Board 8 > Judge recommends banning of US Xbox 360

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ninkendo
05/23/12 5:06:00 AM
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-05-23-judge-recommends-us-xbox-360-ban

A judge has recommended that the Xbox 360 be banned in the US.

Courthouse News reports that Judge David Shaw said the International Trade Commission should use a cease and desist order to ban imports of the Xbox 360 Slim 4GB and 250GB models into the US because, in his view, they infringe on four patents owned by Motorola.

He also wants Microsoft to post a bond equal to seven per cent of the value of unsold Xbox 360s in the US.

The patents at the heart of the dispute revolve around how the Xbox 360 decodes video content. Motorola claims ownership on the tech powering this.

Reacting to this latest decision, Microsoft argued the ban would not serve the public interest because it would leave consumers with only two home console options: the PlayStation 3 and the Nintendo Wii. But the judge rejected the claim, saying it was more important to enforce intellectual property rights. Plus, he wasn't convinced Sony and Nintendo wouldn't be able to meet increased demand.

Microsoft said the suggested seven per cent bond was unnecessary, and recommended it be reduced to 2.5 per cent. Motorola wants it increased to a whopping 100 per cent of the value of the unsold Xbox 360s.

So what happens next in this long-running, complex patent dispute? If the ITC makes the judge's recommendation final, President Barack Obama will then have 60 days to review the decision. After that period expires, the next step is the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.

Earlier this month a US judge accused the warring factions of using the US District Court as "a pawn in a global, industry-wide business negotiation".

Judge James Robart said both sides were clearly "driven by an attempt to secure commercial advantage". "To an outsider looking at it, it has been arbitrary, it has been arrogant and frankly it has been based on hubris," he said.

A German court has already ruled in favour of Motorola, granting an injunction prohibiting sales of the console in the country. However, Robart issued a temporary restraining order preventing Motorola from enforcing that decision.


PATENT WARZ

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OmarsComin
05/23/12 5:09:00 AM
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there are literally no good guys involved in this situation

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pjbasis
05/23/12 5:12:00 AM
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Wow that would suck.

Could they just rerelease it without whatever it is that they're being sued for?

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Djungelurban
05/23/12 5:23:00 AM
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Patents run out after 5 years after initial introduction, make it happen...

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Kotetsu534
05/23/12 5:23:00 AM
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Looks like MS will have to pay Motorola off at some point.

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CycloRaptor
05/23/12 5:25:00 AM
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there are literally no good guys involved in this situation

duh it is literally two for-profit corporations

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OmarsComin
05/23/12 5:27:00 AM
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and a US court

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Pram_the_Oracle
05/23/12 5:32:00 AM
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100% huh.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/23/12 5:35:00 AM
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100% seems fair.

Because clearly the only thing the 360 does is utilize the borrowed software to decode video content. The system doesn't do ANYTHING else.

I know that's why I planned to get a 360.

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wg64Z
05/23/12 6:00:00 AM
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Lol US.
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Raka_Putra
05/23/12 6:01:00 AM
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Oh...

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GuessMyUserName
05/23/12 6:14:00 AM
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sounds good!

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/23/12 7:37:00 AM
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Can we ban the Wii for infringing on patents of Kohler and other toilet manufacturers? All I do is put the turd logs Nintendo calls "video games" into it so they have an argument.

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JDTAY
05/23/12 7:40:00 AM
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MRNlCEWATCH posted...
Can we ban the Wii for infringing on patents of Kohler and other toilet manufacturers? All I do is put the turd logs Nintendo calls "video games" into it so they have an argument.


Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 literally second and third best game of all time according to GameRankings. Then again, they have GTA IV at 4, so maybe they don't count.

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pjbasis
05/23/12 7:41:00 AM
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LMSTAY

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/23/12 7:43:00 AM
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JDTAY posted...
MRNlCEWATCH posted...
Can we ban the Wii for infringing on patents of Kohler and other toilet manufacturers? All I do is put the turd logs Nintendo calls "video games" into it so they have an argument.


Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 literally second and third best game of all time according to GameRankings. Then again, they have GTA IV at 4, so maybe they don't count.


Yeah man, those are definitely 2 of the 3 greatest games of all time.

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Gwindor
05/23/12 7:44:00 AM
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mother ****ing software ****ing patents.

ruining the whole ****ing world.

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Ayuyu
05/23/12 7:44:00 AM
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I think sess doesn't grasp the concept of opinion.

Or he's trolling as always.

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/23/12 7:46:00 AM
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Ayuyu posted...
I think sess doesn't grasp the concept of opinion.

Or he's trolling as always.


It's established fact that the Wii is trash, sorry.

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pjbasis
05/23/12 7:46:00 AM
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The Galaxy games being fantastic doesn't stop the Wii from being a crappy system.

And I believe there are more great games on the Wii than just those two as well.

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Justin_Crossing
05/23/12 7:47:00 AM
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OF ALL TIME

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GuessMyUserName
05/23/12 7:50:00 AM
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come on guys you don't have to give into to such obvious trolling

I mean holy crap it's not even related to the topic at hand

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Ayuyu
05/23/12 7:50:00 AM
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<p>From: MRNlCEWATCH | #019
Ayuyu posted...
I think sess doesn't grasp the concept of opinion.

Or he's trolling as always.

It's established fact that the Wii is trash, sorry.</p>

Okay trolling.

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/23/12 7:50:00 AM
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GuessMyUserName posted...
come on guys you don't have to give into to such obvious trolling

I mean holy crap it's not even related to the topic at hand


This is like saying the people who say "Hitler was bad" are trolling

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Pram_the_Oracle
05/23/12 7:51:00 AM
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Well. Both topics went off rail.

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JDTAY
05/23/12 7:51:00 AM
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Oh man, I might need to buy a 360 now that they're going to be banned. It's gonna take me at least five weeks though, and that's if I only want a crappy 4GB model.

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WazzupGenius00
05/23/12 7:56:00 AM
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kinda hope it actually happens to help raise anti-patent-law sentiment among consumers so we can see some reform
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CalvinbalI
05/23/12 8:03:00 AM
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<p>From: Gwindor | #017
mother ****ing software ****ing patents.

ruining the whole ****ing world.</p>

Seriously, software patents have put a complete stranglehold on the U.S. software development community, Unless Microsoft actually rooted a Motorola device, decoded the compiled software, and copied/pasted the relevant code into their own product, they shouldn't be at any fault.

There's a great This American Life episode about software patents that you can listen to or read.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack

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SmartMuffin
05/23/12 8:09:00 AM
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<p>From: MRNlCEWATCH | #024
GuessMyUserName posted...
come on guys you don't have to give into to such obvious trolling

I mean holy crap it's not even related to the topic at hand

This is like saying the people who say "Hitler was bad" are trolling</p>

HEY! That's just like, your opinion man!

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MRNlCEWATCH
05/23/12 8:11:00 AM
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SmartMuffin posted...
<p>From: MRNlCEWATCH | #024
GuessMyUserName posted...
come on guys you don't have to give into to such obvious trolling

I mean holy crap it's not even related to the topic at hand

This is like saying the people who say "Hitler was bad" are trolling</p>

HEY! That's just like, your opinion man!


Hitler wasn't a bad man! The Wii was a good console!

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SmartMuffin
05/23/12 8:12:00 AM
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FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL

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MarvelousGerbil
05/23/12 8:27:00 AM
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<p>From: SmartMuffin | #031
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL</p>

Then your point of view is stupid.

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KingButz
05/23/12 8:28:00 AM
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<p>From: MarvelousGerbil | #032
<p>From: SmartMuffin | #031
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL</p>

Then your point of view is stupid.</p>

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MarvelousGerbil
05/23/12 8:31:00 AM
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I was replying with what Obi Wan should have said...

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Raka_Putra
05/23/12 8:32:00 AM
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But it's just around the riverbeeeend.

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Pram_the_Oracle
05/23/12 8:33:00 AM
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Well, irrelevant things, whether true or not, are annoying.

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KingButz
05/23/12 8:34:00 AM
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Don't lecture me, MarvelousGerbil. I see through the lies of the Jedi. I do not fear the dark side as you do!

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MarvelousGerbil
05/23/12 8:39:00 AM
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Whatever KingButz, I has the high ground. It's over.

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