Board 8 > Wait, is this actually true? (Harry Potter)

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ShadowHalo17 03/01/12 9:38:00 AM #1:	But that snake was so polite. -- *~Halo* Live, fight, survive, as a family. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:856071] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> But that snake was so polite. -- ~Halo Live, fight, survive, as a family.http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7469/batfamily.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Some_Character 03/01/12 9:41:00 AM #2:	That would be very dumb. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo. SuperNiceDog. Best friend. <cite>Some_Character posted [p:856072] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> That would be very dumb. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo.SuperNiceDog. Best friend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 03/01/12 9:42:00 AM #3:	What? I thought that was stated clearly in one of the books. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:856073] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> What? I thought that was stated clearly in one of the books. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AdmiralZephyr 03/01/12 9:44:00 AM #4:	This has been posted on here before, and someone pointed out that they were different species of snakes. -- darkx congratulates SuperNiceDog. Now go find Nice Dad and email Hungry Shark. <cite>AdmiralZephyr posted [p:856074] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> This has been posted on here before, and someone pointed out that they were different species of snakes. -- darkx congratulates SuperNiceDog. Now go find Nice Dad and email Hungry Shark. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 03/01/12 9:45:00 AM #5:	http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Nagini ■There was a rumour that Nagini was the snake Harry released from the zoo in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. This was proven false, as Nagini is some type of viper while the snake in the zoo was a boa constrictor. Furthermore, the snake was given a male voice in the film, while Nagini is female. I don't know why I jumped to the conclusion that it was the same snake in GoF. I guess I was only 14 back then. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:856075] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Nagini■There was a rumour that Nagini was the snake Harry released from the zoo in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. This was proven false, as Nagini is some type of viper while the snake in the zoo was a boa constrictor. Furthermore, the snake was given a male voice in the film, while Nagini is female. I don't know why I jumped to the conclusion that it was the same snake in GoF. I guess I was only 14 back then. -- http://img.imgcake.com/fitgirljpgta.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 9:46:00 AM #6:	It's been really really debunked. If that was what she intended, she should've actually done it. But they're definitely differennt species of snake and it says so clearly in the text of the books. -- Might find it later. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856076] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> It's been really really debunked. If that was what she intended, she should've actually done it. But they're definitely differennt species of snake and it says so clearly in the text of the books. -- Might find it later. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dauntless Hunter 03/01/12 9:54:00 AM #7:	In the book, the snake's plaque states "This specimen was bred in the zoo." -- SuperNiceDog may be the Guru Champion... But SuperBowlGiants are the NFL Champions! <cite>Dauntless Hunter posted [p:856077] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> In the book, the snake's plaque states "This specimen was bred in the zoo." -- SuperNiceDog may be the Guru Champion...But SuperBowlGiants are the NFL Champions! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/01/12 10:04:00 AM #8:	Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book. Or was she a last edition that Voldemort made after he returned? I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while. -- ~Halo Now you learn the mistake of challenging me. http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2734/hieis.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:856078] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book. Or was she a last edition that Voldemort made after he returned?I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while. -- ~Halo Now you learn the mistake of challenging me.http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2734/hieis.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 10:05:00 AM #9:	From: Dauntless Hunter \| #007 In the book, the snake's plaque states "This specimen was bred in the zoo." That doesn't necessarily rule it out from being Nagini. It's not stated anywhere that Voldemort knew Nagini from her birth. -- He may have met her in Albania. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856079] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: Dauntless Hunter \| #007In the book, the snake's plaque states "This specimen was bred in the zoo."That doesn't necessarily rule it out from being Nagini. It's not stated anywhere that Voldemort knew Nagini from her birth. -- He may have met her in Albania. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Some_Character 03/01/12 10:06:00 AM #10:	Not to mention that Voldemort's pride would never allow one of his prized Horcruxes to be captured and displayed for Muggle pleasure. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo. SuperNiceDog. Best friend. <cite>Some_Character posted [p:856080] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Not to mention that Voldemort's pride would never allow one of his prized Horcruxes to be captured and displayed for Muggle pleasure. -- SomeC - sheer explosives since meeting that crazy hobo.SuperNiceDog. Best friend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 03/01/12 10:06:00 AM #11:	From: ShadowHalo17 \| #008 Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book. I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while. Nope. He only made Nagani a horcrux because he thought he failed at making one when trying to kill James. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:856081] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: ShadowHalo17 \| #008Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book.I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while.Nope. He only made Nagani a horcrux because he thought he failed at making one when trying to kill James. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 10:09:00 AM #12:	From: ShadowHalo17 \| #008 Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book. Or was she a last edition that Voldemort made after he returned? I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while. No, he was going to make the Harry kill, the final Horcrux. He obviously didn't realise he inadvertantly had done. Nagini was made a Horcrux in 1994 (James and Lily died in 1981). -- Facts. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856082] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: ShadowHalo17 \| #008Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book. Or was she a last edition that Voldemort made after he returned?I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while.No, he was going to make the Harry kill, the final Horcrux. He obviously didn't realise he inadvertantly had done. Nagini was made a Horcrux in 1994 (James and Lily died in 1981). -- Facts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 03/01/12 10:12:00 AM #13:	What if this led to a plot twist where Nagini switches sides due to her debt to Harry? -- Now playing: Sakura Samurai, Final Fantasy V, Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code <cite>paperwarior posted [p:856083] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> What if this led to a plot twist where Nagini switches sides due to her debt to Harry? -- Now playing: Sakura Samurai, Final Fantasy V, Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 03/01/12 10:12:00 AM #14:	From: nintendogirl1 \| #012 From: ShadowHalo17 \| #008 Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book. Or was she a last edition that Voldemort made after he returned? I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while. No, he was going to make the Harry kill, the final Horcrux. He obviously didn't realise he inadvertantly had done. Nagini was made a Horcrux in 1994 (James and Lily died in 1981). Wouldn't Nagani have been made in 1995? If Halloween was the death day party, and taht was 1992, then that means that the end of Chamber would be 1993. Meaning the end of Goblet of Fire (when he would have finally been able to make a Horcrux again, since he finally existed again) would be 1995. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:856084] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: nintendogirl1 \| #012From: ShadowHalo17 \| #008Oh right thinking about it, Voldemort had his horcruxes all set up before his encounter with James and Lily, right? So Nagini should have already been a horcrux before the first book. Or was she a last edition that Voldemort made after he returned?I really need to read through the books again. It's been a while.No, he was going to make the Harry kill, the final Horcrux. He obviously didn't realise he inadvertantly had done. Nagini was made a Horcrux in 1994 (James and Lily died in 1981).Wouldn't Nagani have been made in 1995? If Halloween was the death day party, and taht was 1992, then that means that the end of Chamber would be 1993. Meaning the end of Goblet of Fire (when he would have finally been able to make a Horcrux again, since he finally existed again) would be 1995. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark Young Link 03/01/12 10:12:00 AM #15:	My mind was almost blown there. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/darkyounglinkshieldpngyg.png <cite>Dark Young Link posted [p:856085] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> My mind was almost blown there. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/darkyounglinkshieldpngyg.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cloud and Squall 03/01/12 10:14:00 AM #16:	No, because Voldemort made the horcrux over the summer, with help from Peter Pettigrew using the death of Bortha Jorkins. -- See You In Another Life, Brother. New York Giants - The Patriot Slayers <cite>Cloud and Squall posted [p:856086] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> No, because Voldemort made the horcrux over the summer, with help from Peter Pettigrew using the death of Bortha Jorkins. -- See You In Another Life, Brother.New York Giants - The Patriot Slayers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JaKyL25 03/01/12 10:16:00 AM #17:	Yeah, Nagini was made a Horcrux at the BEGINNING of Goblet of Fire, in Chapter 1 EDIT: Wait, Bertha Jorkins? I thought the nosy muggle gardener(?) was the death used to create that Horcrux. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg <cite>JaKyL25 posted [p:856087] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Yeah, Nagini was made a Horcrux at the BEGINNING of Goblet of Fire, in Chapter 1EDIT: Wait, Bertha Jorkins? I thought the nosy muggle gardener(?) was the death used to create that Horcrux. -- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero.http://bryandanielson.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/photo3.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EmDubyaSee 03/01/12 10:18:00 AM #19:	From: Cloud and Squall \| #016 No, because Voldemort made the horcrux over the summer, with help from Peter Pettigrew using the death of Bortha Jorkins. We are told that making a Horcrux is needs a very powerful bit of magic to do though. How did Voldemort do it before he revived? Hell, to go farther if you want to say Wormtail did it..... HOW DID WORMTAIL DO IT PERIOD? -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:856089] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: Cloud and Squall \| #016No, because Voldemort made the horcrux over the summer, with help from Peter Pettigrew using the death of Bortha Jorkins.We are told that making a Horcrux is needs a very powerful bit of magic to do though. How did Voldemort do it before he revived? Hell, to go farther if you want to say Wormtail did it..... HOW DID WORMTAIL DO IT PERIOD? -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mik_Pick 03/01/12 10:19:00 AM #20:	She didn't say that. Nagini and the snake in the zoo are two different breeds. -- XBL: Mik Pick PSN: Mik2Pick <cite>Mik_Pick posted [p:856090] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> She didn't say that.Nagini and the snake in the zoo are two different breeds. -- XBL: Mik PickPSN: Mik2Pick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 10:19:00 AM #21:	From: EmDubyaSee \| #014 Wouldn't Nagani have been made in 1995? If Halloween was the death day party, and taht was 1992, then that means that the end of Chamber would be 1993. Meaning the end of Goblet of Fire (when he would have finally been able to make a Horcrux again, since he finally existed again) would be 1995. He didn't need a body to make a Horcrux, he used Bertha Jorkins' death in Albania after he discovered the Triwizards Tournament would be occurring. We know that he was able to use Avada Kedavra in whatever form he was in at the time as well. No-one knows how the f* it works. -- (A wizard did it.) <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856091] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: EmDubyaSee \| #014Wouldn't Nagani have been made in 1995? If Halloween was the death day party, and taht was 1992, then that means that the end of Chamber would be 1993. Meaning the end of Goblet of Fire (when he would have finally been able to make a Horcrux again, since he finally existed again) would be 1995.He didn't need a body to make a Horcrux, he used Bertha Jorkins' death in Albania after he discovered the Triwizards Tournament would be occurring. We know that he was able to use Avada Kedavra in whatever form he was in at the time as well. No-one knows how the f* it works. -- (A wizard did it.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 03/01/12 10:20:00 AM #22:	From: nintendogirl1 \| #021 From: EmDubyaSee \| #014 Wouldn't Nagani have been made in 1995? If Halloween was the death day party, and taht was 1992, then that means that the end of Chamber would be 1993. Meaning the end of Goblet of Fire (when he would have finally been able to make a Horcrux again, since he finally existed again) would be 1995. He didn't need a body to make a Horcrux, he used Bertha Jorkins' death in Albania after he discovered the Triwizards Tournament would be occurring. We know that he was able to use Avada Kedavra in whatever form he was in at the time as well. No-one knows how the f* it works. Fair enough. Thanks. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:856092] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: nintendogirl1 \| #021From: EmDubyaSee \| #014Wouldn't Nagani have been made in 1995? If Halloween was the death day party, and taht was 1992, then that means that the end of Chamber would be 1993. Meaning the end of Goblet of Fire (when he would have finally been able to make a Horcrux again, since he finally existed again) would be 1995.He didn't need a body to make a Horcrux, he used Bertha Jorkins' death in Albania after he discovered the Triwizards Tournament would be occurring. We know that he was able to use Avada Kedavra in whatever form he was in at the time as well. No-one knows how the f* it works.Fair enough. Thanks. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/01/12 10:20:00 AM #23:	Wow that quote sounds really plausible, especially the part about Nagini being Voldemort's final Horcrux because that's not completely inaccurate at all. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:856093] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Wow that quote sounds really plausible, especially the part about Nagini being Voldemort's final Horcrux because that's not completely inaccurate at all. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 10:21:00 AM #24:	Voldemort definitely used Avada Kedavra to kill Bertha Jorkins. He definitely made Nagini into a Horcrux at that time. Yes, it's dumb. -- I agree. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856094] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Voldemort definitely used Avada Kedavra to kill Bertha Jorkins.He definitely made Nagini into a Horcrux at that time.Yes, it's dumb. -- I agree. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 10:22:00 AM #25:	From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #023 Wow that quote sounds really plausible, especially the part about Nagini being Voldemort's final Horcrux because that's not completely inaccurate at all. It's... not. Nagini was made way, way, waaaaaay after all the other Horcruxes. -- o.0 <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856095] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #023Wow that quote sounds really plausible, especially the part about Nagini being Voldemort's final Horcrux because that's not completely inaccurate at all.It's... not. Nagini was made way, way, waaaaaay after all the other Horcruxes. -- o.0 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmDubyaSee 03/01/12 10:25:00 AM #26:	I have a different question then? We know (sorta) how Priori Incantatum works, and we know it does not just show kills, but all spells performed (hence the Silver hand that appeared) so why was there not some weird thing (could even be a slight speck of light) between Bryce and Bertha in the graveyard? It could have led to 5 years of speculation for what it was too? Just seems weird we did not see anything. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \|* MWC is god-tier <cite>EmDubyaSee posted [p:856096] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> I have a different question then? We know (sorta) how Priori Incantatum works, and we know it does not just show kills, but all spells performed *(hence the Silver hand that appeared) so why was there not some weird thing (could even be a slight speck of light) between Bryce and Bertha in the graveyard? It could have led to 5 years of speculation for what it was too? Just seems weird we did not see anything. -- From: Regaro_Ukiera \| MWC is god-tier </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/01/12 10:25:00 AM #27:	Oh. I guess you could read it as 'last created' too. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:856097] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Oh. I guess you could read it as 'last created' too. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 10:35:00 AM #28:	It's possible that Horcrux creation doesn't use a wand I guess? We're basically at the point here where we're discussing the stuff JK didn't really think about, so it's hard to come up with any diffinitive answer. There's also some speculation on whether or not Quirrel was a Horcrux, since what happened there was definitely not just possession. But at that point you talk about Voldemort having 8 Horcruxes, (although only 7 at any one time) and you get some iffyness regarding there being a set number of times you can split your soul. Well, actually that's not true. JK apparently does know what the creation of a Horcrux involves and it does involve a spell. It'll be in the Harry Potter Encyclopedia whenever that inevitably sees air. -- shrug <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856098] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> It's possible that Horcrux creation doesn't use a wand I guess? We're basically at the point here where we're discussing the stuff JK didn't really think about, so it's hard to come up with any diffinitive answer. There's also some speculation on whether or not Quirrel was a Horcrux, since what happened there was definitely not just possession. But at that point you talk about Voldemort having 8 Horcruxes, (although only 7 at any one time) and you get some iffyness regarding there being a set number of times you can split your soul.Well, actually that's not true. JK apparently does know what the creation of a Horcrux involves and it does involve a spell. It'll be in the Harry Potter Encyclopedia whenever that inevitably sees air. -- shrug </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CalvinbalI 03/01/12 10:44:00 AM #29:	So wait. Voldemort intended to split himself into six horcruxes + himself, but inadvertantly split into seven + himself? And for all of book 7 both Harry and Voldy think there are a grand total of six horcruxes when there are seven, right? I could've sworn that some variation of the phrase "we must destroy the seven horcruxes" was used quite a few times throughout the book. Or wait, maybe Harry and the gang just went into the final battle not knowing where/what the final horcrux was? But why did they even know there were seven when Voldy only thought there were six? Did Dumbledore just troll Harry? "Oh yeah, he totally would intentionally 100% create seven horcruxes because seven is a powerful magic number for some reason. Disregard the fact that he'd actually be splitting himself into eight pieces, you're just not as smart as I am." Man, it's a shame all the plot mechanics of the seventh book are so dumb. It's pretty good, discounting the horcruxes and hallows. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvin http://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png <cite>CalvinbalI posted [p:856099] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> So wait. Voldemort intended to split himself into six horcruxes + himself, but inadvertantly split into seven + himself? And for all of book 7 both Harry and Voldy think there are a grand total of six horcruxes when there are seven, right? I could've sworn that some variation of the phrase "we must destroy the seven horcruxes" was used quite a few times throughout the book.Or wait, maybe Harry and the gang just went into the final battle not knowing where/what the final horcrux was? But why did they even know there were seven when Voldy only thought there were six? Did Dumbledore just troll Harry? "Oh yeah, he totally would intentionally 100% create seven horcruxes because seven is a powerful magic number for some reason. Disregard the fact that he'd actually be splitting himself into eight pieces, you're just not as smart as I am."Man, it's a shame all the plot mechanics of the seventh book are so dumb. It's pretty good, discounting the horcruxes and hallows. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvinhttp://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nintendogirl1 03/01/12 10:48:00 AM #30:	From: CalvinbalI \| #029 So wait. Voldemort intended to split himself into six horcruxes + himself, but inadvertantly split into seven + himself? And for all of book 7 both Harry and Voldy think there are a grand total of six horcruxes when there are seven, right? Yes. Intended 6 + himself. Actually made 7 + himself. Plus Quirrel the temporary Horcrux. -- Dumb. <cite>nintendogirl1 posted [p:856100] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: CalvinbalI \| #029So wait. Voldemort intended to split himself into six horcruxes + himself, but inadvertantly split into seven + himself? And for all of book 7 both Harry and Voldy think there are a grand total of six horcruxes when there are seven, right?Yes.Intended 6 + himself.Actually made 7 + himself.Plus Quirrel the temporary Horcrux. -- Dumb. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CalvinbalI 03/01/12 11:57:00 AM #31:	So if Harry didn't even know there was a seventh horcrux, and he already knew what all six were, how again did he figure out he was a final, seventh horcrux? -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvin http://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png <cite>CalvinbalI posted [p:856101] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> So if Harry didn't even know there was a seventh horcrux, and he already knew what all six were, how again did he figure out he was a final, seventh horcrux? -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvinhttp://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CalvinbalI 03/01/12 11:59:00 AM #32:	And it's amazing that Voldy never thought Harry might be a horcrux when he himself uses Quirrel as a horcrux. God this stuff really is dumb. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvin http://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png <cite>CalvinbalI posted [p:856102] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> And it's amazing that Voldy never thought Harry might be a horcrux when he himself uses Quirrel as a horcrux. God this stuff really is dumb. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvinhttp://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/01/12 12:03:00 PM #33:	Wait so... Dumbledore knew that Harry was the final Horcrux. Which means he knew there were seven, and he passed that onto Harry. So Harry knew there were seven, but he didn't know he was one of them... I guess. While Voldemort only thought there were six without knowing Harry was the seventh. Or something. F* I don't know. -- ~Halo Everybody run! http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6195/furriese.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:856103] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Wait so... Dumbledore knew that Harry was the final Horcrux. Which means he knew there were seven, and he passed that onto Harry. So Harry knew there were seven, but he didn't know he was one of them... I guess. While Voldemort only thought there were six without knowing Harry was the seventh.Or something.F* I don't know. -- ~Halo Everybody run!http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6195/furriese.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecTrevelyan006 03/01/12 12:04:00 PM #34:	A wizard did it. -- http://img.imgcake.com/alecoweenpngam.png http://img.imgcake.com/alecpngym.png <cite>AlecTrevelyan006 posted [p:856104] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> A wizard did it. -- http://img.imgcake.com/alecoweenpngam.pnghttp://img.imgcake.com/alecpngym.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mnkboy907 03/01/12 12:20:00 PM #35:	From: CalvinbalI \| #031 So if Harry didn't even know there was a seventh horcrux, and he already knew what all six were, how again did he figure out he was a final, seventh horcrux? If I remember right, he didn't know he was the seventh horcrux until he died and Dumbledore told him at King's Cross. -- First is mnk'boy'907, who looks fab with her gray skin and grandma poncho/shawl thing~ http://img.imgcake.com/nio/boypngbu.png - Nio <cite>mnkboy907 posted [p:856105] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: CalvinbalI \| #031So if Harry didn't even know there was a seventh horcrux, and he already knew what all six were, how again did he figure out he was a final, seventh horcrux?If I remember right, he didn't know he was the seventh horcrux until he died and Dumbledore told him at King's Cross. -- First is mnk'boy'907, who looks fab with her gray skin and grandma poncho/shawl thing~http://img.imgcake.com/nio/boypngbu.png - Nio </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 03/01/12 12:30:00 PM #36:	He knew earlier, when he looked at Snape's memories in the Pensieve. That's why he went after Voldemort, since he thought he had to let him kill him to get rid of it -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:856106] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> He knew earlier, when he looked at Snape's memories in the Pensieve. That's why he went after Voldemort, since he thought he had to let him kill him to get rid of it -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CalvinbalI 03/01/12 5:16:00 PM #37:	From: DeathChicken \| #036 He knew earlier, when he looked at Snape's memories in the Pensieve. That's why he went after Voldemort, since he thought he had to let him kill him to get rid of it Oh, that's right. Man, it's extremely fortunate that Harry managed to stumble across Snape just before his death, then. If he hadn't done that, he never would've learned he was the seventh horcrux.He'd defeat Voldemort because of dumb elder wand mechanics, but Voldemort would just come back again and Harry would have no idea why. As he breaks the elder wand shortly after, he'd no longer have dumb elder wand mechanics to hide behind, and Voldy may even realize what his seventh horcrux is and not kill Harry. Just imprison him for the rest of his life while Voldemort goes on to take over the world. Yet another aspect of the series' finale that hinges on pure luck, hooray! -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvin http://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png <cite>CalvinbalI posted [p:856107] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: DeathChicken \| #036He knew earlier, when he looked at Snape's memories in the Pensieve. That's why he went after Voldemort, since he thought he had to let him kill him to get rid of itOh, that's right. Man, it's extremely fortunate that Harry managed to stumble across Snape just before his death, then. If he hadn't done that, he never would've learned he was the seventh horcrux.He'd defeat Voldemort because of dumb elder wand mechanics, but Voldemort would just come back again and Harry would have no idea why. As he breaks the elder wand shortly after, he'd no longer have dumb elder wand mechanics to hide behind, and Voldy may even realize what his seventh horcrux is and not kill Harry. Just imprison him for the rest of his life while Voldemort goes on to take over the world.Yet another aspect of the series' finale that hinges on pure luck, hooray! -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvinhttp://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forceful_Dragon 03/01/12 5:23:00 PM #38:	Voldemort: 1 Ring / Diadem / Cup / Locket: 2, 3, 4, 5 Diary: 6 Snake: 7 (not in that order mind you) 7 parts intended. From: ShadowHalo17 \| #033 Wait so... Dumbledore knew that Harry was the final Horcrux. Which means he knew there were seven, and he passed that onto Harry. So Harry knew there were seven, but he didn't know he was one of them... I guess. While Voldemort only thought there were six without knowing Harry was the seventh. Or something. F* I don't know. All they learned from the Slughorn memory is that Tom wanted to "split his soul into 7 parts". But this only requires 6 horcruxes and so that is what was assumed by harry until the very end. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/fdshieldpngyn.png Eff_Dee http://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg <cite>Forceful_Dragon posted [p:856108] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Voldemort: 1Ring / Diadem / Cup / Locket: 2, 3, 4, 5Diary: 6Snake: 7(not in that order mind you)7 parts intended.From: ShadowHalo17 \| #033Wait so... Dumbledore knew that Harry was the final Horcrux. Which means he knew there were seven, and he passed that onto Harry. So Harry knew there were seven, but he didn't know he was one of them... I guess. While Voldemort only thought there were six without knowing Harry was the seventh.Or something.F* I don't know.All they learned from the Slughorn memory is that Tom wanted to "split his soul into 7 parts". But this only requires 6 horcruxes and so that is what was assumed by harry until the very end. -- http://img.imgcake.com/AlecTrevylan006/fdshieldpngyn.png Eff_Deehttp://img.imgcake.com/FDjpgyb.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/01/12 5:54:00 PM #39:	From: CalvinbalI \| #037 Yet another aspect of the series' finale that hinges on pure luck, hooray! I'm pretty sure Harry even admitted that most of his fortunes and success were due to pure luck. -- ~Halo Everybody run! http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6195/furriese.jpg <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:856109] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> From: CalvinbalI \| #037Yet another aspect of the series' finale that hinges on pure luck, hooray!I'm pretty sure Harry even admitted that most of his fortunes and success were due to pure luck. -- ~Halo Everybody run!http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/6195/furriese.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Natwaf_akidna 03/01/12 5:55:00 PM #40:	He said that during Dumbledore's Army creation, didn't he? -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic! Aww, I lost to SuperNiceDog, Winner of the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest <cite>Natwaf_akidna posted [p:856110] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> He said that during Dumbledore's Army creation, didn't he? -- My Little Phineas and Ferb: Summer is Magic!Aww, I lost to SuperNiceDog, Winner of the Rivalry Rumble Guru Contest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rychu_supadude 03/01/12 6:00:00 PM #41:	95% of all real-life heroes rely on luck as well. There's no way that should be perceived as an insult! <cite>rychu_supadude posted [p:856111] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> 95% of all real-life heroes rely on luck as well. There's no way that should be perceived as an insult! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/01/12 6:27:00 PM #42:	Every day people rely on luck. Or destiny. Or fate. Or whatever the f* you wanna call it. It's just life. -- ~Halo Give into the Night. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:856112] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Every day people rely on luck.Or destiny. Or fate. Or whatever the f* you wanna call it. It's just life. -- ~Halo Give into the Night.http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cloud and Squall 03/01/12 6:42:00 PM #43:	No it wasn't "luck" that Harry stumbled upon Snape. In fact it was unlucky that it had to happen that way. When Harry first returns to Hogwarts, Snape is looking for Harry. Obviously, he planned on giving Harry the information there. That's why he insists McGonagall tell him if she's seen Harry. That Snape doesn't get to tell him there is unlucky. -- See You In Another Life, Brother. New York Giants - The Patriot Slayers <cite>Cloud and Squall posted [p:856113] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> No it wasn't "luck" that Harry stumbled upon Snape. In fact it was unlucky that it had to happen that way. When Harry first returns to Hogwarts, Snape is looking for Harry. Obviously, he planned on giving Harry the information there. That's why he insists McGonagall tell him if she's seen Harry. That Snape doesn't get to tell him there is unlucky. -- See You In Another Life, Brother.New York Giants - The Patriot Slayers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CalvinbalI 03/01/12 7:00:00 PM #44:	See, if there was any part of what happened to Harry/Voldemort in the final battle that was actually planned by Harry before hand, I'd be totally ok with luck being a factor in his victory. But he went into that final battle without a single clue what he was going to do. He didn't know he had ownership of the elder wand, he lucked into it without even being aware of the fact. He didn't know there was a seventh horcrux, he lucked into that information. He didn't know he'd survive his pseudo-sacrifice to Voldemort, he got lucky there too. Yeah, I know Harry admits in the fifth book that he simply gets lucky a lot. It really would've been quite nice if sometime after that he could've grown into a capable wizard and/or a savvy thinker, too. Wouldn't you find the ending a lot more satisfying if he gained ownership of the elder wand through intentional means? Or if, through exploring his peculiar psychic relationship with Voldemort, he came to understand what it truly meant? It's not like Rowling wrote herself into a corner or anything, those connections were there, waiting to be made. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvin http://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png <cite>CalvinbalI posted [p:856114] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> See, if there was any part of what happened to Harry/Voldemort in the final battle that was actually planned by Harry before hand, I'd be totally ok with luck being a factor in his victory. But he went into that final battle without a single clue what he was going to do. He didn't know he had ownership of the elder wand, he lucked into it without even being aware of the fact. He didn't know there was a seventh horcrux, he lucked into that information. He didn't know he'd survive his pseudo-sacrifice to Voldemort, he got lucky there too.Yeah, I know Harry admits in the fifth book that he simply gets lucky a lot. It really would've been quite nice if sometime after that he could've grown into a capable wizard and/or a savvy thinker, too. Wouldn't you find the ending a lot more satisfying if he gained ownership of the elder wand through intentional means? Or if, through exploring his peculiar psychic relationship with Voldemort, he came to understand what it truly meant? It's not like Rowling wrote herself into a corner or anything, those connections were there, waiting to be made. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvinhttp://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cloud and Squall 03/01/12 7:02:00 PM #45:	Uhh, yes, Harry DID know that he had ownership of the Elder Wand. In fact he tells Voldemort outright that the Elder Wand belongs to him. -- See You In Another Life, Brother. New York Giants - The Patriot Slayers <cite>Cloud and Squall posted [p:856115] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Uhh, yes, Harry DID know that he had ownership of the Elder Wand. In fact he tells Voldemort outright that the Elder Wand belongs to him. -- See You In Another Life, Brother.New York Giants - The Patriot Slayers </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CalvinbalI 03/01/12 7:11:00 PM #46:	He knew once he had it, and even then only towards the very end. He had no idea what he was doing when he took ownership of it, that he did so was completely coincidental. If Hermione had shoved Malfoy and took his wand instead of Harry, she would've been the owner. If no one had taken Malfoy's wand, they would've been SOL. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvin http://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png <cite>CalvinbalI posted [p:856116] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> He knew once he had it, and even then only towards the very end. He had no idea what he was doing when he took ownership of it, that he did so was completely coincidental. If Hermione had shoved Malfoy and took his wand instead of Harry, she would've been the owner. If no one had taken Malfoy's wand, they would've been SOL. -- "It's a magical world, Hobbes ol' buddy...let's go exploring!" - Calvinhttp://img.imgcake.com/calvinfinalpngpy.png </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ShadowHalo17 03/01/12 7:11:00 PM #47:	Regardless that's not who Harry Potter is. Throughout the whole series he was just a regular guy who was cast into his role through circumstances that were out of his control. Therefore luck played heavily on his accomplishments and progress. That was the whole point. He never wanted to be who he was, he never planned, he wasn't an all powerful wizard. He was just Harry Potter. He was cast into his role and he faced it head on with a lot of courage while everyone else either told him what to do or guided him in some way (Dumbledore for the most part). -- *~Halo* Give into the Night. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif <cite>ShadowHalo17 posted [p:856117] in Wait, is t... [t:62110084]...</cite> <quote> Regardless that's not who Harry Potter is. Throughout the whole series he was just a regular guy who was cast into his role through circumstances that were out of his control. Therefore luck played heavily on his accomplishments and progress. That was the whole point. He never wanted to be who he was, he never planned, he wasn't an all powerful wizard. He was just Harry Potter. He was cast into his role and he faced it head on with a lot of courage while everyone else either told him what to do or guided him in some way (Dumbledore for the most part). -- ~Halo Give into the Night.http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/ShadowHalo/haloshadow1.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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