Poll of the Day > Man who was dragged off United flight has turned into international incident

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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/asia/united-passenger-dragged-off-china-reaction/

Great job United!
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So because they operate heavily in China so it was statistically more likely a Chinese man would be removed, it's racist?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

So because they operate heavily in China so it was statistically more likely a Chinese man would be removed, it's racist?

There wouldn't be an international incident if United hadn't beaten the fuck out of a paying customer.
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At least he wasn't Black...

Awesome less people on planes equals better flying experience.
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What the article conveniently leaves out is that he was asked 4 times to exit the plane and one of the times they got him out he ran back on to the plane. I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified but CNN does a terrible job of not telling the whole story.
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Jiggy101011 posted...

What the article conveniently leaves out is that he was asked 4 times to exit the plane and one of the times they got him out he ran back on to the plane. I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified but CNN does a terrible job of not telling the whole story.

There are other articles detailing the whole thing. If you wanna read one of those then do that. What this article details is that the story has turned international.

He was asked 4 times and he had every right to refuse to leave. Maybe they should've offered more fucking money to get people to leave instead of giving up after offering $800 like a bunch of cheap fucks.
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Erik_P posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

What the article conveniently leaves out is that he was asked 4 times to exit the plane and one of the times they got him out he ran back on to the plane. I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified but CNN does a terrible job of not telling the whole story.

There are other articles detailing the whole thing. If you wanna read one of those then do that. What this article details is that the story has turned international.

He was asked 4 times and he had every right to refuse to leave. Maybe they should've offered more fucking money to get people to leave instead of giving up after offering $800 like a bunch of cheap fucks.

The article also retells the incident and they left off the other side of the story but thank God they let me know what a Chinese comedian that has been on David Letterman has to say about the incident. It's bad journalism when you have to go to other media sources to read the full story.

Also a reimbursement of $800 for a flight is pretty damn good. A nonstop flight from Chicago to Louisville tickets are currently $221, the same flight that guy was on.
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Jiggy101011 posted...

Erik_P posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

What the article conveniently leaves out is that he was asked 4 times to exit the plane and one of the times they got him out he ran back on to the plane. I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified but CNN does a terrible job of not telling the whole story.

There are other articles detailing the whole thing. If you wanna read one of those then do that. What this article details is that the story has turned international.

He was asked 4 times and he had every right to refuse to leave. Maybe they should've offered more fucking money to get people to leave instead of giving up after offering $800 like a bunch of cheap fucks.

The article also retells the incident and they left off the other side of the story but thank God they let me know what a Chinese comedian that has been on David Letterman has to say about the incident. It's bad journalism when you have to go to other media sources to read the full story.

Also a reimbursement of $800 for a flight is pretty damn good. A nonstop flight from Chicago to Louisville tickets are currently $221, the same flight that guy was on.

I don't think you read very many news articles. If they included the original story with every update, the articles would be twice as long. That's why they give a brief summary. If you want the full story, go look it up.

Also, $800 is jack shit. You're actually entitled to far more than that.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/after-bumped-off-flight-heres-what-need-know-legally-department-transportation-fly-airplane-airline-2017-4
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they keep acting like united airlines staff dragged him off the flight

he got dragged off by police rofl
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Oh no, a bunch of chinese people on twitter are calling this racism.

The horror.
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FatalAccident posted...

they keep acting like united airlines staff dragged him off the flight

he got dragged off by police rofl

Yea because United told the cops to do it.
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The guy even suffered a concussion. You can clearly see one of the officers dragged him off the seat and his head violently hit the armrest of the seat across the hallway.

If the guy sues, it's gonna cost them a bit more than $800.
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Smarkil posted...

Oh no, a bunch of chinese people on twitter are calling this racism.

The horror.

Well tell them to take their privileged selves and shove it

Guy was even a doctor so its okay right? After all, hate anyone who has money right?
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they sucked so good, let the PR hate spread!
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So...what should United have done instead?
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I still remember when I flew to Texas once the airliner offered $400 bucks, Free Plane ticket and a free Hotel stay for overbooking...I was eating at the time, and some guy leaped up and took the offer before I could react.

I mean, to some $800 bucks is still nice piece of change...I really don't know why no one wouldn't take it. They must had alot of well off people on that flight.

"Not enough seating, prepare for a beating"
"If we can't beat our competitors, we'll beat our customers"
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

So...what should United have done instead?

Kept on raising the money offer until people took it.

Not beat the fuck out of a paying customer.

pionear posted...

I still remember when I flew to Texas once the airliner offered $400 bucks, Free Plane ticket and a free Hotel stay for overbooking...I was eating at the time, and some guy leaped up and took the offer before I could react.

I mean, to some $800 bucks is still nice piece of change...I really don't know why no one wouldn't take it. They must had alot of well off people on that flight.

Or people actually know what their rights are.
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

So...what should United have done instead?

Figured out a way to shuttle their staff around that didn't involve kicking customers off of planes they've already boarded, randomly selected somebody else when this guy's flight turned out to be time-sensitive, handled the overbooking (though it wasn't really an overbooking) at check-in instead of after boarding such that dealing with a belligerent passenger wouldn't have to be so violent... The guy could probably have been more reasonable about his objection, but United did a lot of things very wrong here, and a man was seriously injured as a result. They absolutely should be held accountable for that, and for doing everything that can be done on their end to prevent such a series of events from ever happening again.
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Erik_P posted...

Kept on raising the money offer until people took it.

Not beat the fuck out of a paying customer.

adjl posted...

Tropic_Sunset posted...

So...what should United have done instead?

Figured out a way to shuttle their staff around that didn't involve kicking customers off of planes they've already boarded, randomly selected somebody else when this guy's flight turned out to be time-sensitive, handled the overbooking (though it wasn't really an overbooking) at check-in instead of after boarding such that dealing with a belligerent passenger wouldn't have to be so violent... The guy could probably have been more reasonable about his objection, but United did a lot of things very wrong here, and a man was seriously injured as a result. They absolutely should be held accountable for that, and for doing everything that can be done on their end to prevent such a series of events from ever happening again.

I agree with adjl. The way I see it, they have two alternative options, one bad, one good.

1. Find another person to kick off the flight. However, after seeing one person successfully refuse, others are likely to follow suit if they don't want to be ejected.

2. Find another flight for their last employee, make due with the 3, or shuffle things around so they could get another employee onto the flight from another location and send the 4th employee to cover the replacement. This wouldn't be too difficult.

The additional money offer isn't a bad idea either, but people could still refuse. However, it should've been tried, at the very least.
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Erik_P posted...

Yea because United told the cops to do it.

its not down to united that the police decided to beat the shit out of him

i'm not even on anybody's side but tbh people are making this a bigger deal than it is

waah somebody got dragged off a flight that they were asked to get off of, and likely would have got accommodation and free flight and money for

this story is nonsense tbqh
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Oh my.

pionear posted...

I mean, to some $800 bucks is still nice piece of change...I really don't know why no one wouldn't take it. They must had alot of well off people on that flight.

This wasn't cash, but coupons, basically. From the sounds of it on another site, not even good ones, instead it was several $50 coupons that didn't stack and would expire. You would simply get a discount on multiple flights if you did them all in time.
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

So...what should United have done instead?

let him fly and deal with it. it's not his fault they overbooked.

Tropic_Sunset posted...

So...what should United have done instead?

Provide the service that the customer already paid for.
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adjl posted...

Figured out a way to shuttle their staff around that didn't involve kicking customers off of planes they've already boarded

this
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DeltaBladeX posted...

pionear posted...

I mean, to some $800 bucks is still nice piece of change...I really don't know why no one wouldn't take it. They must had alot of well off people on that flight.

This wasn't cash, but coupons, basically. From the sounds of it on another site, not even good ones, instead it was several $50 coupons that didn't stack and would expire. You would simply get a discount on multiple flights if you did them all in time.

Well, I wasn't aware of that...the news stories always stated it was $800 Cash (maybe on a debit card or check) offered.

I know when that offer came for my flight, the attendant clearly said 'Cash'.

Jiggy101011 posted...

I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified

I was under the impression it was broken?
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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified

I was under the impression it was broken?

Broken nose, lost some teeth, broken ribs, concussion
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Ah, that's more in line with what was mentioned on "De Kwis", but then again, they also managed to turn it into a panda joke.
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Erik_P posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified

I was under the impression it was broken?

Broken nose, lost some teeth, broken ribs, concussion

That dude needs to drink some milk

Cacciato posted...

Erik_P posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified

I was under the impression it was broken?

Broken nose, lost some teeth, broken ribs, concussion

That dude needs to drink some milk

He's 69 years old. Bones aren't are as strong at that age.

streamofthesky posted...

Cacciato posted...

Erik_P posted...

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Jiggy101011 posted...

I'm not saying his bloody nose was justified

I was under the impression it was broken?

Broken nose, lost some teeth, broken ribs, concussion

That dude needs to drink some milk

He's 69 years old. Bones aren't are as strong at that age.

Whaaaaat, no way thanks I had no idea

pionear posted...

At least he wasn't Black...

We'd have people standing on runways and then bitching when they got hit by a plane trying to land.
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pionear posted...

Well, I wasn't aware of that...the news stories always stated it was $800 Cash (maybe on a debit card or check) offered.

I know when that offer came for my flight, the attendant clearly said 'Cash'.

Volunteering can be whatever they want in terms of how you are paid. Nice to know you were offered cash in a similar event though.
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Erik_P posted...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

So because they operate heavily in China so it was statistically more likely a Chinese man would be removed, it's racist?

There wouldn't be an international incident if United hadn't beaten the fuck out of a paying customer.

This. Let's not lose sight of the whole "handled it poorly" part of the story.
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