Board 8 > **Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Character XIV** -- Day 63 RULE CHANGE [smfffc]

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BrettEagles
04/03/12 8:23:00 AM
#453:


Ugh

This isn't even the fun drama this contest thrives on.

I propose we all vote for the only fair option... Zack Fair.

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GuessMyUserName
04/03/12 8:26:00 AM
#454:


ngirl wanting to cause drama doesn't change the fact that Inviso encouraged her to go save Kuja.

I mean aside from Inviso's alliance, I like her saves (if you haven't noticed, FF9's my second favourite FF!), but I really can't support what she did.

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Gatarix
04/03/12 8:27:00 AM
#455:


How often does ngirl save, anyway? I only remember seeing her in these topics, like, once or twice before. But I don't usually tally, so my memory may not be so good there.

The way I see it, it's rallying if you're hauling in someone who isn't a contest regular and wouldn't otherwise be saving. But it's perfectly fine to talk with another contest regular (making trades, trying to convince him to change his vote habits, "pestering," whatever). So, to me, the big questionmark is enny's status.


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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:31:00 AM
#456:


IIRC, ngirl had started saving about 5-6 rounds ago, supporting Beatrix mostly.

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GenesisSaga
04/03/12 8:33:00 AM
#457:


th3l3fty posted...
it's not Inviso being annoying

it's Inviso getting someone to vote who normally wouldn't vote without being prompted to

I don't like the whole part with ngirl asking how she can spin it, but I honestly don't think it needs spinning to be anything other than a cut and dry case


But NGirl, as much as I love her, is about as notorious for being a drama queen as Inviso is for being a rallyer. She pretty much threw any credibility of Inviso "pestering" her to vote for someone she might not necessarily have voted for out of the window with her comments.

I hate to make assumptions like this, but it's 99.9% obvious NGirl wasn't really bothered by it at all and only wanted drama. Maybe there's that 0.1% chance I'm mistaken, but when the evidence is right there I'm not sure why anyone would want to cling to the chance. Unless you just want to antagonize Inviso out of "revenge" or something silly.

Anyway, I've said my peace. I'm done. Just waiting for the night round now.

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:35:00 AM
#458:


32, 35, 36, 38, 49, 57, 59, 61, 64

almost all Beatrix

first non-Beatrix, non-Vivi save came in Day 61

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SockoDeus
04/03/12 8:35:00 AM
#459:


Xuxon posted...
but seriously Inviso being annoying =/= breaking the rules. i don't know how that isn't super obvious.

Sending someone a PM/IM telling them to save someone sounds like rallying to me, which is against the rules. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, and people are sending messages to others in order to invoke saves all the time, but I haven't sent or received messages of the nature of Inviso's messages.

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:37:00 AM
#460:


From: GenesisSaga | #457
I hate to make assumptions like this, but it's 99.9% obvious NGirl wasn't really bothered by it at all and only wanted drama.


It doesn't matter if your only intent is drama. That wouldn't make a case of rallying any less of a case!

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:37:00 AM
#461:


Anyway, obviously everyone should be banned except for me, FFD, and whipper.

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:37:00 AM
#462:


what about Regaro

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Gatarix
04/03/12 8:37:00 AM
#463:


I hate to make assumptions like this, but it's 99.9% obvious NGirl wasn't really bothered by it at all and only wanted drama.

I totally agree. But that's not mutually exclusive with rallying.

Like, say Ermine totally randomly IMed me to go vote in Save My Disney Animal or whatever. I wouldn't be bothered by it at all. I would just ignore it (or maybe anti-vote whatever he told me, depending on mood). But it would still be attempted rallying.


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_Regaro_
04/03/12 8:38:00 AM
#464:


From: th3l3fty | Posted: 4/3/2012 10:37:41 AM | #462
what about Regaro


what about me

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GenesisSaga
04/03/12 8:38:00 AM
#465:


The Mana Sword posted...
Anyway, obviously everyone should be banned except for me, Genesis, FFD, and whipper.

I've never rallied/been rallied in/to this contest. What gives!?

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:38:00 AM
#466:


Reg doesn't save Cissnei as his first priority!

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:39:00 AM
#467:


From: GenesisSaga | #465
I've never rallied/been rallied in/to this contest. What gives!?


you'd like to think that wouldn't you

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GuessMyUserName
04/03/12 8:39:00 AM
#468:


From: GenesisSaga | Posted: 4/3/2012 11:33:10 AM | #457
th3l3fty posted...
it's not Inviso being annoying

it's Inviso getting someone to vote who normally wouldn't vote without being prompted to

I don't like the whole part with ngirl asking how she can spin it, but I honestly don't think it needs spinning to be anything other than a cut and dry case


But NGirl, as much as I love her, is about as notorious for being a drama queen as Inviso is for being a rallyer. She pretty much threw any credibility of Inviso "pestering" her to vote for someone she might not necessarily have voted for out of the window with her comments.

I hate to make assumptions like this, but it's 99.9% obvious NGirl wasn't really bothered by it at all and only wanted drama. Maybe there's that 0.1% chance I'm mistaken, but when the evidence is right there I'm not sure why anyone would want to cling to the chance. Unless you just want to antagonize Inviso out of "revenge" or something silly.

Anyway, I've said my peace. I'm done. Just waiting for the night round now.


Unlike you, I don't like ngirl at all. She's definitely one of the biggest attention whores this place has ever seen and absolutely loves to start s***.


But it's a FACT that Inviso tried to get ngirl in to save because she likes Kuja, which is basically rallying.

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_Regaro_
04/03/12 8:39:00 AM
#469:


From: The Mana Sword | Posted: 4/3/2012 10:38:48 AM | #466
Reg doesn't save Cissnei as his first priority!


kleenex, I have something important to tell you


your lack of gilgamesh saving recently bothers me

you're fired

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:41:00 AM
#470:


I save Gilgamesh if I get enough saves, but at 4 saves things start getting a lot tighter because I haven't picked up any other supporters!

(hinthint)

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GenesisSaga
04/03/12 8:41:00 AM
#471:


The Mana Sword posted...
Reg doesn't save Cissnei as his first priority!

Oh that's how you're gonna play it, Kleenex?

Fine! I move everyone who has never voted Tidus be banned posthaste!

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_Regaro_
04/03/12 8:41:00 AM
#472:


From: The Mana Sword | Posted: 4/3/2012 10:41:00 AM | #470
I save Gilgamesh if I get enough saves, but at 4 saves things start getting a lot tighter because I haven't picked up any other supporters!

(hinthint)


this is why I have my hands full trying to keep Bartz and Gilgamesh alive!

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:41:00 AM
#473:


Time to drop the butz tbqh

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_Regaro_
04/03/12 8:42:00 AM
#474:


Like hell

gotta drag him to the finals with Gilgamesh so I can see what happens

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:43:00 AM
#475:


Butz wins because LOL REPEAT WINNERS

A more interesting scenario would be if two previous winners made it.

I bet the final would get 0 votes.

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:44:00 AM
#476:


the final would be an eternal tie

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GenesisSaga
04/03/12 8:45:00 AM
#477:


The Mana Sword posted...
Time to drop the butz tbqh

Are you saying he should kiss his Butz goodbye? :D

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Shoenin_Kakashi
04/03/12 8:45:00 AM
#478:


Butz wins because LOL REPEAT WINNERS

Kinda like how Gilgamesh won eh

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_Regaro_
04/03/12 8:46:00 AM
#479:


From: The Mana Sword | Posted: 4/3/2012 10:43:41 AM | #475
Butz wins because LOL REPEAT WINNERS

A more interesting scenario would be if two previous winners made it.

I bet the final would get 0 votes.


This would be beautiful

I'd drag Bartz Klauser all the way to a win

well really I want this final to happen so I can try to rally xiiI_rocks so he can get mad about the final being all ff5

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:46:00 AM
#480:


Exactly how Gilgamesh won, yes. If he had been up against whoever got 3rd that year (Laguna?), he would have lost.

Hell, he still almost lost to Vivi.

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:48:00 AM
#481:


1st Place - Gilgamesh
2nd Place - Vivi Ornitier
3rd Place - Laguna Loire
4th Place - Kain Highwind
5th Place - Yuna
6th Place - Basch von Rosenberg
7th Place - Wiegraf Folles


I can see Gilgamesh beating maybe two of the five behind Vivi

maybe

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GenesisSaga
04/03/12 8:50:00 AM
#482:


So with Balthier out who are the former champions still in this?

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:50:00 AM
#483:


just according to keikaku



(keikaku means plan)

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Gatarix
04/03/12 8:50:00 AM
#484:


The "repeat winner" stigma is so weird. If I like someone then I'd like them as repeat winner.


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KingKracko
04/03/12 8:50:00 AM
#485:


Pretty sure Gilgamesh would have beat Laguna, if I remember correctly Laguna got absolutely steamrolled in the final 3.

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:51:00 AM
#486:


Cecil, Celes, Vivi, Edgar, Kuja, Auron, Zell, Gilgamesh and Zidane

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:51:00 AM
#487:


KingKracko posted...
Pretty sure Gilgamesh would have beat Laguna, if I remember correctly Laguna got absolutely steamrolled in the final 3.

I think this is partially because some people (mistakenly) believed that Vivi stood a better chance at beating him.

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SockoDeus
04/03/12 8:53:00 AM
#488:


The Mana Sword posted...
KingKracko posted...
Pretty sure Gilgamesh would have beat Laguna, if I remember correctly Laguna got absolutely steamrolled in the final 3.

I think this is partially because some people (mistakenly) believed that Vivi stood a better chance at beating him.



Anti-voting begets anti-voting. A vicious cycle...

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GuessMyUserName
04/03/12 8:53:00 AM
#489:


From: Gatarix | Posted: 4/3/2012 11:50:41 AM | #484
The "repeat winner" stigma is so weird. If I like someone then I'd like them as repeat winner.


I've been asking for a Celes repeat for ages!

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pjbasis
04/03/12 8:53:00 AM
#490:


From: Gatarix | #484
The "repeat winner" stigma is so weird. If I like someone then I'd like them as repeat winner.


When it comes down to the final, how many people actually have their favorite character up there?

You're just voting for which one you want to see win more, something like repeat winner could influence.

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The Mana Sword
04/03/12 8:54:00 AM
#491:


Gatarix posted...
The "repeat winner" stigma is so weird. If I like someone then I'd like them as repeat winner.


I blame Link.

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Liberal Degenerate
04/03/12 8:54:00 AM
#492:


From: The Mana Sword | Posted: 4/3/2012 4:51:35 PM | #487
KingKracko posted...
Pretty sure Gilgamesh would have beat Laguna, if I remember correctly Laguna got absolutely steamrolled in the final 3.

I think this is partially because some people (mistakenly) believed that Vivi stood a better chance at beating him.


*coughcharoncough*

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KingKracko
04/03/12 8:55:00 AM
#493:


Yeah, I agree that's why Laguna got steamrolled was that the anti-Gilgamesh people jumped on the wrong train, I remember Laguna doing horrendous in that round which he wasn't before that.

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Gatarix
04/03/12 8:56:00 AM
#494:


You're just voting for which one you want to see win more, something like repeat winner could influence.

I want the one I like better to win. Repeat winner would only make a difference if I liked them equally, which would be rare.


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pjbasis
04/03/12 8:57:00 AM
#495:


You actually can make that sort of distinction with every character?

When it comes down to less than Top 5, it's all jumbled in vague tiers.

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th3l3fty
04/03/12 8:57:00 AM
#496:


B8 just seems to hate repeat winners in general, and Link is probably no small part in this!

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Gatarix
04/03/12 9:00:00 AM
#497:


You actually can make that sort of distinction with every character?

Well, not every character. (like with today's round, I like Balthier/Auron about equally) But for most of our finals I think it's been pretty clear-cut.


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vcharon
04/03/12 9:01:00 AM
#498:


KingKracko posted...
Pretty sure Gilgamesh would have beat Laguna, if I remember correctly Laguna got absolutely steamrolled in the final 3.

People might not want to hear it, but Gilgamesh did lose if we are playing by today's rules at least. LittleMac222 definitely rallied by User (all 10 of their vote times were minutes apart, even when they weren't on the hour).

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Liberal Degenerate
04/03/12 9:01:00 AM
#499:


Conclusion: Play Xenogears.

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GenesisSaga
04/03/12 9:01:00 AM
#500:


Yikes.

If Zell Dincht can win, Tidus can too! Ride that Tidus Trolley all the way to the finals!

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