Board 8 > I have never played a Pokemon game - thinking of changing that...

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Forceful_Dragon
07/05/12 8:20:00 AM
#51:


From: KingButz | #050
Fire Red/LG is a good start. They took the original games and polished the mechanics, took out the glitches, and made the graphics very pretty.

Then I would move on to The Gen 2 remakes or Gen 3.



It's got to be Gen 3 before the Gen 2 remakes.

Gen 2 remake is technically Gen 4, and while there are not a lot of huge changes, you really can't go backwards a generation (in terms of game design) for any reason and you shouldn't skip one either.

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KingButz
07/05/12 8:29:00 AM
#52:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #051
and you shouldn't skip one either.


In the case of gen 3, I think it's ok to skip a generation.

If you are going to do Gen 3, it should be before gen 4. But it's hardly essential

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wg64Z
07/05/12 8:44:00 AM
#53:


Fire Red IS gen 3.

But yeah, Emerald sucked.
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bospsychopaat
07/05/12 9:04:00 AM
#54:


Don't listen to the gen 3 haters, it's actually (one of) the best gen(s).

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Jeff Zero
07/05/12 9:04:00 AM
#55:


From: wg64Z | #053
Fire Red IS gen 3.

But yeah, Emerald sucked.


._. Emerald was great.

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Forceful_Dragon
07/05/12 9:07:00 AM
#56:


Emerald is worth it.

And definitely you should do Emerald before playing any of the games with Gen 4 mechanics, is all I'm saying.

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StifledSilence
07/05/12 9:33:00 AM
#57:


Personally, I wasn't impressed with Fire Red/Leaf Green. They may have removed the glitches and what not, but I felt like they were a less fun, less charming, and overall inferior experience to the originals on the Game Boy. If you really want to start from the beginning, I recommend playing Red/Blue/Yellow.

If you want remakes done right, however, Heart Gold and Soul Silver are fantastic remakes of G/S/C.

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TheCodeisBosco
07/05/12 9:48:00 AM
#58:


I have to agree with Stifled. FRLG is as lazy as remakes get - it adds barely anything to the experience, and takes away some really cool stuff. The glitches, for instance.

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Forceful_Dragon
07/05/12 9:55:00 AM
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It also fixes terrible combat.

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StifledSilence
07/05/12 10:00:00 AM
#60:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
It also fixes terrible combat.


FR/LG had terrible combat. It was slower than the originals. The battle load times were slower and the actual battles were slower paced.

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Takfloyd_mkII__
07/05/12 10:12:00 AM
#61:


Emerald is better than D/P and definitely worth playing. Better world and better Pokémon. Haven't played Platinum though, and D/P has better story and music.
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Jeff Zero
07/05/12 10:29:00 AM
#62:


Black/White > Emerald >= Platinum (so far) > HG/SS > Diamond/Pearl > Crystal > FR/LG > Gold/Silver > Red/Blue > Ruby/Sapphire (from what I've seen and read) > Yellow.

Yellow so low because of how ridiculously unbalanced and easy-even-for-Pokemon it is, but I might kinda-sorta enjoy playing it more than Red/Blue and Ruby/Sapphire despite that just for how goofy it is. With HG/SS completely outclassing Gold/Silver, I might even enjoy messing around with it above them. So Yellow's ranking is really... controversial. >_>

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MarvelousGerbil
07/05/12 10:50:00 AM
#63:


From: Bospsychopaat | #054
Don't listen to the gen 3 haters, it's actually (one of) the best gen(s).


Well it's in my top 5 for sure!

But yeah, I'd say go FR/LG (either or), Emerald, HG/SS (either one), Platinum, B/W (either one). I'm not sure how much you care about, well... anything but I'll give a quick summary of a few things.

The original Gameboy games were Red/Blue/Yellow and had a ton of problems/glitches. They're still fun though and if you want them for history, I won't stop you, but keep in mind that Psychic stomps everything, and you can't transfer any of your Pokemon from these games to the newest games. If you insist on playing a pure Gen 1 game, I'd say go with Yellow since it hasn't been remade and it has a few nifty additions.

The Gameboy Color games were Gold/Silver/Crystal. They fixed a lot of the problems of the GB games, as Psychic didn't dominate anymore and there wasn't a plethora of glitches. Again, they're really dated and I'd recommend not playing them as your Pokemon can't be transferred, but the games can still be fun if you're not picky. I'd recommend Crystal if you insist on playing, but most of what made Crystal special was implemented into HG/SS anyway.

The Gameboy Advance games included Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald/Fire Red/Leaf Green. These are the first games in which you can (hypothetically) transfer all of your captured Pokemon to newer generation games. This will require you to own a DS/Lite, however, so keep that in mind. Of these, I'd recommend Emerald simply because the *minor spoilers* Team Magma and Team Aqua are exclusive to the other two games, but are both a part of Emerald. I'd recommend playing both if you weren't new to the series, but since you have so much to catch up on anyway, just go Emerald. Fire Red/Leaf Green are remakes of the GB games (Leaf Green=Blue for reasons beyond what you need to be told), but are updated with the mechanics of the new games. The glitches are mostly removed, balance is in place and if you didn't know RBY existed you'd never think the series had any issues. These days, RSE are probably the most skippable games. Gameplay is fun enough but the region kind of sucks and if I remember things correctly the only Pokemon unobtainable between all of the DS games are the Legendary Golems and they're not very good.

The Gen 4 DS games included Diamond/Pearl/Platinum/Heart Gold/Soul Silver. Platinum added a few new things, so you may as well go with that for Gen 4 games. The plot is mostly the same and there's only one Team this time so no real need to even consider D/P, just go Platinum. HG/SS integrate some mechanics from Crystal and Yellow as well and are my personal favorites despite liking them all.

The Gen 5 DS games are Black/White and upcoming Black2/White2. You can transfer anything from Gen 4 games to Gen 5 (and indirectly you can transfer stuff from Gen 3 to Gen 4, then to Gen 5). B/W was seen as sort of a revival of the series and you can see a TON of similarities from Gen 1 to Gen 5 in the Pokedex. A lot of the inspirations for the new designs are similar to that of the old ones, but they're different enough to keep most people happy.


tl:dr
If you're not wanting to get into things for the long haul, you can probably just jump in at B/W and enjoy the series enough. It's a sort of revival kind of like the new Doctor Who series, where the stories are sort of continuous, but you'll miss a few references and not know it and you can follow everything that's happening. The stories for the games, sans B/W are pretty linear, so don't think you're missing anything too deep. Honestly, I'd like to see someone who's not a little kid jump into the series at B/W and play sort of backwards to see how their opinions differ from people who grew up on the series.


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WalrusJump
07/05/12 12:20:00 PM
#64:


yeah, don't play Yellow. you don't even get to pick your starter in that game, which is part of the "classic" pokemon experience.

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KingButz
07/05/12 12:35:00 PM
#65:


the difficulty in Yellow is a joke.

Also, R/S/E are fun if you enjoy surfing for eternity.

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Senjougaharaism
07/05/12 12:44:00 PM
#66:


just play the classics

R/B or bust

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speedpunk
07/05/12 12:44:00 PM
#67:


KingButz posted...
Also, R/S/E are fun if you enjoy surfing for eternity.

This is why R/S/E is the worst. The map is just a nightmare.

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The Popo
07/05/12 1:49:00 PM
#68:


Cool - just ordered Fire Red. Should get here in a few days. Marvelous, thanks for the detailed write-up!

Hopefully I end up enjoying it and move forward with the series. To be continued...

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muddersmilk
07/05/12 2:15:00 PM
#69:


Can't wait for the playthrough topic

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Forceful_Dragon
07/05/12 2:24:00 PM
#70:


From: muddersmilk | #069
Can't wait for the playthrough topic



Also:

Your own very Pokémon legend is about to unfold. A world of dreams and adventures with Pokémon awaits!

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Ryo8889
07/05/12 3:14:00 PM
#71:


Your own very Pokemon Legend? Own very?
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Forceful_Dragon
07/05/12 3:29:00 PM
#72:


Proof reading is for sheep. Don't be a sheep, be a shark, like me.

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SupremeZero
07/05/12 3:30:00 PM
#73:


Sharkbait, HOO HA HA

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Raka_Putra
07/05/12 3:58:00 PM
#74:


Just don't forget to do a playthrough~

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MarvelousGerbil
07/05/12 4:24:00 PM
#75:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #072
Proof reading is for mareep. Don't be a mareep, be a sharpedo, like me.


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Forceful_Dragon
07/06/12 7:53:00 AM
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lol nice

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