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Tom Bombadil
02/11/12 11:06:00 AM
#201:


From: Silverliner182V | Posted: 2/11/2012 1:05:47 PM | #199
There's been town janitors before.


....why

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htaeD
02/11/12 11:06:00 AM
#202:


whoa whoa whoa

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Suika?

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Achromatic
02/11/12 11:06:00 AM
#203:


Also I am not BP. I am untargetable by killing actions.

That is literally how it works.

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Raka_Putra
02/11/12 11:07:00 AM
#204:


From: htaeD | #192
hey Raka, we are massing today btw


Oh, right, mass claiming?

Uhh...I'm not sure about this (as some people have said that this role shouldn't come out, but...).

I am Eirin Yagokoro, TOWN doctor. As the pharmacist, I sell medicines to help everyone.

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:07:00 AM
#205:


death: suika is the only one who fits the bolded N2 message

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Tom Bombadil
02/11/12 11:07:00 AM
#206:


I asked about mass and nobody answered so I figured I was good.

Satori, TOWN Mind Reader. I can read people's minds and use their partner's cards on them, hence the double vote. I can also target somebody at night and the next day I can gametalk with them out of topic. Targetted Dante N1, thanks for that Chris.

breadcrumbed it in my first post with the "keep my eye open" line

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Dark_Spiral
02/11/12 11:08:00 AM
#207:


Raka, saves.
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Tom Bombadil
02/11/12 11:08:00 AM
#208:


oh okay SUPER BP unlimited dayvig that is much more believable as a town role

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Achromatic
02/11/12 11:09:00 AM
#209:


I am HGR's favorite character what can I say.

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Raka_Putra
02/11/12 11:09:00 AM
#210:


N1: Chris, because I was most sure about him being town.
N2: Nobody could act, so yeah. I would've saved Chris again though.

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Drakeryn
02/11/12 11:09:00 AM
#211:


I keep forgetting that Vaga is playing this game. He's made plenty of posts but for some reason I have zero net impression of him and nobody else seems to notice he's in this game either and it's been bothering me.

Re: the Chris show - I am inclined to agree with Tom in this regard. Have trouble buying infinite shot vig that is untargetable by kills but I don't know that we can pursue it right now. We are running a precarious numbers game here.

#194 | Tom Bombadil | Posted 2/11/2012 1:04:07 PM | message detail | quote
You are totally SK, but you're right that we can't afford your lynch right now, so that's all the pressing I plan to do on that point.

I implore whoever lives to endgame, though, to not let Chris run the game again.



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htaeD
02/11/12 11:10:00 AM
#212:


Draks favorite character > HGRs favorite character

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Achromatic
02/11/12 11:11:00 AM
#213:


You guys are so mean.

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jdizzy156
02/11/12 11:11:00 AM
#214:


Silverliner182V posted...
well, its not just the flavor. dizzy was pretty horrible anyways.

Silver what have I done that's horrible?

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Tom Bombadil
02/11/12 11:11:00 AM
#215:


my favorite character is a nilla claim :\

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Achromatic
02/11/12 11:13:00 AM
#216:


Seriously aside from my awesome role (HGR game) what have I done that is the least bit scummy.

I've been having a blast =(

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Drakeryn
02/11/12 11:13:00 AM
#217:


Also Marisa godfather and Eirin being claimed as town I have no idea what to think of the flavor any more. Dammit.

I still think I'm close to the truth and my theory just needs some adjustment that I'm not insightful enough to grasp but man this is like the third time.


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Tom Bombadil
02/11/12 11:14:00 AM
#218:


Marisa makes sense. She's a PC but she also causes plenty of trouble on her own.

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htaeD
02/11/12 11:15:00 AM
#219:


oh well Raka, you and Spiral can make for a nice team-up

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:16:00 AM
#220:


Your behavior with dante/plum, really. It's either inexperience or you being scummy, and both are possibilities.

btw, why did you flavor hint on D1 with "I'm watching you guys" if you're actually vanilla? Did you decide on your act to draw a kill from the beginning?

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Raka_Putra
02/11/12 11:16:00 AM
#221:


Aya and Eirin? I don't see how, granted though, I don't play a lot of Touhous.

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_Regaro_
02/11/12 11:17:00 AM
#222:


Lists... Everybody loves Lists...

Scum:
Kracko - Obvious scum, has been coasting on his "confirmable but not really" claim.
Owl - Looking back, I think his play yesterday was shifty as ****. Just reeked scumminess
Luis and/Or InsaneOne - I have the same impression of both of them right now, relatively speaking. That being "who"

Beyond that I don't have anything concrete, if I were to throw out names, Death, Silver, and maybe Fett? I'm not sure what to think of Drak or Dizzy at this point. Drak's claim is weird, but I haven't seen anything to make me care more for his lynch than I did yesterday.

So have a complimentary "list of people reg thinks are town which is basically the confirmed guys for my reference" <_<:
Articuno - Inventor, Chris backs him up.
Tom - He's our doublevoter. 'duh'. Somebody else can confirm his thing come tomorrow since Dante can't, I think.
Spiral - I see no reason to not buy the claim at this point.
Chris - Sure why not, even if he's SK he's killing scum for us which is good.
Boko - Tentatively, but with both Drak claiming a Kogasa scan and Walrus (Flipped scum) claiming a scan on him, I'm inclined to think that he's town

Also I don't think I care to lynch Raka right now because Doc Claim and we kind of want those alive. He'll resolve himself later, I think.

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jdizzy156
02/11/12 11:20:00 AM
#223:


Don't we have a prosty out there too?

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Tom Bombadil
02/11/12 11:21:00 AM
#224:


anyway they finally got around to rescheduling the thing I am supposed to be doing today so I guess I have to leave now until tonightish

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:21:00 AM
#225:


Or any other role that can "visit" you, yes. So probably luis? He's one of the last unclaimed.

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:37:00 AM
#226:


anyways here's a handy list:

1. _Regaro_ - Rumia, VANILLA
2. Achromatic - Reimu, SERIAL KILLER
3. Dark_Spiral - Aya, REPORTER
4. Drakeryn - Patchy, FLAVOR COP
5. Fett0001 - Sunny Milk, MILLER
6. htaeD - Mystia, VANILLA
7. jdizzy156 - Sakuya, VANILLA
8. Luis_Sera89
9. KingKracko - Lily White, HERALD
10. MajinZidane - Kogasa, ???
11. Mr_Vaga
12. Not_an_Owl - Merlin, VANILLA
13. Raka_Putra - Eirin, DOCTOR
14. Silverliner182V - Cirno, VANILLA
15. Tom Bombadil - Satori, ANON VOTER

So either boko, vaga, or luis. one of them is a prostitute and visited me N1.

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Achromatic
02/11/12 11:37:00 AM
#227:


##VOTE: Silver

Silver has said several times he would be a good lynch/shot to narrow things down, but this exchange:

From: Achromatic | #152
Oh Silver do you know what I have DISCOVERED my friend.

I think I brought my ace game to this game. I have been very clever this game in finding out who is town and who is scum and I've got to say I like you for scum right now.

What oh what should I do about it? What would you do, my good friend?


From: Silverliner182V | #153
you can lynch me and feel like an idiot when i flip town


He calls me an idiot for thinking to lynch him.

Scum Silver's frustration is showing.

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Raka_Putra
02/11/12 11:42:00 AM
#228:


2. Achromatic - Reimu, SERIAL KILLER
...not dayvig?

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Achromatic
02/11/12 11:43:00 AM
#229:


Silver is being cute.

I am Shrine Maiden of Paradise, to be exact.

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:44:00 AM
#230:


either an SK or a unlimited BP dayvig. I just said SK to keep it shorter and nicer

anyways, I won't oppose being lynched today, but I want everyone to claim beforehand so I can say one final thing.

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jdizzy156
02/11/12 11:45:00 AM
#231:


WalrusJump posted...
From: WalrusJump | #462
Silver you like a jdizzy lynch? I like a jdizzy lynch.

##Unvote: Death
##Vote: jdizzy

His case against me is because he thought i made a phantom scumslip. I accused Articuno of feigning reasons to vote for me, but that's worse.


This is the only thing that worries me about a silver lynch. Walrus and him were hell buddying up to each other.

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jdizzy156
02/11/12 11:45:00 AM
#232:


Silver what do you feel about spiral?

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:48:00 AM
#233:


I think his role is very questionable. Either him or raka are scum. A watcher/tracker AND doctor is a very powerful town combination. A scum Aya makes sense, but not meta-wise. Meta-wise, raka is scum because Eirin orchestrated imperishable night.

I say town for now, but eventually his claim will backfire if he's truly scum.

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Raka_Putra
02/11/12 11:49:00 AM
#234:


"Gentlemen, it has been an honor playing with you" or something to that extent?

Regardless, if you say you won't oppose being lynched (it doesn't sound scummy, since scum would like to avoid being lynched; on the other hand, shouldn't we try to find scum? >_>) and combined with the fact that I've suspect you since D1.

##VOTE: Silver

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Mr_Vaga
02/11/12 11:54:00 AM
#235:


Just got caught up...

If possible I'd like to sametime claim with those left. Though given that it's me, Luis, and Boko (i think that's all)...that might be a little hard to arrange. Luis has seemed okay but nothing a whole lot has stood out, and Walrus throwing out that Boko is not dangerous or whatever has me wary of him, so I would very much prefer to claim when they do.

10 Vanillas and a Miller seems like a bit much. I could see a potentially weaker town if Chris is in fact Town Invincible at Night Unlimited Dayvig but it's more likely there's liars in that bunch. Owl is one of the people I like the least coming into this day anyway. Rereading was a bit...hindered due to Topic 2 disappearing, but from what I did read I didn't like his play. Casts suspicion at Arti and XIII but doesn't actually act on it at all. Then D2 he mainly points out dizzy and Scept. Also the "people complain to me about not voting for who I say is suspicious but now I'm doing it and people don't like me" thing rings to the tune of changing his playstyle so that people aren't as suspicious of him.

Didn't see the Spiral - Aya claim coming.It should be easy to confirm though. Spiral, you did say you can choose whatever you want to be said appear in the opening flavor, right?

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jdizzy156
02/11/12 11:55:00 AM
#236:


But you believed spiral over me when we both claimed watchers?

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:56:00 AM
#237:


I thought a watcher that functioned in the way you described was a lie, and only mafia would lie like that.

I wasn't thinking the possibility of you being vanilla trying to draw a kill.

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Mr_Vaga
02/11/12 11:56:00 AM
#238:


From: Silverliner182V | #233
I think his role is very questionable. Either him or raka are scum. A watcher/tracker AND doctor is a very powerful town combination. A scum Aya makes sense, but not meta-wise. Meta-wise, raka is scum because Eirin orchestrated imperishable night.

I say town for now, but eventually his claim will backfire if he's truly scum.


How do you feel about the combo of watcher/tracker + flavor cop?

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:58:00 AM
#239:


How do you feel about the combo of watcher/tracker + flavor cop?

also suspicious but I think drak has proven himself for now. Or to be exact, walrus has proven him.

But it's not as ridiculous as doc + watcher/tracker. Mafia has to kill the doc, and then the watcher can get a scum lynched.

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Achromatic
02/11/12 11:59:00 AM
#240:


From: Silverliner182V | #239
How do you feel about the combo of watcher/tracker + flavor cop?

also suspicious but I think drak has proven himself for now. Or to be exact, walrus has proven him.

But it's not as ridiculous as doc + watcher/tracker. Mafia has to kill the doc, and then the watcher can get a scum lynched.


You realize there have been ... a lot of games with this combo right.

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 11:59:00 AM
#241:


But it's also semi-confirmed due to the fact that mafia had/has an assassin. But chris is effectively bulletproof. If there wasn't a BP then I would think raka is confirmed town.

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 12:00:00 PM
#242:


chris: I would like to point out that HGR enjoys games where mafia has a massive advantage, so watcher/tracker + doc doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Achromatic
02/11/12 12:01:00 PM
#243:


Raka is confirmed town then as I am not BP!

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Dark_Spiral
02/11/12 12:03:00 PM
#244:


Didn't see the Spiral - Aya claim coming.It should be easy to confirm though. Spiral, you did say you can choose whatever you want to be said appear in the opening flavor, right?

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Silverliner182V
02/11/12 12:05:00 PM
#245:


anyways i'm leaving for an hour or two. when I get back I fully expect luis and vaga to have claimed.

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Achromatic
02/11/12 12:10:00 PM
#246:


So funny thing, if I am right about all my deductions



1. _Regaro_
6. htaeD
8. Luis_Sera89
11. Mr_Vaga
12. Not_an_Owl
14. Silverliner182V

These are the people we can lynch who I don't think are town.

If all six of these are scum that would be hilarious.

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Raka_Putra
02/11/12 12:23:00 PM
#247:


That would certainly improve your reputation even more.

And I'm going to get some Z's for now, seeing there are only a couple people here anyway. Will be back in...anywhere between 3-6 hours.

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Not_an_Owl
02/11/12 12:29:00 PM
#248:


lol modkills.

Anyway, all the information that's come out today about Chris' role makes me very leery of him. Can't be killed at night? Check. A kill every day? Check. Every motivation to scumhunt while not having any inside information about who scum actually are to complicate things? Check check check. It adds up to equal serial killer to me. I'd like to remind ya'lls that leashing a serial killer, especially when you think you're close to do or die, does not work and is never a good idea. SKs are anti-town and should be lynched as such.

Watcher/Doc combo strikes me as being stupid powerful, but I don't see much reason to doubt it right now (especially given Walrus' claim and then flip).

And since six man scum lists are a thing right now, in no particular order:

1. _Regaro_
2. Achromatic
4. Drakeryn
8. Luis_Sera89
9. KingKracko
14. Silverliner182V

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Achromatic
02/11/12 12:30:00 PM
#249:


Aww, is the little scum Owl starting to feel nervous?

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Not_an_Owl
02/11/12 12:35:00 PM
#250:


From: Achromatic | #249
Aww, is the little scum Owl starting to feel nervous?


No, the little town Owl wants to be sure we're clear that your role sounds less like anything town and more like a third party.

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