Board 8 > Uh, so the Iron Man 3 villain. (spoilers)

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What the f*** is going on?

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I thought it was decided that he was just a side character and that the Mandarin was the villain?

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Um, correct me if I'm wrong but... isn't that kind of impossible given movie licensing?

Although I'm completely ignorant of the Marvel Comics universe, isn't that Norman Osborn?

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I heard it was Coldblood played by Chase from 24.

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You guys really didn't expect the Spider-Man reboot to tie into the Avengers universe?

Do they still use Mandarin in modern comics? The name seems like something that would only be socially acceptable 50 years ago.

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From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #007
You guys really didn't expect the Spider-Man reboot to tie into the Avengers universe?
Considering Marvel Studios doesn't have the rights to use Spider-man stuff in their movies, no I didn't.

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From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #007
You guys really didn't expect the Spider-Man reboot to tie into the Avengers universe?
Considering that if Marvel even entertains the idea of making a Spider-Man movie, Sony Pictures will sue their pants off?

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From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #007
You guys really didn't expect the Spider-Man reboot to tie into the Avengers universe?
Given that Sony owns the film rights to Spiderman at the moment, no, I don't.

Besides, Osborn isn't supposed to be in the Spiderman reboot yet.

From: MarvelousGerbil | #008
Do they still use Mandarin in modern comics? The name seems like something that would only be socially acceptable 50 years ago.
Apparently he's a terrorist to the chinese, is how they're "making it work".

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But even the name alone. I don't think that the Chinese would want to name someone called "The Mandarin" as a villain. I'm ok with the lore, but the name bugs me. On an unrelated note, I know he's not in The Avengers, but does anyone know if War Machine is coming back?

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Well, Rhodey is, but I dunno about War Machine.

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Iron Patriot is the most hilarious/best thing marvel has done ever

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Considering that if Marvel even entertains the idea of making a Spider-Man movie, Sony Pictures will sue their pants off?

What, really? Sony owns the rights to Spiderman, who is a Marvel character? When did that happen? The Spiderman trilogy had Marvel plastered all over it. Is it because Marvel was bought by Disney?

From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #015
Considering that if Marvel even entertains the idea of making a Spider-Man movie, Sony Pictures will sue their pants off?

What, really? Sony owns the rights to Spiderman, who is a Marvel character? When did that happen? The Spiderman trilogy had Marvel plastered all over it. Is it because Marvel was bought by Disney?
When they bought it. Ages ago. The spiderman trilogy was Sony too. Actually a fair bit of the problem was caused by Sony being in charge, as I recall. Don't know exactly when Sony got their hands on it, but the rights were initially sold from marvel back in the 80s.

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Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...

Considering that if Marvel even entertains the idea of making a Spider-Man movie, Sony Pictures will sue their pants off?

What, really? Sony owns the rights to Spiderman, who is a Marvel character? When did that happen? The Spiderman trilogy had Marvel plastered all over it. Is it because Marvel was bought by Disney?

Sony has the movie license, just like how Fox has Xmen.

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Sony owns the movie rights. It's stupid but Marvel doesn't own the rights to make Spider-Man, X-men, or Fantastic Four movies, or to include those characters in any other movies they make.

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Sony owns the Spider-Man movie rights. They have for years. IIRC, Marvel was doing bad financially in the 90s and they had to sell off a bunch of movie rights to save themselves

Anyway, this should be interesting. All the rumors I've seen say it's gonna be a mix of Extremis and Armor Wars.

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Iron Patriot is the most hilarious/best thing marvel has done ever

Frankencastle.

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Stan Lee should just go for broke and insist that Stripperella join The Avengers.

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Didn't Marvel reobtain Ghostrider, Punisher, and Blade?

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From: MarvelousGerbil | #023
Didn't Marvel reobtain Ghostrider, Punisher, and Blade?
Yeah, but they're cheap junk no one cares about. Big names like the fantastic four, spiderman, and x-men? That's gonna cost a LOT of money, even assuming Sony's willing to sell.

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From: MarvelousGerbil | #021
Stan Lee should just go for broke and insist that Stripperella join The Avengers.


If you've seen the round table discussion with the cast and joss whedon about the Avengers.... Samuel L. Jackson would definitely support this.


But yeah, Marvel sold the rights to make movies of the X Men and Fantastic Four to Fox, and Spider Man to Sony. They used the money from these deals to pay for the whole Avengers shebang starting with Iron Man.

They don't have the rights forever; if they stop making movies about those characters the license will expire. That's actually the reason Sony is making that new Spider Man movie; if they don't do it by 2013 the license will revert to Marvel. And you know Marvel would jump all over that.

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Fair enough, I was just seeing if I remembered that correctly. I do think it's hilarious that Fox is too stupid to realize that nobody gives a damn about Daredevil.

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Is it known for certain that's actually Iron Patriot, and just like a new one-off suit for Tony that's a reference to it?

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It could be Iron Patriot without being Norman Osborn. Guy Pearce is playing Aldrich Killian or whoever, put that ****er in the suit. Because while Norman Osborn is a Spider-Man character and would be included under the Sony license, his Iron Patriot identity is an Avengers character and would not be.

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Yeah I don't understand why it's so difficult for it to simply NOT be Osborn.

Seems pretty simple to me.

And Armor Wars is going on.

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Also they seem to have altered the Iron Patriot design.

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Movie:


My hope is that they did this because Tony will be wearing a Silver Centurion variant again and they wanted Iron Patriot to look more different. Love the Silver Centurion look, Tony didn't get to wear it nearly enough in IM2.

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Whoa, didn't realize this movie was already coming next May.

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From: CeraSeptem | #029
Yeah I don't understand why it's so difficult for it to simply NOT be Osborn.

Seems pretty simple to me.

And Armor Wars is going on.
Because there's no point in it being Iron Patriot (short of just being an armor cameo) if it's not Osborn, basically.

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They probably just want armor. It's already been designed, therefore they'll use it.

I don't see any particular reason it has to be Osborn, honestly.

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Steve Rogers as The Iron Patriot... except he's a hero and he helps fight The Mandarin who will actually go by code name Yellow Fury, which will of course offend Nick Fury.

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Iron Patriot "not really needing to be Osborn" is the same as Iron Man "not really needing to be Tony Stark".
Ya just don't do it.

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From: MarvelousGerbil | #034
Steve Rogers as The Iron Patriot... except he's a hero and he helps fight The Mandarin who will actually go by code name Yellow Fury, which will of course offend Nick Fury.
... is that related to Golden Fury?



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Is the Silver Centurion armor what he wore on the race track in Monaco?

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Xiahou Shake posted...

Iron Patriot "not really needing to be Osborn" is the same as Iron Man "not really needing to be Tony Stark".
Ya just don't do it.

There's also no point to it being Norman Osborn without the entire Dark Reign, which doesn't make sense following The Avengers instead of Secret Invasion. This is pretty clearly a different character and possibly just an armor cameo. If IM3 is Armor Wars, expect to see tons of those.

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I'd say it's most likely something from the company that rivals Stark (Hammer?) since he made all those automated suits in the second movie. Or hell, even the US Army taking matters into their own hands in case The Avengers ever go rogue.

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Iron Patriot "not really needing to be Osborn" is the same as Iron Man "not really needing to be Tony Stark".
Ya just don't do it.

I disagree. The armor itself was largely insignificant to the story. Putting it on someone else doesn't really affect anything for me.

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Avengers vs Dark Avengers.


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Don't the rights to Fantastic Four revert back to Marvel soon? I don't see Fox lining up a new one of those anytime soon.

EDIT: Nevermind, I just looked it up, and Fox IS doing a reboot on the series in the next couple years. Augh.

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Fox is making plans for a new Fantastic Four movie soon, with the director of Chronicle in charge, IIRC.

And I'm pretty sure it was reported that the guy in the suit is Eric Savin, AKA Coldblood. So it's just a design inspired by Iron Patriot (or Detroit Steel). He probably won't even be called anything besides Eric Savin; maybe Coldblood.

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I see Fox is gonna reboot Daredevil too just to keep THAT license.

Seriously, if they own X-Men, Daredevil, AND the Fantastic Four they should just go ahead and do their own crossover Marvel character series once these F4 and Daredevil reboots hit.

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So it would seem [Eric] Savin will start out good (Iron Patriot) and then turn bad (Coldblood).

He’s expected to team up with a second cyborg named Firepower, both of whom are under the orders of The Mandarin (Ben Kingsley) and Aldrich Killian (Guy Pearce)

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Jakyl25 posted...

I see Fox is gonna reboot Daredevil too just to keep THAT license.

Seriously, if they own X-Men, Daredevil, AND the Fantastic Four they should just go ahead and do their own crossover Marvel character series once these F4 and Daredevil reboots hit.

i could see an X-Men F4 crossover but Daredevil doesn't really fit in with either franchise

and i highly doubt Fox could pull off something akin to the Avengers

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Yeah Fox has a lot of Marvel properties but nothing useful for a crossover really. Like I don't think X-Men, Daredevil, and the FF really team up very much. Too bad they don't have Spider-Man, because he teams up with all those guys so he could tie it all together. But without him, it just doesn't work.

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