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ExTha's greatest fears have come true, the males of this country literally fantasize about being abused by women

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No false claims of rape are not as bad as rape what is wrong with you.

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From: dethfdddddh | #048

MRAs (Men's Rights Activists)

What the hell is this a real thing?

I can't wait until the "masculinist" movement becomes big and I can make fun of it

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http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights

of course reddit also has subreddits for beating women and dead children but mens rights has a decent amount of subscribers

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From: dethfdddddh | #048
I have yet to see a left-wing MRA
whassup.

From: foolm0ron | #053
I can't wait until the "masculinist" movement becomes big and I can make fun of it


lol

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there's no movement, really. There's just awareness raising about the misandry going on, and guys learning how to adapt to the current climate. Or expatriating like I'm going to!

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ExThaNemesis posted...

there's no movement, really. There's just awareness raising about the misandry going on, and guys learning how to adapt to the current climate. Or expatriating like I'm going to!

The pendulum is still swinging. For the longest time we were on one harmful extreme, and then the intensity of the women's rights movements throughout the 20th century swung the social climate all the way to the other extreme. Things will find a proper balance in due time.

Until then, however, we should try and make sure stupid **** like false rape accusations don't get off scott-free.

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What do you mean it should be the last straw?

Like...there's finally enough evidence that women are all evil and we should just rape any woman on sight?

Or we should all abandon women and be gay?

You can't mean that it's the last straw and it proves that false accusations of rape are bad. I think everyone agreed on that with the first straw.

I just don't know in what way this could be "the last straw" for an entire gender.

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From: Princess Anri | #058
What do you mean it should be the last straw?

Like...there's finally enough evidence that women are all evil and we should just rape any woman on sight?

Or we should all abandon women and be gay?

You can't mean that it's the last straw and it proves that false accusations of rape are bad. I think everyone agreed on that with the first straw.

I just don't know in what way this could be "the last straw" for an entire gender.


read the topic before doing this

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I agree with many of the legislative and economic complaints in "The Misandry Bubble", but disagree on its views on biology and history:

A. The 80/40 Reproductive rule does not necessarily mean that Alpha Men hoarded women, leaving beta males without mates. It could have meant that men were more likely to die due to hunting and warfare than women. It also could have meant that sperm competition and promiscuity was rampant, as Christopher Ryan argues in Sex At Dawn. If a bunch of men gang bang a woman, for instance, only one of those men are going to impregnate her; although the rest will have mated with her, they will have failed in impregnation. Another blow against the women hoarding view is the size of human testes. In gorilla sexuality, where an alpha hoards females, the alpha does not have to worry about competing males inseminating his mates and thus has small testes. Instead, he frets over defeating mates in combat to maintain his harem, leading to large body size. Humans have much larger testes and smaller bodies than gorillas, suggesting that the hoarding view is flawed. I am willing to accept the 'wife hoarding' view due to Occam's Razor, though.

B. Although 90% of divorces may be initiated by the women, how many of these divorces resulted due to misbehavior on the husband's part

C. Wouldn't beta men be more motivated to obtain resources if they were competing with the alphas for access to mates in the author's view of primitive society? Since married men have lower testosterone, it makes sense that unmarried betas would have an edge in motivation and aggression for resources.

D. Monogamous marriage is not a universal component of successful societies. Imperial China was extremely powerful relative to Europe despite allowing concubines. The Ottoman Empire was also successful despite polygyny. Furthermore, let's not overemphasize the 'monogamy' of the West; Casanova's memoirs suggest that the aristocracy enjoyed a promiscuous sex life, as the sex lives of several European monarchs attest to.

E. "Societies that enforced monogamous marriage made sure all beta men had wives...". Some men chose celibacy or were involuntarily celibate during history even in so called 'monogamous' societies due to monasticism and mental illness.

F. "....thus unlocking productive output out of these [beta] men who in pre-modern times would have had no incentive to be productive." Tesla and Newton were both celibate. They nonetheless were more productive than most human beings who ever lived.

G. "In the past, extremely few women ever had more than one or two sexual partners in their lives, as being an unwed mother led to poverty and social ostracization...." Some hunting-gathering women have many sex partners and survive due to the primitive communism of that society.

H. Contraception has always existed, although not admittedly as advanced as it is now.

I. And yet many societies survived and thrived with polygynous marriage: see Ottoman Empire and Imperial China.

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I thank you for at least going through and reading the article, deth. Are you female?

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ExThaNemesis posted...

I thank you for at least going through and reading the article, deth. Are you female?

Male.

You might like The Myth of Male Power for a more academic approach to misandry.

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I will respond to the questions you asked tomorrow when I'm less drunk. Looking through now I don't have any response for A, but for B the article states that 70% of female initiated divorces are initiated with no fault or something like that.

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Also I will check that one out.

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False rape accusations is one of the things I reserve my darkest, fieriest, hatred for.

People who would do such a thing, regardless of gender, does not deserve the air they breathe.

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From: TheConductorSix | #001
Even you man boobs
... I thought man boobs were fat deposits on a man's body that appear similar to boobs.

Not actual men who are boobs.

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Actual men who are boobs would live a pretty horrible life.

I would not want to be a boob.

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From: TheRock1525 | #067
Actual men who are boobs would live a pretty horrible life.
They barely ever get let out to play.












Sounds like my childhood.

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saveus_Maria posted...

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ExTha's greatest fears have come true, the males of this country literally fantasize about being abused by women

There's a difference between having a femdom fetish and actually wanting their lives to be ruined.

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ExTha's greatest fear is femdom?

Is ExTha a repressed sub?

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Anyone who truly cares about the rights of men would be a feminist. That's because the goal of feminism is not, as r/mensrights may think, to castrate all males and create a society of Amazon wonder women. No, the goal of feminism is to dismantle an unjust social structure and form a new one in which no one, be it man or woman, is treated unfairly based on gender.

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Woo last straw!

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DeepsPraw posted...

Anyone who truly cares about the rights of men would be a feminist. That's because the goal of feminism is not, as r/mensrights may think, to castrate all males and create a society of Amazon wonder women. No, the goal of feminism is to dismantle an unjust social structure and form a new one in which no one, be it man or woman, is treated unfairly based on gender.

A noble goal, but how many truly strive for it?

I don't consider myself a feminist though. I consider myself a person who believes in gender equality.

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Dark Young Link posted...

I don't consider myself a feminist though. I consider myself a person who believes in gender equality.

Nothing wrong with that I suppose. Just keep in mind that feminists and yourself share the same beliefs.

There's no reason at all to irrationally hate feminism the way MRAs do.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

There's a difference between the type of feminist you describe and the modern feminism brought about by the likes of Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood.

Heaven forbid people have rights over their own bodies.

I'd assume you'd agree that illicit drugs should be legalized because people have the right to do what they want with their bodies, right? So what's different about birth control?

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B. Although 90% of divorces may be initiated by the women, how many of these divorces resulted due to misbehavior on the husband's part

the mentality of the modern american male, it's your fault, it's always your fault.

GaryOak151 posted...

No false claims of rape are not as bad as rape what is wrong with you.

a false rape claim can lead to the man going to prison, completely having his reputation destroyed and becoming unhireable when he does get out, and makes him a bigger target for rape himself while in prison. and then when it comes to light that it was all lies it makes people more skeptical of other people that cry rape. you're right that false rape claims aren't as bad as rape, they are much much worse.

From: DeepsPraw | #071
No, the goal of feminism is to dismantle an unjust social structure and form a new one in which no one, be it man or woman, is treated unfairly based on gender.
You're so in your own little world that it's honestly hysterical.

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I would say this topic is a goldmine on another board, but I'll just restate that this is a daily b8 topic


so boring

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I know we don't live in the same country and all, but I'm really curious to know where all these crazy feminists taking away all your rights are.. I honestly only come across the rational ones up here in Canadaland.

Either way, there are definitely things that women shouldn't be getting away with (divorce settlements have become a joke in recent times) but rape shield laws were created for a reason... and they're pretty ****ing important to have. Sure if someone admits to fabricating a story to get someone put in prison, they should be charged for it.. that goes for any crime committed by anyone of any gender. But it's not like we can start putting women in jail when they can't prove they were raped, so I don't really know what you're trying to do here.

It'd be awesome if everyone were treated equal in every situation and I believe we're getting there.. but as long as people believe there are differences between the genders, people will be treated differently according to gender. Despite prejudices we basically figured it out with race, but as long as there are issues like women not being able to fight in the military or the idea that women are better at taking care of children, genders will not be treated equally in the eyes of the law.

Still, if you don't think you have it better as a man in our society, you're dumb. Like really dumb.

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Liquid Wind posted...

B. Although 90% of divorces may be initiated by the women, how many of these divorces resulted due to misbehavior on the husband's part

the mentality of the modern american male, it's your fault, it's always your fault.

I never implied it was always the man's fault.

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I never said that you did imply that.

Heaven forbid people have rights over their own bodies.

I'd assume you'd agree that illicit drugs should be legalized because people have the right to do what they want with their bodies, right? So what's different about birth control?

i wouldnt bother responding to ultimaterializerx, he doesnt seem to back up what he says and changes his mind a lot to just get responses. See: how he felt all unions should be illegal yet claims to be a libertarian.

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Anyone who truly cares about the rights of men would be a feminist. That's because the goal of feminism is not, as r/mensrights may think, to castrate all males and create a society of Amazon wonder women. No, the goal of feminism is to dismantle an unjust social structure and form a new one in which no one, be it man or woman, is treated unfairly based on gender.

i think everyone here thats sane supports gender equality. The problem is though that feminism is not fighting for that anymore. Sometime around the 80s/90s "female empowerment/feminism" became "laugh and desire to see all men fail". Its so ironic that modern day "feminists" argue that masculinity and men need to "change and be willing to express their emotions/stop being so aggressive" yet some of the most prominent feminists are the most heartless and aggressive people around.

My sister graduated with a degree women's studies (who is going back for computer science for obvious reasons) and the more i talk to her the more i cant stand how loud and obnoxious she is. She says things like "i never judge anyone and support equality" and "i don't want to get to know anyone in these low level calculus courses, they are all younger than me and not worth my time".

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I don't know for sure, but I doubt that current feminism can all be painted with the same "psychotic bloggers, misandrists, offended by everything" brush. What would you call people who still want gender equality if not feminists?
Is this supposed to be the last straw for me believing that? Because I don't think this woman has anything to do with even the worst aspects of feminism.

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