From: Leebo86 | #045 transience posted... Big East will be fine, really. Syracuse and Pitt are good but there's still UConn, Louisville, Cincinnati, Georgetown, Villanova, Notre Dame, etc.
it's just a big emotional hit to have the big school in the conference bail.
The problem is that I don't think the conference would be okay from a football perspective. And if it's not okay from a football perspective, it's going to disband.
^Diet Water is one that I know of. The Raven 2 lives down around there too.
Both of them are filthy UNC fans though.
I'm not too sure how I feel about all this. Certainly it makes the ACC better for the college sport that matters, but I feel like ripping the heart out of the Big East like this is worse for the sport overall.
Duke/Syracuse and Duke/Pitt twice a year though will be sick-nasty to watch and all, but Cuse/G'town and Cuse/UConn were games I always looked forward to watching (especially in the Big East tourney)
Maybe they could set it up so that Cuse/Town play each other out of conference every year?
As a huge college football fan and still a pretty big college basketball fan as well, this conference alignment nonsense makes me sick to my stomach. Someone needs to call a f***ing timeout on all this before we lose two of the 6 BCS conferences.
I'm starting to be less disgusted by the idea as time goes by. Still not completely giving up on the possibility of the Big East making a big move to grab teams from another conference though.
The Big East doesn't have enough clout as a football conference to get any major schools though. They'd basically have to pilfer Conference USA again or do something similar.
The hope would be that they could convince one of the Big 12 schools to join and/or convince ND to join in football. It doesn't make the conference stronger than it was, but it might prevent a collapse.
I think ND would sooner join the Big Ten in football before it'd join the Big East. It has a ton of natural rivalries with Big Ten teams already, and virtually none with the Big East.
This will never happen in Lax. I'm pretty sure there's a few schools not in their usual "divisions", for balance reasons. ACC is 4 of the best schools in lax usually - UNC, UVA, Maryland, and Duke. They're not adding Cuse to that.
And yes, people do care about hopkins lax, at least within the lax world. Yankees of lacrosse basically. Heh.
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This has happened before I'm pretty sure. I can't recall atm which schools aren't in their normal divisions but I know they happen. I mean, I'm just guessing but because other teams have been moved out of their normal divisions, I can't see Syracuse making the move to the ACC for lacrosse. ACC is the smallest div at 4 teams though, so making the 5th Syracuse would make things funny.
The ACC doesn't have an auto-playoff bid in lax, but I believe the big east does, so this basically would cinch Notre Dame making the dance every year... all the other ACC teams usually make it anyway.
It'd be kind of interesting if JHU got put in the ACC too for lax but that'd never happen. Rockin' Independent
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If Texas is still in the Big 12, I doubt the Big 12 would do the merger. I think what would happen is the scraps of the Big 12 and the scraps of the Big East would get together.
Also, it wouldn't be that outrageous of a geographical situation if it was like... Kansas, Iowa State, Kansas State, Louisville, Cincinnati, Marquette, West Virginia, Notre Dame, DePaul, with some other schools on the outskirts.
If the Big 12 doesn't wind up dissolving, they should bring in TCU. But that's completely moot because the Big 12 is dissolving so I don't know why I even bring it up.
To be totally serious here, this is saddening. Some of my fondest sports memories are Syracuse, Pitt and UConn in the Big East tournament and now it looks like that's gone. Feels like a major part of my life is ending.
The ACC will be better for it, but tradition is my favorite thing about college sports and seeing a charter member of the Big East bail like this and not care is upsetting. It shows how little fans actually matter.
-- Get the X out. Vinateri was using his god powers on the Pats and then was like "Wait I'm a Colt now lol" and now you have it.
Don't worry. The ACC has already hinted they wouldn't mind moving their conference tournament to Madison Square Garden, in a nice slap to the face to the Big East!
Also, apparently, Villanova says they're willing to make the jump to I-A in football if it'll help the Big East survive.
I would care a hell of a lot more if this happened 10-15 years ago. College Basketball has turned into a watered down sport that's treated more as a halfway home for the NBA. everyone running to the big conferences for the money while forcing those minor league athletes to not accept anything is kind of hilarious. I'm sure Boeheim and Calhoun will each make tens of millions of dollars employing these volunteers while the school makes hundreds of millions in the next 5-10 years.
I am definitely going to miss the Big East tournament though. I'm totally biased towards the Big East but if you ask me there was nothing like having a dozen or more teams cram into Madison Square for four days of bliss. I don't care what the ACC does, I will never see it the same way.
Boeheim basically said that he's sad to leave the Big East, but he doesn't mind going to the ACC as it's going to be a good basketball conference. He was just kind of like "it is what it is and we just have to accept that and move on".
Here, here. Should force them to stay in school for three years. You can only improve in college anyway.
you can only improve in college? that's insane. players develop in the NBA just as much as they do in college. they just don't get all the chances that a college player with talent does because in the NBA everybody has talent. it's also easier to seem like you've improved in college when you're on another level athletically from the other guys.