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HeroDelTiempo17
06/10/12 4:52:00 PM
#402:


I think Feferi set up the dream bubbles with the Horroterrors after Prospit and Derse were destroyed.

I never really understood why she wasn't the guide through the dream bubbles instead of Aradea.

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Pirateking2000
06/10/12 5:03:00 PM
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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/10/12 6:03:00 PM
#404:


So Hiimdaisy ripoff comics are the new thing now eh?
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kevwaffles
06/10/12 6:40:00 PM
#405:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #402
I think Feferi set up the dream bubbles with the Horroterrors after Prospit and Derse were destroyed.

It was definitely before Derse was destroyed, since she did it as her Dream Self from the skies of Derse. I think that's why she was also the first Dersite causality of Bec Noir.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/10/12 7:13:00 PM
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^I thought she first started talking to the Horrorterrors after her dream self died? It might have been brought up in Alterniabound? But I can't remember.

Update too, that settles the question of how Jake got to Derse. Magical Skaian techno plot device bulls**** everywhere.

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Nogoodnamesnow
06/10/12 7:37:00 PM
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^It said in Hivebent that Feferi was an early waker on Derse, like how Kanaya and Jade were early wakers on Prospit, and implied that she talked to the Horrorterrors pretty much all her life.

Anyway, I guess we should have saw this coming considering Grandpa Harley was using transportalizers like no one's business in the B1 session. There were transportalizers that led to a bunch of places in the B1 session (Off the top of my head, there were some that lead from Prospit and Derse to the planets, and some that lead from the planets to the Veil) though I didn't think there would be transportalizers that lead outside of the session.

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kevwaffles
06/10/12 7:43:00 PM
#408:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #406
^I thought she first started talking to the Horrorterrors after her dream self died?

We didn't know she had done so until the conversation with Jade, in which the end she revealed she had died (completely so). But she had done so before that time.

It's also from Derse that one can communicate with the Horrorterrors. That's why that stuff is always handled by the Derse Dreamers.

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Pirateking2000
06/10/12 8:04:00 PM
#409:


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The mystery of what was in the huge ball thing has been solved

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mnkboy907
06/10/12 9:35:00 PM
#410:


I do hope John and them bust through the window as tiny versions of themselves.

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KanzarisKelshen
06/10/12 9:41:00 PM
#411:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #385
Go read up on Quantum mechanics and come back to me.

Hahahaha, are you f***ing kidding me

Quantum mechanics deal with spatial inaccuracy of subatomic particles, and can ONLY be applied to objects on that scale.

The object we're talking about is, oh, only the ENTIRE FREAKING UNIVERSE!

Seriously dude, you have no idea what you're talking about here. Go read my earlier post again where I explained this stuff to you.


Considering the Homestuck universe has a counterexample set for you on this...yeah, no.

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Altimadark
06/10/12 11:16:00 PM
#412:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Altimadark | #361
KanzarisKelshen posted...
People are assuming that the universe is the same frog for some reason. It's not, and it's really dumb to assume otherwise.

So where is the other frog? I expect you have more than just assumptions to back up your claim.

In the same spot, unaffected by Jack's Red Miles. Things can share a space without being the same thing or being affected by each other.

So what proof do you have of this other frog's existence? I expect you have more than just assumptions to back up your claim.

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KanzarisKelshen
06/10/12 11:32:00 PM
#413:


From: Altimadark | #412
KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Altimadark | #361
So where is the other frog? I expect you have more than just assumptions to back up your claim.

In the same spot, unaffected by Jack's Red Miles. Things can share a space without being the same thing or being affected by each other.

So what proof do you have of this other frog's existence? I expect you have more than just assumptions to back up your claim.


Which one's more logical, that the rules already in place for at least one cosmic object apply to others, or that they don't?

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Altimadark
06/11/12 12:28:00 AM
#414:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Altimadark | #412
KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Altimadark | #361
So where is the other frog? I expect you have more than just assumptions to back up your claim.

In the same spot, unaffected by Jack's Red Miles. Things can share a space without being the same thing or being affected by each other.

So what proof do you have of this other frog's existence? I expect you have more than just assumptions to back up your claim.

Which one's more logical, that the rules already in place for at least one cosmic object apply to others, or that they don't?

The former is more logical. Though I am curious, why do you think it's the latter?

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SantamBraveWii
06/11/12 12:30:00 AM
#415:


this is by far the worst argument to ever happen about something homestuck

It could literally be both, there's really not evidence to support either (although I'm personally on the "it's DD" side of things)

but it literally makes no difference which one it is

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 4:02:00 AM
#416:


The difference that it makes is whether or not the universe will be destroyed.

And this update is just one more confirmation. The "secret" way to get to Derse from Earth is in the Frog Temple, and the Red Miles came from space, so they didn't get to Earth that way.

Those transportalizers were a bit of an asspull as expected, by the way. Entering the game is not supposed to be that easy. It suddenly opens up a lot of insane possibilities, like Derse invading Earth with an army or vice versa.

I hope the transportalizer explodes after one use or something.
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YetAnothrShadow
06/11/12 4:16:00 AM
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kevwaffles
06/11/12 4:25:00 AM
#418:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #416
And this update is just one more confirmation. The "secret" way to get to Derse from Earth is in the Frog Temple, and the Red Miles came from space, so they didn't get to Earth that way.


Yeah, too bad there is no way for things to get from a session to space so it could fall onto earth like a meteor or something. Wait...

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 4:55:00 AM
#419:


^There are no defense portals. Also, Derse is ridiculously far away from Skaia in case you didn't know. Again, if the Red Miles could normally go that far Jack wouldn't even have had to leave Derse to blow up Prospit, and he could have wiped out everything in the trolls' session from where he first appeared.
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kevwaffles
06/11/12 5:10:00 AM
#420:


Okay, first of all, we already knew Jake didn't get there the same way the Red Miles did. That wasn't the time or place they were attacking. We know nothing more than we did before.

Second, not all the portals were the in the immediate Skaian defense grid in the first place. Some occurred right where the meteors left from at The Veil.

From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #419
Again, if the Red Miles could normally go that far Jack wouldn't even have had to leave Derse to blow up Prospit, and he could have wiped out everything in the trolls' session from where he first appeared.

Lastly, you don't understand Jack's personality at all.

I concede the fact that if it is DD's attack, it involves some details we don't know about.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 5:17:00 AM
#421:


But those arguments are irrelevant because the fact remains that there is no reckoning, and no defense portals!
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kevwaffles
06/11/12 5:20:00 AM
#422:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #421
But those arguments are irrelevant because the fact remains that there is no reckoning, and no defense portals!


http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=006605

ROSE: And it's not that there were no meteors whatsoever.
ROSE: Just the vast majority of the destructive onslaught never showed up.
ROSE: But delivering the temple to the site of the forge is still integral to jumpstarting the session.
ROSE: That meteor however could have been propelled through a portal by any means, not just via the reckoning.


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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 5:33:00 AM
#423:


Yes, it seems so likely that the Red Miles would sneak through one of the 9 portals that will eventually appear but most definitely haven't yet because the White Queen has the scepter.

No it doesn't.
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kevwaffles
06/11/12 5:35:00 AM
#424:


What about "by any means" don't you understand? If it is DD's attack, it doesn't involve the Reckoning, and thus the damn scepter, in any way whatsoever.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 5:39:00 AM
#425:


But it's not DD's attack
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kevwaffles
06/11/12 5:50:00 AM
#426:


You could just admit your current logic was flawed knowing that it doesn't hurt your overall theory, instead of hoping you are guessing right and then pretending you knew every little detail correctly later if you are so lucky, or ignoring the whole thing if you aren't. But then you wouldn't be Tak if you did that.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 5:55:00 AM
#427:


I always admit my mistakes. It's just that I rarely make them.

Besides, I have never said that it's impossible for it to be DD's attack. But it's about as likely as Lord English actually being Nepeta by now.
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kevwaffles
06/11/12 5:59:00 AM
#428:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #427
I always admit my mistakes. It's just that I rarely make them.


You're hilarious.

Honestly, for your sake I hope you're just being full of s*** trying to make me mad or something. Because I legitimately feel kind of bad for you if you're serious.

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ninkendo
06/11/12 6:20:00 AM
#429:


people need to stop arguing over detailz and just enjoy that there's finally gameplay again in Homestuck

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kevwaffles
06/11/12 6:22:00 AM
#430:


From: ninkendo | #429
people need to stop arguing over detailz and just enjoy that there's finally gameplay again in Homestuck


Huh?

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Some_Character
06/11/12 6:28:00 AM
#431:


Roxy and Dirk are too powerful to be playable yet it seems. At least until DLC.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 7:32:00 AM
#432:


Because I legitimately feel kind of bad for you if you're serious.

No you don't. That's just a stock response worn as a mask to cover up your delicious tears :D
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Not_an_Owl
06/11/12 9:54:00 AM
#434:


Of course! Because Jake is on an adventure, and adventurers never question what happens to them, they just go with it.

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muddersmilk
06/11/12 9:57:00 AM
#436:


I can't wait for Jade and co. to bust out of that window and then Jade resize them all. Jake (and everyone else nearby) will have a great reaction I'm sure.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/11/12 2:19:00 PM
#437:


From: muddersmilk | #436
I can't wait for Jade and co. to bust out of that window and then Jade resize them all. Jake (and everyone else nearby) will have a great reaction I'm sure.

I was thinking maybe that's how they're going to get bailed out from Derse being destroyed with them on it.

But I don't think that's going to work if we're getting an intermission for each year the kids and trolls are making their trans-universal voyage.

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mnkboy907
06/11/12 2:20:00 PM
#438:


No one ever listens to the glasses...

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tereziWright
06/11/12 2:23:00 PM
#439:


are you b****es ready for Anbroids tomorrow

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KanzarisKelshen
06/11/12 2:28:00 PM
#440:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #419
^There are no defense portals. Also, Derse is ridiculously far away from Skaia in case you didn't know. Again, if the Red Miles could normally go that far Jack wouldn't even have had to leave Derse to blow up Prospit, and he could have wiped out everything in the trolls' session from where he first appeared.


Is it now

Wasn't it the same distance as Prospit? Which, y'know, crashed into Skaia?

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/11/12 2:33:00 PM
#441:


Derse is beyond the Veil of asteroids.

Prospit orbits Skaia closely, then the planets orbit it, then the asteroid belt, then Derse. That's why Prospit Dreamers see visions in the clouds of Skaia while Derse Dreamers talk to the Horroterrors.

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KanzarisKelshen
06/11/12 2:34:00 PM
#442:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #441
Derse is beyond the Veil of asteroids.

Prospit orbits Skaia closely, then the planets orbit it, then the asteroid belt, then Derse. That's why Prospit Dreamers see visions in the clouds of Skaia while Derse Dreamers talk to the Horroterrors.


Is that so? Didn't the old flashes showcase Derse at an equivalent distance from Skaia than Prospit? Like way back in Acts...wanna say three or four?

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/11/12 2:36:00 PM
#443:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #442
Is that so? Didn't the old flashes showcase Derse at an equivalent distance from Skaia than Prospit? Like way back in Acts...wanna say three or four?

Nope.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=003568

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KanzarisKelshen
06/11/12 2:49:00 PM
#444:


Alright, gotcha. I stand corrected then.

EDIT: Holy crap there's a brief GCAT flash in the Jack: Ascend flash. DAMN!

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 2:58:00 PM
#445:


That's because DNA consists of molecules starting with those 4 letters, and Rose wrote Becquerel's DNA code in her journal using the letters M E O W as substitutes for G C A T, which is what Jack: Ascend shows. In case you hadn't noticed, all the kids and trolls also have chat handles composed of the combinations of those letters.

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KanzarisKelshen
06/11/12 3:39:00 PM
#446:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #445
That's because DNA consists of molecules starting with those 4 letters, and Rose wrote Becquerel's DNA code in her journal using the letters M E O W as substitutes for G C A T, which is what Jack: Ascend shows. In case you hadn't noticed, all the kids and trolls also have chat handles composed of the combinations of those letters.

See, this is why you shouldn't get into arguments. You don't know anything.


Or you're just an idiot (also a smug killjoy, but that goes without saying) and failed to appreciate the funny correlation between MEOW and the God CAT. But then again, you forgot about the Green Sun when we had our previous argument, so maybe you should just be quiet.

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Paratroopa1
06/11/12 4:06:00 PM
#447:


Holy s*** you guys are funny.
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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/11/12 4:10:00 PM
#448:


Uhhh

Everyone knew about that correlation.

Everyone except you.

The GCat was named specifically for that pun. Also, the letters used for its genetic code are BARK, to complete the circle. I assume you didn't know that.

Also, you're mistaking me for someone else if you think I'd forget anything about the Green Sun.

Now I'm tired of dumb arguments so let's just wait until the comic confirms the Red Miles thing so we can all laugh and point at you and the others who think it's DD's attack.
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GeneralKenobi85
06/11/12 5:14:00 PM
#449:


Fandoms gone wild

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tereziWright
06/11/12 5:17:00 PM
#450:


Tearing this family apart

Can't you guys just ship like the rest of us

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