Board 8 > Grand Moff Tarkin > Palpatine

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RevolverSaro
09/22/11 11:33:00 PM
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Now don't get me wrong, Palpatine was pretty incredibly, and is one of the few entertaining parts of the PT, but I always thought Tarkin was much more interesting.

Tarkin I always felt was a great character, expertly played by Peter Cushing. He represented realistic evil. The kind of evil you see in bureaucracies. The kind of evil you see in governments like Nazi German. Cold. Calculating. Nondiscriminating. And I love that.

Palpatine on the other hand comes off as fairy tale-ish. Not that that is a bad thing. I mean this is a series that is about Space Knights with laser swords using space magic. And I think Ian McDiarmid did a fantastic job portraying the character. But Palpatine seemed more one dimension by comparison

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RevolverSaro
09/22/11 11:36:00 PM
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Also, Tarkin had Vader on a short leash, and anyone would could do that is straight up bad ass.

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redrocket
09/22/11 11:37:00 PM
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Tarkin is indeed amazing.

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LeonhartFour
09/22/11 11:37:00 PM
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I don't think Tarkin intimidated or scared Vader or anything.

More like Vader had a respect for the authority of his position.

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BIGPUN9999
09/22/11 11:37:00 PM
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is this EU bull ****?

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redrocket
09/22/11 11:38:00 PM
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BIGPUN9999 posted...
is this EU bull ****?

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*cries*

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RevolverSaro
09/22/11 11:40:00 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
I don't think Tarkin intimidated or scared Vader or anything.

More like Vader had a respect for the authority of his position.


Vader doesn't strike me as the type of person who'd take crap from anyone, regardless of position. But that said, he took commands from Tarkin like a kid takes candy from a child molestor.

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LeonhartFour
09/22/11 11:41:00 PM
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Vader strikes me as the type of person who respects a person with power.

Because he does.

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LeonhartFour
09/22/11 11:42:00 PM
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And he'll basically do whatever the Emperor tells him to, so if Palpatine told him to respect Tarkin, Vader would do it.

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TimJab
09/22/11 11:43:00 PM
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From: BIGPUN9999 | #005
is this EU bull ****?


i saw the star wars movies one time each when they were rereleased like 15 years ago and even i know who grand moff tarkin is

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Psycho_Kenshin
09/22/11 11:45:00 PM
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Hell yeah, Tarkin is boss! Peter Cushing is the awesomest actor, especially great in all those flicks as Dr. Frankenstein and Van Helsing.

I was just talking about how awesome Grand Moff Tarkin is on youtube the other day too.

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redrocket
09/22/11 11:47:00 PM
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redrocket
09/22/11 11:48:00 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
Vader strikes me as the type of person who respects a person with power.

Because he does.


When did Anakin ever show a respect for power in the PT? He humbled himself before Palpatine only because he thought it was the only way to save Padame. Then once he had the suit he continued to follow Palpatine because he really had no choice at that point.

Also, his plan to overthrow the Emperor with Luke really smacks of respect for power, lol.

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LeonhartFour
09/22/11 11:50:00 PM
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From: redrocket | #012
Also, his plan to overthrow the Emperor with Luke really smacks off respect for power, lol.


Except the Emperor basically told Vader to turn Luke to the Dark Side, and that was one way to tempt him to do it.

And Vader does go through a dilemma when he has to choose between obeying the Emperor and saving his son. If he didn't care about Palpatine at all, he'd have no problem just wiping him out to save his son, even for a selfish purpose.

What Anakin does before becoming Vader really has no bearing on this.

What reason does Vader have to do what Tarkin tells him to do? He has none because Tarkin can do nothing to him. He respects him because he chooses to.

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Anagram
09/22/11 11:58:00 PM
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Tarkin is great and all, but he's nothing to Palpatine.

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azazel22
09/23/11 12:03:00 AM
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From: BIGPUN9999 | #005
is this EU bull ****?


What the **** is this, pun?

You serious?

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BIGPUN9999
09/23/11 12:03:00 AM
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*googles*

OH

Frankenstein

okay

do they ever say his name in the movies? holy **** I seriously have never seen that name before

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TheRock1525
09/23/11 12:05:00 AM
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I'd like to point out that Anakin humbled himself to Palpatine long before the whole Padme thing. In AotC, they have a conversation where Anakin thanks him for all he's done and about the level of respect he has for him (or so I remember).

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DeathChicken
09/23/11 12:06:00 AM
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Tarkin? I remember Leia calls him by name in the very beginning

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redrocket
09/23/11 12:06:00 AM
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Off the top of my head, Leia at least addresses him as "Tarkin".

I'm not sure the title "Grand Moff" is ever spoken on screen, but it does appear in the credits.

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redrocket
09/23/11 12:07:00 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I'd like to point out that Anakin humbled himself to Palpatine long before the whole Padme thing. In AotC, they have a conversation where Anakin thanks him for all he's done and about the level of respect he has for him (or so I remember).

Anakin respected him as a father figure. That's not quite the same thing.

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LeonhartFour
09/23/11 12:07:00 AM
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Yeah, Leia calls him Tarkin when the character is first introduced.

The title "Grand Moff" isn't used in the movie though.

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TheRock1525
09/23/11 12:08:00 AM
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redrocket posted...
TheRock1525 posted...
I'd like to point out that Anakin humbled himself to Palpatine long before the whole Padme thing. In AotC, they have a conversation where Anakin thanks him for all he's done and about the level of respect he has for him (or so I remember).

Anakin respected him as a father figure. That's not quite the same thing.


Well, thanks to RotS, it seems he knew Tarkin for the next 20 years or whatever it is. It's very possible that a still young Darth Vader could be impressionable by Tarkin.

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BIGPUN9999
09/23/11 12:08:00 AM
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azazel22 posted...
From: BIGPUN9999 | #005
is this EU bull ****?
What the **** is this, pun?

You serious?


well jesus I'm sorry I don't know EVERY single little star wars thing

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