10/11 12:29:00 PM #133: |
f you're of a percent of the gay community that acts very effeminate,
correction: if you act very effeminate. if you're straight (or bi, everyone forgets the bis) and act that way, you're gonna get railed too. there are straight guys who crossdress, put make up on, and behave less like the standard male and more like the standard female. that's a matter of behavior however, and sexuality does not have to affect said behavior. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Boombunker36 09/10/11 12:29:00 PM #134: |
There is no such thing as being born a sexuality. God created men for women, and women for men
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:29:00 PM #135: |
From: Swiftlicious | #130 I get what you're trying to say but as a gay person hearing you say that the US treats us "well" is pretty ridiculous when we don't even have equal rights. -- http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PjqES.jpg Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Swiftlicious 09/10/11 12:29:00 PM #136: |
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted...
Swift with the logic my god dude I'm always logical and stuff. I troll you, and others around here, because it's fun lol don't look so shocked. The only things you and I don't have in common are I'm straight, you're gay, you're very effeminate and like music I detest (and I'm not effeminate and like music you detest) and ... really that's it. We're gamers, we like music, we're both men lol trolling aside you'll be hard pressed to find many moments I am irrational or without good argument. -- *~Swift~* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 09/10/11 12:29:00 PM #137: |
From: Swiftlicious | #122 so wait if you were gay, you wouldn't drive 8 hours to spend a week with extha alone in his basement? -- http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6782/timj1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 09/10/11 12:30:00 PM #138: |
you're gonna get railed too
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Liquid Wind 09/10/11 12:30:00 PM #139: |
I ****ing hate when people use this argument.
"Oh, you can hide being gay, so it's different." The only people who will hide their sexuality for their entire lives are going to be miserable, no one's going to have a satisfactory life when they're living a lie like that. This is common sense. no ones saying you have to hide it, just don't wear it on your sleeve remember when I talked about how straight guys literally can't go out in public without being like CHECK OUT THAT GIRLS ASS constantly? just don't act like a gay version of that and there's no reason to assume things about you -_- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Swiftlicious 09/10/11 12:30:00 PM #140: |
Wanglicious posted...
f you're of a percent of the gay community that acts very effeminate, correction: if you act very effeminate. if you're straight (or bi, everyone forgets the bis) and act that way, you're gonna get railed too. there are straight guys who crossdress, put make up on, and behave less like the standard male and more like the standard female. that's a matter of behavior however, and sexuality does not have to affect said behavior. I find that form of behavior is very linked to gayness, and I guess bisexuality but I won't ever know since I don't try to delve into it/understand it since it isn't my thing. So carry on I guess? -- *~Swift~* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:31:00 PM #141: |
From: Swiftlicious | #136 this is a pretty huge misconception b8 has about me but I'm not going to get into that right now -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/brittanakissgifga.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 09/10/11 12:31:00 PM #142: |
....nobody said hide the fact that you're gay. it's simply not, quite literally, on the surface of a person. doesn't mean you have to scream to the hills that you're gay. once again, on this angle it's like religion.
do you have to hide that you're jewish? athiest? christian? no. you don't. that doesn't mean you have to wear a hat that denotes what religion you are. so not sure how you got to that conclusion at all. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Swiftlicious 09/10/11 12:32:00 PM #143: |
Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer posted...
From: Swiftlicious | #130 I remember the house kicking out thing... it's an example of how hearsay and the "grape vine" can truly destroy an authentic message. As for Tim's post, this is a really good post. It doesn't truly affect their lives. The United States really does treat gays well.. only a few other western euro countries are really so open minded. Not to say everything is peachy keen, but gays can live a pretty normal life. My closest uncle is gay, has been since he can remember having sexual interests as a boy, and is a millionaire living in california. Is he a bit odd? sure, but he still lives a very successful life, isn't threatened, etc. I get what you're trying to say but as a gay person hearing you say that the US treats us "well" is pretty ridiculous when we don't even have equal rights. Bro compare that to the rest of the world and then re read what I said, and what you said. You guys are LUCKY you're treated this good here. I am 100% for gay rights, always have been, always will be but things don't just change overnight. Ask minorities. You're treated good here compared to how the rest of the world, sans a few euro areas, would treat you... my sentence isn't that hard to understand bro... -- *~Swift~* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the icon ownz all 09/10/11 12:32:00 PM #144: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #118 This is true, but this is not what I said at all. I didn't say my area is "generally not homophobic," I specifically mentioned that important individuals involved in my life during my formative years were either gay themselves or very accepting of gay loved ones. The issue here isn't that you can't empathize with my life, it's that you've already made up your mind on this subject and refuse to listen to any dissenting opinions, even when those dissenting opinions only relate to one individual life. -- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And well change the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Panthera 09/10/11 12:32:00 PM #145: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #132 It's less a matter of permanently hiding that you're gay and more that not everyone you run into is going to know you're gay, whereas they will know your skin colour. A guy who hates both black people and gay people who also happens to work at a store might treat a black guy as crappy as his job will let him, while being decent to you because odds are he's not going to be able to tell you're gay. Definitely a difference between the two. -- We clasped our hands, our hands in praise of a conquerors right to tyranny ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer 09/10/11 12:32:00 PM #146: |
From: Liquid Wind | #139 why should gay people have to hide something that straight people don't? I love when people talk about how gay people "throw their sexuality in people's faces" do you know how many images of heterosexuality I'm bombarded with on a daily basis -- http://img.imgcake.com/MerMerYesMer/romywhipmyhairgifar.gif Mer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rusry 09/10/11 12:32:00 PM #147: |
i go to a school where being gay makes you an outcast around the school and those kids get bullied a lot
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Biolizard28 09/10/11 12:33:00 PM #148: |
Wanglicious posted...
....nobody said hide the fact that you're gay. it's simply not, quite literally, on the surface of a person. doesn't mean you have to scream to the hills that you're gay. once again, on this angle it's like religion. do you have to hide that you're jewish? athiest? christian? no. you don't. that doesn't mean you have to wear a hat that denotes what religion you are. so not sure how you got to that conclusion at all. Not every gay person who is harassed about their sexuality is a walking stereotype. -- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Swiftlicious 09/10/11 12:33:00 PM #149: |
TimJab posted...
From: Swiftlicious | #122 If I were gay, my life would be a helluva different than it is now. so wait if you were gay, you wouldn't drive 8 hours to spend a week with extha alone in his basement? his bedroom is in his attic but yes, I wouldn't. I'd prolly go there multiple weeks lol. -- *~Swift~* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimJab 09/10/11 12:34:00 PM #150: |
From: Mer_Mer_Yes_Mer | #135 are you serious? are gays allowed to vote? are they allowed to go to school? can they drink at the straight water fountain? the only right you guys don't have is the right to get married, and that's quickly changing. if you want, you can move to vancouver or new york (icon's and my hometown, respectively) where you're already allowed to. -- http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/670/ohbrett.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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