Board 8 > **Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Character XIV** -- Day 58 [smfffc]

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 7:44:00 PM
#451:


pjbasis posted...
It all worked out in the end anyways right?

Who was it that said elimination is the only thing that matters?


I did.

And sorry, I am never assuming Squall or Tidus will get saved by someone else eventually. That's just begging for disaster. My goal for this contest has been plainly stated from the beginning, and I work toward that end first and foremost, which includes taking care of my own business and not expecting someone else to, especially considering Squall has narrowly avoided elimination in a couple rounds I missed.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 7:45:00 PM
#452:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Is Gen seriously complaining about Leon saving Squall?

Yeah, I guess complaining that someone would always save their favorite character first makes sense.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 7:47:00 PM
#453:


SockoDeus posted...
Can you blame her? I mean, it is Squall after all...

Isn't Rinoa one of your first saves?

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WarThaNemesis2
03/26/12 7:47:00 PM
#454:


I mean, just saying, expecting Leon to risk Squall is like expecting lefty to risk Cecil. It's just not going to happen barring very unusual circumstances.

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vcharon
03/26/12 7:47:00 PM
#455:


I think it's more about Leonhart claiming to be the general for FFX than with him saving Squall first.

Squall/Tidus finals good idea, make sure amy gets the memo for it.

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X_Dante_X
03/26/12 7:48:00 PM
#456:


well, leon is also general of the ff8 army.

This is absolutely glaring hypocrisy that I support him, I'll fully admit. But hey, he signed over the ffx general office to me back when he was uncontested so I kinda owe him one.

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WarThaNemesis2
03/26/12 7:48:00 PM
#457:


Leon I think this means you should stop saving FFX altogether! You can spend your Tidus save on FFL2's version of Jecht, DAD!

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 7:49:00 PM
#458:


vcharon posted...
I think it's more about Leonhart claiming to be the general for FFX than with him saving Squall first.

Squall/Tidus finals good idea, make sure amy gets the memo for it.


That is my plan. Conjure up something that would either force amy to attempt to intervene or die trying.

Noble goal, I say.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 7:50:00 PM
#459:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Leon I think this means you should stop saving FFX altogether! You can spend your Tidus save on FFL2's version of Jecht, DAD!

Nah, can't do that to the World's Greatest Son.

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vcharon
03/26/12 7:50:00 PM
#460:


It'd piss off a lot more than just amy, two (and more) birds with one stone!

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-FFDragon-
03/26/12 7:50:00 PM
#461:


SockoDeus posted...
Hey FFD, what is your stance on trading trades?

As a host? It's always been 'trade at your own risk.' There are no rules governing them.

Personally? I wouldn't trade with someone who played broker with my character.

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GenesisSaga
03/26/12 7:51:00 PM
#462:


LeonhartFour posted...
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Is Gen seriously complaining about Leon saving Squall?

Yeah, I guess complaining that someone would always save their favorite character first makes sense.


Is Leo seriously complaining about me failing to save Jecht when MY FAVORITE CHARACTER WAS IN THE BOTTOM TEN!? I'm not a goddamn miracle worker, people. There was nothing I could've done there.

Maybe if Leo was actually present longer than the last hour of the round I wouldn't have had to make the crucial decision everyone seems to be b****ing about.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 7:52:00 PM
#463:


-FFDragon- posted...
SockoDeus posted...
Hey FFD, what is your stance on trading trades?

As a host? It's always been 'trade at your own risk.' There are no rules governing them.

Personally? I wouldn't trade with someone who played broker with my character.


We could work out some Squall/Zell alliance. Operation Armageddon Lionheart we could call it.

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WarThaNemesis2
03/26/12 7:52:00 PM
#464:


Squall/Zell is a poor man's CeZellGamesh.

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vcharon
03/26/12 7:53:00 PM
#465:


Unless it was authorized and agreed upon I agree. I don't trade for characters on that "do not win" list from earlier, and to end up helping them would make me very unlikely to trade with someone who did that again.

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Xuxon
03/26/12 7:57:00 PM
#466:


early in the round who cares... someone's going to trade for them anyway, may as well get your favorite safe. once the round has about 25 saves or less left is when to be more selective.

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WarThaNemesis2
03/26/12 7:57:00 PM
#467:


I don't see what's terrible about trading an owed save for another save. Then again I consider trades to be, well, trades and not mini-alliances.

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-FFDragon-
03/26/12 7:57:00 PM
#468:


Armageddon Lionheart, this is doable.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 7:58:00 PM
#469:


Well endeavoring to save your favorite character is apparently a wasted save since we can assume someone else will eventually do it.

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SockoDeus
03/26/12 7:58:00 PM
#470:


From: -FFDragon- | #461
SockoDeus posted...
Hey FFD, what is your stance on trading trades?

As a host? It's always been 'trade at your own risk.' There are no rules governing them.

Personally? I wouldn't trade with someone who played broker with my character.


I agree 100% Glad to see we're on the same page.

From: LeonhartFour | #453
SockoDeus posted...
Can you blame her? I mean, it is Squall after all...

Isn't Rinoa one of your first saves?


Harsh, bro.

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X_Dante_X
03/26/12 7:59:00 PM
#471:


actually its a decently likely assumption I'll save zell after my cores done, which it seems to be lately

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Xuxon
03/26/12 7:59:00 PM
#472:


From: LeonhartFour | #469
Well endeavoring to save your favorite character is apparently a wasted save since we can assume someone else will eventually do it.


hey, when i woke up Kefka wasn't safe and it got me another save by waiting... though it ended up kinda useless as Yuffie and Jecht were pretty much tied in priority for me

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 8:00:00 PM
#473:


SockoDeus posted...
From: -FFDragon- | #461
SockoDeus posted...
Hey FFD, what is your stance on trading trades?

As a host? It's always been 'trade at your own risk.' There are no rules governing them.

Personally? I wouldn't trade with someone who played broker with my character.
I agree 100% Glad to see we're on the same page.

From: LeonhartFour | #453
SockoDeus posted...
Can you blame her? I mean, it is Squall after all...

Isn't Rinoa one of your first saves?
Harsh, bro.


Well, maybe we could work out some sort of...deal. Operation Invincible Lionheart we'll call it.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 8:02:00 PM
#474:


Xuxon posted...
From: LeonhartFour | #469
Well endeavoring to save your favorite character is apparently a wasted save since we can assume someone else will eventually do it.
hey, when i woke up Kefka wasn't safe and it got me another save by waiting... though it ended up kinda useless as Yuffie and Jecht were pretty much tied in priority for me


Well, my internet time has become more limited of late, so I don't have the luxury of waiting around, especially when I have already missed most of the round.

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SockoDeus
03/26/12 8:07:00 PM
#475:


From: LeonhartFour | #473
Well, maybe we could work out some sort of...deal. Operation Invincible Lionheart we'll call it.


Ehh, sounds good in theory, but with you having limited internet time, I just don't know.

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vcharon
03/26/12 8:09:00 PM
#476:


Last minute dad list, via requests. Most of the good ones are already in the contest, so this will be a rather obscure and short list!

1) Braska
This beacon of manliness couldn't be contained by his robe. Set the ground work for liberating the world!

2) Bartholomew Estheim
Hope is a man's castle eh? Well if that's true, his dad's house must be the **** right?

3) Cid (FFX)
This macho man flies his airship near huge dragons and doesn't afraid of anything.

4) Strago Magus
Continued to live to a ripe old age despite being related to Relm. What a man.

5) Grimoire Valentine
This manly man shielded a woman (and annoying character) from death, giving his own life in exchange. Unfortunately it caused his son to spend most of his life in a coffin and deny him of lovin', but hey dads aren't perfect.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 8:10:00 PM
#477:


Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be every round. It can be a "when the need and opportunity arise" deal.

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GenesisSaga
03/26/12 8:11:00 PM
#478:


LeonhartFour posted...
Well endeavoring to save your favorite character is apparently a wasted save since we can assume someone else will eventually do it.

I literally just said bottom ten is the time to abandon all ye hope. Selective reading doesn't look good on ya btw. ;) If Squall had been in the bottom 11, or 10, or Yevon forbid 9 and you saved him, I would take no issue with any of this and we wouldn't be having this conversation now. But you didn't do that. You jumped the gun and saved him when there were still well over 20 characters left, likely under the misguided assumption that you would get another save. And of course you didn't. You failed. You claim to want a Squall/Tidus final, but you're doing next to nothing to further it and you're complaining that I failed my troops when in reality I've only made them stronger. I mean I suppose I could have saved Jecht and risked ending your Squall/Tidus final right then and there, but I'm sure you would have whined even more about that...

In short, I really don't know what you wanted me to do, Leo. As standing VIII General, what would you have done in my position? Save Jecht and leave Tidus to die? Have faith that someone else would step in? The last two times I had faith in someone else to save X characters, Wakka and Gippal were ousted so you can see why I'd rather not do that again. By all means, tell me what I should've done. I'm eager to hear some actually constructive criticism.

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vcharon
03/26/12 8:11:00 PM
#479:


Hey we don't have many posts left, enough of this poo. Discuss dads.

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X_Dante_X
03/26/12 8:12:00 PM
#480:


I agree let us discuss DAD

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Justin_Crossing
03/26/12 8:13:00 PM
#481:


you know

when agrias went out i didn't whine

like a good little boy

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X_Dante_X
03/26/12 8:13:00 PM
#482:


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WarThaNemesis2
03/26/12 8:13:00 PM
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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 8:15:00 PM
#484:


Assuming I assumed I would get another save is a misguided assumption in and of itself. I saved Squall because I wasn't expecting to get another one and I wasn't going to be able to hang around the whole time.

As for the Tidus/Jecht thing, think outside the box. Offer to owe a save to someone next round to save Tidus so you can save Jecht. Someone who had no rooting interest among the remaining characters may have helped. Just make your intentions known up front. That's what I did the other day. I made it known I wanted to save both Jecht and Balthier, and I hoped someone else did, too, and sure enough, it worked out.

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GenesisSaga
03/26/12 8:16:00 PM
#485:


Justin_Crossing posted...
you know

when agrias went out i didn't whine

like a good little boy


You didn't have four people whining about how it was all your fault when you did everything you could to prevent it though, did you? :(

All you guys ever do is pick on me- OH GOD AM I THE NEW CHARON!?D:

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Liberal Degenerate
03/26/12 8:17:00 PM
#486:


From: Inviso | Posted: 3/27/2012 3:22:13 AM | #441
ATTN: Liberal & pjbasis

This round proved that you guys cannot EVER miss a round. Whatever it takes, you are NEEDED in this contest.


highly unlikely I can be around at all on Mondays and Wednesdays, since I've got classes pretty much all day

so yeah, I suppose you'll have to work extra hard on those days, o' great undisputed FFIX General

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vcharon
03/26/12 8:18:00 PM
#487:


The Force will be with you, always.

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WarThaNemesis2
03/26/12 8:18:00 PM
#488:


vcharon is like ten times cooler than genesisSUCKSA m i rite?

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pjbasis
03/26/12 8:19:00 PM
#489:


Ugh I don't want to be associated with an FFIX army.

I'm just here for Kuja.
And Vivi if I get the chance.

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Inviso
03/26/12 8:21:00 PM
#490:


From: pjbasis | #489
Ugh I don't want to be associated with an FFIX army.

I'm just here for Kuja.
And Vivi if I get the chance.


I'm gonna be honest with you.

Those two and Zidane are pretty much the only FF9 characters worth saving.

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LeonhartFour
03/26/12 8:21:00 PM
#491:


pjbasis posted...
Ugh I don't want to be associated with an FFIX army.

I'm just here for Kuja.
And Vivi if I get the chance.


Owned.

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-FFDragon-
03/26/12 8:21:00 PM
#492:


GenesisSaga posted...
OH GOD AM I THE NEW CHARON!?D:

*looks at the past 250 posts*

Weeeeeeeeeeell... ›_›

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X_Dante_X
03/26/12 8:22:00 PM
#493:


genny has become self aware abort abort

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Liberal Degenerate
03/26/12 8:22:00 PM
#494:


hey Blank's been having a smooth newcomer run, he might go places

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Inviso
03/26/12 8:24:00 PM
#495:


From: Liberal Degenerate | #494
hey Blank's been having a smooth newcomer run, he might go places


Eh.

I could see you saying that about Steiner. i may not like it, but I could see it.

Beatrix...I'm disowning her, given her fanbase.

But Freya/Blank...no. Just no.

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SockoDeus
03/26/12 8:24:00 PM
#496:


From: LeonhartFour | #478
Well, it doesn't necessarily have to be every round. It can be a "when the need and opportunity arise" deal.


Heh, the only time Squall needs help is when you're not here, and if you're not here, you can't trade...Perhaps we can work something out later on down the road if Squall continues to survive.

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GenesisSaga
03/26/12 8:25:00 PM
#497:


LeonhartFour posted...
Assuming I assumed I would get another save is a misguided assumption in and of itself. I saved Squall because I wasn't expecting to get another one and I wasn't going to be able to hang around the whole time.

As for the Tidus/Jecht thing, think outside the box. Offer to owe a save to someone next round to save Tidus so you can save Jecht.


That's a really terrible plan. Like, really god awful. First of all, next-round trades are a last-ditch effort you would use on a favorite and only a favorite. Like, I know you said trade for Tidus- a favorite, but the reality of that situation would be trying to keep both Tidus and Jecht alive and to tell the truth Jecht was only my fourth favorite X character left. I've only been prioritizing him because he was the weakest left that I actually liked. Second of all, having one less save the following round would mean putting Tidus in jeopardy if I had to trade for him yet again. A: I don't like being in debt round after round, potentially or otherwise B: I'd only be prolonging his inevitable elimination anyway- probably the very next round since I'd have one less save to trade- so why bother to go through all that trouble for a midcarder anyway?

Just make your intentions known up front. That's what I did the other day. I made it known I wanted to save both Jecht and Balthier, and I hoped someone else did, too, and sure enough, it worked out.

Now that actually could've worked. I suppose I should have tried that instead. Thanks Leo. Duly noted.

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-FFDragon-
03/26/12 8:25:00 PM
#498:


Trix are for kids

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X_Dante_X
03/26/12 8:26:00 PM
#499:


hello snipers

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GuessMyUserName
03/26/12 8:26:00 PM
#500:


Celes for second time champion let's go

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