Board 8 > I thought Fallout 3 was supposed to be good

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It is.

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Why does it take 10 bullets to kill a dog?

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MZero the extreme
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Are you using VATs? Aim for the head. And use a more powerful gun that you're skilled for. I dunno.

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its an rpg. not a realism simulator.

also those are MUTANT RADIATED DOG MONSTERS

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MZero11 posted...

Why does it take 10 bullets to kill a dog?

Because you have low Agility/Small Guns? (I assume you're using the pistol that you get handed in Vault 101 by Amata)

You're SPECIAL/stats would be useful here.

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I thought it was good.

FAHtastic posted...

Are you using VATs?

This took me a little to figure this out. But good Lord, the best advice ever right here. Find it out early.

Also, all of your apparent weaknesses early becomes strengths later. Great leveling system.

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Hmm idk what a VAT is >_>

Will leveling up also fix the lack of music and color, and are all the areas as boring looking as the Wasteland?

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VATs is the lock-on system, where you can choose where your bullets will go. Use it, abuse it.

Music is kinda limited throughout. You get a few radio stations on your Pipboy, but they only have a handful of songs each. And the Wasteland is...well, a wasteland.

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It's really not that good.

Ok, it's good in terms of "hey this is a decent wRPG but this a lot of peoples first wRPG so they think it's amazing" but it's incredibly mediocre to anyone familiar with the genre.

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Aecioo posted...

It's really not that good.

Ok, it's good in terms of "hey this is a decent wRPG but this a lot of peoples first wRPG so they think it's amazing" but it's incredibly mediocre to anyone familiar with the genre.

Uh, no.

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i believe this game has everything you are looking for
http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/939614-miss-popularity

you want color? you can go to the salon and change your hair color
music? you can get yourself a sensitive type boyfriend who plays the guitar and all that
and the best news of all, there's no dogs to kill

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VATs is one of the things they taught you about in the tutorial that lets you target specific body parts or enemies and attack them automatically.

Music can be turned on through your PIPBOY.

The Wasteland is only as boring as you make it. Try exploring a little bit.

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MZero11 posted...

Hmm idk what a VAT is >_>

Will leveling up also fix the lack of music and color, and are all the areas as boring looking as the Wasteland?

Just keep pushing buttons until you find VATS (I don't know which system you're on)

There's a s*** ton of music. Turn on the radio in your pipboy. (There's also a quest for a third station, and to make the main radio station sound better quality wise)

Color isn't there because it's a wasteland. >_>

As for boring areas, of course outside won't be too exciting (Though there are a ton of interesting areas outside once you explore past Megaton). Start exploring buildings and doing quests.

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The best thing about Fallout 3 is the music.

I don't wanna set the world on fire..

Hell yes.

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Ayuyu posted...

The best thing about Fallout 3 is the music.

I don't wanna set the world on fire..

Hell yes.

Look, I love FO3's music as much as the next guy (And probably much more. I never realized how awesome the 40's was musically until I played it).

But come on, the best thing? I'm afraid not.

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Well after playing New Vegas you can't really go back to Fallout 3.

So yeah except the music everything is mediocre for me now.

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Ayuyu posted...

Well after playing New Vegas you can't really go back to Fallout 3.

So yeah except the music everything is mediocre for me now.

Eh...

I mean, I agree that FONV has a better story, and better gameplay. But the setting and buildings/tunnels/caves/etc. in FO3 were objectively superior.

I don't know, they're pretty close in quality, IMO.

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It was fun, though if you spend too much time exploring it can get repetitive. Eventually you'll be picking up the same things way too often, and you will be clearing out future quest areas. My suggestion is to enjoy the story. Play it as you would want to if a real apocalypse were to happen. I think that's the best way to enjoy it.

Both settings were pretty crappy because they don't really make sense.

After so many years nature should've taken back everything and I'm pretty sure it would've looked better.

Ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings?

What about a ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings that are slowly being destroyed completely by plant life?

If anything it should look like the city of New York in the I Am Legend movie but a tad more destroyed.

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Silvercross posted...

VATs is one of the things they taught you about in the tutorial that lets you target specific body parts or enemies and attack them automatically.

Music can be turned on through your PIPBOY.

The Wasteland is only as boring as you make it. Try exploring a little bit.

Oh that's why there was no music....

A Wasteland is not a very interesting place to explore >_> its all shades of brown with broken stuff laying around.... and I'm not a big fan of "exploring" in video games anyway but like, Wastelands are the worst.

I mean I bought this game so I want to like it but so far it's been... not enjoyable.

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i believe this game has everything you are looking for
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you want color? you can go to the salon and change your hair color
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and the best news of all, there's no dogs to kill

But that contradicts SHINE's new game law

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Ayuyu posted...

Both settings were pretty crappy because they don't really make sense.

After so many years nature should've taken back everything and I'm pretty sure it would've looked better.

Ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings?

What about a ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings that are slowly being destroyed completely by plant life?

If anything it should look like the city of New York in the I Am Legend movie but a tad more destroyed.

Well, the way radiation works in the Fallout universe has already been shown to work nothing like it does in real life. Speaking of that, the fact that ALL the water in the Capitol Wasteland is irradiated is what prevents most plant growth (while the Mojave has a lot more plant life because House deflected the nukes aimed at Vegas).

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You bought a game set in a wasteland and where 90% of the game is spent exploring said wasteland and you don't like wastelands or exploring.


Hrm.

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MZero11 posted...

Oh that's why there was no music....

A Wasteland is not a very interesting place to explore >_> its all shades of brown with broken stuff laying around.... and I'm not a big fan of "exploring" in video games anyway but like, Wastelands are the worst.

I mean I bought this game so I want to like it but so far it's been... not enjoyable.

You haven't even been anywhere yet, keep playing

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Ayuyu posted...

Both settings were pretty crappy because they don't really make sense.

After so many years nature should've taken back everything and I'm pretty sure it would've looked better.

Ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings?

What about a ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings that are slowly being destroyed completely by plant life?

If anything it should look like the city of New York in the I Am Legend movie but a tad more destroyed.

Well, the way radiation works in the Fallout universe has already been shown to work nothing like it does in real life. Speaking of that, the fact that ALL the water in the Capitol Wasteland is irradiated is what prevents most plant growth (while the Mojave has a lot more plant life because House deflected the nukes aimed at Vegas).

Pretty sure water wouldn't even be that dangerous after so many year, I mean it filters itself and all. Tchernobyl looks pretty nice now and the water there probably was irradiated a ton!

I mean, look at Prypiat :

Threes everywhere and the explosion was 26 years ago.

In Fallout it's 200 years, the effects shouldn't even be noticeable.

But I guess you're right in saying that in the Fallout universe adiation is ****ed up.

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Ayuyu posted...

Emporer_Kazbar posted...

Ayuyu posted...

Both settings were pretty crappy because they don't really make sense.

After so many years nature should've taken back everything and I'm pretty sure it would've looked better.

Ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings?

What about a ruin of a city full of crumbled buildings that are slowly being destroyed completely by plant life?

If anything it should look like the city of New York in the I Am Legend movie but a tad more destroyed.

Well, the way radiation works in the Fallout universe has already been shown to work nothing like it does in real life. Speaking of that, the fact that ALL the water in the Capitol Wasteland is irradiated is what prevents most plant growth (while the Mojave has a lot more plant life because House deflected the nukes aimed at Vegas).

Pretty sure water wouldn't even be that dangerous after so many year, I mean it filters itself and all. Tchernobyl looks pretty nice now and the water there probably was irradiated a ton!

I mean, look at Prypiat :

Threes everywhere and the explosion was 26 years ago.

In Fallout it's 200 years, the effects shouldn't even be noticeable.

But I guess you're right in saying that in the Fallout universe adiation is ****ed up.

I assume that there are quantitative and qualitative differences between widespread nuclear war and a meltdown in a semi-rural area

ayuyu in fallout like the entire society was destroyed and the water everywhere is irradiated

that is way different then one city being destroyed

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I know what you mean TC.

I played New Vegas (never played FO3) for like 2 hours when I got it, and... it seemed so lackluster. I don't know about the setting and story and everything, but the controls and combat were so clunky. It felt like a chore to play, which meant I didn't really have any desire to explore more than that little town you start in. It's definitely evident that Bethesda made this game.

Maybe it's because I had just finished Call of Pripyat, which is a fantastic and very well-designed game, and has a similar post-apocalyptic open-world, so I was always comparing the games.

Ya all underestimating the awesomeness of nature.

Plants don't really care about radiation past seed life anyway.

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Oh hey ayuyu talking about Pripyat. Yeah obviously the nuclear disaster in FO3 is way bigger than just one nuclear reactor blowing up in real life.

But ayuyu does have a point, he just didn't make it well. If you look at the STALKER games, which involve massive nuclear disasters destroying all civilization, there are still trees:
Chernobyl

Pripyat

foolm0ron posted...

Oh hey ayuyu talking about Pripyat. Yeah obviously the nuclear disaster in FO3 is way bigger than just one nuclear reactor blowing up in real life.

But ayuyu does have a point, he just didn't make it well. If you look at the STALKER games, which involve massive nuclear disasters destroying all civilization, there are still trees:
Chernobyl

Pripyat

oh cool. Stalker

My uncle was the Executive Producer of the Chernobyl one >_>

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MZero11 posted...

foolm0ron posted...

Oh hey ayuyu talking about Pripyat. Yeah obviously the nuclear disaster in FO3 is way bigger than just one nuclear reactor blowing up in real life.

But ayuyu does have a point, he just didn't make it well. If you look at the STALKER games, which involve massive nuclear disasters destroying all civilization, there are still trees:
Chernobyl

Pripyat

oh cool. Stalker

My uncle was the Executive Producer of the Chernobyl one >_>

wat

Is he Ukrainian?
Tell him his game is amazing
Also ask him WHY IS STALKER 2 CANCELED?

Oh wait is he just the executive producer at THQ?
Then tell him "**** you for bankrupting your company and making STALKER 2 get canceled"

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Hmm idk what a VAT is >_>

Will leveling up also fix the lack of music and color, and are all the areas as boring looking as the Wasteland?
It's not for you.

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FFX was so awful because sometimes Tidus would slice his sword across one of those monster-dog things' necks and they'd just stand there.

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Jeff Zero posted...

FFX was so awful because sometimes Tidus would slice his sword across one of those monster-dog things' necks and they'd just stand there.

Hey I didn't say they had to die in one attack

and besides the dogs taking a bunch of hits to kill isn't the main problem it's just the first one I brought up >_>

EDIT: foolmo he's the Executive Producer from THQ >_<

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foolm0ron posted...

I know what you mean TC.

I played New Vegas (never played FO3) for like 2 hours when I got it, and... it seemed so lackluster. I don't know about the setting and story and everything, but the controls and combat were so clunky. It felt like a chore to play, which meant I didn't really have any desire to explore more than that little town you start in. It's definitely evident that Bethesda made this game.

Actually, Obsidian made FNV. Bethesda just published it.

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I guess it's cool if the setting isn't really your thing, but all I could think of when playing Skyrim is that I can't wait for a Fallout game with this engine.

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Yeah, it really just sounds like the setting isn't your cup of tea though. It's supposed to be drab, but if that's not your dig then the chops are gonna be rusty, you grok?

But seriously though, I'd recommend something else. It never gets 'prettier' or 'shinier', and the style of music never really changes. Also, I like the game a lot, but you absolutely do not play it for its 'main' story. Almost every side story in the game is better. >_>

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Jeff Zero posted...

Also, I like the game a lot, but you absolutely do not play it for its 'main' story. Almost every side story in the game is better. >_>

Agreed, especial when your dad dies

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foolm0ron posted...

I know what you mean TC.

I played New Vegas (never played FO3) for like 2 hours when I got it, and... it seemed so lackluster. I don't know about the setting and story and everything, but the controls and combat were so clunky. It felt like a chore to play, which meant I didn't really have any desire to explore more than that little town you start in. It's definitely evident that Bethesda made this game.

Actually, Obsidian made FNV. Bethesda just published it.

As I understand it, the engine and gameplay is largely copied from FO3, though

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I dunno about New Vegas, but there are plenty of trees in many parts of Fallout 3

And that is true several times over if you're playing the GotY edition

foolm0ron posted...

As I understand it, the engine and gameplay is largely copied from FO3, though

Kind of. They changed a lot of things. Also, depending when you played FNV, it'd have been better or worse (the first few months of release or so were a disaster. Tons of glitches and engine problems)

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