Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ KOS-MOS/Axl/Old Snake/Ridley vs. Kefka/Ryu/Revan/Big Boss/Liquid/Joanna

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Regaro_Ukiera
10/11/11 3:50:00 PM
#101:


you're the expert there

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dragon22391
10/11/11 3:52:00 PM
#102:


Metroids never striked me as particularly powerful >_>

Also, Axl is half-way lol. His ability is great, and he's got good agility and durability, but his output is probably a bit sub-Vile. Definitely nowhere near Zero.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/11/11 3:52:00 PM
#103:


From: JeffreyRaze | #098
Hmm... What about just in terms of offensive output?


His X8 weaponry is somewhat weaker than what X and Zero bring to the table. His Command Mission forms, however, are considerably more dangerous: they let him duplicate boss enemies for a powerful attack. For example, one of the attacks he can duplicate (and a middle-tier one IIRC) pretty much one-shots a full HP character when used against you. Gimme a second and I'll see if I can't find his forms.

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JeffreyRaze
10/11/11 3:54:00 PM
#104:


Alright, I'll wait.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/11/11 3:54:00 PM
#105:


From: dragon22391 | #102
Metroids never striked me as particularly powerful >_>

Also, Axl is half-way lol. His ability is great, and he's got good agility and durability, but his output is probably a bit sub-Vile. Definitely nowhere near Zero.


Funnily enough, it's his durability that is a little more suspect given Command Mission, of all things. He still has that massive 'damage reduction' that goes with every combat reploid (something like 93%, I think?), but he doesn't take hits as well, hence his Hyper Mode being stealth.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/11/11 4:01:00 PM
#106:


Two of the forms. Gathering vids is a pain because as far as I can tell nobody's made a vid of Axl's transformations in Command Mission. Check 4:20 and 6:10-20:

A bunch more still to come.

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dragon22391
10/11/11 4:18:00 PM
#107:


Yeah, I haven't played command mission, so don't know too much about that side of him.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/11/11 4:21:00 PM
#108:


Another form, this time timestamped so you can check it out more easily:

Still something like...four forms to cover? Five? Lots of variety, as you can see.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/11/11 4:29:00 PM
#109:




Mazinger-style punch barrages. Damage looks puny, but consider this scales with Axl and this is an early boss and it's much better than it looks given those numbers. Three forms remaining, though I expect at least the tidal wave and the mega shock will have been impressive at a minimum.

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-FFDragon-
10/11/11 4:36:00 PM
#110:


It honestly doesn't matter that the clones are Bub durability or could take 10 minutes to make it back.

So long as they can keep coming back they are going to wreck shop, especially the first time when no one is expecting it. Main Axl as well, especially since he DOESN'T have Bub durability and has a hyper mode to exploit.

Revan and Kefka are good, almost good enough to make this a fight, but they can't keep it up long enough to outstall the Axls. Liquid and Ridley is a push, I'd take Old Snake over Big Boss, and the Axls can sweep the rest from the skies or with Hyper mode.

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Drakeryn
10/11/11 4:37:00 PM
#111:


(clones don't have Hyper Mode)


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DeathChicken
10/11/11 4:40:00 PM
#112:


That and the Axls can only come back for as long as Ridley and Snake are alive. Once they're gone, Axl stays dead. And Ridley is going to die in a real damn hurry, since he's the biggest target and there are like six guys to his one

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-FFDragon-
10/11/11 4:40:00 PM
#113:


I know they don't.

the skies is referring to the clones

hyper mode is referring to the main

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DeathChicken
10/11/11 4:42:00 PM
#114:


Plus, any war of attrition goes to me, since Big Boss and Revan have heals, and none of Ridley, Axl or Snake have any

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JeffreyRaze
10/11/11 4:43:00 PM
#115:


Alright. I think I'm sold.

Team Axl, because the lack of durability on the flying, reviving Axl clones doesn't matter. All they need to do is revive, shoot, and pow. Reploids are fantastically powerful/durable, and simply being in a MMX game puts you up there. Axl's attacks will murder the hell out of people, and they're widespread enough to be very, very hard to dodge. That being the case, it'd be hard to attack them as they fly about launching attacks when they can, and even if it wasn't they can put the enemy down.

As for Ridley vs Hind, I have pretty high respect for the metroid series when it comes down to it, and Ridley's gone toe to toe with a huntership before and won effortlessly. His durability is outstanding, and being a rival of Samus puts his damage up there as well. He'll take a load of damage from the missiles to be sure, but he can last more than long enough to bring the chopper down.

KOS-MOS doesn't really need to do anything, but if anything I'd see her taking an artillery role and trying to bombard the enemy from long range. Big boss probably just kills her shortly after he finds her.

And Snake. He has stealth and a railgun. That's a pretty amazing combo right there, and he'll pick off anyone on the opposing team trying to use stealth of their own.

Really though, it boils down to me having decent respect for Axl, and that being enough given the circumstances.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/11/11 4:52:00 PM
#116:


This is sort of unnecessary now, but the final three forms so everybody gets to know them a little better:



Rolling Assault. Probably the least impressive of all the transformations, and the first you get.




An early bonus boss. Look at that missile massacre.




Nine Fragments in action. Even with massive amounts of cheese (the uploader comments shed some light on how many tricks and powerful equips he's using), the Nine Tails form's chief attack still hits super hard. As he should, given he's a bonus boss.

That should just about cover all the forms. As you can see Axl has access to a very wide variety of attacks, some of them really nasty AoEs, when using his Command Mission forms. Gotta love having access to tidal waves, missile barrages, nasty flames, and an extra-powerful bonus boss' trick.

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