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transcience
09/10/11 11:28:00 AM
#1:


have you played Shadow Hearts?

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Theo72
09/10/11 11:36:00 AM
#2:


theo finish sh2

wait

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 11:38:00 AM
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Pretty sure he hasn't.

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transcience
09/10/11 11:50:00 AM
#4:


you should fix this if true. I see you lamenting the death of Square in damn near every topic about the company but you haven't played the best RPG series on the PS2.

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SHINE GET 64
09/10/11 11:51:00 AM
#5:


HE'S TRYING TO TRICK YOU

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FateStayAlbion
09/10/11 11:51:00 AM
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How is SH3 anyway? Never got around to playing that one, only first two

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 11:51:00 AM
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Most people think SH3 isn't that great.

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/10/11 11:52:00 AM
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I've only played Shadow Hearts: Covenant, was pretty cool.

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pjbasis
09/10/11 11:52:00 AM
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Silent Hill 3 is great.

And how many attn: Jeff Zero topics do we need anyway?
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transcience
09/10/11 7:44:00 PM
#10:


bump!

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Jeff Zero
09/10/11 7:45:00 PM
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I most certainly have not! And I don't even know why. It's one of those non-Square series that I stupidly missed out on when they came out.

It's on the to-do list, alongside expanding my experience with Dragon Quest, Suikoden and various Atlus and Xseed series. But thanks for the reminder. I may go see if the local Gamestops have any left tomorrow morning.

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transcience
09/10/11 7:47:00 PM
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whoops bumped too soon

yeah, fix this. SH1 is a PS1 classix. SH2 is FFX with a quirky side.

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ZFS
09/10/11 7:47:00 PM
#13:


Shadow Hearts best PS2 RPG

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Jeff Zero
09/10/11 7:47:00 PM
#14:


Noted!

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transcience
09/10/11 8:00:00 PM
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a playthrough topic shall follow your acquisition. tomorrow.

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Jeff Zero
09/10/11 8:02:00 PM
#16:


I still owe Weaku a Wild Arms 4 playthrough topic first, he bought me that game >_>;

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 8:05:00 PM
#17:


SH2 > SH1

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transcience
09/10/11 8:07:00 PM
#18:


that's your fault for accepting it

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ZFS
09/10/11 8:08:00 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
SH2 > SH1

Popular opinion, but not the right one!

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Jeff Zero
09/10/11 8:08:00 PM
#20:


Hey, I have nothing but good things to say about it thus far

List of things to say about it thus far:

1.) Box is nice
2.) Art book is nifty addition

=)

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 8:09:00 PM
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SH1 not enough Yuri owning faces

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transcience
09/10/11 8:12:00 PM
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SH1 doesn't need Yuri owning faces because there's more to it than that

besides, the opening scene is the goddamn definition of face owning. also, my favorite RPG intro ever

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 8:15:00 PM
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It's pretty good. I like a certain SH2 scene better in that regard though.

SH1 and SH2 are probably a push for me aside from the battle system. SH2's battle system is basically what decides it for me.

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transcience
09/10/11 8:16:00 PM
#24:


yeah they're close for me too. the difficulty is what decides it for me.

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KamikazePotato
09/10/11 8:17:00 PM
#25:


SH1/2 are pretty great.

I think we should just make a list of RPGs for Jeff Zero to try out. Guy needs to take his mind off of Square!

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ZFS
09/10/11 8:18:00 PM
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I prefer SH1's skill system, and the more balanced difficulty in SH1 makes battles more enjoyable and interesting. SH2 has more potential depth to it, but none of it necessary, because just straight up attacking will get the job done 90% of the time.

SH2 does have better action scenes, but there are some low profile scenes in SH1 that have really stuck with me since I played it. Stuff that most people probably wouldn't readily recall. Intro is the greatest, though!

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transcience
09/10/11 8:20:00 PM
#27:


yeah, SH1 has something in the walls that screams Square ps1 game. it's coarse and moody and angular and highly memorable.

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Jeff Zero
09/10/11 8:21:00 PM
#28:


KP is correct tbqh

I'm going back to DQVIII-grinding for a bit and then bed though, I may not see the list until tomorrow

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ZFS
09/10/11 8:21:00 PM
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Yeah, totally. I haven't played a RPG before or since that has matched the atmosphere of SH1. Amazing setting, too.

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 8:21:00 PM
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I don't think SH1 is all that difficult. I mean, it doesn't take much to be harder than SH2, but still. Not sure SH1's battles being more enjoyable and interesting! Straight up attacking is usually enough for most SH1 battles, too.

I hardly consider "Characters learn new moves at a certain level" a "system" though!

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ZFS
09/10/11 8:23:00 PM
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That's my favorite kind of skill learning in RPGs! All goes back to FFIV for me!

I wouldn't call SH1 difficult, necessarily, but it does have some tough fights. You can get pushed down to low health / have team members get KOed much more often than SH2, too. I think it strikes a good balance.

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 8:25:00 PM
#32:


Eh, I like having more control over what my characters learn than just "Okay, here's what your characters get and when."

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Jeff Zero
09/10/11 8:27:00 PM
#33:


I rather enjoy the skills-by-level system! I wouldn't want every RPG to be that way as I like some other systems too but when I go back to, say, FFIV, it always feels good.

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ZFS
09/10/11 8:28:00 PM
#34:


Depends. I don't have anything against having control, but learning skills with new levels always makes the level up process more enjoyable. Nothing like getting a new skill after a boss fight! SH2's Crests do nothing for me, though. Didn't like that system at all.

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 8:29:00 PM
#35:


Crests are all right.

They do the Fusion system a lot better in SH2 though.

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ZFS
09/10/11 8:33:00 PM
#36:


Yeah, I'd agree. I do like how they handled that.

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transcience
09/10/11 8:36:00 PM
#37:


don't wanna get into an in-depth argument in front of someone who hasn't played, nor on my phone, but I like SH1's skills by level thing. it's simple and effective which matches the kind of game it is. SH2 has great stuff that's marred by a crappy ability system.

SH1 battles keep you feeling like you're in danger without overwhelming you. they're grindy, yeah, but you feel like something's at stake. SH2 is just wail away until the thing dies. SH2 certainly has other advantages but I'm not sure battle system is it, despite how completely superior it seems on the surface.

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LeonhartFour
09/10/11 8:40:00 PM
#38:


SH2's battles are just more fun to me. I like the flash and flair of it better.

Don't really care about difficulty when it comes to enjoying games, so...

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transience
09/11/11 10:35:00 AM
#39:


did you buy this yet y/n

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pjbasis
09/11/11 10:41:00 AM
#40:


lol FFIV fans defend "level-up system"
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transience
09/11/11 10:42:00 AM
#41:


the best

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The Real Truth
09/11/11 10:44:00 AM
#42:


SH2 is amazing
SH1 is alright

SH3 is complete ass

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dragon22391
09/11/11 10:46:00 AM
#43:


oh hey shadow hearts topic

2=1>3, all three are great go play them

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