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DeathChicken
02/11/12 9:13:00 AM
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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 9:19:00 AM
#52:


From: DeathChicken | #051


Jesus Christ.

I know John Cena has pulled this "I hate Randy Orton for reals" thing when they feuded before, but I mean most of this sounds like ADR legit feels that way.

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 9:22:00 AM
#53:


From: TimJab | #045
so what's up with that completely random x-division jobber match on ppv?


It's for #1 contendership.

Which scares me in a way if you stick to basic face-heel philosophy, since Aries vs. Sorensen is a dead feud that's been done, which leaves Shelley vs. Zema Ion as the logical fresh new matchup for next month.

Now don't get me wrong, I think those two would do great work together both on the mic and in the ring, I just selfishly don't want Aries to drop the title until after he breaks the record for longest reign (which would just mean passing the next PPV with the title).

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SmartMuffin
02/11/12 9:30:00 AM
#54:


I feel like Aries is getting enough crowd support these days that they don't necessarily need basic face-heel philosophy...

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 9:32:00 AM
#55:


I did enjoy the Aries/Ion dueling 450s in the four-way at Genesis.

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 9:43:00 AM
#56:


From: Rad Link 5 | #052
Jesus Christ.

I know John Cena has pulled this "I hate Randy Orton for reals" thing when they feuded before, but I mean most of this sounds like ADR legit feels that way.


Well you have to imagine that Miz got a LOT of backlash over the years for not being a "real athlete" and just parlaying his reality TV stardom into a wrestling career.

And then ADR comes along when Miz is already established and just sees a guy at the top who in his mind doesn't deserve it and completely missed out on the years of Miz paying his dues.

ADR comes from a rich lucha heritage and is a legit MMA fighter. He's probably got a lot of that old school mindset in him that most people are over by now that just doesn't like Miz because he's not legitimately threatening and probably would lose a real fight to most men in the locker room. Kinda like how Batista felt about him. <_<

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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 9:50:00 AM
#57:


Eh. Maybe.

Probably the most painful part of watching The Miz not catch R-Truth, aside from seeing R-Truth land so hard on the floor of course, was immediately knowing that it would set him back about two and a half years with the locker room.

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 9:58:00 AM
#58:


August 2009 Miz was still just fresh off of a feud with John Cena so that's a hit he can afford to take. <_<

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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 10:03:00 AM
#59:


Damn time flies.

Fine, five years.

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SmartMuffin
02/11/12 10:04:00 AM
#60:


JBL also a well-known Miz hater.

Great minds, etc.

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PrivateBiscuit1
02/11/12 10:05:00 AM
#61:


And we're going to laugh about how they actually let Miz main event Wrestlemania when he's jobbing to the likes of Trent Baretta!

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SythaWarrior
02/11/12 10:06:00 AM
#62:


Everything I've heard or listened to about ADR has been amazing. I just wish WWE could make me care about him. Slower build up would've definitely been nicer for him.

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 10:07:00 AM
#63:


From: Rad Link 5 | #059
Damn time flies.

Fine, five years.


In this scenario he's still just 8 months away from being a serious challenger for the ECW Title! <_<

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SmartMuffin
02/11/12 10:08:00 AM
#64:


I'm about 95% sure that ADR and Rey Mysterio are going to come back on the same night so ADR can beat him and then we can all pretend that's like a really big and significant accomplishment that vaults him back into ME status.

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edwardsdv
02/11/12 10:08:00 AM
#65:


From: JaKyL25 | #058
August 2009 Miz was still just fresh off of a feud with John Cena so that's a hit he can afford to take. <_<


You mean feud where he didnt take a single match.

ANyway hes too big to be set too far back now. I mean they HATE Ryder and until recently he was still on TV every week because he moves merch

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SythaWarrior
02/11/12 10:11:00 AM
#66:


Miz will be jobbing to uppermidcarders for a while. I fully expect him to feud with Kofi/Gabriel and whichever one of Rhodes/Ziggler/Barrett/Swagger turns first. (Hopefully Swagger.)

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 10:11:00 AM
#67:


From: SmartMuffin | #064
I'm about 95% sure that ADR and Rey Mysterio are going to come back on the same night so ADR can beat him and then we can all pretend that's like a really big and significant accomplishment that vaults him back into ME status.


Beating Rey clean is like ADR's glass floor, whenever he's on the way down the ladder, a win over Rey sends him back in the right direction!

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 10:15:00 AM
#68:


From: SythaWarrior | #066
I fully expect him to feud with Kofi/Gabriel


There's kind of a big gap between those two right now!

Although yeah, a month ago there wasn't.

EDIT: I do however want to see a Heel Miz vs. Heel Jericho promo where they both come out in suits and do that slow, deliberate, promo style on each other.

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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 10:16:00 AM
#69:


From: JaKyL25 | #063
In this scenario he's still just 8 months away from being a serious challenger for the ECW Title! <_<


I was talking about where he was as far as respect in the locker room, so yes, this is where I was aiming for.

Whenever I hear ADR off of television, I think about how huge he could be if he was allowed to be himself on screen. This "destiny" gimmick isn't working for him.

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SmartMuffin
02/11/12 10:19:00 AM
#70:


EDIT: I do however want to see a Heel Miz vs. Heel Jericho promo where they both come out in suits and do that slow, deliberate, promo style on each other.

Uh, I'm pretty sure the end result of this promo would be that Miz would have to invent an entirely new character because Jericho would expose him so bad that nobody would ever take him seriously ever again...

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Bidoof
02/11/12 10:25:00 AM
#71:


SmartMuffin posted...
Uh, I'm pretty sure the end result of this promo would be that Miz would have to invent an entirely new character because Jericho would expose him so bad that nobody would ever take him seriously ever again...

I agree with this. I think being in the Cena/Rock dynamic during 'Mania last year did expose Miz pretty bad and it is part of the reason he hasn't been able to recover.
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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 10:35:00 AM
#72:


Whaaaaaat?



All time great moment!

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 10:40:00 AM
#73:


Recover? Elimination Chamber will be his fourth consecutive PPV main event! <___<

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Bidoof
02/11/12 10:42:00 AM
#74:


JaKyL25 posted...
Recover? Elimination Chamber will be his fourth consecutive PPV main event! <___<

So what? He has been losing constantly.
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JaKyL25
02/11/12 10:44:00 AM
#75:


Just because he hasn't won a single match since qualifying for the TLC main event (house shows included) doesn't mean anything! <_<;

I have faith in THE MIZ to re-find his fire and desire to be the best! Maybe this setback was what he needed to re-awaken the 2010 Miz.

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voltch
02/11/12 10:45:00 AM
#76:


Dolph Ziggler lost his way to a championship!

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Bidoof
02/11/12 10:46:00 AM
#77:


JaKyL25 posted...
Just because he hasn't won a single match since qualifying for the TLC main event (house shows included) doesn't mean anything! <_<;

I have faith in THE MIZ to re-find his fire and desire to be the best! Maybe this setback was what he needed to re-awaken the 2010 Miz.


Was that "fire and desire to be the best" what he was running towards instead of catching Truth? >.>
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edwardsdv
02/11/12 10:47:00 AM
#78:


How soon you forget, they fed the Miz an all of his momentum to the greater cause of getting Alex Riley over... who is now on Superstars

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 10:47:00 AM
#79:


From: Bidoof | #077
Was that "fire and desire to be the best" what he was running towards instead of catching Truth? >.>


That's the setback I was referring to!

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Viktor Vaughn
02/11/12 10:48:00 AM
#80:


apparently kevin steen's son's favorite wrestlers are akira tozawa and john cena

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 10:48:00 AM
#81:


From: edwardsdv | #078
How soon you forget, they fed the Miz an all of his momentum to the greater cause of getting Alex Riley over... who is now on Superstars


Hey, for what it's worth, Alex Riley is still pretty damn over for a Superstars/NXT guy.

All the house show reports recently say stuff like "Wow I did not expect Alex Riley to be so over."

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Bidoof
02/11/12 10:49:00 AM
#82:


Oh! I thought you were referring to his other setback of being a jobber to the stars!
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voltch
02/11/12 10:52:00 AM
#83:


winning doesn't mean anything if not done right though.

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Bidoof
02/11/12 10:54:00 AM
#84:


voltch posted...
winning doesn't mean anything if not done right though.

Yeah, just look at Miz's world title reign. <.<
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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 10:56:00 AM
#85:


From: edwardsdv | #078
How soon you forget, they fed the Miz an all of his momentum to the greater cause of getting Alex Riley over... who is now on Superstars


I think A-Ry stepped on someone's toes. He was way too over to just disappear onto Superstars for any rational reason.

But hey, at least he didn't get a farting gimmick.

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edwardsdv
02/11/12 10:58:00 AM
#86:


Well he sandbagged swagger. Im just surprised they favor Swagger that heavily i guess!

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 11:00:00 AM
#87:


Just started SmackDown, and whoa @ them actually removing Undertaker from the opening entirely.

I mean, yeah, he hasn't wrestled on SmackDown since October 2010 but that hasn't stopped them yet! <_<

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voltch
02/11/12 11:01:00 AM
#88:


X-Pac keeps winning in my watchthrough, this is getting so stupid.

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voltch
02/11/12 11:01:00 AM
#89:


From: JaKyL25 | #087
Just started SmackDown, and whoa @ them actually removing Undertaker from the opening entirely.

I mean, yeah, he hasn't wrestled on SmackDown since October 2010 but that hasn't stopped them yet! <_<


Taker must be creating his own brand.

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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 11:07:00 AM
#90:


He's not on the Smackdown opening anymore? This is the first week I didn't actually watch the opening for any changes. Weird timing.

From: voltch | #088
X-Pac keeps winning in my watchthrough, this is getting so stupid.




X-uh-PAWWWWWK
X-PAWK!


You, my friend, are learning what X-Pac Heat is.

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Viktor Vaughn
02/11/12 11:09:00 AM
#91:


From: edwardsdv | #086
Well he sandbagged swagger. Im just surprised they favor Swagger that heavily i guess!


well, Swagger has mostly proven to be reliable and a good hand

and riley

hasn't

so yeah

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Bidoof
02/11/12 11:10:00 AM
#92:


voltch posted...
X-Pac keeps winning in my watchthrough, this is getting so stupid.

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 11:11:00 AM
#93:


From: Rad Link 5 | #090
He's not on the Smackdown opening anymore? This is the first week I didn't actually watch the opening for any changes. Weird timing.


Yeah, they added some more Daniel Bryan celebrating to the mix, and the RKO now gets the song-ending glass-shattering finish instead of the Tombstone.

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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 11:12:00 AM
#94:


Who could forget the classic chant battles of "LET'S GO X-PAC!" "X-PAC SUCKS!"?

From: JaKyL25 | #093
they added some more Daniel Bryan celebrating to the mix


Going to find this right now.

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 11:15:00 AM
#95:


Oh and also THE FUNKASAURUS

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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 11:18:00 AM
#96:


As soon as I saw the Funkasaurus, I remembered

He didn't appear on either show again.

Are they just keeping him off TV until they have something him to do so that people don't get sick of him?

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voltch
02/11/12 11:19:00 AM
#97:


road dogg and x pac.. **** that was the good days of wrestling

Top rated youtube comment.

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Rad Link 5
02/11/12 11:23:00 AM
#98:


Well that's what you get for reading YouTube comments.

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JaKyL25
02/11/12 11:25:00 AM
#99:


From: Rad Link 5 | #096
As soon as I saw the Funkasaurus, I remembered

He didn't appear on either show again.

Are they just keeping him off TV until they have something him to do so that people don't get sick of him?




Someone said that only one of his dancers has been around the last couple weeks at house shows/dark matches. Maybe they don't want to do his entrance on TV without the full accompaniment?

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voltch
02/11/12 11:25:00 AM
#100:


From these watchthroughs I can conclude this though.

Early Jericho was nawt so hot. Benoit seemed to pickup the "wwf" style faster heck it shows with him appearing in the title scene on PPVs!

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