Board 8 > Oh snaps, Gametrailers Xenoblade review is up

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Weakupedia
03/28/12 3:02:00 AM
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http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-xenoblade-chronicles/728549?

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htaeD
03/28/12 3:16:00 AM
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comments be hatin on the british VA's

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TheRock1525
03/28/12 3:42:00 AM
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I thought Gametrailers already reviewed this a while ago.

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The Real Truth
03/28/12 3:47:00 AM
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ballin

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EndOfDiscOne
03/28/12 3:48:00 AM
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Score is slightly lower than I would have expected, but I don't care about scores of games that I've already played.

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Senjougaharaism
03/28/12 3:50:00 AM
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looks like an okay game

I might play it at some point

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TheRock1525
03/28/12 3:54:00 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Score is slightly lower than I would have expected, but I don't care about scores of games that I've already played.

The score isn't important, the content of the review is.

They barely had any negatives to talk about, and I think of examples where a majority of the review was in a negative tone and they still gave it a 8.7 or something (Deus Ex: HR).

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Vlado
03/28/12 5:17:00 AM
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TheRock1525 posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
Score is slightly lower than I would have expected, but I don't care about scores of games that I've already played.

The score isn't important, the content of the review is.

They barely had any negatives to talk about, and I think of examples where a majority of the review was in a negative tone and they still gave it a 8.7 or something (Deus Ex: HR).


That usually depends on expectations. You could still give a game a good score, but if it disappointed in certain areas, you're more likely to emphasise on them.

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ninkendo
03/28/12 5:36:00 AM
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GT does compare Wii graphics to PS3 and 360 and rates them accordingly so there's that to factor in. It's the one thing they do that I don't really agree with.

also is it just me or did they not really talk about the music as much as they should have. It's easily the best part of the game.

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Liquid Wind
03/28/12 5:38:00 AM
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wwait, 9.3?

and we thought 8.8 was bad, nintendo fans have now moved up to crucifying reviewers for 9.3's?

wow.
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ninkendo
03/28/12 5:45:00 AM
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I enjoy reading Liquid Wind posts on the Xenoblade board

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EndOfDiscOne
03/28/12 5:49:00 AM
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Liquid Wind posted...
wwait, 9.3?

and we thought 8.8 was bad, nintendo fans have now moved up to crucifying reviewers for 9.3's?

wow.


Lol. Like I said I don't care about the score, I just expected higher since they had almost nothing negative to say. I like to not "spoil" myself on the score and watch/read the review first.

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Lightning Strikes
03/28/12 6:01:00 AM
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Yeah it's hardly an overreaction. 9.3 is exactly what I was expecting from the review, and I was a bit concerned before it came out that it would be lower because GT are kind of obsessed about technical details.

Scores are important, btw. They summarise what the reviewer thought of the game as a whole rather than focusing on a simple list of positives or negatives.

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Leebo86
03/28/12 6:04:00 AM
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I saw the comment about the score and thought "gotta be something like 8". Was honestly a bit surprised that 9.3 was considered low.

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tereziWright
03/28/12 6:10:00 AM
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Literally complaining about a 9.3 for a jRPG in 2012.

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EndOfDiscOne
03/28/12 6:14:00 AM
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I hope you guys are talking about some other topic, and aren't saying that I'm the one who's complaining.

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Rad Link 5
03/28/12 6:35:00 AM
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You know what's sillier than complaining about low review scores?

Complaining about low review scores when the score is above 9 on a scale of 10.

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Lightning Strikes
03/28/12 9:51:00 AM
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Guys

Guys

All he said was that it was lower than he expected. Not that that invalidated the review. Not that it was a bad score.

He said that it was lower than he thought it would be, so therefore it was lower than he thought it would be.

That's all.

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transcience
03/28/12 11:03:00 AM
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I thought the text of the review didn't match the score. I expect tons of praise for a 9.3 score and it didn't really seem like an all-time game based on the review.

then again, this is a site that dumped on AC2 and still gave it a 9.1 or something. not sure why people put so much stock into GT reviews besides their technical value and the voice.

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CalvinbalI
03/28/12 11:05:00 AM
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Pretty spot on review, I think. I wish they showed a few different areas, particularly when they talked about how well put together and interesting the world is. Pretty much all they showed were grassy areas and a few caves. I know they don't want to spoil anything, but a quick pan shot of Eryth Sea or Satorl Marsh at night wouldn't have been a big deal.

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GuessMyUserName
03/28/12 11:17:00 AM
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One of the look-out points on Valak Mountain at night aww yeah

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CalvinbalI
03/28/12 11:24:00 AM
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Valak Mountain. Probably because that area can rot in hell for its nonexistent ice cabbages.

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KingButz
03/28/12 11:33:00 AM
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9.3 is a really good score.

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03/28/12 11:37:00 AM
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TheRock1525
03/28/12 2:03:00 PM
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transcience posted...
I thought the text of the review didn't match the score. I expect tons of praise for a 9.3 score and it didn't really seem like an all-time game based on the review.

then again, this is a site that dumped on AC2 and still gave it a 9.1 or something. not sure why people put so much stock into GT reviews besides their technical value and the voice.


Really? I thought they heaped tons of praise on the game, and every time they found a fault they easily counteracted it with something good.

This sounded like an overwhelming positive review.

What's funny is that they did the same with Assassin's Creed Revelations, going as far as saying it was the best game in the series. And they gave it the lowest score they've ever given an AC mainline game.

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Weakupedia
03/28/12 3:27:00 PM
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i think they tend to rate a game lower if it fails to bring new stuff to the table, even if it has more polish than the previous game.

which is fine imo

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transcience
03/28/12 3:45:00 PM
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I didn't get the sense that it was heaping praise. maybe I have a different perspective because I've played it and they didn't really highlight what I would. dunno.

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TheRock1525
03/28/12 3:48:00 PM
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Well there's only a handful of complaints I heard, and they were quickly countered. For example, they said backtracking across the huge land would be a pain, but there's a quick travel system that makes a nice balance between exploration and sidequesting. They say the story doesn't do anything new but they still said it was good.

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TheRock1525
03/28/12 3:51:00 PM
#29:


Weakupedia posted...
i think they tend to rate a game lower if it fails to bring new stuff to the table, even if it has more polish than the previous game.

which is fine imo


But technically AC:R did bring new stuff to the table. And it's why I largely ignore the actual scores in reviews and focus on the content. If you feel the game is the best in the series, especially in a series where the most recent entry wasn't but a year ago, it doesn't really make sense to say it's a superior game then give it an inferior score. Maybe if there's a 3+ year gap or something and there's been extensive changes to the genre, then yes, I get why they'd lower the score.

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CalvinbalI
03/28/12 4:00:00 PM
#30:


From: TheRock1525 | #029
Weakupedia posted...
i think they tend to rate a game lower if it fails to bring new stuff to the table, even if it has more polish than the previous game.

which is fine imo


But technically AC:R did bring new stuff to the table. And it's why I largely ignore the actual scores in reviews and focus on the content. If you feel the game is the best in the series, especially in a series where the most recent entry wasn't but a year ago, it doesn't really make sense to say it's a superior game then give it an inferior score. Maybe if there's a 3+ year gap or something and there's been extensive changes to the genre, then yes, I get why they'd lower the score.


Do they have the same reviewer reviewing all the AC games? While the site probably has a general review scale that its staff follows, I doubt the staff has to adhere to the scores of their peers in some attempt to create a score ranking consistent with the content of the reviews.

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Mik_Pick
03/28/12 4:13:00 PM
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9.3 is very good for GameTrailers, and in my opinion they still have the best video reviews.

The game does look very good, but watching it makes me wish it was for PS3 / 360. Now I know it's not always about the graphics, and I do enjoy the Wii, but an epic RPG like this one would really benefit from the extra power.

Question: Does it run fine on a SD TV, or does it get boxed like Skyward Sword?

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TheRock1525
03/28/12 4:14:00 PM
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No, see, here's the thing:

I never, ever care about the review score. It's completely meaningless to me. What matters is the content of the review. A review of say, Dynasty Warriors, comes out and they give it a 4. I don't care that the score is a 4, I care what exactly they said. If they come up with valid points, then I'll take that to heart on my purchase. If the review boils down to "All you do is hit X" and "Oh boy another Dynasty Warriors game" then I'm going to ignore it.

It's why I like watching GT reviews. Usually they have good content and opinions on their games.

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CalvinbalI
03/28/12 5:48:00 PM
#33:


From: Mik_Pick | #031
The game does look very good, but watching it makes me wish it was for PS3 / 360. Now I know it's not always about the graphics, and I do enjoy the Wii, but an epic RPG like this one would really benefit from the extra power.


I've played through it, and believe me, the game looks good. Not on a micro level, granted, but the environments you play in are downright gorgeous. I can't tell you how many times I stopped everything I was doing and just looked around. Gametrailers blames this on the Wii, which is partially true, but it's obvious that they sacrificed polygon counts on individual models for superb draw distance.

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EndOfDiscOne
03/28/12 7:31:00 PM
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I can't tell you how many times I stopped everything I was doing and just looked around.

I constantly did this in Xenoblade. And when I ran I around I would always be rotating the camera to check out the surroundings (get the classic controller if you don't have it already).

I remember when the Skyward Sword reviews hit I was surprised at all the reviews praising the graphics, because I thought Xenoblade looked much better.

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Lightning Strikes
03/29/12 5:55:00 AM
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From: transcience | #059
I thought the text of the review didn't match the score. I expect tons of praise for a 9.3 score and it didn't really seem like an all-time game based on the review.

then again, this is a site that dumped on AC2 and still gave it a 9.1 or something. not sure why people put so much stock into GT reviews besides their technical value and the voice.


They flat-out called it one of the best games on the Wii. How is that not heaping praise?

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__Smurf__
03/29/12 6:05:00 AM
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From: CalvinbalI | #033
I've played through it, and believe me, the game looks good. Not on a micro level, granted, but the environments you play in are downright gorgeous. I can't tell you how many times I stopped everything I was doing and just looked around.


Same, one of the most graphically impressive games of the generation. The scale is just incredible. I remember on that bridge where you first meet Fiora admiring the view beneath and jumping over the cliff expecting either an invisible wall or some sort of death mechanic below for straying away from the path. Nope, was all fully explorable, populating layers and backgrounds like that is just something games never do.

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ninkendo
03/29/12 7:40:00 AM
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http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=&cat=71&year=0&numrev=3&sort=0&letter=&search=

4th best all time I can accept this list. Maybe switch CT and FF6 though!

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UberPyro64
03/29/12 7:59:00 AM
#38:


It's the best if you only count games that had 20 reviews or higher.

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=&cat=71&year=0&numrev=0&sort=0&letter=&search=

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GuessMyUserName
03/29/12 8:02:00 AM
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From: ninkendo | Posted: 3/29/2012 10:40:44 AM | #037
http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=&cat=71&year=0&numrev=3&sort=0&letter=&search=

4th best all time I can accept this list. Maybe switch CT and FF6 though!


I love how my 2 favourite games of all time have the exact same score <3

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ninkendo
03/29/12 8:18:00 AM
#40:


UberPyro64 posted...
It's the best if you only count games that had 20 reviews or higher.

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=&cat=71&year=0&numrev=0&sort=0&letter=&search=


it's actually better when you remove that limitation because then it keeps CT, FF6 and Mother 3 and who in their right mind would remove those

probably just Persona 4 fanboys who can't stand not seeing their game in the top 5

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Ayuyu
03/29/12 8:30:00 AM
#41:


From: ninkendo | #040
UberPyro64 posted...
It's the best if you only count games that had 20 reviews or higher.

http://www.gamerankings.com/browse.html?site=&cat=71&year=0&numrev=0&sort=0&letter=&search=


it's actually better when you remove that limitation because then it keeps CT, FF6 and Mother 3 and who in their right mind would remove those

probably just Persona 4 fanboys who can't stand not seeing their game in the top 5


Mother only has 1 review though.

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Theon_Greyjoy
03/29/12 8:48:00 AM
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http://operationrainfall.com/xenoblade-nintendo-power-review/

Hot scans from Nintendo Power review

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Weakupedia
03/29/12 10:13:00 AM
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why did that image showing changing appearances based on equipment to more for me than the past year of people calling it the greatest RPG in the last 5 years?

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transcience
03/29/12 10:29:00 AM
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some of the outfit changes are downright ludicrous. especially since they effect cutscenes as well.

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CalvinbalI
03/29/12 10:44:00 AM
#45:


Yeah you have to be careful with armor in Xenoblade, some of it is just comical. I'm also annoyed that

*minor endgame equipment spoilers*







the best armor in the game is a common drop from level 70ish monsters and is - aesthetically - completely uninteresting.










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PrivateBiscuit1
03/29/12 10:52:00 AM
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Eesh. I forgot how behind the times that the Wii is in terms of graphics.

I will probably end up getting this game though.

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