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RickyTheBAWSE
04/04/17 1:12:21 PM
#153:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
I just wish once we could have an actual evolving discussion on this.

There was a couple good post about the trade off of this and was it actually worth it in the long run but everyone rather just troll.


I have you tagged as "defend BLM attackers" so I can only assume you're disingenuous in wanting an "actual discussion".


that's a stupid thing to tag somebody as, and an even more stupid reason to belittle their character when you don't even know a person.

keep that status quo going, victim.
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Questionmarktarius
04/04/17 1:13:38 PM
#154:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not ignoring the context. The context is hilariously pathetic


One group planned a meeting with the intention of having a safe space for members of a certain group to exchange ideas is comparable to another group separating minorities out into shittier versions of their facilities because they see them as less human...in your eyes.

What's funny is you pretty much prove their point, since guys like you will come in and do nothing but get defensive, argue endlessly and then completely derail any productive conversation.

But, Jim Crow laws were "safe spaces" for whites.

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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/04/17 1:13:41 PM
#155:


RickyTheBAWSE posted...
that's a stupid thing to tag somebody as


Dude was literally defending assault because the victim was a Trump supporter. (IIRC)
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 1:15:33 PM
#156:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
One group planned a meeting with the intention of having a safe space for members of a certain group to exchange ideas is comparable to another group separating minorities out into shittier versions of their facilities because they see them as less human...in your eyes.

rchhomie thinks a place isn't safe if white people are there, lol.
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gamepimp12
04/04/17 1:15:50 PM
#157:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
I just wish once we could have an actual evolving discussion on this.

There was a couple good post about the trade off of this and was it actually worth it in the long run but everyone rather just troll.


I have you tagged as "defend BLM attackers" so I can only assume you're disingenuous in wanting an "actual discussion".


I doubt I ever defended, unless we're possibly talking about the opinion of if something was perceived as a threat.

Now I might of said I understand why they did it, and might of agreed with why they did it, but I doubt I ever defended them.
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A Novel Idea
04/04/17 1:15:51 PM
#158:


Questionmarktarius posted...
RchHomieQuanChi posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
I'm not ignoring the context. The context is hilariously pathetic


One group planned a meeting with the intention of having a safe space for members of a certain group to exchange ideas is comparable to another group separating minorities out into shittier versions of their facilities because they see them as less human...in your eyes.

What's funny is you pretty much prove their point, since guys like you will come in and do nothing but get defensive, argue endlessly and then completely derail any productive conversation.

But, Jim Crow laws were "safe spaces" for whites.


How is Institutional and systemic racism in any way comparable to an activist group excluding white ppl?
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/17 1:17:10 PM
#159:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...


One group planned a meeting with the intention of having a safe space for members of a certain group to exchange ideas is comparable to another group separating minorities out into shittier versions of their facilities because they see them as less human...in your eyes.

This has been explained to your ass like 15 times and you're still unable to comprehend it


A juxtaposition is not equating or necessarily a comparison.


Your repeated pathetic defense of segregation because "It's not literally as bad as another famous example of segregation." is embarrassing.

It's like defending smearing feces all over your face and going "Well it's not as bad as in 1924 where a man bathed in feces."

Well maybe not but its still fucking stupid and deserves ridiclue.

Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Replace safe space with echo chamber, then continue wondering why they can't get people on their side.

It's frustrating because the alt-right's actual points are so bad it should be easy for progressives to floor them

But "progressives" just rip their own arms off and wallow in their own blood.
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Questionmarktarius
04/04/17 1:17:10 PM
#160:


A Novel Idea posted...
How is Institutional and systemic racism in any way comparable to an activist group excluding white ppl?

Because, the "activist group" at the time was Atlanta.
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gamepimp12
04/04/17 1:17:15 PM
#161:


Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
that's a stupid thing to tag somebody as


Dude was literally defending assault because the victim was a Trump supporter. (IIRC)

See yeah I def didn't defend it.

Probably said the person deserved it.

Didn't defend it.

Defending it would be saying the person didn't deserve jail time for the assault
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gatorsPENSbucs
04/04/17 1:17:30 PM
#162:


We should just go back to segregation, it'll definitely make black people happy.
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 1:17:46 PM
#163:


A Novel Idea posted...
How is Institutional and systemic racism in any way comparable to an activist group excluding white ppl?

So segregation is ok as long as it's not done on a large scale?
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Questionmarktarius
04/04/17 1:18:34 PM
#164:


Mal_Fet posted...
A Novel Idea posted...
How is Institutional and systemic racism in any way comparable to an activist group excluding white ppl?

So segregation is ok as long as it's not done on a large scale?


Uh oh. Someone needs to let Sam's Club and Costco know that.
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/17 1:19:35 PM
#165:


gamepimp12 posted...


Probably said the person deserved it.


Jesus Christ...
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DifferentialEquation
04/04/17 1:21:07 PM
#166:


gamepimp12 posted...
Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X posted...
I hate this whole delusional idea that some of these black folks have thinking like they're still going through the struggle. Society has changed the only ones that hasn't changed is them. The government has done their best to help them. With programs that helps them get out the street life and educational programs that helps them get into college. Yet they still complain that they're being oppressed.



"YEAHHHHH BLACK PEOPLE ARE JUST LAZY THATS WHY THEY LAG BEHIND IN EDUCATIONAL AND WEALTH STATISTICS" *spits chewing tobacco in empty gatorade bottle*


Stop strawmanning. It's fairly common knowledge that success in education is highly correlated with socioeconomic status. No one except for a few idiots think that black people are lazy and that it's what's causing the statistical outcomes.
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A Novel Idea
04/04/17 1:21:09 PM
#167:


Questionmarktarius posted...
A Novel Idea posted...
How is Institutional and systemic racism in any way comparable to an activist group excluding white ppl?

Because, the "activist group" at the time was Atlanta.

wait, I might've misread the chain you were replying to in the first place because the activist group I was referring to was BLM philly

To be clear, my post is asking how Jim Crow laws are comparable to this BLM chapter's meeting rule
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/04/17 1:22:21 PM
#168:


A Novel Idea posted...
How is Institutional


Jim Crow wasn't just* govt laws oppressing minorities, it was also a lack of special protections.
Hence why the Civil Rights Act applying to private businesses was a necessity.

Jim Bob's Diner isn't an institution any more than a private political movement.
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RickyTheBAWSE
04/04/17 1:25:49 PM
#169:


gamepimp12 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
that's a stupid thing to tag somebody as


Dude was literally defending assault because the victim was a Trump supporter. (IIRC)

See yeah I def didn't defend it.

Probably said the person deserved it.

Didn't defend it.

Defending it would be saying the person didn't deserve jail time for the assault


he also said that I condone White people having their land taken from them in South Africa because I pointed out that as an American, I can't weigh in too far on how South Africa handles things.

its hilarious because I've been consistent about that with every country that isn't America. but because I didn't automatically jump in to defend White people, I condone it according to him and the other fragile one.

people who want to be victims will portray themselves as such. even if it's not even his own experience, lol.
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Questionmarktarius
04/04/17 1:29:13 PM
#170:


A Novel Idea posted...
To be clear, my post is asking how Jim Crow laws are comparable to this BLM chapter's meeting rule

At a basic mechanical, "no, because melanin" implementation.

But, if that BLM chapter is a "private club" or similar, then too damn bad. Exactly who or why they're excluding is irrelevant then.
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gamepimp12
04/04/17 1:29:22 PM
#171:


UnfairRepresent posted...
gamepimp12 posted...


Probably said the person deserved it.


Jesus Christ...


They obviously just weren't a trump supporter and had to have done something additional.
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Bishop9800
04/04/17 1:29:47 PM
#172:


gatorsPENSbucs posted...
We should just go back to segregation, it'll definitely make black people happy.



Says who?
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RchHomieQuanChi
04/04/17 1:30:48 PM
#173:


UnfairRepresent posted...
Your repeated pathetic defense of segregation because "It's not literally as bad as another famous example of segregation." is embarrassing.


I wouldn't have to repeat anything if you didn't constantly try to throw around the word "segregation" and "racist" as buzzwords instead of trying to make a point.
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/17 1:33:52 PM
#174:


Bishop9800 posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
We should just go back to segregation, it'll definitely make black people happy.



Says who?

Black Lives Matter

they're calling for segregated schooling again
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RickyTheBAWSE
04/04/17 1:34:00 PM
#175:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Your repeated pathetic defense of segregation because "It's not literally as bad as another famous example of segregation." is embarrassing.


I wouldn't have to repeat anything if you didn't constantly try to throw around the word "segregation" and "racist" as buzzwords instead of trying to make a point.


you're going to end up wasting a lot of time saying things like, "I didn't say that" to this guy. the gimmick dedication is unhealthy.
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gamepimp12
04/04/17 1:38:51 PM
#176:


DifferentialEquation posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X posted...
I hate this whole delusional idea that some of these black folks have thinking like they're still going through the struggle. Society has changed the only ones that hasn't changed is them. The government has done their best to help them. With programs that helps them get out the street life and educational programs that helps them get into college. Yet they still complain that they're being oppressed.



"YEAHHHHH BLACK PEOPLE ARE JUST LAZY THATS WHY THEY LAG BEHIND IN EDUCATIONAL AND WEALTH STATISTICS" *spits chewing tobacco in empty gatorade bottle*


Stop strawmanning. It's fairly common knowledge that success in education is highly correlated with socioeconomic status. No one except for a few idiots think that black people are lazy and that it's what's causing the statistical outcomes.


Considering how much we hear about boot straps it's more than just a few.


But duhhh.
My entire statement was dripping with sarcasm everyone's going at me like dude didn't just say black people don't want to help themselves.
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Eddie_Bhoy_1888
04/04/17 1:42:37 PM
#177:


"No whites allowed"

I'd love it if they banned Shaun King.
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/17 1:44:56 PM
#178:


gamepimp12 posted...


Considering how much we hear about boot straps it's more than just a few.

"bootstraps" and "you're lazy" are not the same statement.

What is it with you people? Why are you so bad at arguing?
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darkbuster
04/04/17 1:55:23 PM
#179:


If you've ever been in these... types of meetings, you'd understand why this probably isn't rooted in malicious intent. These kinds of discussions usually about issues & subjects that the group in question may not be comfortable talking about with members who are NOT in that group, especially when minorities are attempting to have a forum about issues in their community, white people are the least wanted presence for that kind of thing.
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 2:29:11 PM
#180:


darkbuster posted...
If you've ever been in these... types of meetings, you'd understand why this probably isn't rooted in malicious intent. These kinds of discussions usually about issues & subjects that the group in question may not be comfortable talking about with members who are NOT in that group, especially when minorities are attempting to have a forum about issues in their community, white people are the least wanted presence for that kind of thing.

What could they possibly talk about that's constructive but can't be said around white people
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UnfairRepresent
04/04/17 2:34:51 PM
#182:


Mal_Fet posted...

What could they possibly talk about that's constructive but can't be said around white people

You know full well
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Caution999
04/04/17 2:40:10 PM
#183:


I know Mal_Fet isn't perfect, but I don't recall him supporting the KKK.
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EggplantParm
04/04/17 2:40:25 PM
#184:


Bishop9800 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
We should just go back to segregation, it'll definitely make black people happy.



Says who?

Black Lives Matter

they're calling for segregated schooling again



So BLM speaks for all black people?


Mal_Fet posted...
What could they possibly talk about that's constructive but can't be said around white people


Probably the same thing the KKK and other groups (that you surport) talk about but can't be said around black people.



So BLM is like the KKK?
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Bishop9800
04/04/17 2:44:22 PM
#185:


EggplantParm posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
We should just go back to segregation, it'll definitely make black people happy.



Says who?

Black Lives Matter

they're calling for segregated schooling again



So BLM speaks for all black people?


Mal_Fet posted...
What could they possibly talk about that's constructive but can't be said around white people


Probably the same thing the KKK and other groups (that you surport) talk about but can't be said around black people.



So BLM is like the KKK?



According to alot of people on here, yeah they are.
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EggplantParm
04/04/17 2:47:14 PM
#186:


Bishop9800 posted...
EggplantParm posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
We should just go back to segregation, it'll definitely make black people happy.



Says who?

Black Lives Matter

they're calling for segregated schooling again



So BLM speaks for all black people?


Mal_Fet posted...
What could they possibly talk about that's constructive but can't be said around white people


Probably the same thing the KKK and other groups (that you surport) talk about but can't be said around black people.



So BLM is like the KKK?



According to alot of people on here, yeah they are.


You implied it.
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fire810
04/04/17 2:50:53 PM
#187:


monkmith posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
ISYzh5u

well its interesting that they're functionally segregating themselves.


oh, but they still want that money
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 2:51:31 PM
#188:


Bishop9800 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
What could they possibly talk about that's constructive but can't be said around white people


Probably the same thing the KKK and other groups (that you surport) talk about but can't be said around black people.

Dat tacit admission that BLM is a hate group
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RunAwayCaterpie
04/04/17 2:53:31 PM
#189:


gamepimp12 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
BigSLM1993 posted...
Obviously this isn't the same as a government enforced segregation, but the principal still stands that you shouldn't shun away your allies like this.

Oh I can understand that. I'm not 100% comfortable with this BLM chapter's decision either. I just understand where they're coming from.

There's this sentiment that people, oftentimes unintentionally, tend to hijack movements that aren't about them. This was just a way for black people to keep their autonomy in the decision making process.


This

As a black man I can totally see why they thought it would be nessacry from both cultural and personal experiences.

But a choice like that comes with a whole different set of problems.


If you're having a genuine discussion about black issues generally a non black ( especially white) person speaking on it does more harm then good.

But aren't the people excluded the people that they think are treating them unfairly? Shouldn't they know what they are doing to wrong?
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Bishop9800
04/04/17 2:53:57 PM
#190:


Mal_Fet posted...
Dat tacit admission that BLM is a hate group



No it's not. You ask what can they be talking about. And I answered by giving a example. Stop trying to deflect what I said.
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ThanksUglyGod
04/04/17 2:57:33 PM
#191:


Thought Experiment:

Say your high school is throwing an end-of-the-year dance. The party is going to have a lot of references to events throughout the school year. Attendees can invite people from other schools no problem.

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Philosopher_X
04/04/17 2:59:12 PM
#192:


Historically there has always been those who take issue with Black people being able to congregate amongst themselves. It's why churches still get attacked.
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 3:02:46 PM
#193:


Bishop9800 posted...
No it's not. You ask what can they be talking about. And I answered by giving a example. Stop trying to deflect what I said.

Your example of something that cannot be said around people of another race was hate speech. So is BLM spouting hate speech? Because that's what you're saying.
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04/04/17 3:05:39 PM
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gamepimp12
04/04/17 3:08:01 PM
#195:


RunAwayCaterpie posted...
gamepimp12 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
BigSLM1993 posted...
Obviously this isn't the same as a government enforced segregation, but the principal still stands that you shouldn't shun away your allies like this.

Oh I can understand that. I'm not 100% comfortable with this BLM chapter's decision either. I just understand where they're coming from.

There's this sentiment that people, oftentimes unintentionally, tend to hijack movements that aren't about them. This was just a way for black people to keep their autonomy in the decision making process.


This

As a black man I can totally see why they thought it would be nessacry from both cultural and personal experiences.

But a choice like that comes with a whole different set of problems.


If you're having a genuine discussion about black issues generally a non black ( especially white) person speaking on it does more harm then good.

But aren't the people excluded the people that they think are treating them unfairly? Shouldn't they know what they are doing to wrong?


Yes.

Because they are exclude from these meetings doesn't mean that blm isn't meeting with them.
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Bishop9800
04/04/17 3:08:11 PM
#196:


Mal_Fet posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
No it's not. You ask what can they be talking about. And I answered by giving a example. Stop trying to deflect what I said.

Your example of something that cannot be said around people of another race was hate speech. So is BLM spouting hate speech? Because that's what you're saying.



Lol!! So you know what they said was hate speech? Please let me know what they said.
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 3:11:36 PM
#197:


Bishop9800 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
No it's not. You ask what can they be talking about. And I answered by giving a example. Stop trying to deflect what I said.

Your example of something that cannot be said around people of another race was hate speech. So is BLM spouting hate speech? Because that's what you're saying.



Lol!! So you know what they said was hate speech? Please let me know what they said.

I asked what sort of subject BLM could be talking about that cannot be said around white people. The only example you gave me was "The same stuff white people say at a KKK rally", implying that BLM is a hate group similar to the KKK and wants no white people around so they can be as racist as they want.

I mean, wow, all you had to do was give one reasonable subject that black people don;t want to talk about around white people and the example you chose was hate speech. Holy crap.
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LysistrataMedea
04/04/17 3:12:35 PM
#198:


BLM is more akin to Black Panthers than the black civil rights movement, how would white people at a Black Panthers meeting be beneficial at all?
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Kineth
04/04/17 3:14:16 PM
#199:


Odd, I'm pretty sure that Mal_Fet has defended the KKK vociferously.

And I'm pretty sure that equating BLM and the KKK to black and white people in general is a pretty telling sign of that.
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EggplantParm
04/04/17 3:15:32 PM
#200:


Bishop9800 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
No it's not. You ask what can they be talking about. And I answered by giving a example. Stop trying to deflect what I said.

Your example of something that cannot be said around people of another race was hate speech. So is BLM spouting hate speech? Because that's what you're saying.



Lol!! So you know what they said was hate speech? Please let me know what they said.



It's like you can't read and don't understand your own words....holy shit.
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Bishop9800
04/04/17 3:15:54 PM
#201:


Mal_Fet posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Mal_Fet posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
No it's not. You ask what can they be talking about. And I answered by giving a example. Stop trying to deflect what I said.

Your example of something that cannot be said around people of another race was hate speech. So is BLM spouting hate speech? Because that's what you're saying.



Lol!! So you know what they said was hate speech? Please let me know what they said.

I asked what sort of subject BLM could be talking about that cannot be said around white people. The only example you gave me was "The same stuff white people say at a KKK rally", implying that BLM is a hate group similar to the KKK and wants no white people around so they can be as racist as they want.

I mean, wow, all you had to do was give one reasonable subject that black people don;t want to talk about around white people and the example you chose was hate speech. Holy crap.




Whatever you want to tell yourself. Keep thinking that.



LysistrataMedea posted...
BLM is more akin to Black Panthers than the black civil rights movement, how would white people at a Black Panthers meeting be beneficial at all?


You do know that there was members in the Black Panthers who was white right?
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Mal_Fet
04/04/17 3:16:18 PM
#202:


Kineth posted...
Odd, I'm pretty sure that Mal_Fet has defended the KKK vociferously.

I never did that, and go screw yourself.

Kineth posted...
And I'm pretty sure that equating BLM and the KKK to black and white people in general is a pretty telling sign of that.

Bishop did that, not me.
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Bishop9800
04/04/17 3:19:09 PM
#203:


I find it funny that Mal wants to talk about"hate speech". But he himself got banned for posting hate speech and came back on another alt to continue with the hate speech.
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I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you.
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