It's time for another installment of "1000 Ways to Lose a Basketball Game" starring Lebron James! The game starts in less that a half hour on ABC! Get your damn popcorn ready, the fun could start anytime (but the fireworks are most likely to begin in the 4th Quarter)
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TheConductorSix posted... I wonder when people will finally appreciate Lebron for how amazing he is. I wonder if it will take Til he's gone for it to happen.
Literally the only things that matter in team sports are championships. If you don't win titles, you aren't allowed to even be in the GOAT discussion.
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That's how good Lebron is. Peoples negative comments show just how high we think of him.
It's GOAT or bust. We don't even assume top 10 or anything. It's always he's not the greatest of all time until he wins titles. He's a top 20 player without them and he's only 27.
It could be Lebron and 8 kids and we'd expect them to contend. The man is incredible.
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TheConductorSix posted... That's how good Lebron is. Peoples negative comments show just how high we think of him.
It's GOAT or bust. We don't even assume top 10 or anything. It's always he's not the greatest of all time until he wins titles. He's a top 20 player without them and he's only 27.
It could be Lebron and 8 kids and we'd expect them to contend. The man is incredible.
Who is the greatest basketball player ever without a ring (besides LBJ)?
I guarantee you I can name at least 25 players better than them, all because they helped lead their teams to titles.
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Lebron's pretty clearly the best regular season player in basketball. it's that weird vanishing act he does when push comes to shove that stops him from being thought of in that category.
if he has just one excellent postseason -- think Dirk last year -- he instantly vaults to top 10 GOAT status. until then, though, he stays behind Kobe and Duncan.
Realo is 100% accurate here. Wade has been awful all playoffs, Lebron is an insane talent. Sure he doesn't have a ring but the fourth best player on his team right now is who...Haslem? Miller? I don't even know. He literally has two players with any skill on his team right now and they are both guards. He's playing 40 minutes out of position and killing it, and people get surprised when he's a little tired and not playing his best at the end of games.
Realo i am curious of your take on the sixers.
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Take this for what you will, but in Bill Simmons's book, he ranks the best 96 players in history, and he has Elgin Baylor at #14 as the best of all-time with no ring.
Then Malone (#18), Barkley (#19), LeBron (#20), and Stockton (#24) to round out that top 5.
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Jakyl25 posted... Take this for what you will, but in Bill Simmons's book, he ranks the best 96 players in history, and he has Elgin Baylor at #14 as the best of all-time with no ring.
Then Malone (#18), Barkley (#19), LeBron (#20), and Stockton (#24) to round out that top 5.
ohh right, Hot Karl is probably the greatest without a ring... Elgin Baylor was crippled for half his career so he is somewhat forgiven.
Regardless, Karl is not top 20
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Please remember that everyone in the top 10 had amazing teams
Jordan has the best team for 5 out of the 6 rings Bird and Magic had the best teams every single year until the late 80s when the Pistons stepped up. Wilt and Russell same thing Moses Malone's Sixers were second to only the Lakers and Celtics
Lebrons best player for 7 years was...mo Williams?
Getting to the Finals with Cleveland was worth a title by itself.
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TheConductorSix posted... Please remember that everyone in the top 10 had amazing teams
Jordan has the best team for 5 out of the 6 rings Bird and Magic had the best teams every single year until the late 80s when the Pistons stepped up. Wilt and Russell same thing Moses Malone's Sixers were second to only the Lakers and Celtics
Lebrons best player for 7 years was...mo Williams?
Getting to the Finals with Cleveland was worth a title by itself.
If he continues not winning with Dwayne F***ing Wade, then there is NO excuse.
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No, see, the difference between 2004 and 2007 was that the Pistons played the exact type of game they needed to (shut down Kobe, let Shaq get his) whereas in 2007 the Pistons benched Nazr in favor of no-knees Chris Webber when the two biggest things they needed in that series was rebounding and blocks.
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