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Sceptilesolarbeam 03/13/12 9:51:00 AM #101:	From: Anagram \| #099 By the way, I know we're currently 4500 experience away from leveling, but I expect you guys to level up either this week or next week, depending on your actions. para'gone' -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:887224] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: Anagram \| #099By the way, I know we're currently 4500 experience away from leveling, but I expect you guys to level up either this week or next week, depending on your actions.para'gone' -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SovietOmega 03/13/12 12:10:00 PM #102:	*Accel ACE posted...* Would it be alright if I invited someone to sit in and watch next session? She's never played 4e before but wants to see how it goes down, is that cool? Edit: With the coming of username reconciliation my username will probably wind up as Accel_R8 or some variation of Accel. Just to avoid confusion! "Why are they chopping that person's head off? Caged prisoners? Why is the mean lady torturing that poor girl? I know that Burson is the badguy but why are they plotting to kill everything that moves on the island? I hate dnd forever" -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out <cite>SovietOmega posted [p:887225] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Accel ACE posted...Would it be alright if I invited someone to sit in and watch next session? She's never played 4e before but wants to see how it goes down, is that cool?Edit: With the coming of username reconciliation my username will probably wind up as Accel_R8 or some variation of Accel. Just to avoid confusion!"Why are they chopping that person's head off? Caged prisoners? Why is the mean lady torturing that poor girl? I know that Burson is the badguy but why are they plotting to kill everything that moves on the island? I hate dnd forever" -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 12:27:00 PM #103:	*Sceptilesolarbeam posted...* From: Anagram \| #099 By the way, I know we're currently 4500 experience away from leveling, but I expect you guys to level up either this week or next week, depending on your actions. para'gone' Hey man, as you go up in level, so does the amount of experience you get. And next session should be a fairly important one. And as for you, Omega... Yeah, that's basically one of our sessions. Except that Burson hasn't actually done anything villainous! -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887226] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Sceptilesolarbeam posted...From: Anagram \| #099By the way, I know we're currently 4500 experience away from leveling, but I expect you guys to level up either this week or next week, depending on your actions.para'gone'Hey man, as you go up in level, so does the amount of experience you get. And next session should be a fairly important one.And as for you, Omega... Yeah, that's basically one of our sessions. Except that Burson hasn't actually done anything villainous! -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/13/12 1:30:00 PM #104:	Burson hasn't been a villain at all, he gave us some info that wasn't all of the truth, but it wasn't his fault. In all honesty I have NO idea why we're so butthurt about him, he's not being an antagonist. (yet) -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887227] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Burson hasn't been a villain at all, he gave us some info that wasn't all of the truth, but it wasn't his fault. In all honesty I have NO idea why we're so butthurt about him, he's not being an antagonist.(yet) -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/13/12 1:59:00 PM #105:	Well, he says it wasn't his fault. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:887228] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Well, he says it wasn't his fault. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IhatethisCPU 03/13/12 3:20:00 PM #106:	*SovietOmega posted...* Accel ACE posted... Would it be alright if I invited someone to sit in and watch next session? She's never played 4e before but wants to see how it goes down, is that cool? Edit: With the coming of username reconciliation my username will probably wind up as Accel_R8 or some variation of Accel. Just to avoid confusion! "Why are they chopping that person's head off? Caged prisoners? Why is the mean lady torturing that poor girl? I know that Burson is the badguy but why are they plotting to kill everything that moves on the island? I hate dnd forever" That's the other problem, yeah. <_<' -- "If you own this thing you own you will own it!" <cite>IhatethisCPU posted [p:887229] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> SovietOmega posted...Accel ACE posted...Would it be alright if I invited someone to sit in and watch next session? She's never played 4e before but wants to see how it goes down, is that cool?Edit: With the coming of username reconciliation my username will probably wind up as Accel_R8 or some variation of Accel. Just to avoid confusion!"Why are they chopping that person's head off? Caged prisoners? Why is the mean lady torturing that poor girl? I know that Burson is the badguy but why are they plotting to kill everything that moves on the island? I hate dnd forever"That's the other problem, yeah. <_<' -- "If you own this thing you own you will own it!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/13/12 3:52:00 PM #107:	So in the event of T'horon's departure, I actually think I want to keep Vance as a doll for a while. Because I want to play this: (just replace that hammer with a glaive). -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887230] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> So in the event of T'horon's departure, I actually think I want to keep Vance as a doll for a while. Because I want to play this: (just replace that hammer with a glaive). -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 3:54:00 PM #108:	*Accel ACE posted...* So in the event of T'horon's departure, I actually think I want to keep Vance as a doll for a while. Because I want to play this: (just replace that hammer with a glaive). You can play anything you want, as long as it isn't Vance. If it is Vance, you'd need to tell me a session or two ahead of time. If you want, you can retire Thoron to NPC status and play... glaive girl. With that said, I'm planning a particularly difficult battle come next session, so we'll see how that works out for Thoron's defenderness. ... And what class would that girl be, anyway, considering you're the party's defender? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887231] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Accel ACE posted...So in the event of T'horon's departure, I actually think I want to keep Vance as a doll for a while. Because I want to play this: (just replace that hammer with a glaive).You can play anything you want, as long as it isn't Vance. If it is Vance, you'd need to tell me a session or two ahead of time. If you want, you can retire Thoron to NPC status and play... glaive girl. With that said, I'm planning a particularly difficult battle come next session, so we'll see how that works out for Thoron's defenderness.... And what class would that girl be, anyway, considering you're the party's defender? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/13/12 3:57:00 PM #109:	I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult. Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:887232] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult.Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/13/12 3:57:00 PM #110:	Fighter. Because fighters. -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887233] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Fighter.Because fighters. -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 3:59:00 PM #111:	*Sceptilesolarbeam posted...* I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult. Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water. Huntsman didn't end up nearly as difficult as I thought she would; ultimately she was just frozen in place by various status effects and wailed upon. Only Valerian and Thoron were even bloodied. I hope to make a fight that's as difficult as the first Eren fight, but one that you'll, you know, actually win. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887234] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Sceptilesolarbeam posted...I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult.Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water.Huntsman didn't end up nearly as difficult as I thought she would; ultimately she was just frozen in place by various status effects and wailed upon. Only Valerian and Thoron were even bloodied. I hope to make a fight that's as difficult as the first Eren fight, but one that you'll, you know, actually win. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/13/12 4:08:00 PM #112:	I suppose that's true, but T'horon is a defender; he's supposed to be. I mean, if the Huntsman had aimed some of those attacks at me I'd have been in danger of being one-shotted. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:887235] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> I suppose that's true, but T'horon is a defender; he's supposed to be. I mean, if the Huntsman had aimed some of those attacks at me I'd have been in danger of being one-shotted. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tirofog 03/13/12 4:13:00 PM #113:	Don't forget though, Val had a lucky crit that helped enable that ridiculous damage turn. Val and Thoron also were not just bloodied, but at very low HP (and Val got KO'd by Brona's finishing blow), and if those two had gone down, then the fight would have been much harder to finish. So uh... don't make it too impossible, now. I did enjoy the minions - was a nice change of pace from the other fights we've had. -- But the way it is cannot persist for long A brutal sun is rising on a sick horizon <cite>Tirofog posted [p:887236] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Don't forget though, Val had a lucky crit that helped enable that ridiculous damage turn. Val and Thoron also were not just bloodied, but at very low HP (and Val got KO'd by Brona's finishing blow), and if those two had gone down, then the fight would have been much harder to finish. So uh... don't make it too impossible, now.I did enjoy the minions - was a nice change of pace from the other fights we've had. -- But the way it is cannot persist for longA brutal sun is rising on a sick horizon </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/13/12 4:16:00 PM #114:	T'horon literally hit 1 hp at some point. That encounter was adequately challenging IMO. It just happens that T'horon and Valerian outplayed her with clutch ultis and huge crits while the rest of the team mopped up minions and kept up heals. -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887237] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> T'horon literally hit 1 hp at some point. That encounter was adequately challenging IMO. It just happens that T'horon and Valerian outplayed her with clutch ultis and huge crits while the rest of the team mopped up minions and kept up heals. -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 6:01:00 PM #115:	I suppose. I'm still hoping to make the next encounter very difficult, though. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887238] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> I suppose. I'm still hoping to make the next encounter very difficult, though. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/13/12 6:06:00 PM #116:	Well, sounds good as long as difficulty doesn't mean TIME FOR QUADRUPLE STRIKE. In entirely unrelated news. Is there perhaps a feat of some sort that might allow me to use Ensorcelled Blade as an RBA, or alternatively to use Acid Orb as an MBA? I was wondering about Sorcerous Blade Channeling, but I'm not sure that works properly (it allows me to use RBAs at melee, but I don't think that's the same thing making them MBAs). There are some very silly combos later on that make me wish I could double up, but I don't want to actually take both kinds and lose the AoE at-will. Since my DEX is good my dagger RBA isn't all that bad, but I still wish for a better option. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:887239] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Well, sounds good as long as difficulty doesn't mean TIME FOR QUADRUPLE STRIKE.In entirely unrelated news. Is there perhaps a feat of some sort that might allow me to use Ensorcelled Blade as an RBA, or alternatively to use Acid Orb as an MBA? I was wondering about Sorcerous Blade Channeling, but I'm not sure that works properly (it allows me to use RBAs at melee, but I don't think that's the same thing making them MBAs).There are some very silly combos later on that make me wish I could double up, but I don't want to actually take both kinds and lose the AoE at-will.Since my DEX is good my dagger RBA isn't all that bad, but I still wish for a better option. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/13/12 7:13:00 PM #117:	From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #116 Well, sounds good as long as difficulty doesn't mean TIME FOR QUADRUPLE STRIKE. In entirely unrelated news. Is there perhaps a feat of some sort that might allow me to use Ensorcelled Blade as an RBA, or alternatively to use Acid Orb as an MBA? I was wondering about Sorcerous Blade Channeling, but I'm not sure that works properly (it allows me to use RBAs at melee, but I don't think that's the same thing making them MBAs). There are some very silly combos later on that make me wish I could double up, but I don't want to actually take both kinds and lose the AoE at-will. Since my DEX is good my dagger RBA isn't all that bad, but I still wish for a better option. Reaper's Touch and being a Shadar-Kai. Sadly, nothing else will work. From: Accel ACE \| #114 T'horon literally hit 1 hp at some point. That encounter was adequately challenging IMO. It just happens that T'horon and Valerian outplayed her with clutch ultis and huge crits while the rest of the team mopped up minions and kept up heals. T'horon never hit 1, but yeah, it was close. Being honest, what made the fight closer than it had any right to be was the archers - t hey managed to dish out excessive amounts of damage to us without any adequate response, as we never had the time to park the defenders next to them and start minionpopping. From: Tirofog \| #113 Don't forget though, Val had a lucky crit that helped enable that ridiculous damage turn. Val and Thoron also were not just bloodied, but at very low HP (and Val got KO'd by Brona's finishing blow), and if those two had gone down, then the fight would have been much harder to finish. So uh... don't make it too impossible, now. >_> I did enjoy the minions, by the way - it was a nice change of pace from the other fights we've had. To be fair though, this was purely a result of action starvation - at this point, I have more minor actions than I can spend. I actually still could heal myself for my bloodied value if it came down to it, and all this without Stirring Shout even coming out. There's plenty of room to crank the difficult of an encounter up, it just means we'll really have to start busting out dailies to make it through. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887240] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #116Well, sounds good as long as difficulty doesn't mean TIME FOR QUADRUPLE STRIKE.In entirely unrelated news. Is there perhaps a feat of some sort that might allow me to use Ensorcelled Blade as an RBA, or alternatively to use Acid Orb as an MBA? I was wondering about Sorcerous Blade Channeling, but I'm not sure that works properly (it allows me to use RBAs at melee, but I don't think that's the same thing making them MBAs).There are some very silly combos later on that make me wish I could double up, but I don't want to actually take both kinds and lose the AoE at-will.Since my DEX is good my dagger RBA isn't all that bad, but I still wish for a better option.Reaper's Touch and being a Shadar-Kai. Sadly, nothing else will work.From: Accel ACE \| #114T'horon literally hit 1 hp at some point. That encounter was adequately challenging IMO. It just happens that T'horon and Valerian outplayed her with clutch ultis and huge crits while the rest of the team mopped up minions and kept up heals.T'horon never hit 1, but yeah, it was close. Being honest, what made the fight closer than it had any right to be was the archers - t hey managed to dish out excessive amounts of damage to us without any adequate response, as we never had the time to park the defenders next to them and start minionpopping.From: Tirofog \| #113Don't forget though, Val had a lucky crit that helped enable that ridiculous damage turn. Val and Thoron also were not just bloodied, but at very low HP (and Val got KO'd by Brona's finishing blow), and if those two had gone down, then the fight would have been much harder to finish. So uh... don't make it too impossible, now. >_>I did enjoy the minions, by the way - it was a nice change of pace from the other fights we've had.To be fair though, this was purely a result of action starvation - at this point, I have more minor actions than I can spend. I actually still could heal myself for my bloodied value if it came down to it, and all this without Stirring Shout even coming out. There's plenty of room to crank the difficult of an encounter up, it just means we'll really have to start busting out dailies to make it through. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/13/12 7:16:00 PM #118:	From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #109 I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult. Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water. And unrelated to the above, assuming there was a way out and some interesting enemies to fight (read: Hell In A Cell or a big minion squad), this would indeed be a legitimate way to add difficulty. Now, if it's just 'roll a crit against the cage or you're still stuck' like it was with Miss R.'s super ropes, that'd be a different story. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887241] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #109I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult.Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water.And unrelated to the above, assuming there was a way out and some interesting enemies to fight (read: Hell In A Cell or a big minion squad), this would indeed be a legitimate way to add difficulty. Now, if it's just 'roll a crit against the cage or you're still stuck' like it was with Miss R.'s super ropes, that'd be a different story. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 8:06:00 PM #119:	*KanzarisKelshen posted...* From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #109 I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult. Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water. And unrelated to the above, assuming there was a way out and some interesting enemies to fight (read: Hell In A Cell or a big minion squad), this would indeed be a legitimate way to add difficulty. Now, if it's just 'roll a crit against the cage or you're still stuck' like it was with Miss R.'s super ropes, that'd be a different story. Miss R's super ropes were just meant to stop you from trying to escape the Huntsman and force you to fight, which you ultimately did anyway because the Huntsman also had the poison. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887242] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> KanzarisKelshen posted...From: Sceptilesolarbeam \| #109I thought the Huntsman fight was already particularly difficult.Wait, wait, I've got it. Val gets thrown in a cage before the fight starts. Instant difficulty, just add water.And unrelated to the above, assuming there was a way out and some interesting enemies to fight (read: Hell In A Cell or a big minion squad), this would indeed be a legitimate way to add difficulty. Now, if it's just 'roll a crit against the cage or you're still stuck' like it was with Miss R.'s super ropes, that'd be a different story.Miss R's super ropes were just meant to stop you from trying to escape the Huntsman and force you to fight, which you ultimately did anyway because the Huntsman also had the poison. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 8:54:00 PM #120:	BEHOLD MY GREATEST WORK YET -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887243] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> BEHOLDMY GREATEST WORK YET -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/13/12 9:02:00 PM #121:	From: Anagram \| #120 BEHOLD MY GREATEST WORK YET The only thing that comes to mind is this: 'Groovy, bro.' -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887244] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: Anagram \| #120BEHOLDMY GREATEST WORK YETThe only thing that comes to mind is this:'Groovy, bro.' -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SovietOmega 03/13/12 9:09:00 PM #122:	clearly that is an actual size wrench and he is a dwarf dwarf -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out <cite>SovietOmega posted [p:887245] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> clearly that is an actual size wrench and he is a dwarf dwarf -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 9:11:00 PM #123:	*KanzarisKelshen posted...* From: Anagram \| #120 BEHOLD MY GREATEST WORK YET The only thing that comes to mind is this: 'Groovy, bro.' They were meant to be goggles but it turns out that I can't draw. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887246] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> KanzarisKelshen posted...From: Anagram \| #120BEHOLDMY GREATEST WORK YETThe only thing that comes to mind is this:'Groovy, bro.'They were meant to be goggles but it turns out that I can't draw. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 9:16:00 PM #124:	*KanzarisKelshen posted...* Stealing Accel's list for convenience. Miss R Eren, Forget Broguard, Samantha Teracor, Calmarie Konamy, Learrette Tevaline Winter Sonya Dubs, Atharathes Vivi, Ephestral Ederax, Hillalee Rael (Past) Ashara, Rogdar, Arena Joe Marial Aluxial (Past), Shursh Queen Rael (current) Burson Aluxial Hammerconnery Swiftfoot McQueeniel Fanas This list's order is basically an order of how effective, as characters, I think the NPCs are - that is, how strong a response they evoke from me, and how well the response fits with what they're supposed to be. Queen is basically the cutoff point after which the characters don't really achieve a sufficient response, either because I don't much care about them or because they fail at their role. I can explain it in further detail if you'd like. If multiple characters are on the same line, that means I more or less consider them equally good at their respective story roles. This is not a tier list based on how much I like them from Valerian's position (Learrette would be ranked super low if that were the case for instance), but rather how compelling they are, as characters. Thus, some villains rank highly, while others kind of rot in a low position. And I'm happy to hear any further detail you want to offer - I'm a bit surprised by current Rael placing in the "don't achieve a sufficient response" area. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887247] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> KanzarisKelshen posted...Stealing Accel's list for convenience.Miss REren, ForgetBroguard, SamanthaTeracor, CalmarieKonamy, LearretteTevalineWinterSonyaDubs, AtharathesVivi, EphestralEderax, HillaleeRael (Past)Ashara, Rogdar, Arena JoeMarialAluxial (Past), ShurshQueen Rael (current)BursonAluxialHammerconnerySwiftfootMcQueenielFanasThis list's order is basically an order of how effective, as characters, I think the NPCs are - that is, how strong a response they evoke from me, and how well the response fits with what they're supposed to be. Queen is basically the cutoff point after which the characters don't really achieve a sufficient response, either because I don't much care about them or because they fail at their role. I can explain it in further detail if you'd like. If multiple characters are on the same line, that means I more or less consider them equally good at their respective story roles. This is not a tier list based on how much I like them from Valerian's position (Learrette would be ranked super low if that were the case for instance), but rather how compelling they are, as characters. Thus, some villains rank highly, while others kind of rot in a low position.And I'm happy to hear any further detail you want to offer - I'm a bit surprised by current Rael placing in the "don't achieve a sufficient response" area. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 9:17:00 PM #125:	*IhatethisCPU posted...* Which themes would ya like changed? Tier list: Miss R Eren Forget, Broguard, Winter Sonya, Vivi Samantha Konamy, Calmarie Teracor, McQueeniel Hammerconnery, Ephestral Atha Rodgar, Rael (current) Ashara, Dubs, Rael (Past) Eda and Hille Huntsman Marial, Aluxial, Swiftfoot Shursh Arena Joe Fanas, Queen Aluxial (Past), Burson Learette Give me a bit to listen to all of the themes again and get back to you. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887248] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> IhatethisCPU posted...Which themes would ya like changed?Tier list:Miss RErenForget, Broguard, WinterSonya,ViviSamanthaKonamy,CalmarieTeracor, McQueenielHammerconnery, EphestralAthaRodgar,Rael (current)Ashara, Dubs, Rael (Past)Eda and HilleHuntsmanMarial,Aluxial, SwiftfootShurshArena JoeFanas, QueenAluxial (Past), BursonLearetteGive me a bit to listen to all of the themes again and get back to you. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/13/12 10:22:00 PM #126:	T'horon was at 50 HP even and then took two hits that added up to 49, I had added them wrong at first then Brona corrected me, putting me at literally 1 hp lol. Anyway I figured out what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna keep playing T'horon until level 12 or maybe 13, so I can have fun with a paragon tier swordmage. After that, I might demote him to NPC like Anagram was saying, I have a means to justify it in-character already now anyway. -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887249] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> T'horon was at 50 HP even and then took two hits that added up to 49, I had added them wrong at first then Brona corrected me, putting me at literally 1 hp lol.Anyway I figured out what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna keep playing T'horon until level 12 or maybe 13, so I can have fun with a paragon tier swordmage. After that, I might demote him to NPC like Anagram was saying, I have a means to justify it in-character already now anyway. -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SovietOmega 03/13/12 10:30:00 PM #127:	*Accel ACE posted...* T'horon was at 50 HP even and then took two hits that added up to 49, I had added them wrong at first then Brona corrected me, putting me at literally 1 hp lol. Anyway I figured out what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna keep playing T'horon until level 12 or maybe 13, so I can have fun with a paragon tier swordmage. After that, I might demote him to NPC like Anagram was saying, I have a means to justify it in-character already now anyway. I know we need a few more people to have an actual crew, and that we could use more males, but...surely there must be an easier method than character rotating every couple levels! Or is this a quest to try out every class permutation in 4e? :3 -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out <cite>SovietOmega posted [p:887250] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Accel ACE posted...T'horon was at 50 HP even and then took two hits that added up to 49, I had added them wrong at first then Brona corrected me, putting me at literally 1 hp lol.Anyway I figured out what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna keep playing T'horon until level 12 or maybe 13, so I can have fun with a paragon tier swordmage. After that, I might demote him to NPC like Anagram was saying, I have a means to justify it in-character already now anyway.I know we need a few more people to have an actual crew, and that we could use more males, but...surely there must be an easier method than character rotating every couple levels!Or is this a quest to try out every class permutation in 4e? :3 -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/13/12 10:43:00 PM #128:	Well Vance was an out related to the story, that wasn't entirely pre-planned. And, the backup character I have in mind is another fighter, the class I'm most comfortable with lol. -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887251] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Well Vance was an out related to the story, that wasn't entirely pre-planned. And, the backup character I have in mind is another fighter, the class I'm most comfortable with lol. -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 10:45:00 PM #129:	A pure fighter or a hybrid again? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887252] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> A pure fighter or a hybrid again? -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/13/12 11:07:00 PM #130:	Straight up fighter, though Vance wasn't really a hybrid per se, just had a multiclass feat. This fighter uses almost exclusively fighter feats. -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887253] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Straight up fighter, though Vance wasn't really a hybrid per se, just had a multiclass feat. This fighter uses almost exclusively fighter feats. -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/13/12 11:08:00 PM #131:	*Accel ACE posted...* Straight up fighter, though Vance wasn't really a hybrid per se, just had a multiclass feat. This fighter uses almost exclusively fighter feats. What would her personality be? I doubt she could bro it up like Vance, but I'd like to hear it. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887254] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Accel ACE posted...Straight up fighter, though Vance wasn't really a hybrid per se, just had a multiclass feat. This fighter uses almost exclusively fighter feats.What would her personality be? I doubt she could bro it up like Vance, but I'd like to hear it. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/13/12 11:57:00 PM #132:	From: Anagram \| #124 And I'm happy to hear any further detail you want to offer - I'm a bit surprised by current Rael placing in the "don't achieve a sufficient response" area. The current Rael is a force of nature. With so much power at his disposal, he's ceased to be someone I can relate to in any way - he's just a threat that needs to be exterminated, stopped and contained. Like a massive tsunami. It doesn't matter how noble his intentions are - he's playing god, which invalidates any form of justification for his actions, since he's robbing everybody of their inalienable rights. You could have him cackle madly, chew scenery and graphically rape babies and it wouldn't increase my desire to take him down any more - his power has dwarfed his character completely. He was more interesting when he was a powerful mysoginist instead of an unmatchably intelligent, unstoppable god-king who we can't touch and probably knows what we're doing right now regardless of our scrying invisibility and is letting us do our thing because it furthers his entirely too complicated plans. Does that explain my position on Rael a bit? He's been dehumanized by his power. I can go into more detail across the whole tier list if there's anything else you'd like to know about. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887255] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: Anagram \| #124And I'm happy to hear any further detail you want to offer - I'm a bit surprised by current Rael placing in the "don't achieve a sufficient response" area.The current Rael is a force of nature. With so much power at his disposal, he's ceased to be someone I can relate to in any way - he's just a threat that needs to be exterminated, stopped and contained. Like a massive tsunami. It doesn't matter how noble his intentions are - he's playing god, which invalidates any form of justification for his actions, since he's robbing everybody of their inalienable rights. You could have him cackle madly, chew scenery and graphically rape babies and it wouldn't increase my desire to take him down any more - his power has dwarfed his character completely. He was more interesting when he was a powerful mysoginist instead of an unmatchably intelligent, unstoppable god-king who we can't touch and probably knows what we're doing right now regardless of our scrying invisibility and is letting us do our thing because it furthers his entirely too complicated plans. Does that explain my position on Rael a bit? He's been dehumanized by his power. I can go into more detail across the whole tier list if there's anything else you'd like to know about. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SovietOmega 03/14/12 12:01:00 AM #133:	Just you wait until we discover Rael is super weak against bunnies, kan. Forget and her stories will save the day! -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out <cite>SovietOmega posted [p:887256] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Just you wait until we discover Rael is super weak against bunnies, kan. Forget and her stories will save the day! -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/14/12 12:03:00 AM #134:	*KanzarisKelshen posted...* The current Rael is a force of nature. With so much power at his disposal, he's ceased to be someone I can relate to in any way - he's just a threat that needs to be exterminated, stopped and contained. Like a massive tsunami. It doesn't matter how noble his intentions are - he's playing god, which invalidates any form of justification for his actions, since he's robbing everybody of their inalienable rights. You could have him cackle madly, chew scenery and graphically rape babies and it wouldn't increase my desire to take him down any more - his power has dwarfed his character completely. He was more interesting when he was a powerful mysoginist instead of an unmatchably intelligent, unstoppable god-king. Does that explain my position on Rael a bit? He's been dehumanized by his power. I can go into more detail across the whole tier list if there's anything else you'd like to know about. The party isn't incapable of harming Rael - just not directly. You've stolen his greatest prize and are going after a powerful artifact. He's obviously ludicrously more powerful than the party, but he's meant to be unstoppable if you try to fight him in any kind of direct manner. I suppose I see your point, though. While this will inevitably be dealt with as the party grows in power, I must tell you that part of the reason I created Learrette was to give Rael a presence without putting the party in a position where it can't win. That said, could you explain your rankings of Burson, Tevaline, and Dubs? Dubs in particular is almost a joke character to me... -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887257] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> KanzarisKelshen posted...The current Rael is a force of nature. With so much power at his disposal, he's ceased to be someone I can relate to in any way - he's just a threat that needs to be exterminated, stopped and contained. Like a massive tsunami. It doesn't matter how noble his intentions are - he's playing god, which invalidates any form of justification for his actions, since he's robbing everybody of their inalienable rights. You could have him cackle madly, chew scenery and graphically rape babies and it wouldn't increase my desire to take him down any more - his power has dwarfed his character completely. He was more interesting when he was a powerful mysoginist instead of an unmatchably intelligent, unstoppable god-king. Does that explain my position on Rael a bit? He's been dehumanized by his power. I can go into more detail across the whole tier list if there's anything else you'd like to know about.The party isn't incapable of harming Rael - just not directly. You've stolen his greatest prize and are going after a powerful artifact. He's obviously ludicrously more powerful than the party, but he's meant to be unstoppable if you try to fight him in any kind of direct manner. I suppose I see your point, though. While this will inevitably be dealt with as the party grows in power, I must tell you that part of the reason I created Learrette was to give Rael a presence without putting the party in a position where it can't win.That said, could you explain your rankings of Burson, Tevaline, and Dubs? Dubs in particular is almost a joke character to me... -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/14/12 12:26:00 AM #135:	From: Anagram \| #134 *KanzarisKelshen posted...* The current Rael is a force of nature. With so much power at his disposal, he's ceased to be someone I can relate to in any way - he's just a threat that needs to be exterminated, stopped and contained. Like a massive tsunami. It doesn't matter how noble his intentions are - he's playing god, which invalidates any form of justification for his actions, since he's robbing everybody of their inalienable rights. You could have him cackle madly, chew scenery and graphically rape babies and it wouldn't increase my desire to take him down any more - his power has dwarfed his character completely. He was more interesting when he was a powerful mysoginist instead of an unmatchably intelligent, unstoppable god-king. Does that explain my position on Rael a bit? He's been dehumanized by his power. I can go into more detail across the whole tier list if there's anything else you'd like to know about. The party isn't incapable of harming Rael - just not directly. You've stolen his greatest prize and are going after a powerful artifact. He's obviously ludicrously more powerful than the party, but he's meant to be unstoppable if you try to fight him in any kind of direct manner. I suppose I see your point, though. While this will inevitably be dealt with as the party grows in power, I must tell you that part of the reason I created Learrette was to give Rael a presence without putting the party in a position where it can't win. That said, could you explain your rankings of Burson, Tevaline, and Dubs? Dubs in particular is almost a joke character to me... Just to clarify, it feels to me like we can't harm Rael at all, either directly or indirectly. It's not that we couldn't inconvenience him, but at the end of the day, that is all we can do - annoy him. We don't have the power to actually hurt Rael in any meaningful way. None of us are skilled enough orators to make a company of Raelites desert him. None of us are clever enough to unravel even a teeny tiny portion of his plan and force him to adapt, nor are the plot hooks in place for it. And none of us are good enough at fighting to go and beat up somebody like Queen or Winter. You see what I mean, yes? Anybody who matters, either because it's a ton of people or because they're very strong, are completely out of our range. You have to keep sending us NEW enemies to face because the ones we know would mop the floor with us. Maybe you haven't noticed it, Ana, but I have. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887258] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: Anagram \| #134KanzarisKelshen posted...The current Rael is a force of nature. With so much power at his disposal, he's ceased to be someone I can relate to in any way - he's just a threat that needs to be exterminated, stopped and contained. Like a massive tsunami. It doesn't matter how noble his intentions are - he's playing god, which invalidates any form of justification for his actions, since he's robbing everybody of their inalienable rights. You could have him cackle madly, chew scenery and graphically rape babies and it wouldn't increase my desire to take him down any more - his power has dwarfed his character completely. He was more interesting when he was a powerful mysoginist instead of an unmatchably intelligent, unstoppable god-king. Does that explain my position on Rael a bit? He's been dehumanized by his power. I can go into more detail across the whole tier list if there's anything else you'd like to know about.The party isn't incapable of harming Rael - just not directly. You've stolen his greatest prize and are going after a powerful artifact. He's obviously ludicrously more powerful than the party, but he's meant to be unstoppable if you try to fight him in any kind of direct manner. I suppose I see your point, though. While this will inevitably be dealt with as the party grows in power, I must tell you that part of the reason I created Learrette was to give Rael a presence without putting the party in a position where it can't win.That said, could you explain your rankings of Burson, Tevaline, and Dubs? Dubs in particular is almost a joke character to me...Just to clarify, it feels to me like we can't harm Rael at all, either directly or indirectly. It's not that we couldn't inconvenience him, but at the end of the day, that is all we can do - annoy him. We don't have the power to actually hurt Rael in any meaningful way. None of us are skilled enough orators to make a company of Raelites desert him. None of us are clever enough to unravel even a teeny tiny portion of his plan and force him to adapt, nor are the plot hooks in place for it. And none of us are good enough at fighting to go and beat up somebody like Queen or Winter. You see what I mean, yes? Anybody who matters, either because it's a ton of people or because they're very strong, are completely out of our range. You have to keep sending us NEW enemies to face because the ones we know would mop the floor with us. Maybe you haven't noticed it, Ana, but I have. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/14/12 12:34:00 AM #136:	As for those particular characters... Dubs: Because I'm really interested in where Quentyn can take her character. Right now, she's practically a blank slate - she doesn't know how to do anything but dance, and doesn't have a proper name either. The possibilities of what Quentyn could do excite my imagination. Maybe something like My Fair Lady but with a happier end, for instance? Tevaline: The Huntsman is a very compelling character. Maybe it's a lucky accident, but she's made a bunch of points that Valerian doesn't have a morally superior answer to...and yet, it hasn't diminished him, as a hero. She's given me a chance to have Val give completely honest and sincere, selfish answers, that still manage to make him be more noble than he was before the conversation. It lets me define him as a hero, to give him stronger beliefs and an ethos to follow, which is something that I appreciate, because I really want Valerian to finish the campaign as a Good Man, someone people naturally trust and who they rely on, but right now he isn't and he knows as much. There's also the fact that I like little redemption arcs, simply - it's always fun to match wits and ideas with the minions of the mages, and see if we can get through their fanaticism to make them see the emptiness of their lives and yearn for something more, something more fulfilling. Burson: Burson just doesn't do it for me. I don't know why, but he doesn't pack any punch as a villain - he's small fry, but not in a cool way (like the way we really wanted to beat Sonya because she was a villain who was on our level and she was awesomely despicable and vile). Instead, he just feels like somebody you stick a pointy stick into and move on. He doesn't have enough charisma to carry an arc, at least not at the moment. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887259] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> As for those particular characters...Dubs: Because I'm really interested in where Quentyn can take her character. Right now, she's practically a blank slate - she doesn't know how to do anything but dance, and doesn't have a proper name either. The possibilities of what Quentyn could do excite my imagination. Maybe something like My Fair Lady but with a happier end, for instance?Tevaline: The Huntsman is a very compelling character. Maybe it's a lucky accident, but she's made a bunch of points that Valerian doesn't have a morally superior answer to...and yet, it hasn't diminished him, as a hero. She's given me a chance to have Val give completely honest and sincere, selfish answers, that still manage to make him be more noble than he was before the conversation. It lets me define him as a hero, to give him stronger beliefs and an ethos to follow, which is something that I appreciate, because I really want Valerian to finish the campaign as a Good Man, someone people naturally trust and who they rely on, but right now he isn't and he knows as much. There's also the fact that I like little redemption arcs, simply - it's always fun to match wits and ideas with the minions of the mages, and see if we can get through their fanaticism to make them see the emptiness of their lives and yearn for something more, something more fulfilling.Burson: Burson just doesn't do it for me. I don't know why, but he doesn't pack any punch as a villain - he's small fry, but not in a cool way (like the way we really wanted to beat Sonya because she was a villain who was on our level and she was awesomely despicable and vile). Instead, he just feels like somebody you stick a pointy stick into and move on. He doesn't have enough charisma to carry an arc, at least not at the moment. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/14/12 12:34:00 AM #137:	*KanzarisKelshen posted...* Just to clarify, it feels to me like we can't harm Rael at all, either directly or indirectly. It's not that we couldn't inconvenience him, but at the end of the day, that is all we can do - annoy him. We don't have the power to actually hurt Rael in any meaningful way. None of us are skilled enough orators to make a company of Raelites desert him. None of us are clever enough to unravel even a teeny tiny portion of his plan and force him to adapt, nor are the plot hooks in place for it. And none of us are good enough at fighting to go and beat up somebody like Queen or Winter. You see what I mean, yes? Anybody who matters, either because it's a ton of people or because they're very strong, are completely out of our range. You have to keep sending us NEW enemies to face because the ones we know would mop the floor with us. Maybe you haven't noticed it, Ana, but I have. While you can't beat Queen, the party could definitely beat Winter, and I suspect that you could hold even Queen off for a few rounds before being inevitably defeated. If you meant Vivi or Ephestral, that's... more accurate. I feel like the party is only a bit away from being able to compete with Rael's mid-level minions like Vivi, if not necessarily directly then at least still "beating" them, so just hold on a bit, I guess. ... And the only new enemies I've sent at you since the Fake Universe arc are the Learrettes, Castor, and the Huntsman? But okay, I'll work on this. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887260] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> KanzarisKelshen posted...Just to clarify, it feels to me like we can't harm Rael at all, either directly or indirectly. It's not that we couldn't inconvenience him, but at the end of the day, that is all we can do - annoy him. We don't have the power to actually hurt Rael in any meaningful way. None of us are skilled enough orators to make a company of Raelites desert him. None of us are clever enough to unravel even a teeny tiny portion of his plan and force him to adapt, nor are the plot hooks in place for it. And none of us are good enough at fighting to go and beat up somebody like Queen or Winter. You see what I mean, yes? Anybody who matters, either because it's a ton of people or because they're very strong, are completely out of our range. You have to keep sending us NEW enemies to face because the ones we know would mop the floor with us. Maybe you haven't noticed it, Ana, but I have.While you can't beat Queen, the party could definitely beat Winter, and I suspect that you could hold even Queen off for a few rounds before being inevitably defeated. If you meant Vivi or Ephestral, that's... more accurate. I feel like the party is only a bit away from being able to compete with Rael's mid-level minions like Vivi, if not necessarily directly then at least still "beating" them, so just hold on a bit, I guess.... And the only new enemies I've sent at you since the Fake Universe arc are the Learrettes, Castor, and the Huntsman? But okay, I'll work on this. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/14/12 12:37:00 AM #138:	From: Anagram \| #137 *KanzarisKelshen posted...* Just to clarify, it feels to me like we can't harm Rael at all, either directly or indirectly. It's not that we couldn't inconvenience him, but at the end of the day, that is all we can do - annoy him. We don't have the power to actually hurt Rael in any meaningful way. None of us are skilled enough orators to make a company of Raelites desert him. None of us are clever enough to unravel even a teeny tiny portion of his plan and force him to adapt, nor are the plot hooks in place for it. And none of us are good enough at fighting to go and beat up somebody like Queen or Winter. You see what I mean, yes? Anybody who matters, either because it's a ton of people or because they're very strong, are completely out of our range. You have to keep sending us NEW enemies to face because the ones we know would mop the floor with us. Maybe you haven't noticed it, Ana, but I have. While you can't beat Queen, the party could definitely beat Winter, and I suspect that you could hold even Queen off for a few rounds before being inevitably defeated. If you meant Vivi or Ephestral, that's... more accurate. I feel like the party is only a bit away from being able to compete with Rael's mid-level minions like Vivi, if not necessarily directly then at least still "beating" them, so just hold on a bit, I guess. ... And the only new enemies I've sent at you since the Fake Universe arc are the Learrettes, Castor, and the Huntsman? But okay, I'll work on this. We can? I definitely haven't gotten that impression. Out of everything I've seen so far, the general sentiment has been 'talk with these characters, but fight them or oppose them and your ass is grass'. They all feel outrageously untouchable - like Winter shows up and she has this big damn ship that can bombard us into oblivion. Sure, maybe we can beat her in single combat, but then we die, and what's the point? PS: And Vivi feels entirely out of our league, period. Somebody who could Fiat us into unconsciousness is flatly unbeatable right now. This goes double because she has the tools to avoid any traps we prepare for her. PPS: The list of enemies kinda proves my point, too - think about it, what fights have we had since the pocket universe, not counting the battle with Han's Remnant? Learrette, Castor, the Huntsman, and Sonya. With the exception of a single enemy, all new ones who you had to send because nobody we know is on the level. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887261] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: Anagram \| #137KanzarisKelshen posted...Just to clarify, it feels to me like we can't harm Rael at all, either directly or indirectly. It's not that we couldn't inconvenience him, but at the end of the day, that is all we can do - annoy him. We don't have the power to actually hurt Rael in any meaningful way. None of us are skilled enough orators to make a company of Raelites desert him. None of us are clever enough to unravel even a teeny tiny portion of his plan and force him to adapt, nor are the plot hooks in place for it. And none of us are good enough at fighting to go and beat up somebody like Queen or Winter. You see what I mean, yes? Anybody who matters, either because it's a ton of people or because they're very strong, are completely out of our range. You have to keep sending us NEW enemies to face because the ones we know would mop the floor with us. Maybe you haven't noticed it, Ana, but I have.While you can't beat Queen, the party could definitely beat Winter, and I suspect that you could hold even Queen off for a few rounds before being inevitably defeated. If you meant Vivi or Ephestral, that's... more accurate. I feel like the party is only a bit away from being able to compete with Rael's mid-level minions like Vivi, if not necessarily directly then at least still "beating" them, so just hold on a bit, I guess.... And the only new enemies I've sent at you since the Fake Universe arc are the Learrettes, Castor, and the Huntsman? But okay, I'll work on this.We can? I definitely haven't gotten that impression. Out of everything I've seen so far, the general sentiment has been 'talk with these characters, but fight them or oppose them and your ass is grass'. They all feel outrageously untouchable - like Winter shows up and she has this big damn ship that can bombard us into oblivion. Sure, maybe we can beat her in single combat, but then we die, and what's the point?PS: And Vivi feels entirely out of our league, period. Somebody who could Fiat us into unconsciousness is flatly unbeatable right now. This goes double because she has the tools to avoid any traps we prepare for her.PPS: The list of enemies kinda proves my point, too - think about it, what fights have we had since the pocket universe, not counting the battle with Han's Remnant? Learrette, Castor, the Huntsman, and Sonya. With the exception of a single enemy, all new ones who you had to send because nobody we know is on the level. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SovietOmega 03/14/12 12:53:00 AM #139:	To be fair, introducing a squad of villains that can't be beat and having to face new enemies to rise to the old's level is a common enough trope that this doesn't disturb me as much as it might you, kan. Either we wrap up the Rael story by cheapening the power levels involved and move on, or fight new people to rise up to their level. The latter course seems the most viable as it is a big Twilight out there. Though, considering the company the party keeps and things the party does, it would be impossible to completely deflect backlash from the upper echelon of Rael, making the number of occasions involving 'people we can not hope to beat' still a pretty significant number. -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out <cite>SovietOmega posted [p:887262] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> To be fair, introducing a squad of villains that can't be beat and having to face new enemies to rise to the old's level is a common enough trope that this doesn't disturb me as much as it might you, kan. Either we wrap up the Rael story by cheapening the power levels involved and move on, or fight new people to rise up to their level. The latter course seems the most viable as it is a big Twilight out there.Though, considering the company the party keeps and things the party does, it would be impossible to completely deflect backlash from the upper echelon of Rael, making the number of occasions involving 'people we can not hope to beat' still a pretty significant number. -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/14/12 12:54:00 AM #140:	You could take Winter party-against-her, but ship-to-ship, yeah, she was more powerful. I had planned for you guys to fight her when you escaped the Fake Universe, but you avoided the battle entirely. And while it's true most of the enemies since the Fake Universe were new... so what? The Furies were disbanded and there were no other antagonists from the first arc except Rael and Ephestral. It's not like Learrette came out of nowhere, she's connected to two existing antagonists. But okay, I'll work on this, I'm sorry if you guys don't feel like you can make an impact on the world. On a completely unrelated note, here's a picture of Ashara. Konamy is now the only character of note with no picture, I think. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887263] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> You could take Winter party-against-her, but ship-to-ship, yeah, she was more powerful. I had planned for you guys to fight her when you escaped the Fake Universe, but you avoided the battle entirely.And while it's true most of the enemies since the Fake Universe were new... so what? The Furies were disbanded and there were no other antagonists from the first arc except Rael and Ephestral. It's not like Learrette came out of nowhere, she's connected to two existing antagonists. But okay, I'll work on this, I'm sorry if you guys don't feel like you can make an impact on the world.On a completely unrelated note, here's a picture of Ashara. Konamy is now the only character of note with no picture, I think. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/14/12 12:57:00 AM #141:	CPU: Miss R - Fine Eren - Okay but could be better Forget - Don't like it for her, sorry Winter - Not a bad song, but kind of inappropriate Sonya - Really good Rael - The first four seconds are incredibly good, but the rest of the song doesn't really fit him Vivi - Honestly, I kind of imagined her as a little softer and relaxing than that Samantha - Very good Calmarie - Very good Teracor - Very good Konamy - Perfect Ephestral - Okay Burson - It's okay, but I suppose there's nothing really to do with Burson here Ashara - Not really feeling it Rogdar - Perfect Dubs - Pretty good Atharathes - Perfect Shursh - I imagined something a little more primal Huntsman - Not feeling it, sorry Learrette - It's a good song title, but I'm not sure I like this for her. I imagined something more girly but still very sinister Fanas - It's weird, but I'm not sure it's appropriate Queen - Pretty good, though I imagined something more regal Aluxial - I don't really like it, but I can't explain why, sorry >_> Marial - It's okay, but it could be better Ederax and Hillalee - Good -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887264] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> CPU:Miss R - FineEren - Okay but could be betterForget - Don't like it for her, sorryWinter - Not a bad song, but kind of inappropriateSonya - Really goodRael - The first four seconds are incredibly good, but the rest of the song doesn't really fit himVivi - Honestly, I kind of imagined her as a little softer and relaxing than thatSamantha - Very goodCalmarie - Very goodTeracor - Very goodKonamy - PerfectEphestral - OkayBurson - It's okay, but I suppose there's nothing really to do with Burson hereAshara - Not really feeling itRogdar - PerfectDubs - Pretty goodAtharathes - PerfectShursh - I imagined something a little more primalHuntsman - Not feeling it, sorryLearrette - It's a good song title, but I'm not sure I like this for her. I imagined something more girly but still very sinisterFanas - It's weird, but I'm not sure it's appropriateQueen - Pretty good, though I imagined something more regalAluxial - I don't really like it, but I can't explain why, sorry >_>Marial - It's okay, but it could be betterEderax and Hillalee - Good -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/14/12 1:06:00 AM #142:	From: SovietOmega \| #139 To be fair, introducing a squad of villains that can't be beat and having to face new enemies to rise to the old's level is a common enough trope that this doesn't disturb me as much as it might you, kan. Either we wrap up the Rael story by cheapening the power levels involved and move on, or fight new people to rise up to their level. The latter course seems the most viable as it is a big Twilight out there. Though, considering the company the party keeps and things the party does, it would be impossible to completely deflect backlash from the upper echelon of Rael, making the number of occasions involving 'people we can not hope to beat' still a pretty significant number. This doesn't bother me, either. The annoying part is the constant presence of those upper-echelon threats. When you regularly come across them session-in, session-out, it really drives home just how minuscule and worthless you are and how we're really just killing time until we've scored ten more levels and can maybe beat the weakest of them. From: Anagram \| #140 You could take Winter party-against-her, but ship-to-ship, yeah, she was more powerful. I had planned for you guys to fight her when you escaped the Fake Universe, but you avoided the battle entirely. And while it's true most of the enemies since the Fake Universe were new... so what? The Furies were disbanded and there were no other antagonists from the first arc except Rael and Ephestral. It's not like Learrette came out of nowhere, she's connected to two existing antagonists. But okay, I'll work on this, I'm sorry if you guys don't feel like you can make an impact on the world. Just to clarify, I don't mind that we face new NPCs, and in fact I encourage it - new threats keep us on our toes, and gives us enemies to beat. My issue is mostly that...how do I put this...politically, we're already toying with the highest echelon of foes - in-universe, people might not know us as saviors and heroes (and in fact it's better that they don't because we'd be instantly killed the minute we gained notoriety), but we still regularly chat with the monsters and destroyers of the world. But that's all we do - chat. Powerwise, we're bottom-feeders and will remain as bottom-feeders until we're almost at max level - when your opposition has scores of dudes who are at the shatter-mountains-eat-dragons-for-breakfast level, being the guys who are stil at the hypnotize-some-dudes-swing-sword-really-well level makes you feel like smalltime. If Rael's peoples weren't constantly up in our grill, dealing with new and lesser threats wouldn't be a problem - there's ways to keep our mind on the Raelites without having them drop by to say hi every session, like finding the ruins of a prosperous city that was demolished by Rael's army while fighting Omna, or stopping an encroaching army of Raelites through a tenacious defense, or whatever. Right now, it feels like we're Little Leaguers hanging out with Babe Ruth and desperately trying to compete, or casual golfers who are stuck trying to do better than Tiger Woods. I am by no means advocating for just forgetting that our current foes exist, but it's kinda awkward to be in a position where it feels like a random barman could probably be a level-appropriate Solo fight for us and everybody who actually matters could kill us with an unlucky blink. PS: Fighting a solo barman is actually a really cool idea, come to think of it. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887265] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: SovietOmega \| #139To be fair, introducing a squad of villains that can't be beat and having to face new enemies to rise to the old's level is a common enough trope that this doesn't disturb me as much as it might you, kan. Either we wrap up the Rael story by cheapening the power levels involved and move on, or fight new people to rise up to their level. The latter course seems the most viable as it is a big Twilight out there.Though, considering the company the party keeps and things the party does, it would be impossible to completely deflect backlash from the upper echelon of Rael, making the number of occasions involving 'people we can not hope to beat' still a pretty significant number.This doesn't bother me, either. The annoying part is the constant presence of those upper-echelon threats. When you regularly come across them session-in, session-out, it really drives home just how minuscule and worthless you are and how we're really just killing time until we've scored ten more levels and can maybe beat the weakest of them.From: Anagram \| #140You could take Winter party-against-her, but ship-to-ship, yeah, she was more powerful. I had planned for you guys to fight her when you escaped the Fake Universe, but you avoided the battle entirely.And while it's true most of the enemies since the Fake Universe were new... so what? The Furies were disbanded and there were no other antagonists from the first arc except Rael and Ephestral. It's not like Learrette came out of nowhere, she's connected to two existing antagonists. But okay, I'll work on this, I'm sorry if you guys don't feel like you can make an impact on the world.Just to clarify, I don't mind that we face new NPCs, and in fact I encourage it - new threats keep us on our toes, and gives us enemies to beat. My issue is mostly that...how do I put this...politically, we're already toying with the highest echelon of foes - in-universe, people might not know us as saviors and heroes (and in fact it's better that they don't because we'd be instantly killed the minute we gained notoriety), but we still regularly chat with the monsters and destroyers of the world. But that's all we do - chat. Powerwise, we're bottom-feeders and will remain as bottom-feeders until we're almost at max level - when your opposition has scores of dudes who are at the shatter-mountains-eat-dragons-for-breakfast level, being the guys who are stil at the hypnotize-some-dudes-swing-sword-really-well level makes you feel like smalltime. If Rael's peoples weren't constantly up in our grill, dealing with new and lesser threats wouldn't be a problem - there's ways to keep our mind on the Raelites without having them drop by to say hi every session, like finding the ruins of a prosperous city that was demolished by Rael's army while fighting Omna, or stopping an encroaching army of Raelites through a tenacious defense, or whatever. Right now, it feels like we're Little Leaguers hanging out with Babe Ruth and desperately trying to compete, or casual golfers who are stuck trying to do better than Tiger Woods. I am by no means advocating for just forgetting that our current foes exist, but it's kinda awkward to be in a position where it feels like a random barman could probably be a level-appropriate Solo fight for us and everybody who actually matters could kill us with an unlucky blink.PS: Fighting a solo barman is actually a really cool idea, come to think of it. -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SovietOmega 03/14/12 1:14:00 AM #143:	PS: Fighting a solo barman is actually a really cool idea, come to think of it. "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BEER ELEMENTALS? WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WILL PAY IN BLOOD!" -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out <cite>SovietOmega posted [p:887266] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> PS: Fighting a solo barman is actually a really cool idea, come to think of it."WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BEER ELEMENTALS? WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WILL PAY IN BLOOD!" -- There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anagram 03/14/12 1:15:00 AM #144:	Alright, alright, I'll take all of this under advisement. I hope to make this all work for everyone, but, uh, Rael, Ephestral, and Vivi haven't shown up outside of an RP session in quite some time, and Queen hasn't shown up in forever. Aside from Omna, those are the only four characters established to be in "you'd definitely lose to these characters on their worst day" tier. With all of that said, I still look forward to Thursday's session, I'm hoping some new ideas I've had will work out. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:887267] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Alright, alright, I'll take all of this under advisement. I hope to make this all work for everyone, but, uh, Rael, Ephestral, and Vivi haven't shown up outside of an RP session in quite some time, and Queen hasn't shown up in forever. Aside from Omna, those are the only four characters established to be in "you'd definitely lose to these characters on their worst day" tier.With all of that said, I still look forward to Thursday's session, I'm hoping some new ideas I've had will work out. -- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig.Started: July 6, 2005 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 03/14/12 1:15:00 AM #145:	From: SovietOmega \| #143 PS: Fighting a solo barman is actually a really cool idea, come to think of it. "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BEER ELEMENTALS? WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WILL PAY IN BLOOD!" Super high tier bonus boss: -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:887268] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> From: SovietOmega \| #143PS: Fighting a solo barman is actually a really cool idea, come to think of it."WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BEER ELEMENTALS? WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS WILL PAY IN BLOOD!"Super high tier bonus boss: -- Twostuck, Homestuck RPG: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/62168402 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tirofog 03/14/12 2:13:00 AM #146:	Long overdue Quentyn's Wishlist: Skald's Armor +2 or +3 (Level 13) - PHB2 Feymind Armor +3 (14) - AV Periapt of Cascading Health +2 (10) - D369 Ring of Mental Power (14) - PHB3 Quickening Staff +3 (14) - AV Cask of Liquid Gold (3) - AV2 Silence Warded Room (for our prisoners) (4) - AV2 Teleportation Disk (14) - AV2 Fragrance of Authority <_< (12) - AV -- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tiroalecjpgap.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tirofogjpgdy.jpg <cite>Tirofog posted [p:887269] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Long overdue Quentyn's Wishlist:Skald's Armor +2 or +3 (Level 13) - PHB2Feymind Armor +3 (14) - AVPeriapt of Cascading Health +2 (10) - D369Ring of Mental Power (14) - PHB3Quickening Staff +3 (14) - AVCask of Liquid Gold (3) - AV2Silence Warded Room (for our prisoners) (4) - AV2Teleportation Disk (14) - AV2Fragrance of Authority <_< (12) - AV -- http://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tiroalecjpgap.jpghttp://img.imgcake.com/drakeryn/tirofogjpgdy.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/14/12 6:31:00 AM #147:	I don't mind the superpowerful NPCs as much because at least we're out of the islands. It was a little annoying there that we had basically no presence in the end, and that we couldn't possibly save the eladrin or elves (drow too? never saw what happened with them). We've had more impact ever since the pocket universe, which I think is satisfying. Besides, as long as Rael is the main villain there isn't a whole lot that can be done about him being an untouchable threat. The campaign wasn't really presented as conventionally heroic anyway. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:887270] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> I don't mind the superpowerful NPCs as much because at least we're out of the islands. It was a little annoying there that we had basically no presence in the end, and that we couldn't possibly save the eladrin or elves (drow too? never saw what happened with them). We've had more impact ever since the pocket universe, which I think is satisfying.Besides, as long as Rael is the main villain there isn't a whole lot that can be done about him being an untouchable threat. The campaign wasn't really presented as conventionally heroic anyway. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IhatethisCPU 03/14/12 6:52:00 AM #148:	Doing what I can, but not particularly confident in these: Forget - Winter - Rael - Vivi - (This I can work with.) Ash: Shursh - Huntsman - Learrette - (...Kinda figured that might be the case, but sinister kinda requires ya to be able to take the subject seriously, ya know? Hmm.) Fanas - (She got maybe five minutes of screentime before the rest of the group insisted we scarper for the Vortex, so I'm not completely sure where to go from here.) Aluxial - -- "If you own this thing you own you will own it!" <cite>IhatethisCPU posted [p:887271] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Doing what I can, but not particularly confident in these:Forget - Winter - Rael - Vivi - (This I can work with.) Ash: Shursh - Huntsman - Learrette - (...Kinda figured that might be the case, but sinister kinda requires ya to be able to take the subject seriously, ya know? Hmm.) Fanas - (She got maybe five minutes of screentime before the rest of the group insisted we scarper for the Vortex, so I'm not completely sure where to go from here.) Aluxial - -- "If you own this thing you own you will own it!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Accel ACE 03/14/12 7:00:00 AM #149:	*Anagram posted...* What would her personality be? I doubt she could bro it up like Vance, but I'd like to hear it. I was thinking of playing a more serious, "Get the mission done" unaligned sort of character that'll do the nasty things that sometimes need to be done and not look back. Loyalty to comrades, but stepping on other people if need be to get the job done. So, renegade Shepard. -- *Accel* (name pending) It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? <cite>Accel ACE posted [p:887272] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Anagram posted...What would her personality be? I doubt she could bro it up like Vance, but I'd like to hear it.I was thinking of playing a more serious, "Get the mission done" unaligned sort of character that'll do the nasty things that sometimes need to be done and not look back. Loyalty to comrades, but stepping on other people if need be to get the job done.So, renegade Shepard. -- Accel (name pending)It's from Power Stone 2, how does nobody know this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sceptilesolarbeam 03/14/12 7:17:00 AM #150:	Sounds good. I, personally, am attempting to get Brona into things more lately. I have some hopes. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick <cite>Sceptilesolarbeam posted [p:887273] in Anagram... [t:62187525]...</cite> <quote> Sounds good.I, personally, am attempting to get Brona into things more lately. I have some hopes. -- "As the size of an explosion increases, the number of social situations it is incapable of solving approaches zero." -Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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