Board 8 > B8 Draws 001 - Draw yourself

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Eyes are the worst. I can never make them look right. When I was younger I was all into the anime/manga style and that's basically how I learned to draw things, and now I don't know how to draw eyes like a freaking normal person. No matter how I try to change them they still look like anime eyes to me. Sigh.

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I missed out on registering for 'Drawing 1' last semester at my school, and I'm gonna miss it next semester if I'm in England as well, which is disappointing but I'll get to take it eventually. It's probably the most challenging thing I've tried to take on recently, but damnit I'm gonna try!

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I can't do noses.

I think they're worse than eyes.

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ExThaNemesis posted...
Just practicing. I looked at a few DA tutorials for manga style art and have been practicing with construction lines but other than that I didn't really know where to start.

References are always helpful when starting out.
Like say, assemble yourself a collection of pictures of things you think might be difficult to draw, and then refer back to them while practicing.

But hey, I'm no expert, either. :P

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CrimsonOcean posted...
Eyes are the worst. I can never make them look right. When I was younger I was all into the anime/manga style and that's basically how I learned to draw things, and now I don't know how to draw eyes like a freaking normal person. No matter how I try to change them they still look like anime eyes to me. Sigh.

I have a reference pic for you.


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Ooooooh. And all this time I was drawing them without the skull. I feel like such a fool!

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Justin_Crossing posted...
I can't do noses.

I think they're worse than eyes.

Noses bugged me for a while, too.
But after looking at some different ways they're drawn in manga style, I've settled into the idea that noses are best represented with a sort of shading, and not much outlining, at least from the front.

That's just what I do.

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From: Ace_Killjoy | #054
References are always helpful when starting out.
Like say, assemble yourself a collection of pictures of things you think might be difficult to draw, and then refer back to them while practicing.

Like certain pictures of people, items, limbs?

I'm a little confused on the references thing. Do I try to mimic what the references look like?

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ExThaNemesis posted...
Like certain pictures of people, items, limbs?

I'm a little confused on the references thing. Do I try to mimic what the references look like?

More or less.
You can try mimicking the reference, or you can just use them for ideas of how things should look.
I have a number of references of people to help me figure out proportions (like, how long the arms are supposed to be, compared to the rest of the body), overall shape, poses, and other things. They've especially when dealing with the differences between male and female builds.

Basically, references help you get an idea of how things generally look. Plus they can help when you need to study details and such.

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But don't copy 100% from real life unless you want your drawings to look TOO realistic. Animanga art is all about stylizing the normal human body and designs.

Once you've understood the concept of the human body (really you should also draw other stuff other than humans like animals, plants, or buildings) you should look at concept/sketch art by already skilled artists just to get a bit of knowledge of "how do I make this line" or "what should I do to make it look cool"

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Also, don't just draw human heads. Even if you managed to make it look good, when the time comes for you to draw a full bodied person it'll come out awkward most of the time. There's also references online for drawing folds, cloth, or hair. Each session of drawing increases your skill a bit even if it's unnoticable at first, you can compare your newest drawing with one from a week or month ago. So practice makes perfect.

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Yeah I definitely agree with that. Might as well start drawing full body as soon as possible. Hands too, don't hide them. Putting it all out there on the table in each drawing just helps you improve. That way you can always see which part you need to work on most.

Like for me, it's size of legs relative to size of the rest of the body. For some reason the legs always end up smaller than I intend them to be, lol.

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Bump.

How long does everyone think we should keep this one going for? Weekly does seem like it would be a pretty decent schedule.

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i think you can fix your proportion problem by roughing out an underlying structure first, crim

this might be helpful for the eye placement


and for the body


it's not the best example, but everything i could find was pretty bad. the hips and shoulders for females are about the same width and the waist should be the mid point.


trying that out should make your drawings better a lot faster

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Hey cool, thanks fr0q :)

Weekly seems like a good idea. Otherwise people might get burnt out and not want to participate. I think the replies probably wont end up spanning a week, but that's alright.

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I agree. A week should give people time to come up with a decent amount of drawings.

On the subject of references again, I actually have a favorites folder with links to some different stuff. I'll post a couple.

This one has a bunch of different head angles. It looks kind of weird I think, due to the lines around the eyes, but it provides an idea of what different angles look like.


And here's one for eye angles:


Also, here's a cool hand reference:


At one point, I found a really cool hand and limb reference that showed how the muscles contributed to the build of different parts, but I can't find it. :/

Lastly, @ pyro:
When practicing drawing full-body characters, do you want to draw moderately fast, or slow and precise? Which is the best appoach?

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Anything is better if you do it slowly. Especially since I'm used to inking some drawings after drawing a sketch, I do stuff slowly. Unless I'm practicing. That's where I usually go fast since I don't need details for sketches.

In short, go at you own pace when practicing. Rather than fixing, redraw a new body if you messed up when practicing. Use frames and guide lines to make stuff easier until you can do stuff with little to no guidelines.

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pyro_bunta posted...
Anything is better if you do it slowly. Especially since I'm used to inking some drawings after drawing a sketch, I do stuff slowly. Unless I'm practicing. That's where I usually go fast since I don't need details for sketches.

In short, go at you own pace when practicing. Rather than fixing, redraw a new body if you messed up when practicing. Use frames and guide lines to make stuff easier until you can do stuff with little to no guidelines.

Ok. I'll take all the advice I can get.

I have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, so when I say slow, I mean it. I like the tip about drawing a new body, though. That would be less of an incentive to try fixing things over and over. But it could drive me nuts after a while.

Part of my issue is that I'm just afraid to commit to drawing the whole figure, so I often don't. And when I do, it's usually a front-on angle and rarely dynamic. -_-
I need to assemble my GUTS.

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If you can't do it now just keep drawing. Every session how I say it, "increases your experience" and your skill goes up even if a bit. Just got to be patient but while still putting a lot of effort into it.

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pyro_bunta posted...
If you can't do it now just keep drawing. Every session how I say it, "increases your experience" and your skill goes up even if a bit. Just got to be patient but while still putting a lot of effort into it.

Just like an RPG. o_O
Good advice. I just need to carve some spare time to do it when I'm not doing loads of calculus.

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Up!

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I drew mine, I just don't feel comfortable uploading it. I'll wait til next time, Gadget, next time....

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You should do it Mana!
We're all friends here :)

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Fiiiiiiiiiiine



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Hmm, I'm tempted to post mine too now. Although it kinda sucks.

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You should do it Raka!
We're all friends here :)

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Anyway, as far as the next subject goes, I'd say that some sort of character drawing is a safe bet.

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Lame sketch that I did in like 10 minutes, but whatever.



Lets hope next the topic has a better theme.

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^ Not bad! Looks like a comic book hero.

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what happened to your arm

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Oh, I fell to the pavement because I was chased by a...'friend' (I don't really fancy him, but he's, like, creepily obsessed with me). But it healed nicely. THEN I fell again while playing dodgeball and it won't heal correctly and turned into a keloid. After that, I got bitten by mosquitoes and the scratch marks became...something worse. Next, I tried to bandaged it but it only made them worse. So I went to a dermatologist to get it treated.
They are not bandaged and look better now (except for the keloid, which is permanent), but I don't feel comfortable drawing scars so yeah.

tl;dr Wounds

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oh, I see. I have a scar too. I just didn't draw it.

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MS Paint represent!



That took about three minutes. :P


That took over three hours!


And this I did just for fun.

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Aww yeah GenesisWarhol.

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Indeed. And now I retire until later. Goodnight!... morning.

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doodlez




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So much good stuff in this topic.

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Yeah, this turned out fantastic. Starting a new topic on Monday sound good, or think we should keep this one going a bit longer?

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Monday sounds fine. I may have one more tonight depending on how quickly I finish the drawing I owe fr0q. If I'm late I'll just post it in the next topic.

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This has turned out great :]
If it's not too much trouble, could we decide on the next topic sometime today? I'm gonna be taking care of some things on Monday and wont have internet access, so it'd be ideal if I could work on it then.

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Sure thing.
I'm good with pretty much anything that has been suggested so far.

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awful quality plus i didn't have an eraser, so i erased scratchmarks with paint... and well now you see what happened

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Pianist posted...
awful quality plus i didn't have an eraser, so i erased scratchmarks with paint... and well now you see what happened

We do? Where?

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Ainoxi posted...
Sure thing.
I'm good with pretty much anything that has been suggested so far.

I nominate: "People doing mundane things but with overblown manner."

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Sounds good to me.

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Alright, we'll go with that.
I'll get the new topic up tomorrow!

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Just a suggestion:
I think it would be a good idea to list the subjects we've drawn as the topics progress, and allow people to draw the previous subjects, like how some voting topics allow you to vote on previous items.
That would be good because it would allow people to draw something for a topic they missed, or if they took longer to get a drawing finished than they had initially thought.

Unless, of course, you were already planning to do that.

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Good idea.
And sort of self portraits. Have to make a psychological self portrait, here are a few rough sketches for it.




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