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Icon Tang
03/17/12 9:55:00 PM
#1:


man, what a charming show; katara rocks. Not sure why I waited so long to watch this!

starting episode 2 right now

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Grand Kirby
03/17/12 9:56:00 PM
#2:


Good show.

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BIGPUN9999
03/17/12 9:56:00 PM
#3:


oh you've never seen it?

its a really damn good show!

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Icon Tang
03/17/12 9:58:00 PM
#4:


you're one to talk - you just started breaking bad!

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Natwaf_akidna
03/17/12 9:58:00 PM
#5:


You're in for a treat!

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SovietOmega
03/17/12 9:59:00 PM
#6:


pretty nice show. starts a bit slow, but once it gets going, it gets surprisingly good.

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tereziWright
03/17/12 9:59:00 PM
#7:


An excellent series.

Is this you starting things you've said you were gonna watch/read but never got around to?

If so, you should get on HS next.

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Shoenin_Kakashi
03/17/12 10:00:00 PM
#8:


Starts off slow but passable, gets quite good, ends bad.

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WazzupGenius00
03/17/12 10:43:00 PM
#9:


From: Icon Tang | #001
katara rocks.


lol

great show though

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AlecTrevelyan006
03/17/12 10:45:00 PM
#10:


First season has some filler but is mostly good.

Then it gets all good starting late in the first season.

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GenesisSaga
03/17/12 11:51:00 PM
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Katara rocks now maybe. Then you're introduced to some other female characters that are so ridiculously cooler than Katara that she seems mediocre and boring in comparison. She's still okay though.

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CalvinbalI
03/17/12 11:55:00 PM
#12:


Woo Katara, she gets way too much hate. The entire main cast is pretty superb.

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foolm0ron
03/17/12 11:59:00 PM
#13:


From: Icon Tang | #001
katara rocks


what the ****

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iiicon
03/18/12 12:05:00 AM
#15:


From: tereziWright | #007
Is this you starting things you've said you were gonna watch/read but never got around to?

If so, you should get on HS next.


I tried that! Maybe some other time I'll get hooked.

From: WazzupGenius00 | #009
lol


insightful comment as always.

From: GenesisSaga | #011
Katara rocks now maybe. Then you're introduced to some other female characters that are so ridiculously cooler than Katara that she seems mediocre and boring in comparison. She's still okay though.


What? More interesting characters don't make interesting characters less interesting - that makes no sense.

From: CalvinbalI | #012
Woo Katara, she gets way too much hate. The entire main cast is pretty superb.


It's strange; I admit that I'm only three episodes in (and made that comment after just one) and will readily defer authority on this subject to well-versed fans, but in my limited time with the show, I've learned that she's an intelligent, brave, and humble character voiced by an emotive actor. What is there to hate?


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iiicon
03/18/12 12:07:00 AM
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From: foolm0ron | #014
Also, watchthrough topic. This is the best animated show EVER. Or at least, the best sequential, plot-based animated show. You have no idea how good it gets later.


There are a lot of good ones!


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iiicon
03/18/12 12:14:00 AM
#17:


"Where we're going you won't need pants" should be the tagline of this and every show.


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ZX_Lucian
03/18/12 12:18:00 AM
#18:


I just watched the first the first episode of Avatar.

/nostalgia

And when you see it....

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CalvinbalI
03/18/12 12:20:00 AM
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From: iiicon | #015
It's strange; I admit that I'm only three episodes in (and made that comment after just one) and will readily defer authority on this subject to well-versed fans, but in my limited time with the show, I've learned that she's an intelligent, brave, and humble character voiced by an emotive actor. What is there to hate?


There are a few episodes later in the series where she at times acts like how you can expect a 14 year old girl to act, and for many people this makes her The Worst Character Ever.

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Rad Link 5
03/18/12 12:29:00 AM
#20:


From: Natwaf_akidna | #005
You're in for a treat!


Hang on to your seat!

In my humble opinion, it's a show that starts out as merely "pretty good" and then escalates to incredible, and then keeps managing to outdo itself all the way through the end. So if you like it this much already, you should probably hire someone to collect the fragments of your brain before you continue any further.

From: iiicon | #015
What? More interesting characters don't make interesting characters less interesting - that makes no sense.


Less interesting characters can seem more interesting when they don't have much competition is what I think was trying to be communicated there.

From: CalvinbalI | #019
There are a few episodes later in the series where she at times acts like how you can expect a 14 year old girl to act, and for many people this makes her The Worst Character Ever.


I think fourteen year olds are annoying in real life, let alone in my serialized entertainment media.

If that makes me wrong, I don't want to be right.

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Grand Kirby
03/18/12 12:33:00 AM
#21:


From: iiicon | #015
It's strange; I admit that I'm only three episodes in (and made that comment after just one) and will readily defer authority on this subject to well-versed fans, but in my limited time with the show, I've learned that she's an intelligent, brave, and humble character voiced by an emotive actor. What is there to hate?


She does sort of devolve into a more annoying character later. It doesn't help that the show just loves her. She's almost always presented as the one who's the most righteous and great, even when she's acts in the most annoying ways.

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GenesisSaga
03/18/12 12:38:00 AM
#22:


Rad Link 5 posted...
What? More interesting characters don't make interesting characters less interesting - that makes no sense.
Less interesting characters can seem more interesting when they don't have much competition is what I think was trying to be communicated there.


That basically. What I'm trying to say is that I really doubt Katara's going to be anywhere near the top of your rankings when the entire cast is revealed and everyone has gotten a chance to develop.

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foolm0ron
03/18/12 12:42:00 AM
#23:


I mean one of the best things about the show is how insanely well the characters develop, so let's just let icon watch it and see how it goes

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Kotetsu534
03/18/12 12:46:00 AM
#24:


The other characters have plenty of immature moments (as well as Katara) but don't get nearly as much criticism for them.

Great series.

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iiicon
03/18/12 12:59:00 AM
#25:


From: Rad Link 5 | #020
Less interesting characters can seem more interesting when they don't have much competition is what I think was trying to be communicated there.


I am fully capable of determining whether a character is interesting regardless of how they compare to other characters. If I thought she was just alright, I'd say she's just alright. It's entirely possible that later situations may change my opinion on her, but we're not talking about that.

From: GenesisSaga | #022
That basically. What I'm trying to say is that I really doubt Katara's going to be anywhere near the top of your rankings when the entire cast is revealed and everyone has gotten a chance to develop.


That is a completely different sentiment. 'She is not as good as other characters' is not the same as 'other characters make her look dull.'

Anyway, episode four was cool. Sokka's stance on the capabilities of women changed far too quickly; there definitely should have been a scene between the embarrassment and his acceptance, but hey, 23 minute episodes.


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Rad Link 5
03/18/12 1:13:00 AM
#26:


From: iiicon | #025
I am fully capable of determining whether a character is interesting regardless of how they compare to other characters.


You'd be surprised how many insignificant things can influence a person's opinion without them noticing it.

No one's actually conscious of everything that goes into their view points.

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GenesisSaga
03/18/12 1:18:00 AM
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iiicon posted...
That is a completely different sentiment. 'She is not as good as other characters' is not the same as 'other characters make her look dull.'

They really do though.

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SovietOmega
03/18/12 1:29:00 AM
#28:


i seem to recall katara starting out strong but finishing decidedly average. nothing wrong with that, but other characters just end up eclipsing her.

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AlecTrevelyan006
03/18/12 8:44:00 AM
#29:


Less arguing, more icon watching Last Airbender.

Also, more Uncle Iroh.

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KamikazePotato
03/18/12 8:54:00 AM
#30:


Hey guys quit pseudo-spoiling stuff for him please.

Avatar is a great show. Season 1 is easily the worst, so if you already like it you should be good to go.

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03/18/12 9:50:00 AM
#31:


From: Rad Link 5 | #026
You'd be surprised how many insignificant things can influence a person's opinion without them noticing it.

No one's actually conscious of everything that goes into their view points.


And this has nothing to do with my ability to establish an opinion based on my observations.

From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #029
Also, more Uncle Iroh.


Dude has great taste in tea. But he probably hasn't been exposed to the best tea, so really, I should be saying he has pedestrian taste in tea.

From: KamikazePotato | #030
Hey guys quit pseudo-spoiling stuff for him please.

Avatar is a great show. Season 1 is easily the worst, so if you already like it you should be good to go.


There's no spoilers here! And the four episodes I've watched have been fine. The opening two-parter is great, and the other two episodes do a pretty good job setting the tone of the series. Is this a case of seasons 2 and 3 blowing 1 out of the water, or does 1 get weaker from here on in?

Guess I'll find out for myself - more Avatar after breakfast.


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WazzupGenius00
03/18/12 9:54:00 AM
#32:


there are a small handful of super-fillery episodes in season 1, that's the only real problem it has. Other seasons streamline things a lot more

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Vishje3000
03/18/12 9:58:00 AM
#33:


Ty Lee \o/
Uncle Iroh \o/
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Rad Link 5
03/18/12 10:49:00 AM
#34:


From: Tom Waits | #031
And this has nothing to do with my ability to establish an opinion based on my observations.


Yes it does.

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PokeStalker
03/18/12 10:55:00 AM
#35:


Tag

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foolm0ron
03/18/12 10:59:00 AM
#36:


Are we really having an argument about the validity of opinions?

I knew this board was really far up its own ass, but damn.

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Kotetsu534
03/18/12 11:00:00 AM
#37:


Season 2 arguably blows 1 out of the water. 3 is very up and down. 1 has some filler eps to come, but also a lot of great stuff (some it very very soon, so get back to it!).

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Rad Link 5
03/18/12 11:02:00 AM
#38:


From: foolm0ron | #036
Are we really having an argument about the validity of opinions?


Yes we are.

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CrimsonOcean
03/18/12 11:06:00 AM
#39:


Great show, great characters, good choice watching it man!

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iiicon
03/18/12 11:07:00 AM
#40:


Here's something fun - rather than doubting my agency, questioning whether I'm cognizant of my inherent biases, insinuating that characters are constantly competing inside my head and that, by extension, I am ignorant of other more compelling characters because I rather like Katara in the first couple episodes, you could not post. See how fun that is?

Episode five was alright. Guys love their cabbages.


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CokesZero
03/18/12 11:10:00 AM
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It's funny because Rad Link is wrong
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36Eagles10
03/18/12 11:11:00 AM
#42:


From: CalvinbalI | #019
There are a few episodes later in the series where she at times acts like how you can expect a 14 year old girl to act, and for many people this makes her The Worst Character Ever.


cough she is 16 cough. Or at least I always thought she was >_>

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iiicon
03/18/12 11:12:00 AM
#43:


i am now upset that i said rather twice in that post and can't edit it

bacon !!


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Rad Link 5
03/18/12 11:12:00 AM
#44:


From: CokesZero | #041
It's funny because Rad Link is wrong




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CalvinbalI
03/18/12 11:13:00 AM
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I'd say 1 is the weakest, as well. Not for any single major reason, just that everything generally gets better in the later seasons. The characters introduced later, both good guys and bad, really add a lot to the show. The action sequences just get better and better as the show goes along. The filler episodes are handled much more gracefully, and are pretty much never entirely filler. The main characters get more fleshed out and interesting.

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CalvinbalI
03/18/12 11:15:00 AM
#46:


From: 36Eagles10 | #042
cough she is 16 cough. Or at least I always thought she was >_>


Nah she's fourteen in the show. Says so in the Avatar wiki, at least.

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iiicon
03/18/12 11:15:00 AM
#47:


I like what I've seen of the antagonists. Hooray for sympathetic villains!

But they're no Gustavo Fring, so what's the f***ing point?!


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iiicon
03/18/12 11:19:00 AM
#48:


Isn't Aang, like, twelve? I'm totally basing that off of something other than his height, I swear.


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CrimsonOcean
03/18/12 11:19:00 AM
#49:


Aang is 12, Katara is 14, and I think Sokka is 16.

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WazzupGenius00
03/18/12 11:19:00 AM
#50:


she is, ignoring the fact that Aang is technically older because of the whole ice thing

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36Eagles10
03/18/12 11:25:00 AM
#51:


From: CalvinbalI | #046
Nah she's fourteen in the show. Says so in the Avatar wiki, at least.


oop nvm I was thinking of end and not begining I guess cause I thought Aang was 14 at the start >_>

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