Board 8 > oh those goofy cops always using excessive force [second-degree murder]

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KingButz
09/21/11 11:59:00 AM
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/kelly-thomas-begged-for-his-life-from-menacing-officer-da-says.html

"Kelly Thomas appeared to be acting in self-defense, in pain, in a state of panic. His numerous pleas of 'I'm sorry,' 'I can't breathe,' 'help,' 'Dad,' all to no avail," Rackauckas said. "Screams, loud screams, didn't help."

...Cicinelli allegedly Tased Thomas four times, kneed him in the head twice and hit him eight times with the Taser, Rackauckas said.


wtf

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Liquid Wind
09/21/11 12:02:00 PM
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lol american police

it's illegal to film police btw so if anyone got it on tape it's not admissable evidence LOL
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Haguile
09/21/11 12:05:00 PM
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From: Liquid Wind | Posted: 9/21/2011 3:02:30 PM | #002
lol american police

it's illegal to film police btw so if anyone got it on tape it's not admissable evidence LOL


Not sure about American law, but if I recall correctly illegally seized evidence by civilians is still admissible in court. Not sure if the same ruling applies here, but the logic behind it was that you would be punished for breaking laws in case of say, illegally searching someone's house(as a civilian) but your evidence would be admissible under certain circumstances.

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DeathChicken
09/21/11 12:07:00 PM
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I remember one of the big arguments lately was someone filming the police, the cops trying to *say* it was illegal to do so, but really it wasn't

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Leebo86
09/21/11 12:10:00 PM
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Illegal to film police?

That would have to be a state law, and maybe that's how it is in some states, but I'm pretty sure it's not like that in most states. There was just a thing recently in... Buffalo? I think, about it being legal to film police.

And yeah, if a civilian breaks the law and evidence comes from that, it's not inadmissible, unless they were acting as an agent of the police.

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metroid composite
09/21/11 12:17:00 PM
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If it's illegal to film the police, then how does the TV show "Cops" exist?

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Leebo86
09/21/11 12:18:00 PM
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metroid composite posted...
If it's illegal to film the police, then how does the TV show "Cops" exist?

I think the idea is "film without permission".

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demonfang178
09/21/11 12:20:00 PM
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For what practical reason is there for it to be illegal to film cops?
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WazzupGenius00
09/21/11 12:22:00 PM
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First Circuit Appeals Court actually just ruled a few weeks ago that filming cops in public, even while engaged in their duties, is protected by the first amendment

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CherryCokes
09/21/11 12:22:00 PM
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as i recall, it's not actually illegal if it is clear that you are videotaping

it's only illegal if its concealed

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WazzupGenius00
09/21/11 12:25:00 PM
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Yeah, if it's concealed that's different. Even videotaping a civilian is illegal in that case I'm pretty sure.

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KingButz
09/21/11 12:28:00 PM
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It's not that it's concealed or not, it's about consent. It is illegal to film anyone without their consent. Which of course includes concealed cameras.

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WazzupGenius00
09/21/11 12:30:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure that only applies in private. If you're in public, you don't need consent.

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PerfectChaosZ
09/21/11 12:31:00 PM
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No, it's illegal if they can see it. Cops walk over and say "STOP FILMING" and take the camera so they can continue their nefarious deeds. And if someone doesn't stop filming, they are arrested. The only practical use for this law is to stop police departments from being embarrassed that they have so many crooked cops.
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CherryCokes
09/21/11 12:42:00 PM
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man you guys really need to keep on the news

why are me and Wazzup the only ones who are up on things

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demonfang178
09/21/11 1:01:00 PM
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why are me and Wazzup the only ones who are up on things

Because I am too busy being fascinated by China. 2005-10 were not kind to them at all.
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