http://money.msn.com/credit-rating/red-states-credit-beats-the-blues-cardratings.aspx
I don't think this will surprise anyone
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EndOfDiscOne 02/27/12 7:28:00 AM #1: |
http://money.msn.com/credit-rating/red-states-credit-beats-the-blues-cardratings.aspx
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Achromatic 02/27/12 7:29:00 AM #2: |
Not sure if serious.
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EndOfDiscOne 02/27/12 7:56:00 AM #3: |
I am always serious.
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Mega Mana 02/27/12 8:03:00 AM #4: |
And yet, the blue states credit scores still remain higher even though they decreased more.
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PartOfYourWorld 02/27/12 8:16:00 AM #5: |
According to that article, the average credit score in the U.S. is around 750. That's pretty damn good - certainly better than I would have guessed.
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Leebo86 02/27/12 8:19:00 AM #6: |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #005 Does it say which scoring system that's based on? -- Connecticut Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StifledSilence 02/27/12 8:39:00 AM #7: |
I saw the topic title and burst out laughing.
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Red Shifter 02/27/12 8:43:00 AM #8: |
call me back when they do a study that includes how state governments are split
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hideto 02/27/12 8:43:00 AM #9: |
Members of the republican party have been pretty horrible with their spending: bridge to nowhere, Ted Stevens pork projects + bribes, etc. and that only going with a single state.
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EndOfDiscOne 02/27/12 8:46:00 AM #10: |
Red Shifter posted...
call me back when they do a study that includes how state governments are split michigan, which is in the bottom 10, is controlled by the republican party despite a bunch of people voting a black democrat into office The topic is more about ideologies. People who vote Democrat are more likely to have a sense of entitlement and want to live beyond their means, and expect the government to bail them out. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 02/27/12 8:48:00 AM #11: |
Only in Board 8 is a link to the Huffington Post gospel and a link to msn.com complete crap
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Red Shifter 02/27/12 8:50:00 AM #12: |
And in Michigan, there is a Republican governor. It's almost like there's people who voted for Obama and left the rest of the ballot blank because they don't believe in the Democratic party.
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Liquid Wiind 02/27/12 8:51:00 AM #13: |
The topic is more about ideologies. People who vote Democrat are more likely to have a sense of entitlement and want to live beyond their means, and expect the government to bail them out.
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StifledSilence 02/27/12 8:51:00 AM #14: |
EndOfDiscOne posted...
The topic is more about ideologies. People who vote Democrat are more likely to have a sense of entitlement and want to live beyond their means, and expect the government to bail them out. This description screams Republican to me. Democrats strike me more as people that don't require bailouts because they don't put themselves in ridiculous debt to begin with. -- "Just drown them in maple syrup. sticky maple syrup." - Taslion ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Red Shifter 02/27/12 8:55:00 AM #15: |
It was a Republican governor that put Michigan into debt. Then a Democratic governor that couldn't get a single thing through a Republican-controlled state legislature. Now we're back to having a Republican as governor, and our credit rating dropped.
Oh, and if Obama hadn't given a loan to the auto industry, Michigan probably would've been #1 on that list by a massive margin. Not that it's much better anyway. -- It's F-Zero. F-ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERO! http://img.imgcake.com/RedShifter/straitjacketdswordjpgem.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterplum 02/27/12 8:57:00 AM #16: |
I don't see what governments have anything to do with the average person
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AlecTrevelyan006 02/27/12 9:01:00 AM #17: |
Rich people usually have better credit ratings than poor people.
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masterplum 02/27/12 9:05:00 AM #18: |
From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #017 This is on a state by state basis though, with some poorer states still being republican -- yE frE me Kweku Ananse Papa me:http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/1508/masterplumgm3.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SlymDayspring 02/27/12 9:07:00 AM #19: |
looks to me like republicans are pretty bad at living within their means, too -- I'm "kind of a big deal". http://img.imgcake.com/cyclo/Cyclopngegpngre.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jukkie 02/27/12 9:09:00 AM #20: |
Add the "Bailout" to that graph and then see what it looks like.
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th3l3fty 02/27/12 9:11:00 AM #21: |
From: SlymDayspring | #019 mmmm, delicious lying with statistics -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Icehawk 02/27/12 9:13:00 AM #22: |
why are people so upset about this?
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SlymDayspring 02/27/12 9:13:00 AM #23: |
what about it is lying? it is clear that it is %, not total amount. my point with the graph was not "democrats spend less than republicans", it was that republicans do not live within their means either.
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EndOfDiscOne 02/27/12 9:15:00 AM #24: |
1. Five people are hardly representative of the general population and 2. It doesn't matter how much debt there is so much as how well it can be paid off.
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th3l3fty 02/27/12 9:17:00 AM #25: |
I agree that it supports your point
that doesn't change the fact that it's clearly designed to make the Republicans look far worse a normal person looking at that would read it as Obama increasing the debt the least of any President, when it's pretty clear that Clinton was lower (and probably Reagan; I don't feel like calculating it out) -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wiind 02/27/12 9:21:00 AM #26: |
and probably Reagan
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TheRock1525 02/27/12 9:23:00 AM #27: |
Red Shifter posted...
It was a Republican governor that put Michigan into debt. Then a Democratic governor that couldn't get a single thing through a Republican-controlled state legislature. Now we're back to having a Republican as governor, and our credit rating dropped. Oh, and if Obama hadn't given a loan to the auto industry, Michigan probably would've been #1 on that list by a massive margin. Not that it's much better anyway. It didn't help that the Democratic Governor said "Screw the auto industry, we're going to become the EDUCATION STATE!" Yeah, not a good plan. -- TheRock ~ Slow dramatic zoom-pan. Doesn't phase the hooded man. "You have issues." - MWC. Pot. Kettle. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dauntless Hunter 02/27/12 9:24:00 AM #28: |
From: EndOfDiscOne | #001 But the blue states have higher credit scores both now and 4 years ago, so I don't see how that's the case at all. -- SuperNiceDog may be the Guru Champion... But SuperBowlGiants are the NFL Champions! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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th3l3fty 02/27/12 9:25:00 AM #29: |
do I really have to calculate this out jeez
using 100% as a static value for the pre-Reagan debt: Bush 2: 527.77469% Obama: 399.5131665% Reagan: 189% Clinton: 165.7415% Bush 1: 158.95% average Democrat increase: 282.6273333% average Republican increase: 291.90823% conclusion: everyone spends at ridiculous rates -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wiind 02/27/12 9:27:00 AM #30: |
But the blue states have higher credit scores both now and 4 years ago, so I don't see how that's the case at all.
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Gwindor 02/27/12 9:34:00 AM #31: |
this whole article is advertising for the rating website that "sponsored" this research.
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SlymDayspring 02/27/12 9:36:00 AM #32: |
conclusion: everyone spends at ridiculous rates
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Gwindor 02/27/12 9:38:00 AM #33: |
Also, the credit ratings track best with income, so the conclusion one might be able to draw from these claims is that poorer people support the democrat party.
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EndOfDiscOne 02/27/12 9:42:00 AM #34: |
The fact that the blue states dropped more means they've. Been doing worse the past four years
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