Board 8 > didnt guitar hero 3 suck?

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TomNook7
03/24/12 10:25:00 PM
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or something

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DpObliVion
03/24/12 10:27:00 PM
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No


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Paratroopa1
03/24/12 10:28:00 PM
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That was solely my opinion and only mine. For everyone else it's great.
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Lopen
03/24/12 10:28:00 PM
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Guitar Hero 3 was fine if you didn't mind that they randomly threw notes in things for no reason. Anyone who complained about it stopped when Guitar Hero started becoming "half assed Rock Band" Hero anyway.

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azuarc
03/24/12 10:30:00 PM
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Guitar Hero 3 was a perfectly fine follow-up to GH2, which was still the best one in the series. It was only when they went to World Tour (GH4) that things started to suck, and even then the gameplay was fine; it was mostly just the menu stuffs that were horrid.

The only reason I can think of why someone would single out GH3 and say it sucked was because RB1 came out at the same time, which cut into the audience of Guitar Hero players considerably. People who play for fun would naturally prefer Rock Band, whereas people who played for challenge would prefer Guitar Hero 3.
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thundersheep
03/24/12 10:31:00 PM
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As an average player, I didn't find Expert to be nearly as fun as it was in GH2 or Rock Band, but the tracklist kicked some serious ass. I mean it was god damn incredible, and it's probably one of my favourite games of all-time just because of that.

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Paratroopa1
03/24/12 10:34:00 PM
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azuarc | Posted 3/24/2012 10:30:53 PM | message detail | quote
The only reason I can think of why someone would single out GH3 and say it sucked was because RB1 came out at the same time, which cut into the audience of Guitar Hero players considerably. People who play for fun would naturally prefer Rock Band, whereas people who played for challenge would prefer Guitar Hero 3.


Opposite for me actually. Rock Band had three things going for it in the challenge department - new instruments to learn, stricter timing windows, and DLC that came out pretty fast that was harder than almost anything GH3 offered. Challenge isn't really the reason I dislike GH3.
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CalvinbalI
03/24/12 10:34:00 PM
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I never liked GH3. I was a big fan or GH2 and Rock Band, but as someone who listens to a ton of music, and also plays instruments casually, I found GH3's mantra of "throw random button combinations at a song until it becomes difficult" to be a total turnoff.

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foolm0ron
03/24/12 10:46:00 PM
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GH3 was my first, and I thought it was really damn good. Really nice charts, smooth difficulty curve (for someone who started on easy then worked up to expert), good presentation and features.

World Tour was really really terrible, though. That was the game that made me realize how quickly and dramatically Activision could destroy a series after losing all the original developers (because for some reason I gave them the benefit of the doubt at first... prob cuz I still loved them from the THPS days).

And yeah, maybe it's just because I am not used to RB's rectangle notes and the non-clicking guitar, but RB seems like it has way harder timing. GH3 was famous for having suuuuuuper long hammer on timing, but I guess its strumming timing was more tight or something. I dunno, but I'm way better at GH than RB.

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agesboy
03/24/12 10:49:00 PM
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GH3's the only one I played, but it was pretty awesome. Goddamn amazing soundtrack, I found a bunch of bands I'd never heard of like Die Toten Hosen that are now among my favorite.

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DaruniaTheGoron
03/24/12 10:55:00 PM
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GH3 had the best track list bar none.

Also I don't care about a few random notes. GH1 and 2 are too easy and boring.

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DuxLeekSlap
03/24/12 11:02:00 PM
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GH3 is my favorite one. I really liked the track list, and challenge wise I think it was a lot better than GH2.

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OctilIery
03/25/12 12:38:00 AM
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It was really good other than a couple poorly made charts.

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__Smurf__
03/25/12 5:49:00 AM
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It was the peak of instrument games popularity and drew some hate from the "I liked these before they were cool" crowd.

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Menji76
03/25/12 5:56:00 AM
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I didn't like it. My friend got 3 and I got 2 at the same time when we both got into it. I could never play with him on 3 so we always played 2.

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azuarc
03/25/12 8:09:00 AM
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Paratroopa: Opposite for me actually. Rock Band had three things going for it in the challenge department - new instruments to learn, stricter timing windows, and DLC that came out pretty fast that was harder than almost anything GH3 offered. Challenge isn't really the reason I dislike GH3.

New instruments: true, but apples to oranges. If you want to compare the two, then it's about the guitar. Besides, vocals aren't anything you "learn," and bass is just an easy version of guitar in RB, so that really just meant drums.
Stricter timing windows: I can't argue that. Making the transition is difficult, however...
Hard DLC: There may have been some seriously hard DLC, but the base games were pretty pathetic. Not counting GG&HT and maybe F/LT and RttH, I was completely disappointed with the challenge factor on all the songs on guitar. I sightread all of them except for GG&HT, and while I'm extremely good, I'm not a complete natural. By contrast, the on-disc songs for GH3 were much more challenging, albeit not nearly as bad as GH2, where Carry on My Wayward Son was in the second tier of eight. (At least it was in the PS2 version.)

Now, where GH3 was a total fail was on the DLC that was available. I actually bought my 360 when GH3 and RB were coming out specifically because I wanted to have access to DLC. Before that I was content playing everything on my PS2. And, well, GH3 had complete crap in the DLC department. The few songs they did have were typically ok, but there was almost none of it. It wasn't until World Tour that they started getting any kind of library, and it paled in comparison to Rock Band's by that point.



I think that in terms of being a guitar-playing game, GH3 was vastly superior to RB. The instrument was way better. (I don't understand how anyone plays on those damn stratocasters!) The menu system was cleaner, the graphics were more aesthetically pleasing, and it had a progression that actually felt like I was doing something besides playing In Bloom, Maps, I Think I'm Paranoid, and Say it Ain't So over and over and over and over and...and that's assuming you could find someone to play with since you couldn't do the tour mode by yourself. (I eventually bought a mic stand.)

In terms of being an anything-else game, GH3 was vastly inferior to RB. It wasn't a great party game. It didn't have drums or vocals. RB's DLC catalog eventually came to be the overreaching decision factor between the two. But GH3 itself was pretty good.
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shadosneko
03/25/12 8:45:00 AM
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A LOT of the GH3 songs were just un-fun (GH3 Before I Forget is one of the most unfun songs to play ever, Rock Band did it ok though), Rock Band 1 came out about the same time (I think it was a month apart, with RB coming first), all of the aesthetics were changed for the worse, artificial difficulty in the way of added things, the timing windows were a ****ing joke, the controller sucks quite a bit, super overpriced DLC, very little DLC, Arcade cabinet version was also a piece of ****, costing >= $1 for like, 2 songs, I could probably go on.

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vocals aren't anything you "learn,"


lol what

As far as the difficulty comparison is concerned, RB1 had more fun difficult songs, GH3 was just getting songs difficult just because in the guitar dept, but RB1 had a lot of difficult drum songs (at the time, anyway) that were still also fun. Yeah, apples to oranges, but you didn't buy Rock Band for, you know, guitar difficulty. You bought it for party play and the other instruments.

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StifledSilence
03/25/12 8:51:00 AM
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I loved GH3. Especially because of the track list. The boss battles I could take or leave, but they didn't ruin the pacing of the game so they didn't bother me much.

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Metal_DK
03/25/12 9:03:00 AM
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Also I don't care about a few random notes. GH1 and 2 are too easy and boring.

id actually argue GH3 is easier than 1/2/80s due to how easy it is to pull off the hammer ons in GH3.

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Paratroopa1
03/25/12 3:58:00 PM
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GH3 doesn't really have that much in the way of songs that are both challenging and fun. I'd pretty much narrow that list down to these:

Cliffs of Dover
Cult of Personality
Pride and Joy
The Metal
Black Magic Woman
Welcome to the Jungle
Impulse

Some songs in GH3 I really hate:

Raining Blood: Textbook artificial difficulty. Almost none of the charting in this song makes sense and it's just annoyingly hard, and that's coming from someone who nearly FCed it.

One: Really boring for a few minutes and then it has a stupidly hard solo that's actually charted faster than the notes are really played for the sake of artificial difficulty. Really unfun song to play.

Before I Forget: Holy s*** this song is murder on the wrists and for no other reason than for artificial difficulty.

Number of the Beast - Really awful 3-note chords.

Stricken - See above.

3's & 7's - See above.

The Way That It Ends - fhdsjghsjdhfsdjfh

Through the Fire and the Flames - Nothing needs to be said about how they vomited a ton of notes all over this one and called it good.
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DuxLeekSlap
03/25/12 4:01:00 PM
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I agree with you that every time play the Way That It Ends I want to smash the guitar on the ground.

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Lopen
03/25/12 4:12:00 PM
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I think Stricken is one of the few songs that does 3 chords properly to the point where they're actually fun.

Also I find One's solo amusing even if it is overcharted.

Agree with the rest though. To be fair GH 80s started the trend of awful 3 note chords. What I Like About You is the worst over 3 chorded song in GH history.

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pjbasis
03/25/12 4:51:00 PM
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No.

Second best in it's series.

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Paratroopa1
03/25/12 5:32:00 PM
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It probably still is the second best in its series, but there isn't much competition. Guitar Hero 3 does beat out GH1 which has its own charms but is ultimately really unpolished and weird, and beats out GH80's which is really kind of limited and doesn't have a ton of fun songs to play either. GH2 is the best by a pretty wide margin. For me, after that, GH kind of died spiritually when Harmonix moved onto RB, which in my opinion remains the superior franchise. GH:WT and everything that followed just sort of unsuccessfully tried to follow in its footsteps.
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Paratroopa1
03/25/12 5:34:00 PM
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Oh s***, I forgot to mention how terrible the boss battles are. It's kind of a fun mode to play with another person, but against the AI it's just terrible. The songs themselves are fun to play on their own, especially DWDTG which I admit is probably the coolest finale in any GH or RB game, but oh my god the boss battle mode. Ugggh it's just tedious and stupid.
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foolm0ron
03/25/12 5:47:00 PM
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3s & 7s is one of the best charted songs in any guitar game ever. It's so fun.

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CherryCokes
03/25/12 6:24:00 PM
#27:


And yet

The 3's & 7's chart for Rock Band is more fun >_>

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Paratroopa1
03/25/12 6:26:00 PM
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The 3's & 7's chart in GH3 is actually fine, I shouldn't have listed it as a chart that I hate - but I really don't like the unnecessary use of hard to hit chords in it. I prefer the RB version a lot.
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