Current Events > Cop who shot Charles Kinsey (black guy on the ground) charged with manslaughter

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The Admiral
04/12/17 4:23:18 PM
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http://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/charleskinsey-shooting-jonathan-aledda-cop-who-shot-charles-kinsey-charged-with-attempted-manslaughter-9272627

Before he was shot:
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The Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office announced it has charged North Miami SWAT Officer Jonathan Aledda with felony attempted manslaughter and misdemeanor culpable negligence after Aledda shot Charles Kinsey, an unarmed black man, in July 2016. Kinsey was simply trying to help an autistic man, Arnaldo Rios-Soto, out of the street when a bystander called 911 and said Rios-Soto might have been holding a gun. Rios-Soto was, in fact, holding a toy truck when Aledda fired his weapon.

A cell-phone video caught Kinsey lying on his back with his arms in the air, repeatedly stressing he was complying with cops, and begging officers not to shoot just before he was hit.

"These charges are the result of a lengthy inquiry which included a prosecutorial review of the police investigation, numerous police and prosecutor meetings to review case evidence, site re-enactments, and the taking of additional statements of police witnesses after the completion of the FDLE investigation," a news release from Rundle's office reads. Aledda's bond is set at $6,000, according to his arrest warrant.


This was the guy who was shot while on his back helping an autistic kid in the street.

This cop deserved to be charged and was, but it's good to see a charge brought after a thorough investigation and review of all the evidence, rather than as a knee-jerk reaction to mob crying like we saw in the Freddie Gray case.
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Seaman_Prime
04/12/17 4:47:37 PM
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good
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Kirby
04/12/17 4:51:45 PM
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Fair, next.
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ProudlyHated74
04/12/17 4:54:22 PM
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Kirby posted...
Fair, next.

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E32005
04/12/17 4:54:59 PM
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eggcorn
04/12/17 4:55:45 PM
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The Admiral posted...
This cop deserved to be charged and was, but it's good to see a charge brought after a thorough investigation and review of all the evidence, rather than as a knee-jerk reaction to mob crying like we saw in the Freddie Gray case.

ProudlyHated74 posted...
Kirby posted...
Fair, next.
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TommyG663513
04/12/17 4:59:15 PM
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E32005 posted...
Kirby posted...
Fair, next.


I'd wait to see if he actually gets convicted. I'd also think it'd be fair for him to be barred from ever serving in law enforcement ever again.
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CableZL
04/12/17 5:06:22 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex
04/12/17 5:07:14 PM
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Fair next I guess but I feel like harsher charges wouldn't be unwarranted.

Don't shoot someone unless you intend to kill them. Don't want to get bogged down in the differences between the different homicide charges but this seems like the "softest" they can admit fault.

I mean fuck, if I (not a cop) point my gun at someone, they're complying then I fucking shoot . . . do we even need to speculate?
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davyheinz
04/12/17 5:07:47 PM
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Kirby posted...
Fair, next.

CableZL posted...
Now let's see if he actually gets convicted.

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Vertania
04/12/17 5:09:42 PM
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It's not manslaughter if the person doesn't die.

"Attempted manslaughter" sounds really weird though.
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UnfairRepresent
04/12/17 5:09:49 PM
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E32005 posted...
Kirby posted...
Fair, next.

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Kineth
04/12/17 5:12:58 PM
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Vertania
04/12/17 5:14:01 PM
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Kineth posted...
Not sure how he could be charged with manslaughter.

He wasn't, TC just messed up the title.
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E32005
04/12/17 5:16:32 PM
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if this is the same guy i'm thinking of, the following transpired on video:

"YOU SHOT ME! I surrendered and you SHOT ME!!....WHY DID YOU SHOOT ME!?!?!"

Cop: "I.....I have no idea"
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CableZL
04/12/17 5:18:45 PM
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E32005 posted...
if this is the same guy i'm thinking of, the following transpired on video:

"YOU SHOT ME! I surrendered and you SHOT ME!!....WHY DID YOU SHOOT ME!?!?!"

Cop: "I.....I have no idea"


Yeah, that's about how it went.
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iPhone_7
04/12/17 5:22:12 PM
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Do regular people get this treatment? Accused of shooting someone and nothing comes about it for almost a year?
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E32005
04/12/17 5:23:21 PM
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yeah i got no sympathy for a dumbass cop
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Philoktetes
04/12/17 5:24:01 PM
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but you have sympathy for a criminal?
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TheBiggerWiggle
04/12/17 5:24:11 PM
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What the hell is attempted manslaughter? He tried to accidentally kill the guy?

Either way this does mean anything until the guy is convicted. We've seen plenty of cops be charged and walk away free.
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E32005
04/12/17 5:24:45 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
but you have sympathy for a criminal?

he wasnt a criminal there, corky
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Webmaster4531
04/12/17 5:25:20 PM
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Where was he hit?
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Twin3Turbo
04/12/17 5:26:40 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
but you have sympathy for a criminal?


Who's the criminal in this situation?
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CableZL
04/12/17 5:29:11 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
Where was he hit?


In the leg, I believe.
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E32005
04/12/17 5:29:35 PM
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i think philo either fucked up and bailed or is just straight shitposting
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Zikten
04/12/17 5:30:00 PM
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Twin3Turbo posted...
Philoktetes posted...
but you have sympathy for a criminal?


Who's the criminal in this situation?

the cop. there was just an autistic man playing with a toy that people thought was a gun, and his helper. and then a cop shot the helper
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Nomadic View
04/12/17 5:30:03 PM
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It's an odd charge.

Under the MPC manslaughter is when someone recklessly kills another as the result of extreme mental or emotional disturbance.

There must be intent for someone to attempt to commit a crime. A person cannot attempt to be reckless.

The police officer should absolutely be charged with a crime, some type of felonious recklessness, but if the police officer has a particularly savvy defense lawyer the prosecution may have a hard time making that charge carry water.

But it's a state I'm not familiar with, so there may be some underlying precedent there.
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Webmaster4531
04/12/17 11:04:40 PM
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Philoktetes posted...
but you have sympathy for a criminal?

Why the fuck is this up?
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twitterfriends
04/12/17 11:17:53 PM
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I hate these sheltered white folks who call 911 on anyone and claim "they might have a gun."

You're fucking getting people killed.
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zado19
04/12/17 11:19:30 PM
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He died????
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HiddenRoar
04/12/17 11:46:08 PM
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twitterfriends posted...
I hate these sheltered white folks who call 911 on anyone and claim "they might have a gun."

You're fucking getting people killed.


The guy who cries about WW3 happening in every topic for the past few months trying to drum up hysteria is crying about other people calling 911. lol
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Webmaster4531
04/14/17 1:28:38 AM
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Philoktetes posted...
but you have sympathy for a criminal?

Come on this post is either intentionally racist or extremely shortsighted.
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Webmaster4531
04/14/17 8:49:16 PM
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:/
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ChainedRedone
04/14/17 8:54:13 PM
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The Admiral posted...
This cop deserved to be charged and was, but it's good to see a charge brought after a thorough investigation and review of all the evidence, rather than as a knee-jerk reaction to mob crying like we saw in the Freddie Gray case.


Shut the fuck up. It's amazing how a civilian will get charged and convicted faster with merely "witness evidence" than a cop who shoots an unarmed man on fucking camera. Jesus Christ what fucking thorough investigation was needed? If only they gave civilians a "thorough investigation" before charging them.
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Akagami_Shanks
04/14/17 8:56:19 PM
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he bailed
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UnfairRepresent
04/15/17 6:26:41 PM
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ChainedRedone posted...
Jesus Christ what fucking thorough investigation was needed?

Literal CE post
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