Board 8 > Romney...oh dear.

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http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/10/mitt-romneys-campaign-calls-gay-teen-bullying-report-exaggerated/

Uh oh a presidential candidate was mean in high school! For this reason he is unqualified to lead!

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Even as a social liberal, I have to admit this whole "gay bully" thing that's circulating in the news right now is stupid.

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Romney, the son of then-Michigan governor George Romney, had it out for a younger boy because of his long bleached-blond hair.

uh oh

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Unless "held him down and cut off his hair" is a euphemism for "held him down and put it in", I don't think this will hurt him much.

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From: JDTAY | #005
Unless "held him down and cut off his hair" is a euphemism for "held him down and put it in", I don't think this will hurt him much.

D.

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Wow, this is stupid. I don't give a f*** what immature crap Romney did as a teenager in the 50's or 60's, and I don't even like him.

Yeah, let's focus on how he's bullying gays now instead.

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The funniest part about this is that if WC ever runs for president, that serious business episode with the handy will become national news, just like this

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On the one hand, he assaulted a kid when he was in high school.

On the other hand, he assaulted a kid when he was in high school.

From: Paratroopa1 | #008
Wow, this is stupid. I don't give a f*** what immature crap Romney did as a teenager in the 50's or 60's, and I don't even like him.

But if we elect him President, then he will go around personally cutting the hair of all gay people in America! Don't say he won't do it, because he has done it before!

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foolmor0n posted...
From: Paratroopa1 | #008
Wow, this is stupid. I don't give a f*** what immature crap Romney did as a teenager in the 50's or 60's, and I don't even like him.
But if we elect him President, then he will go around personally cutting the hair of all gay people in America! Don't say he won't do it, because he has done it before!

No, it's more about the character of the guy.

I'd have a hard time voting for Obama if the same thing was true of him.

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“Aren’t there — aren’t there issues of significance that you’d like to talk about?” Romney said, cutting off the CBS reporter.

This could hurt him.

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From: foolmor0n | #012
But if we elect him President, then he will go around personally cutting the hair of all gay people in America! Don't say he won't do it, because he has done it before!

Only if the hair is long and bleached!

From: EvilSakurai | #013
No, it's more about the character of the guy.

ITT people have the same character 50 years later.

If anything, Romney was probably a much better person when he was a teenager.

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Also, this probably explains Romney's constant flip-flopping. He doesn't remember this incident, because the government has cleared his memory and installed a new personality in him several times since then.

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From: AlphaRayAllen | #009
Yeah, let's focus on how he's bullying gays now instead.

Hiyo!

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The entire goal of a politician is to present themselves as being a perfect human who has never committed any wrong in his/her life and is capable of making the best possible decisions in any given situation. Of course this will hurt him, I don't think it'll do much, but his whole career is focused on trying to convince us that he's a great person who knows what is best for the country, and now we find out he was an ******* in high school.

Honestly speaking, I couldn't give a **** less if Anthony Weiner wanted to send girls dick pics, but apparently that makes him unfit to be a member of congress. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple people read this and now think Romney is unfit to be President.

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this might actually HELP romney with some people in this ****ing country tbqh


but where it will hurt is with gay donors and the youth vote. with obama coming out for gay marriage and romney against it in addition to this kind of news story about him, obama pretty much gets all gay support. and with how prevalent the issue of gay bullying is to youth now, lots of young people are going to think twice about wanting to support not only romney but republicans in general if they are labelled as the party of those who behave like this.

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“Aren’t there — aren’t there issues of significance that you’d like to talk about?” Romney said, cutting off the CBS reporter.

This could hurt him.

Not really. There really are areas of more significance than this like, as someone said, how he's bullying gays NOW. The people who would be offended by this already don't like Romney. I don't think any true liberal doubted that he was a bully in middle school or high school and I don't think any true conservative really cares.

This is just like when that Obama joint picture came out. Conservatives were all like "OH MY GOD CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS" and liberals were all like "uhh, yeah".

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Ah conservatives. Love turning a blind eye when its convenient.

Obama now has every gay vote, and pretty much every minority vote.

I have absolutely no love for the Republican party and especially not Romney, but can we really judge a a guy in his 60s based on how he was when he was a teenager? I'm 24 and I'm pretty dissimilar to my 17 year old self. Most people's brain isn't done fully developing personality until they're in their mid 20s.

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There's plenty of reason to judge someones past if the other side is so adamant that it matters. Otherwise it only matters when it suits their interests.

Conservatives often like to bring up Obama's distant past, like how he ate a dog once because that was normal food where he lived at the time, or how he went to school in Indonesia which is *gasp* an Islamic nation.

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But there's no reason to...People are unreasonable...

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It's also nice to know that Romney considers the whole medical marijuana thing irrelevant, and if he's elected we won't see anything done about that issue for four more years

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the thing is that literally nobody at any point in mitt romneys life seems to actually like mitt romney and if they do they sure aren't saying it publicly

the people dont like him, the other politicians hate him, anyone who knew him in school seems to hate him, etc.

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ScorpioVS posted...
I don't think any true liberal doubted that he was a bully in middle school or high school

I'm quite far left (left wing by Canadian standards) and I'm actively surprised. Romney struck me as nerdy and a little out-of-touch (at least with people who make less than a million a year). I would've expected him to make a clueless statement like "Well if the homeless can't afford a house, why don't they buy a yacht? Or get a job?" I did not expect physical assault.

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Robazoid posted...
There's plenty of reason to judge someones past if the other side is so adamant that it matters. Otherwise it only matters when it suits their interests.

Conservatives often like to bring up Obama's distant past, like how he ate a dog once because that was normal food where he lived at the time, or how he went to school in Indonesia which is *gasp* an Islamic nation.

Serious bro? So if republicans do it it must be ok?

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Errr...yeah, it is dumb that Republicans brought up things Obama did when he was in his teens.

That doesn't mean that this also isn't dumb. Yeah, this makes young Romney sound like a bit of a jerk, but who didn't do something unnecessarily jerky when they were in their teens?

Plus, the kid wasn't out of the closet at the time of the incident. Romney just didn't like his face.

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masterplum posted...
Robazoid posted...
There's plenty of reason to judge someones past if the other side is so adamant that it matters. Otherwise it only matters when it suits their interests.

Conservatives often like to bring up Obama's distant past, like how he ate a dog once because that was normal food where he lived at the time, or how he went to school in Indonesia which is *gasp* an Islamic nation.

Serious bro? So if republicans do it it must be ok?

You're right, good politics would be to let one side dominate the dirty tactics with ridiculous accusations that don't make sense while ignoring valid opportunities to use similar tactics and expose them as hypocrites, because it's the right thing to do.

wait no that's awful politics

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Plus, the kid wasn't out of the closet at the time of the incident. Romney just didn't like his face.

this part is stupid

yeah cause nobody has ever picked on a gay kid in high school because he was gay even though he wasn't out of the closet yet

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From what I hear, this incident isn't confirmed or even likely. Only one source who wasn't even there when it happened.

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From: JDTAY | #032
From what I hear, this incident isn't confirmed or even likely. Only one source who wasn't even there when it happened.

"Five students from the time offered corroborating accounts of the incident, four of them on the record. "It happened very quickly, and to this day it troubles me," said Thomas Buford, the school's wrestling champion and now a retired prosecutor, who said he joined Romney in restraining Lauber."

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Robazoid posted...
You're right, good politics would be to let one side dominate the dirty tactics with ridiculous accusations that don't make sense while ignoring valid opportunities to use similar tactics and expose them as hypocrites, because it's the right thing to do.

wait no that's awful politics

Depends on how intelligent your voterbase is. In Canada, if you run a campaign based on personal attacks, you will have a number of people voting against you because they feel like you're dodging the real issues and don't have substantiative things to say about policies.

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yeah cause nobody has ever picked on a gay kid in high school because he was gay even though he wasn't out of the closet yet

this part is stupid

Look, if you feel comfortable ascribing motives to individuals based on absolutely nothing, then be my guest. I'm not saying this never happens, but, at least in the story, there is nothing to indicate this is the case yet. The dudes that are ratting him out specifically say he did it because he didn't like the kid's hair. What reason would they have for:

1) Bringing up the fact that Romney assaulted someone in high school
2) Protecting Romney by not mentioning the fact that it was also basically a hate crime

Like I said, this definitely wasn't a good thing to do and, yes, gay kids are unfairly bullied in high school even if they aren't officially out yet. I tend to not ascribe awful motives to people unless presented with substantial evidence to do so, but maybe I'm crazy.

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uh i wasn't saying romney definitely did it because he was gay

i was saying that YOU were saying that romney clearly didn't know he was gay and just "didn't like his face", when it is entirely possible that romney did know he was gay because a lot of the time that is pretty obvious. there may be no reason to believe that, but there is no reason to discount it either, especially given that romney has bigoted stances on gay issues.

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CycloRaptor posted...
uh i wasn't saying romney definitely did it because he was gay

i was saying that YOU were saying that romney clearly didn't know he was gay and just "didn't like his face", when it is entirely possible that romney did know he was gay because a lot of the time that is pretty obvious. there may be no reason to believe that, but there is no reason to discount it either, especially given that romney has bigoted stances on gay issues.

Romney's been back and forth on gay issues depending on what was politically convenient for him. As governor of Massachusetts, for instance, he made some pro-gay statements.

I believe Romney's current anti-gay stances only slightly more than I believed Obama's anti gay marriage stances in 2008.

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I believe Romney's current anti-gay stances only slightly more than I believed Obama's anti gay marriage stances in 2008.

I believe it much more. Romney is the type who will say whatever will get him elected, and I attribute his pro-gay statements in Massachusetts were the result of this. Nobody would actually say the things he is saying if they believed in gay marriage, at best he does not care either way. Obama is the type that probably believed in gay marriage but felt that it was not politically viable as a position at the time. Even when he said he was against it, his statements were vague and hinted as possible future change, rather than Romney spouting the same old anti-gay rhetoric. There is no wink and a hint with him.

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You seriously can't believe a single thing that Romney says. He's probably one of the biggest liars to get the presidential nomination.

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You seriously can't believe a single thing that Romney says. He's probably one of the biggest liars to get the presidential nomination.

Clinton? Nixon?

You gotta realize that the pool of "politicians that were huge liars" goes really, really deep.

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Romney also supports abusing teenagers for profit:

http://wwaspdiaries.com/2011/10/07/the-mitt-romney-troubled-teen-connection/

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From: Suprak the Stud | #040
Clinton? Nixon?

You gotta realize that the pool of "politicians that were huge liars" goes really, really deep.

I said "one of" :)

And Clinton/Nixon weren't so much big liars as much as they just told huge lies. I don't know that Romney tells any huge lies, but pretty much everything he says is a lie.

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