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toptopmax 04/05/17 1:42:33 AM #1:	wouldn't they be more viable for winning elections? Its a massive single issue for a lot of people. And by a lot of people, I mean the people who love guns. Few people are adamantly against guns, and the whole anti-gun stance causes people to buy more guns anyways. --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:876568803] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>wouldn't they be more viable for winning elections? Its a massive single issue for a lot of people. And by a lot of people, I mean the people who love guns. Few people are adamantly against guns, and the whole anti-gun stance causes people to buy more guns anyways.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanielCormier 04/05/17 1:46:09 AM #2:	toptopmax posted... Few people are adamantly against guns Define "against" and source please. --- http://i.imgur.com/YmrwIJx.jpg <cite>DanielCormier posted [p:876568938] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote>Few people are adamantly against guns</quote> Define "against" and source please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 04/05/17 1:47:12 AM #3:	If dems dropped the guns and abortion nonsense we'd win every election with 80% of the vote. --- #FeelTheBern http://i.imgur.com/q5z4CUu.jpg http://i.imgur.com/6B9oFXh.jpg http://i.imgur.com/sy42Dlf.jpg <cite>lilORANG posted [p:876568985] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>If dems dropped the guns and abortion nonsense we'd win every election with 80% of the vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/05/17 1:48:38 AM #4:	Most Dems are not hard line on guns. Hell Obama was about as hard on guns are Reagan was, yet republicans felt that he was going to steal all their guns away. So it doesn't matter what their stands is . Republicans will not care. As long as the person they bow down to has that R by their name they think they are ok. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:876569038] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>Most Dems are not hard line on guns. Hell Obama was about as hard on guns are Reagan was, yet republicans felt that he was going to steal all their guns away. So it doesn't matter what their stands is . Republicans will not care. As long as the person they bow down to has that R by their name they think they are ok.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/05/17 1:50:43 AM #5:	lilORANG posted... If dems dropped the guns and abortion nonsense we'd win every election with 80% of the vote. Yeah neither party respecting women would be great if it meant my team wins --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:876569130] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>lilORANG posted...</cite> <quote>If dems dropped the guns and abortion nonsense we'd win every election with 80% of the vote.</quote> Yeah neither party respecting women would be great if it meant my team wins</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 04/05/17 1:57:20 AM #6:	If Republicans would stop fear mongering that Democrats want to steal everyone's guns, it'd be great. --- http://i.imgur.com/jWVrg9U.gif http://i.imgur.com/g2efUtT.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5dOwhaP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/LVdqu8J.gif Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:876569359] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>If Republicans would stop fear mongering that Democrats want to steal everyone's guns, it'd be great.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/05/17 1:58:12 AM #7:	sktgamer_13dude posted... If Republicans would stop fear mongering that Democrats want to steal everyone's guns, it'd be great. That's the entire point. Everybody fear mongers. Dems keep pushing a point that has modest support, intense opposition and ultimately does more harm than good. --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:876569393] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>sktgamer_13dude posted...</cite> <quote>If Republicans would stop fear mongering that Democrats want to steal everyone's guns, it'd be great.</quote> That's the entire point. Everybody fear mongers. Dems keep pushing a point that has modest support, intense opposition and ultimately does more harm than good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/05/17 2:09:31 AM #8:	Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:876569822] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/05/17 2:13:08 AM #9:	Dash_Harber posted... Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right. Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity? --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:876569955] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right.</quote> Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/05/17 2:14:36 AM #10:	toptopmax posted... Dash_Harber posted... Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right. Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity? I'm not, you asked why Democrats don't lie and say they support unrestricted guns to get votes. I said it was a bad idea to encourage politicians to lie more. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:876570005] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right.</quote> Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity?</quote> I'm not, you asked why Democrats don't lie and say they support unrestricted guns to get votes. I said it was a bad idea to encourage politicians to lie more.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/05/17 2:19:45 AM #11:	Dash_Harber posted... toptopmax posted... Dash_Harber posted... Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right. Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity? I'm not, you asked why Democrats don't lie and say they support unrestricted guns to get votes. I said it was a bad idea to encourage politicians to lie more. Which is why you drop the nonsensical politicians who can't drop the whole gun thing. It doesn't even work and new ones who don't car. --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:876570201] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right.</quote> Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity?</quote> I'm not, you asked why Democrats don't lie and say they support unrestricted guns to get votes. I said it was a bad idea to encourage politicians to lie more.</quote> Which is why you drop the nonsensical politicians who can't drop the whole gun thing. It doesn't even work and new ones who don't car.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkBuster22904 04/05/17 2:20:20 AM #12:	Dash_Harber posted... Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right. And then you get trump. Personally, I'd think there comes a point where winning becomes more important than moral grandstanding --- There's somethin' strange on the message board. Who you gonna call? <cite>DarkBuster22904 posted [p:876570219] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right.</quote> And then you get trump. Personally, I'd think there comes a point where winning becomes more important than moral grandstanding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/05/17 2:20:20 AM #13:	toptopmax posted... Dash_Harber posted... toptopmax posted... Dash_Harber posted... Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right. Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity? I'm not, you asked why Democrats don't lie and say they support unrestricted guns to get votes. I said it was a bad idea to encourage politicians to lie more. Which is why you drop the nonsensical politicians who can't drop the whole gun thing. It doesn't even work and new ones who don't car. I'm pretty sure their supporters care. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:876570220] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Even if that was true, maybe we don't need any more parties that base their platform on what will get them elected instead of what they actually believe is right.</quote> Its one fucking issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. One issue. Why are you so obsessed with ideological purity?</quote> I'm not, you asked why Democrats don't lie and say they support unrestricted guns to get votes. I said it was a bad idea to encourage politicians to lie more.</quote> Which is why you drop the nonsensical politicians who can't drop the whole gun thing. It doesn't even work and new ones who don't car.</quote> I'm pretty sure their supporters care.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/05/17 2:21:24 AM #14:	Dash_Harber posted... I'm pretty sure their supporters care. And they are purists. That's the problem. Obama is literally the greatest gun salesman of modern times. Its not winnable. --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:876570255] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>I'm pretty sure their supporters care.</quote> And they are purists. That's the problem. Obama is literally the greatest gun salesman of modern times. Its not winnable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NonDairyMiltank 04/05/17 2:22:19 AM #15:	"If democrats..." "If republicans..." oh hey, President Trump, welcome to your 2nd term --- le Moo <cite>NonDairyMiltank posted [p:876570288] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>"If democrats..." "If republicans..." oh hey, President Trump, welcome to your 2nd term</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/05/17 2:24:42 AM #16:	I don't know man, I'm not in charge of the party, I'm just pointing out that it's not ideological purity, it's the whole fucking point of having parties in the first place. If they don't differ on issues, there is really no reason to have more than one fucking party. I think their supporters think it's important, and they'd lose all the so called 'purists' (which is ridiculous to label them because parties are supposed to take a position on every damn issue and people side with the ones that support the most similar positions as them) in exchange for splitting the vote of the other side. What would be the damn point? <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:876570372] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>I don't know man, I'm not in charge of the party, I'm just pointing out that it's not ideological purity, it's the whole fucking point of having parties in the first place. If they don't differ on issues, there is really no reason to have more than one fucking party. I think their supporters think it's important, and they'd lose all the so called 'purists' (which is ridiculous to label them because parties are supposed to take a position on every damn issue and people side with the ones that support the most similar positions as them) in exchange for splitting the vote of the other side. What would be the damn point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/05/17 2:25:23 AM #17:	toptopmax posted... Obama is literally the greatest gun salesman of modern times. Its not winnable. Oh, I get it. You are trolling, my bad. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:876570391] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote>Obama is literally the greatest gun salesman of modern times. Its not winnable.</quote> Oh, I get it. You are trolling, my bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
toptopmax 04/05/17 2:28:36 AM #18:	Dash_Harber posted... Oh, I get it. You are trolling, my bad. http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/06/news/obama-gun-control-sales/ Just accept that you are a purist. You aren't moved by facts and rationale. --- pulp reality <cite>toptopmax posted [p:876570489] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, I get it. You are trolling, my bad.</quote> http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/06/news/obama-gun-control-sales/ Just accept that you are a purist. You aren't moved by facts and rationale.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dash_Harber 04/05/17 2:30:06 AM #19:	toptopmax posted... Dash_Harber posted... Oh, I get it. You are trolling, my bad. http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/06/news/obama-gun-control-sales/ Just accept that you are a purist. You aren't moved by facts and rationale. We are talking about liberals. How the fuck does that make me a purist? I don't think I ever stated a damn thing about my personal beliefs here. <cite>Dash_Harber posted [p:876570541] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote><cite>toptopmax posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dash_Harber posted...</cite> <quote>Oh, I get it. You are trolling, my bad.</quote> http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/06/news/obama-gun-control-sales/ Just accept that you are a purist. You aren't moved by facts and rationale.</quote> We are talking about liberals. How the fuck does that make me a purist? I don't think I ever stated a damn thing about my personal beliefs here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 04/06/17 11:42:47 AM #20:	How are the democrats anti-gun? They are typically common-sense gun regulations. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:876656547] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>How are the democrats anti-gun? They are typically common-sense gun regulations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkChozoGhost 04/06/17 11:44:08 AM #21:	No. If it weren't for abortion, they'd win everything though --- My sister's dog bit a hole in my Super Mario Land cartridge. It still works though - Skye Reynolds 3DS FC: 3239-5612-0115 <cite>DarkChozoGhost posted [p:876656627] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>No. If it weren't for abortion, they'd win everything though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/06/17 11:46:08 AM #22:	Something like 80% of the country supported the background checks on gun sales that Democrats pushed for following Sandy Hook. The public at large isn't for a repeal of the 2nd amendment, but there is certainly the political space for the Democrats' views on gun control. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:876656772] in If Democra... [t:75199785]...</cite> <quote>Something like 80% of the country supported the background checks on gun sales that Democrats pushed for following Sandy Hook. The public at large isn't for a repeal of the 2nd amendment, but there is certainly the political space for the Democrats' views on gun control.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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