Board 8 > Holy crap you guys, the beta males have landed. [feminist] [girl gamer]

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Jeff Zero
06/12/12 7:34:00 PM
#51:


Man with Boobs - Video #10

Hm.

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:34:00 PM
#52:


From: Jeff Zero | #045
Not everyone in this topic responded to the original post in quite such an ass-sexist manner, you know.


hey Jeff did you consider the possibility maybe I am only trolling the ones who did

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Jeff Zero
06/12/12 7:35:00 PM
#53:


From: saveus_Maria | #052
From: Jeff Zero | #045
Not everyone in this topic responded to the original post in quite such an ass-sexist manner, you know.


hey Jeff did you consider the possibility maybe I am only trolling the ones who did

No, I am too naive and trusting, sorry >_>

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AlphaRayAllen
06/12/12 7:35:00 PM
#54:


She wants $80,000? No way in hell.

... Wait, what?

.... She already has $80,000?

...She only wanted $6,000?

Kill me.

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KimPine
06/12/12 7:35:00 PM
#55:


I fail to see a problem here other than people donating way too much money. She's just analyzing certain tropes found in games, not launching some full scale attack on your precious hobby. I got no sense of malice from the video. She's just doing this as an intellectual pursuit and even said that she'd be looking at both sides of the coin.
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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:35:00 PM
#56:


From: Jeff Zero | #051
Man with Boobs - Video #10

Hm.


this actually has nothing to do with looks, I'm guessing it's about how most vg writers are awful at writing female characters so the times when they are more than just eye candy they basically just make a male 'character' but design her to look like a female. the biggest issue with this portrayal is that it implies that females can only be strong in the same way that males can be strong, or something along those lines.

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Ayuyu
06/12/12 7:36:00 PM
#57:


From: AlphaRayAllen | #054
She wants $80,000? No way in hell.

... Wait, what?

.... She already has $80,000?

...She only wanted $6,000?

Kill me.


Always happens with kickstarter, once the goal is reached it goes up like crazy because people get stuff for cheap, well that's how it works for games anyway.

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Jeff Zero
06/12/12 7:36:00 PM
#58:


From: saveus_Maria | #056
From: Jeff Zero | #051
Man with Boobs - Video #10

Hm.


this actually has nothing to do with looks, I'm guessing it's about how most vg writers are awful at writing female characters so the times when they are more than just eye candy they basically just make a male 'character' but design her to look like a female. the biggest issue with this portrayal is that it implies that females can only be strong in the same way that males can be strong, or something along those lines.

Actually, yeah, that sounds like a pretty good guess. I completely agree with you... and I'm slightly interested in watching that video.

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3DSRage
06/12/12 7:37:00 PM
#59:


Peach may be a damsel in distress, but Bowser, the male character is portrayed as a disgusting creep.

Gotta start up a Menist kickstarter and get myself 80 g's
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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:37:00 PM
#60:


From: KimPine | #055
I fail to see a problem here other than people donating way too much money. She's just analyzing certain tropes found in games, not launching some full scale attack on your precious hobby. I got no sense of malice from the video. She's just doing this as an intellectual pursuit and even said that she'd be looking at both sides of the coin.


this is pretty much spot on. and really, it's not her fault that people got invested in the cause and donated more money to her than she originally asked for.

for all we know, maybe she'll do something really good with the money.

I guess it wouldn't be board 8 if a bunch of people didn't jump to wild and angry conclusions

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:38:00 PM
#61:


From: saveus_Maria | #049
Voodoo Priestess/Tribal Sorceress - Video #6
Women as Reward - Video #7
Mrs. Male Character - Video #8
Unattractive Equals Evil - Video #9
Man with Boobs - Video #10
Positive Female Characters! - Video #11

I see your inferior male brain literally cannot process more than 5 lines of text at a time, let me help you


Oh I was just going off of five because that's what she said in the original video.

She should've stuck with five after seeing how bad the next six are. 8 and 10 are literally the same thing.

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foolm0ron
06/12/12 7:38:00 PM
#62:


I wonder why she doesn't do a video about how men in video games also fall into a handful of stereotypes
oh wait that would totally destroy her point, $80K is the much better choice

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:38:00 PM
#63:


Also I'm interested to know how you feel a strong woman is supposed to be portrayed, Lisel and co.

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iiicon
06/12/12 7:38:00 PM
#64:


Oh, she runs Feminist Frequency? Neat. Her videos are really comprehensive.


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AlphaRayAllen
06/12/12 7:39:00 PM
#65:


From: ExThaNemesis | #061
She should've stuck with five after seeing how bad the next six are. 8 and 10 are literally the same thing.

Unless 8 is taken literally and she's only talking about gender swaps of established male characters.

Like Mrs. Pac-Man or some s***.

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:39:00 PM
#66:


From: foolm0ron | #062
I wonder why she doesn't do a video about how men in video games also fall into a handful of stereotypes
oh wait that would totally destroy her point, $80K is the much better choice


Oh no because it's totally okay for men to be stereotyped, bro.

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:39:00 PM
#67:


ExTha literally admitting defeat so easily.

oh well, I was already bored of this discussion anyway.

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:41:00 PM
#68:


From: saveus_Maria | #067
ExTha literally admitting defeat so easily.


yes your mighty intellect has slain me with ease, please move off to more worthwhile ventures, like curing cancer and aids.

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Ayuyu
06/12/12 7:42:00 PM
#69:


Cancer and AIDS are almost already cured at this point, only a matter of time!

Better cure furries or bronies or something.

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foolm0ron
06/12/12 7:42:00 PM
#70:


lisel is literally fist pumping IRL due to his victory in this topic

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Meow1000
06/12/12 7:43:00 PM
#71:


From: Ayuyu | #069
Cancer and AIDS are almost already cured at this point, only a matter of time!

Better cure furries or bronies or something.



If only this were possible to do without mass firebombing

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:43:00 PM
#72:


From: foolm0ron | #070
lisel is literally fist pumping IRL due to his victory in this topic


and why wouldn't he it was a resounding intellectual victory backed by his sterling ability to present sound arguments

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KimPine
06/12/12 7:44:00 PM
#73:


From: 3DSRage | #059
Peach may be a damsel in distress, but Bowser, the male character is portrayed as a disgusting creep.

Gotta start up a Menist kickstarter and get myself 80 g's

Even though you're joking this isn't a terrible idea. Video games have been stuck in the previous century in their portrayal of gender and race and a series of videos/essays detailing the subject would be very interesting.
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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:44:00 PM
#74:


From: foolm0ron | #070
lisel is literally fist pumping IRL due to his victory in this topic


not really, but once people fall back on the 'final trump card' of referring to me as Lisel during an arugment because it's the last petty thing they have left to make even a small attempt to annoy me (hint; it doesn't) the discussion is pretty much over. it's the person with inferior intellect's way of showing they have absolutely no fresh ideas to bring to the discussion and they refuse to go out without flailing and throwing one last temper tantrum.

I would have loved to keep discussing it, but it's clear that his brain couldn't keep up and he had to lash out like a child

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Meow1000
06/12/12 7:45:00 PM
#75:


Oh man fight breaking out

Time to prep popcorn

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:45:00 PM
#76:


or that he forgot referring to you by the name we spent three years referring to you as is no longer allowed.

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:46:00 PM
#77:


From: Meow1000 | #075
Oh man fight breaking out

Time to prep popcorn


uh we're talking about the guy who is literally fleeing the US because he's afraid of the fact that no woman would ever date someone as immature and unappealing as he is. I can't imagine any real kind of fight breaking out, he'll probably just flee the topic as well.

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AlphaRayAllen
06/12/12 7:46:00 PM
#78:


Male stereotypes and tropes and all that is plenty interesting, but feminists just pretend that they're the only group that matters because they're oppressed or something. Or they feel themselves lesser and more deserving of a leg up, which is damn ironic.

I could write a goddamn book on the implications of fans chastising Raiden for being a whiner in MGS2 when MGS1 Snake was the biggest crybaby in the entire series. Nobody would pay money to see that happen. But this chick can ask for $6,000 to do what TV Tropes does for free on their analysis page and get over ten times that amount.

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:47:00 PM
#79:


yes the guy who is insecure about what people call him on an internet message board is the one with the fortitude in this argument, folks.

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Wanglicious
06/12/12 7:47:00 PM
#80:


cancer is, quite literally, being treated with AIDS.

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GuessMyUserName
06/12/12 7:48:00 PM
#81:


meanwhile sandquest is at $242

;_;

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:48:00 PM
#82:


From: AlphaRayAllen | #078
Male stereotypes and tropes and all that is plenty interesting, but feminists just pretend that they're the only group that matters because they're oppressed or something. Or they feel themselves lesser and more deserving of a leg up, which is damn ironic.


serious question, at what point did she say that exploring male stereotypes mattered less? she's doing informative videos on a subject she's interested in. just because my chief interests are in bio and chem doesn't mean that I think compsci doesn't matter, so I feel like that's a really weird conclusion to draw unless you're predisposed to believing that someone who is a 'feminist' has it out to get all men.

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Meow1000
06/12/12 7:49:00 PM
#83:


From: GuessMyUserName | #081
meanwhile sandquest is at $242

;_;



No Sandquest for GMUN?

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Wanglicious
06/12/12 7:50:00 PM
#84:


tellin' you gmun, just jump on the dragon's commander bandwagon right now. it has undead chicks and larian is a solid PC dev.

it's also dragons with jetpacks. like, no sane person thinks that's a bad idea. hell, no sane person thinks that's anything but a brilliant idea.

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:51:00 PM
#85:


From: ExThaNemesis | #079
yes the guy who is insecure about what people call him on an internet message board is the one with the fortitude in this argument, folks.


I'm not insecure about it. the only one who suffers by falling back on that sad and ineffectual strategy is you, by revealing yourself to be the big baby that you are.

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Meow1000
06/12/12 7:52:00 PM
#86:


From: Wanglicious | #084
tellin' you gmun, just jump on the dragon's commander bandwagon right now. it has undead chicks and larian is a solid PC dev.

it's also dragons with jetpacks. like, no sane person thinks that's a bad idea. hell, no sane person thinks that's anything but a brilliant idea.



Do they shoot laser beams when they roar

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:52:00 PM
#87:


once again, I forgot. If you really think that your internet name/gender change carries enough weight in my memory for me to insult you by calling you Lisel then you overrate how much on my radar you are.

If you are truly bothered by it, I will edit the post.

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3DSRage
06/12/12 7:52:00 PM
#88:


Ps. the girl reminds me of Rebecca Black.

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hockeydude15
06/12/12 7:52:00 PM
#89:


From: AlphaRayAllen | #054
She wants $80,000? No way in hell.

... Wait, what?

.... She already has $80,000?

...She only wanted $6,000?

Kill me.



........this so much

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Wanglicious
06/12/12 7:53:00 PM
#90:


i have no idea if they shoot lasers when they roar.
but half the screenshots look like they came out of ZOE2 so maybe?

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:53:00 PM
#91:


believe me, nothing that you could do would bother me

that's like asking me to care what a child thinks

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foolm0ron
06/12/12 7:53:00 PM
#92:


From: saveus_Maria | #074
From: foolm0ron | #070
lisel is literally fist pumping IRL due to his victory in this topic


not really, but once people fall back on the 'final trump card' of referring to me as Lisel during an arugment because it's the last petty thing they have left to make even a small attempt to annoy me (hint; it doesn't) the discussion is pretty much over. it's the person with inferior intellect's way of showing they have absolutely no fresh ideas to bring to the discussion and they refuse to go out without flailing and throwing one last temper tantrum.

I would have loved to keep discussing it, but it's clear that his brain couldn't keep up and he had to lash out like a child

You just wrote a paragraph about something that supposedly doesn't bother you

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:54:00 PM
#93:


sorry foolmo, once you graduate middle school you'll learn that writing a paragraph is not a task that requires any effort.

I'll try to keep the discussion on your level moving forward so you can keep up.

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/12 7:54:00 PM
#94:


You are the only one that has launched purposeful insults in this entire 'argument'. I'd say you very much care what a child thinks, as you seem very concerned with your own opinion.

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Meow1000
06/12/12 7:54:00 PM
#95:


From: Wanglicious | #090
i have no idea if they shoot lasers when they roar.
but half the screenshots look like they came out of ZOE2 so maybe?



This is EXTREMELY important

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foolm0ron
06/12/12 7:55:00 PM
#96:


From: saveus_Maria | #077
uh we're talking about the guy who is literally fleeing the US because he's afraid of the fact that no woman would ever date someone as immature and unappealing as he is

Wow... that makes a lot of sense. He prob won't have any luck over there either though.

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GuessMyUserName
06/12/12 7:55:00 PM
#97:


From: Wanglicious | Posted: 6/12/2012 10:50:41 PM | #084
tellin' you gmun, just jump on the dragon's commander bandwagon right now. it has undead chicks and larian is a solid PC dev.

it's also dragons with jetpacks. like, no sane person thinks that's a bad idea. hell, no sane person thinks that's anything but a brilliant idea.

but but

sandquest has playable ero figures

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Wanglicious
06/12/12 7:55:00 PM
#98:


is... is it helpful that you can marry a skeleton princess who stuffs or an elf princess?
and can play politics too while riding your jetpack wielding dragon?

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neonreap
06/12/12 7:55:00 PM
#99:


Wanglicious posted...
it seriously is, and stuff like this makes me bang my head into my keyboard because it's seriously dumb in how youtube videos are kickstarter material. if she made a goddamn game with ALL the women tropes i'd be kinda interested. not this crap.

in some way i have some respect for yokes for taking the whore jokes in stride and being chill about it instead of taking b8's wallets.
(it would happen. i mean half of the money would be from lurker BUT IT WOULD HAPPEN.)


it'd be kinda neat if she used this to fund some small little game that deconstructs some misogynist stuff or whatever.

video games have girls with big boobs, oh no that means a lot of gamers will have different expectations about the porn they steal, whoop dee doo

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saveus_Maria
06/12/12 7:56:00 PM
#100:


From: foolm0ron | #096
Wow... that makes a lot of sense. He prob won't have any luck over there either though.


yeah, it's not going to end well when he wastes a lot of time and effort getting somewhere and is still unsuccessful with relationship.s but it's much easier for him to accept the idea that all of the feminists in america are part of a giant conspiracy that's preventing him from being happy than it is to face the truth

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