Board 8 > Homestuck General Discussion: Of White (Gray) Rabbits and Enchantments

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kevwaffles
06/20/12 5:48:00 PM
#301:


From: Lightning Strikes | #300
This is probably obvious, but look at the bow tie. Or should I say, bow ties.


You mean the last panel? I think that's just the green light reflecting off of it. But yes, very Doc Scratch looking there.

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kevwaffles
06/20/12 5:58:00 PM
#302:


This is the chain you shackle to your other leg when you're about to go to sleep. You are the only one who is able to unlock it.

So much for any remaining inkling I had that UU and uu being in the same body was too obvious.

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SovietOmega
06/20/12 6:04:00 PM
#303:


argh, curse zebra stripes for having yellow in it, but this is what the bed reminded me of

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RyokIes
06/20/12 6:07:00 PM
#304:


man hussie's really churning out these updates today!

maybe a s: uu wake up soon? hopefully?

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Nogoodnamesnow
06/20/12 6:11:00 PM
#305:


RyokIes posted...
man hussie's really churning out these updates today!

maybe a s: uu wake up soon? hopefully?


He tends to churn out character introduction pages fast. Using sprites probably helps the speed. I think I remember him saying it takes longer to make the sprites instead of doing a normal drawing, but he can reuse sprites which helps with that issue.

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Altimadark
06/20/12 6:29:00 PM
#306:


At this point, it would be a bigger twist for UU and uu to not share a body.

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Lord Bob Bree
06/20/12 7:03:00 PM
#307:


Probably incorrect prediction: UU's juju is the bunny.

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Kirbydamasta
06/20/12 7:38:00 PM
#308:


Saw this theory earlier: uu is an earlier LE, who made the peg leg after he cut off his own leg to escape from the chain. The peg leg is where UU's chain is, right?

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/20/12 7:42:00 PM
#309:


Earlier they mentioned that they both jujus needed to be brought together to have any power...

Maybe the pool balls that make up Lord English's eyes?

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Pirateking2000
06/20/12 7:43:00 PM
#310:


Kirbydamasta posted...
Saw this theory earlier: uu is an earlier LE, who made the peg leg after he cut off his own leg to escape from the chain. The peg leg is where UU's chain is, right?


pegleg is on the right side on LE which is where uu's shackle probably is thought of this idea where he blew his own foot / ankle off to escape

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Pirateking2000
06/20/12 7:49:00 PM
#311:


hey quick question why is the shackle on UU's right ankle now when it was on her left ankle?

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GeneralKenobi85
06/20/12 7:51:00 PM
#312:


From: Pirateking2000 | #311
hey quick question why is the shackle on UU's right ankle now when it was on her left ankle?

The sprite is flipped. Remember back in the very first intermission, Slick did the same thing to get the barcode on the correct arm.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/20/12 7:53:00 PM
#313:


From: Pirateking2000 | #311
hey quick question why is the shackle on UU's right ankle now when it was on her left ankle?

Sprite flipping.

Remember in the intermission where the bar code on Slick's arm got torn off and he just sort of...turned around and it was on his intact arm? Yeah.

edit: fff

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Pirateking2000
06/20/12 7:56:00 PM
#314:


ohhh yeeahh....

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kevwaffles
06/20/12 8:08:00 PM
#315:


Neither is the fact that you both share a body.

I mean come on.


Oh, that was a good laugh.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/20/12 8:10:00 PM
#316:


Haha, wow.

Okay.

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RyokIes
06/20/12 8:10:00 PM
#317:


ahahahahaha

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GeneralKenobi85
06/20/12 8:19:00 PM
#319:


Haha

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Drakeryn
06/20/12 8:20:00 PM
#320:


aww yeah

hussie best storyteller


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SovietOmega
06/20/12 8:22:00 PM
#321:


clearly this is...setting up a...twist...of epic...and then....and...

anyway, yeah, good to have that confirmed.

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KamikazePotato
06/20/12 10:21:00 PM
#322:


aw yeah

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Some_Character
06/20/12 11:51:00 PM
#323:


Huh. That's pretty cool.

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ZX_Lucian
06/21/12 12:40:00 AM
#324:


Perfect music for when she was staring at the sun:



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Paratroopa1
06/21/12 2:12:00 AM
#325:


When Calliope was talking about going out and looking at the sun, I figured it was going to be the green sun.

I wasn't expecting a... red sun.

Is it still the green sun? Would that mean this is far, far into the future?
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tcaz2
06/21/12 2:24:00 AM
#326:


From: Paratroopa1 | #325
Is it still the green sun?


Huh, interesting, random wild thought I had.

What if this is the same sun, but it's red when Calliope is out and green when uu is out?

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/21/12 3:26:00 AM
#327:


Learn to astronomy guys

This is just a plain old red supergiant, of which millions exist even in our own galaxy.

It could be Alternia's sun in the future, but certainly not the Green Sun or Earth's sun(which is too small to become a supergiant).
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tcaz2
06/21/12 3:41:00 AM
#328:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #327
This is just a plain old red supergiant, of which millions exist even in our own galaxy.


...This is Homestuck, you realize?

Also there's a whole red/green theme going on with uu and UU. It's clearly related in some way.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/21/12 3:51:00 AM
#329:


So, you're saying UU and uu are in the Furthest Ring somehow? And yet they're not in the game? And despite time not existing in the furthest ring, this sun has gone red giant and is at the end of its lifespan?

Dude, seriously.

This is just a normal star, and will function as the Cherubs' incentive to enter the game because it's about to blow up.
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tcaz2
06/21/12 3:57:00 AM
#330:


From: Takfloyd_mkII__ | #329
So, you're saying UU and uu are in the Furthest Ring somehow? And yet they're not in the game? And despite time not existing in the furthest ring, this sun has gone red giant and is at the end of its lifespan?


We don't actually know it's a red giant at the end of its lifespan. It could, you know, just be a red colored star. Homestuck isn't exactly known for being scientifically accurate.

This is just a normal star, and will function as the Cherubs' incentive to enter the game because it's about to blow up.


It could, you know, be both. Or neither. But it clearly is related in some way, whether as a counterpoint to it or as the same thing later on, ESPECIALLY with the red/green opposites point.

Let me ask you, when was the last time Hussie introduced something like this that has such an obvious correlation to something that already exists that WASN'T relevant?

"Dude, seriously."

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/21/12 4:01:00 AM
#331:


Ugh, some of you people are just so tiresome in your lack of understanding. How can we have a meaningful discussion going when some of us have to spoonfeed the rest constantly?

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catastrophy15
06/21/12 4:31:00 AM
#332:


My new (and probably incorrect) theory on the meaning of the sun: The Red Sun represents Calliope's life span since the sun is about to die and she is most likely never waking up again and the Green Sun represents uu's/LE's lifespan since it was just created and uu is most likely going to take over their shared body so it is a new life for him and the Green Sun broke LE's seal bringing him back from wherever he was.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/21/12 5:08:00 AM
#333:


But the Green Sun always existed, since the beginning of time.

I understand what you mean though. But regardless, the colours are wrong.
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SovietOmega
06/21/12 5:34:00 AM
#334:


Takfloyd_mkII__ posted...
But the Green Sun always existed, since the beginning of time.

I understand what you mean though. But regardless, the colours are wrong.


I could think of a dozen ways the colors being wrong would not matter. Enchantments, something about a kind and queen switching, a potentially artistic statement, hussie being hussie, etc etc etc

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/21/12 5:40:00 AM
#335:


Yeah, I agree that there is some symbolic statement being made here. This sun itself won't be related to the Green Sun or anything like that though.
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SovietOmega
06/21/12 6:13:00 AM
#336:


Most likely not. Unless it is the green sun at the end of its lifeapan or something :p

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/21/12 8:11:00 AM
#338:


It's obvious that he was "voiding" out everything related to Lord English and himself in the book, using Equius' blood. Probably because Doc Scratch knew UU/uu would end up with the book.

Similarly, we can probably assume that the reason limebloods were hunted to extinction was because Scratch was overseeing Alternia, and UU has lime colored blood...
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GeneralKenobi85
06/21/12 10:11:00 AM
#343:


From: SantaRPG | #339
technically that book didn't exist yet, so it probably wasn't that.

Gamzee did have Aradia's time thingies though. Maybe he messed around with time or something? Don't know how he could do that, but just a thought.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
06/21/12 10:38:00 AM
#344:


You guys are forgetting that if uu becomes Lord English, he will have more than enough time to discover the book, then go back in time and take action.
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Gatarix
06/21/12 10:43:00 AM
#345:


Yeah, but that still leaves open the question of what Gamzee did for Doc Scratch prior to Cascade. (Unless you mean that LE specifically brings the book back in time for Gamzee to redact.)


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HeroDelTiempo17
06/21/12 12:07:00 PM
#346:


It might not amount to anything at all. We've known Scratch was in contact with Aradia since the end of Hivebent and we never figured out specifically what he was doing there, either. Until it comes up in story I personally am just going to dismiss it as Scratch's generic machination bulls***.

He was also talking to Kanaya, that didn't turn out to be relevant either.

Of course, Gamzee is the only male character he's spoken to (besides Karkat, briefly), so maybe there's something to that? But I wouldn't bet on it.

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KanzarisKelshen
06/21/12 12:18:00 PM
#348:


Speaking of red herrings and things written off - has anyone thought about AR's Delirious Biznasty programs and their significance yet? Think it might be a joke, or is there something more to it? They've been prominently called out by several characters, after all.

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HeroDelTiempo17
06/21/12 12:27:00 PM
#349:


Yeah, I guess so.

To be honest though, my first thought when seeing the book was that Gazmee/the kids were manipulating them into "creating" Lord English not as a result of any of Scratch's plans, but because it's something they have to do anyways due to causality and whatnot.

Kind of like how Vriska gave Bec's powers to Jack because she wanted to be the one to both create and kill their greatest enemy (though it turned out it wasn't just Vriska who was responsible for that). The kids want to stop Lord English, but first, they have to make sure he exists. But it could go either way. I'm not sure if Scratch would trust the most volatile troll to do his work, but who knows, maybe it does tie in with his crazy religion!

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