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Terra-enforcer
04/17/17 7:15:15 PM
#102:


YugiNoob posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
FurryPhilosifer posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/

>VGChartz
>accurate

pick one

http://n4g.com/news/1767628/playstation-vita-sales-top-12-million-worldwide
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/handhelds/your-ps-vita-may-be-gathering-dust-but-it-s-far-from-a-console-failure-1314046
https://www.statista.com/statistics/268966/total-number-of-game-consoles-sold-worldwide-by-console-type/

> 10 million. Real men can just admit when they're wrong you know.

Yeah like you apparently. VGchartz is notorious for flat out making up their data.

And the three other sites I just posted? Why do you choose to flat out ignore their existence?

Because cherry picking

Yeah, no. Obviously the Vita sold over 10 million units, but the other user isn't wrong to point out how shitty of a reference vg chartz is.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/17/17 7:23:12 PM
#103:


Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable, why did you ignore my other references before then? Sales say that it's not the saddest system of all time, whether it's compared to the Game Gear as that guy said, or against the really sad systems like the Wonderswan or Pico.

Since sales seems to be the judge of "sad" here, The Vita is objectively not the saddest, nor is it even close, as it's not even in the bottom 10 in sales.
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Terra-enforcer
04/17/17 7:30:17 PM
#104:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable, why did you ignore my other references before then? Sales say that it's not the saddest system of all time, whether it's compared to the Game Gear as that guy said, or against the really sad systems like the Wonderswan or Pico.

Since sales seems to be the judge of "sad" here, The Vita is objectively not the saddest, nor is it even close, as it's not even in the bottom 10 in sales.

Are you even reading before you post? I literally said that I agree that Vita sales are over 10 million as an acknowledgement of your sources. I also defended the Vita in this very thread.

I'm just pointing out that you were wrong to say what you did about the other guy since he isn't wrong. Vgchartz simply isn't accurate. Your other sources are though.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/17/17 7:44:42 PM
#105:


Terra-enforcer posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable, why did you ignore my other references before then? Sales say that it's not the saddest system of all time, whether it's compared to the Game Gear as that guy said, or against the really sad systems like the Wonderswan or Pico.

Since sales seems to be the judge of "sad" here, The Vita is objectively not the saddest, nor is it even close, as it's not even in the bottom 10 in sales.

Are you even reading before you post? I literally said that I agree that Vita sales are over 10 million as an acknowledgement of your sources. I also defended the Vita in this very thread.

I'm just pointing out that you were wrong to say what you did about the other guy since he isn't wrong. Vgchartz simply isn't accurate. Your other sources are though.

Um, are you even reading before you post? I literally said "why did you ignore my other references before then". Did you not read the "BEFORE" part? In reference to your post (#97) when you said "Yeah like you apparently. VGchartz is notorious for flat out making up their data." and in no way acknowledged my three sources.

I saw that you agreed that the Vita sold over 10 million, and in no way was I arguing about that. I was asking why you chose to completely ignore the sources later provided.

Just read it out thoroughly.

P.S.
Defending the Vita has literally nothing to do with our conversation.
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DKFjalfe
04/17/17 7:46:24 PM
#106:


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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 8:07:07 AM
#107:


@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable, why did you ignore my other references before then? Sales say that it's not the saddest system of all time, whether it's compared to the Game Gear as that guy said, or against the really sad systems like the Wonderswan or Pico.

Since sales seems to be the judge of "sad" here, The Vita is objectively not the saddest, nor is it even close, as it's not even in the bottom 10 in sales.

Are you even reading before you post? I literally said that I agree that Vita sales are over 10 million as an acknowledgement of your sources. I also defended the Vita in this very thread.

I'm just pointing out that you were wrong to say what you did about the other guy since he isn't wrong. Vgchartz simply isn't accurate. Your other sources are though.

Um, are you even reading before you post? I literally said "why did you ignore my other references before then". Did you not read the "BEFORE" part? In reference to your post (#97) when you said "Yeah like you apparently. VGchartz is notorious for flat out making up their data." and in no way acknowledged my three sources.

I saw that you agreed that the Vita sold over 10 million, and in no way was I arguing about that. I was asking why you chose to completely ignore the sources later provided.

Just read it out thoroughly.

P.S.
Defending the Vita has literally nothing to do with our conversation.

It's still YOU who isn't reading buddy. All I added was that vgchartz is a shitty source. Not once did I ignore your other sources, I was simply backing the other user in saying that you used a poor source, which is 100% true. That's it. I never ignored your sources, so you pointing out "before" doesn't change shit when nothing was ignored.

You didn't seem to want to admit that your own source was a poor one, so I pointed out the hypocrisy.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 8:43:48 PM
#108:


Terra-enforcer posted...
It's still YOU who isn't reading buddy. All I added was that vgchartz is a shitty source. Not once did I ignore your other sources, I was simply backing the other user in saying that you used a poor source, which is 100% true. That's it. I never ignored your sources, so you pointing out "before" doesn't change shit when nothing was ignored.

You didn't seem to want to admit that your own source was a poor one, so I pointed out the hypocrisy.

In other words you ignored the other sources. I admitted that VGchartz was unreliable before asking why you ignored my posts; I literally said, and I quote "Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable".

I posted reputable sources after FurryPhilosifer said VGchartz was unreliable. Why did you choose to bring up VGchartz again?
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:00:15 PM
#109:


@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's still YOU who isn't reading buddy. All I added was that vgchartz is a shitty source. Not once did I ignore your other sources, I was simply backing the other user in saying that you used a poor source, which is 100% true. That's it. I never ignored your sources, so you pointing out "before" doesn't change shit when nothing was ignored.

You didn't seem to want to admit that your own source was a poor one, so I pointed out the hypocrisy.

In other words you ignored the other sources. I admitted that VGchartz was unreliable before asking why you ignored my posts; I literally said, and I quote "Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable".

I posted reputable sources after FurryPhilosifer said VGchartz was unreliable. Why did you choose to bring up VGchartz again?

You're drunk, daft, or can't read. I've said multiple times your source wasn't ignored. Now you're just making up shit because you know how dumb your original post in response to me sounded. I've literally said multiple times that my only point was to point out vgchartz. I can't ignore shit when that wasn't my argument to begin with, nor do I think they are fake as I LITERALLY said THEY ARE NOT FAKE several times now. Hopefully this all Caps and bold will help your reading deficiency.

Nowhere before my original post did you admit to vgchartz being a bad source. All you did was dodge that remark by trying to post other sources. It's like you don't even know who said what, or what happened and you're making up shit as you go.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 9:24:48 PM
#110:


Terra-enforcer posted...
@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's still YOU who isn't reading buddy. All I added was that vgchartz is a shitty source. Not once did I ignore your other sources, I was simply backing the other user in saying that you used a poor source, which is 100% true. That's it. I never ignored your sources, so you pointing out "before" doesn't change shit when nothing was ignored.

You didn't seem to want to admit that your own source was a poor one, so I pointed out the hypocrisy.

In other words you ignored the other sources. I admitted that VGchartz was unreliable before asking why you ignored my posts; I literally said, and I quote "Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable".

I posted reputable sources after FurryPhilosifer said VGchartz was unreliable. Why did you choose to bring up VGchartz again?

You're drunk, daft, or can't read. I've said multiple times your source wasn't ignored. Now you're just making up shit because you know how dumb your original post in response to me sounded. I've literally said multiple times that my only point was to point out vgchartz. I can't ignore shit when that wasn't my argument to begin with, nor do I think they are fake as I LITERALLY said THEY ARE NOT FAKE several times now. Hopefully this all Caps and bold will help your reading deficiency.

Nowhere before my original post did you admit to vgchartz being a bad source. All you did was dodge that remark by trying to post other sources. It's like you don't even know who said what, or what happened and you're making up shit as you go.

How in the hell is that making stuff up? The first guy criticized VGchartz; fair. Why would I need to admit that VGchartz was bad when I posted multiple other sources which also confirmed that the Vita sold over 10 million? Those sources which you ignored.

Let me put it simply. Here's what's going on; I don't know why you're arguing otherwise:
- Initial guy says Vita and Game Gear sold the same amount
- I show him VGchartz
- He says it's a bad source
- I go and get other sources
- You come along and also say VGchartz is bad (DESPITE me bringing up other sources. This is also where you start ignoring me BTW, since there's literally no reason to even mention VGchartz since I brought the 3 other sources as evidence) for whatever reason
- And here we are

So seriously...Just tell me why you felt the need to mention that VGchartz was a bad source when that furry guy mentioned it before you, and I brought in replacement sources, also before you. Because that's what I mean when I say you're ignoring me. Here's a simple example of this conversation went

Person A: Cats and dogs are about equally popular
Person B: According to Catsanddogs.com, cats are more popular
Person A: That site is unreliable
Person B: What about these three reputable sites that say that cats are more popular?
Person C: Catsanddogs.com is unreliable

Do you see how Person C contributes literally nothing to the conversation since Person B already went and proved his point? Person A said that Person B's source was bad, so Person B went and got better sources. Then Person C came along and said the same thing as Person A, adding literally nothing to the conversation. Even when Person B brought in 3 substitutes for the initial source, Person C just chose to focus to dwell on the initial source being bad, ignoring the fact that the issue had been settled by the introduction of the new sites.
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GiftedACIII
04/18/17 9:28:01 PM
#111:


discodancer77 posted...
GiftedACIII posted...
If I don't have a Vita RN should I get it now before it starts being impossible to find or will it become uber cheap?

@GiftedACIII

The vita got cracked a little while ago, so expect prices for it and it's memory cards to keep rising. The cracked firmware is 3.60 if you're curious.


But stores still have it in stock. Guess I'll get a vita within the next month then. Is there a version of Vita that I should look to avoid that gos past 3.6?
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:29:01 PM
#112:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's still YOU who isn't reading buddy. All I added was that vgchartz is a shitty source. Not once did I ignore your other sources, I was simply backing the other user in saying that you used a poor source, which is 100% true. That's it. I never ignored your sources, so you pointing out "before" doesn't change shit when nothing was ignored.

You didn't seem to want to admit that your own source was a poor one, so I pointed out the hypocrisy.

In other words you ignored the other sources. I admitted that VGchartz was unreliable before asking why you ignored my posts; I literally said, and I quote "Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable".

I posted reputable sources after FurryPhilosifer said VGchartz was unreliable. Why did you choose to bring up VGchartz again?

You're drunk, daft, or can't read. I've said multiple times your source wasn't ignored. Now you're just making up shit because you know how dumb your original post in response to me sounded. I've literally said multiple times that my only point was to point out vgchartz. I can't ignore shit when that wasn't my argument to begin with, nor do I think they are fake as I LITERALLY said THEY ARE NOT FAKE several times now. Hopefully this all Caps and bold will help your reading deficiency.

Nowhere before my original post did you admit to vgchartz being a bad source. All you did was dodge that remark by trying to post other sources. It's like you don't even know who said what, or what happened and you're making up shit as you go.

How in the hell is that making stuff up? The first guy criticized VGchartz; fair. Why would I need to admit that VGchartz was bad when I posted multiple other sources which also confirmed that the Vita sold over 10 million? Those sources which you ignored.


So seriously...Just tell me why you felt the need to mention that VGchartz was a bad source when that furry guy mentioned it before you, and I brought in replacement sources, also before you. Because that's what I mean when I say you're ignoring me. Here's a simple example of this conversation went



Do you see how Person C contributes literally nothing to the conversation since Person B already went and proved his point? Person A said that Person B's source was bad, so Person B went and got better sources. Then Person C came along and said the same thing as Person A, adding literally nothing to the conversation. Even when Person B brought in 3 substitutes for the initial source, Person C just chose to focus to dwell on the initial source being bad, ignoring the fact that the issue had been settled by the introduction of the new sites.

It's just your opinion that I didn't contribute anything. The fact of the matter is that all I said was vgchartz was bad, and you went on a pissy fit over nothing. I've said multiple times that the other sources made sense, so that's what I mean by you just making shit up as you go. You've said three times now that I've ignored your sources when I've more than acknowledged them by this point.

The reason I interjected was to point out your hypocrisy, so by that notion my comment was not as irrelevant as you imply. Also means that I DID NOT say the same thing Persona A did. Just admit to your damn mistakes and grow up. Or talk less shit if you can't back it up, so you won't end up making yourself look silly as hell like you did here.
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meestermj
04/18/17 9:30:07 PM
#113:


Did everyone in this topic just forget that the PSPGo existed?
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Spidey5
04/18/17 9:34:59 PM
#114:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's still YOU who isn't reading buddy. All I added was that vgchartz is a shitty source. Not once did I ignore your other sources, I was simply backing the other user in saying that you used a poor source, which is 100% true. That's it. I never ignored your sources, so you pointing out "before" doesn't change shit when nothing was ignored.

You didn't seem to want to admit that your own source was a poor one, so I pointed out the hypocrisy.

In other words you ignored the other sources. I admitted that VGchartz was unreliable before asking why you ignored my posts; I literally said, and I quote "Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable".

I posted reputable sources after FurryPhilosifer said VGchartz was unreliable. Why did you choose to bring up VGchartz again?

You're drunk, daft, or can't read. I've said multiple times your source wasn't ignored. Now you're just making up shit because you know how dumb your original post in response to me sounded. I've literally said multiple times that my only point was to point out vgchartz. I can't ignore shit when that wasn't my argument to begin with, nor do I think they are fake as I LITERALLY said THEY ARE NOT FAKE several times now. Hopefully this all Caps and bold will help your reading deficiency.

Nowhere before my original post did you admit to vgchartz being a bad source. All you did was dodge that remark by trying to post other sources. It's like you don't even know who said what, or what happened and you're making up shit as you go.

How in the hell is that making stuff up? The first guy criticized VGchartz; fair. Why would I need to admit that VGchartz was bad when I posted multiple other sources which also confirmed that the Vita sold over 10 million? Those sources which you ignored.

Let me put it simply. Here's what's going on; I don't know why you're arguing otherwise:
- Initial guy says Vita and Game Gear sold the same amount
- I show him VGchartz
- He says it's a bad source
- I go and get other sources
- You come along and also say VGchartz is bad (DESPITE me bringing up other sources. This is also where you start ignoring me BTW, since there's literally no reason to even mention VGchartz since I brought the 3 other sources as evidence) for whatever reason
- And here we are

So seriously...Just tell me why you felt the need to mention that VGchartz was a bad source when that furry guy mentioned it before you, and I brought in replacement sources, also before you. Because that's what I mean when I say you're ignoring me. Here's a simple example of this conversation went

Person A: Cats and dogs are about equally popular
Person B: According to Catsanddogs.com, cats are more popular
Person A: That site is unreliable
Person B: What about these three reputable sites that say that cats are more popular?
Person C: Catsanddogs.com is unreliable

Do you see how Person C contributes literally nothing to the conversation since Person B already went and proved his point? Person A said that Person B's source was bad, so Person B went and got better sources. Then Person C came along and said the same thing as Person A, adding literally nothing to the conversation. Even when Person B brought in 3 substitutes for the initial source, Person C just chose to focus to dwell on the initial source being bad, ignoring the fact that the issue had been settled by the introduction of the new sites.

It's Terra's thing to drive home mundane points that everyone stopped caring about 50 posts ago for no real purpose. You aren't the first it's happened to bruh.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 9:37:34 PM
#115:


Terra-enforcer posted...
It's just your opinion that I didn't contribute anything. The fact of the matter is that all I said was vgchartz was bad, and you went on a pissy fit over nothing. I've said multiple times that the other sources made sense, so that's what I mean by you just making shit up as you go. You've said three times now that I've ignored your sources when I've more than acknowledged them by this point.

The reason I interjected was to point out your hypocrisy, so by that notion my comment was not as irrelevant as you imply. Also means that I DID NOT say the same thing Persona A did. Just admit to your damn mistakes and grow up. Or talk less shit if you can't back it up, so you won't end up making yourself look silly as hell like you did here.

Exactly. That's all you did. You repeated what furry said, and that contributed literally nothing.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 9:37:55 PM
#116:


Spidey5 posted...
It's Terra's thing to drive home mundane points that everyone stopped caring about 50 posts ago for no real purpose. You aren't the first it's happened to bruh.

Why didn't you tell me earlier :<
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YugiNoob
04/18/17 9:38:31 PM
#117:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Exactly. That's all you did. You repeated what furry said, and that contributed literally nothing.

jfc shut up you two. This is all that needs to be said.
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:39:08 PM
#118:


@Spidey5 posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's still YOU who isn't reading buddy. All I added was that vgchartz is a shitty source. Not once did I ignore your other sources, I was simply backing the other user in saying that you used a poor source, which is 100% true. That's it. I never ignored your sources, so you pointing out "before" doesn't change shit when nothing was ignored.

You didn't seem to want to admit that your own source was a poor one, so I pointed out the hypocrisy.

In other words you ignored the other sources. I admitted that VGchartz was unreliable before asking why you ignored my posts; I literally said, and I quote "Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable".

I posted reputable sources after FurryPhilosifer said VGchartz was unreliable. Why did you choose to bring up VGchartz again?


Nowhere before my original post did you admit to vgchartz being a bad source. All you did was dodge that remark by trying to post other sources. It's like you don't even know who said what, or what happened and you're making up shit as you go.

How in the hell is that making stuff up? The first guy criticized VGchartz; fair. Why would I need to admit that VGchartz was bad when I posted multiple other sources which also confirmed that the Vita sold over 10 million? Those sources which you ignored.

Let me put it simply. Here's what's going on; I don't know why you're arguing otherwise:
- Initial guy says Vita and Game Gear sold the same amount
- I show him VGchartz
- He says it's a bad source
- I go and get other sources
- You come along and also say VGchartz is bad (DESPITE me bringing up other sources. This is also where you start ignoring me BTW, since there's literally no reason to even mention VGchartz since I brought the 3 other sources as evidence) for whatever reason
- And here we are

So seriously...Just tell me why you felt the need to mention that VGchartz was a bad source when that furry guy mentioned it before you, and I brought in replacement sources, also before you. Because that's what I mean when I say you're ignoring me. Here's a simple example of this conversation went

Person A: Cats and dogs are about equally popular
Person B: According to Catsanddogs.com, cats are more popular
Person A: That site is unreliable
Person B: What about these three reputable sites that say that cats are more popular?
Person C: Catsanddogs.com is unreliable

It's Terra's thing to drive home mundane points that everyone stopped caring about 50 posts ago for no real purpose. You aren't the first it's happened to bruh.

Funny that his point was that I added nothing to discussion, when that's just what you're doing. And now you're making shit up as well. What you mean to say is that I bring up a point and someone (generally in the wrong) disagrees with me or something and blows up and creates this large pissy fit over what should be nothing.

If he didn't care, he would have stopped posting so you're also wrong there as well. I called him out on his bs source and pointed out his hypocrisy. You're utterly grasping for straws by calling it "mundane" because you clearly don't even understand the situation.
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:40:59 PM
#119:


@fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
It's just your opinion that I didn't contribute anything. The fact of the matter is that all I said was vgchartz was bad, and you went on a pissy fit over nothing. I've said multiple times that the other sources made sense, so that's what I mean by you just making shit up as you go. You've said three times now that I've ignored your sources when I've more than acknowledged them by this point.

The reason I interjected was to point out your hypocrisy, so by that notion my comment was not as irrelevant as you imply. Also means that I DID NOT say the same thing Persona A did. Just admit to your damn mistakes and grow up. Or talk less shit if you can't back it up, so you won't end up making yourself look silly as hell like you did here.

Exactly. That's all you did. You repeated what furry said, and that contributed literally nothing.

Your reading skills are worse than I thought. Poor thing, get some help. He didn't point out your hypocrisy, I did. Now if your only excuse because you know how silly you sound for continuously not reading and making up shit as you go is to hide behind Spidey who jumped in without knowing what the hell he was talking about either, then have at it.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 9:41:44 PM
#120:


Sorry, I have this bad habit of calling out people who are in the wrong. It's gotten me into trouble quite a bit when I was working in more customer friendly jobs when I was younger.
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Spidey5
04/18/17 9:42:28 PM
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:43:16 PM
#122:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Sorry, I have this bad habit of calling out people who are in the wrong. It's gotten me into trouble quite a bit when I was working in more customer friendly jobs when I was younger.

Well you didn't here. You just continued to post without reading, and you just continued to dodge the fact that you were also in the wrong here as well. It's hypocritical to say he can't man up and admit his mistakes in literally the same post you make a mistake and brush it under the rug.
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:44:17 PM
#123:


Spidey5 posted...
It was getting painful to watch, so I had to say something eheheh.

You still aren't making any sense and seem to be talking from your ass, but kay.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 9:46:32 PM
#124:


Terra-enforcer posted...
Your reading skills are worse than I thought. Poor thing, get some help. He didn't point out your hypocrisy, I did. Now if your only excuse because you know how silly you sound for continuously not reading and making up shit as you go is to hide behind Spidey who jumped in without knowing what the hell he was talking about either, then have at it.

He said

>VGChartz
>accurate

pick one

So I got other sources that were more accurate. Now if you would please, for the love of God just tell me what you thought your post added? I keep saying it added nothing, you keep thinking it added something. Just tell me what's going on in that scrambled mind of yours so we can at least get on the same page.
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:48:11 PM
#125:


>You were wrong

>You posted this:
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Real men can just admit when they're wrong you know.


>I called you a hypocrite and that was literally it

Not sure if you're just trolling at this point or...
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 9:52:57 PM
#126:


Seriously, just tell me what your post added? My response of posting substitutions and saying it was bad was in response to furry. You added nothing.
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 9:57:15 PM
#127:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Seriously, just tell me what your post added? My response of posting substitutions and saying it was bad was in response to furry. You added nothing.

Yeah, I hope you're seriously just trolling at this point. Because you're somehow making less sense from before. You went from not even knowing what you were posting, to grasping for straws, to now seemingly grasping for even further straws since you now know that almost none of your responses made any sense whatsoever. This is pretty sad honestly.

You already proved before you had poor reading comprehension skills, but if you can't even read that, I don't know what to tell you.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 10:05:24 PM
#128:


Yeah, sorry, I never troll. You know what? This is going nowhere fast.

The same thing is just going back and forth. Neither side is ever going to come to an agreement, so I say we just let bygones be bygones and end this here and now, since we're basically the only ones posting here.
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FurryPhilosifer
04/18/17 10:35:20 PM
#129:


I think what happened here is bunny's "you can admit you're wrong" comment was about the my sales number comment being wrong, which it was. I think Terra is pointing out that I wasn't wrong about vgcharts being inaccurate. So what's the problem?
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 10:55:10 PM
#130:


FurryPhilosifer posted...
I think what happened here is bunny's "you can admit you're wrong" comment was about the my sales number comment being wrong, which it was. I think Terra is pointing out that I wasn't wrong about vgcharts being inaccurate. So what's the problem?

Dunno. I think he misinterpreted what was even being said by who initially, then instead of admitting to it he just backtracked and went with the "you didn't add anything to discussion" excuse as a result.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 11:05:38 PM
#131:


FurryPhilosifer posted...
I think what happened here is bunny's "you can admit you're wrong" comment was about the my sales number comment being wrong, which it was. I think Terra is pointing out that I wasn't wrong about vgcharts being inaccurate. So what's the problem?

Well it started with the number game; I posted the VGchartz sales to prove that the Vita sold more than the Game Gear. When you mentioned that VGchartz was bad, I brought up those other 3 sites. Then Terra once again brought up that VGchartz was bad. And then it brought us to where we are now.

I felt that there was no point in even mentioning VGchartz, as multiple other sources have been brought up to confirm the data, and that his mentioning of it again was redundant and irrelevant to the point at hand, which was Vita vs. GG sales.
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Terra-enforcer
04/18/17 11:19:53 PM
#132:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Then Terra once again brought up that VGchartz was bad. And then it brought us to where we are now.

Again, that isn't all I did, no.

And by that merit, you may as well go around every topic telling people "useless comment" since you could probably grasp for reasons as to why >90% of the posts here "don't add anything." My comment at least did indeed add something. Reiterated what TC said and pointed out a contradiction, something that he did not do.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/18/17 11:33:12 PM
#133:


The thing is that people tend to state their own opinions, rather than just reword what previous posters said. If everyone just copied what someone before them said, then yes, anyone could go around saying "useless comment".

What I'm trying to say is that your post had literally no impact to our discussion.

But please, PLEASE respond to this part...Let me remind you what was going on. We were discussing the sale comparison between the Vita and GG. I brought up that VGchartz said the Vita outsold the GG. Furry said VGchartz was a bad source for my counter argument. So I found sources other than VGchartz to support my side. So please tell me what your calling me a hypocrite and mimicking Furry's VGchartz statement did to add to the debate.

I mentioned VGchartz. You said VGchartz was wrong, after Furry mentioned that fact. That added nothing to our conversation of sales numbers between the two systems. Then now you mention you also called me a hypocrite, which once again, adds literally nothing to our conversation of sales.
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monkeysRfunny
04/18/17 11:36:48 PM
#134:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
The thing is that people tend to state their own opinions, rather than just reword what previous posters said. If everyone just copied what someone before them said, then yes, anyone could go around saying "useless comment".

What I'm trying to say is that your post had literally no impact to our discussion.

But please, PLEASE respond to this part...Let me remind you what was going on. We were discussing the sale comparison between the Vita and GG. I brought up that VGchartz said the Vita outsold the GG. Furry said VGchartz was a bad source for my counter argument. So I found sources other than VGchartz to support my side. So please tell me what your calling me a hypocrite and mimicking Furry's VGchartz statement did to add to the debate.

I mentioned VGchartz. You said VGchartz was wrong, after Furry mentioned that fact. That added nothing to our conversation of sales numbers between the two systems. Then now you mention you also called me a hypocrite, which once again, adds literally nothing to our conversation of sales.

I think he believes that him calling you a hypocrite adds something, even though it has nothing to do with the actual topic.
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Terra-enforcer
04/19/17 6:28:23 AM
#135:


monkeysRfunny posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
The thing is that people tend to state their own opinions, rather than just reword what previous posters said. If everyone just copied what someone before them said, then yes, anyone could go around saying "useless comment".

What I'm trying to say is that your post had literally no impact to our discussion.

But please, PLEASE respond to this part...Let me remind you what was going on. We were discussing the sale comparison between the Vita and GG. I brought up that VGchartz said the Vita outsold the GG. Furry said VGchartz was a bad source for my counter argument. So I found sources other than VGchartz to support my side. So please tell me what your calling me a hypocrite and mimicking Furry's VGchartz statement did to add to the debate.

I mentioned VGchartz. You said VGchartz was wrong, after Furry mentioned that fact. That added nothing to our conversation of sales numbers between the two systems. Then now you mention you also called me a hypocrite, which once again, adds literally nothing to our conversation of sales.

I think he believes that him calling you a hypocrite adds something, even though it has nothing to do with the actual topic.

Again, by that merit, posts like this add a lot less.

The topic is Vita, he used a Vita source, and I pointed out the legitimacy of it in addition to how he berated another user for doing the very same thing he did. That's literally as on topic as you can get. It's like you people want to make something big out of nothing. This whole situation is incredibly absurd.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/19/17 6:44:18 AM
#136:


Terra-enforcer posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
The thing is that people tend to state their own opinions, rather than just reword what previous posters said. If everyone just copied what someone before them said, then yes, anyone could go around saying "useless comment".

What I'm trying to say is that your post had literally no impact to our discussion.

But please, PLEASE respond to this part...Let me remind you what was going on. We were discussing the sale comparison between the Vita and GG. I brought up that VGchartz said the Vita outsold the GG. Furry said VGchartz was a bad source for my counter argument. So I found sources other than VGchartz to support my side. So please tell me what your calling me a hypocrite and mimicking Furry's VGchartz statement did to add to the debate.

I mentioned VGchartz. You said VGchartz was wrong, after Furry mentioned that fact. That added nothing to our conversation of sales numbers between the two systems. Then now you mention you also called me a hypocrite, which once again, adds literally nothing to our conversation of sales.

I think he believes that him calling you a hypocrite adds something, even though it has nothing to do with the actual topic.

Again, by that merit, posts like this add a lot less.

The topic is Vita, he used a Vita source, and I pointed out the legitimacy of it in addition to how he berated another user for doing the very same thing he did. That's literally as on topic as you can get. It's like you people want to make something big out of nothing. This whole situation is incredibly absurd.

EXACTLY. Can't you see my point now? While I see where monkey was coming from, his post didn't add to the conversation. He wasn't wrong for posting it since it was his opinion on the matter, but it didn't add anything.

In our case, the topic was Vita SALES. When one source was deemed unreliable regarding the SALES, I brought out three that were. Why are you still ignoring the fact that what you said had literally nothing to do with SALES. You simply repeated what Furry said about VGchartz being unreliable, which meant literally nothing, since I had already posted several other reputable sources.
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monkeysRfunny
04/19/17 7:50:06 AM
#137:


Terra-enforcer posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
The thing is that people tend to state their own opinions, rather than just reword what previous posters said. If everyone just copied what someone before them said, then yes, anyone could go around saying "useless comment".

What I'm trying to say is that your post had literally no impact to our discussion.

But please, PLEASE respond to this part...Let me remind you what was going on. We were discussing the sale comparison between the Vita and GG. I brought up that VGchartz said the Vita outsold the GG. Furry said VGchartz was a bad source for my counter argument. So I found sources other than VGchartz to support my side. So please tell me what your calling me a hypocrite and mimicking Furry's VGchartz statement did to add to the debate.

I mentioned VGchartz. You said VGchartz was wrong, after Furry mentioned that fact. That added nothing to our conversation of sales numbers between the two systems. Then now you mention you also called me a hypocrite, which once again, adds literally nothing to our conversation of sales.

I think he believes that him calling you a hypocrite adds something, even though it has nothing to do with the actual topic.

Again, by that merit, posts like this add a lot less.

The topic is Vita, he used a Vita source, and I pointed out the legitimacy of it in addition to how he berated another user for doing the very same thing he did. That's literally as on topic as you can get. It's like you people want to make something big out of nothing. This whole situation is incredibly absurd.

I was just mentioning why I thought you guys were having this little spat. It wasn't exactly meant to add anything lol.

But let me delve deeper and actually add some substance this time. This topic is indeed Vita-related, as it's asking if it's the saddest system of all time. Since TC was mentioning sales as a measuring stick for that, he brought up the Vita/Game Gear comparison, and bunny brought up numbers from vgchartz. As that was criticized, he brought in other sources to back up his claim that the Vita sold more. And then Terra came in to once again criticize vgchartz. So assuming I get that little wabbit's logic, that's what he's been going for but never getting an answer to: why Terra felt the need to mention vgchartz's validity after it had been taken out of consideration as evidence for sales numbers
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ArchiePeck
04/19/17 7:51:23 AM
#138:


It's got one of the best modern RPG libraries of any console.
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joe_stalin518
04/19/17 8:05:03 AM
#139:


Anyone say jaguar yet?
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Terra-enforcer
04/19/17 8:10:53 AM
#140:


monkeysRfunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
The thing is that people tend to state their own opinions, rather than just reword what previous posters said. If everyone just copied what someone before them said, then yes, anyone could go around saying "useless comment".

What I'm trying to say is that your post had literally no impact to our discussion.

But please, PLEASE respond to this part...Let me remind you what was going on. We were discussing the sale comparison between the Vita and GG. I brought up that VGchartz said the Vita outsold the GG. Furry said VGchartz was a bad source for my counter argument. So I found sources other than VGchartz to support my side. So please tell me what your calling me a hypocrite and mimicking Furry's VGchartz statement did to add to the debate.

I mentioned VGchartz. You said VGchartz was wrong, after Furry mentioned that fact. That added nothing to our conversation of sales numbers between the two systems. Then now you mention you also called me a hypocrite, which once again, adds literally nothing to our conversation of sales.

I think he believes that him calling you a hypocrite adds something, even though it has nothing to do with the actual topic.

Again, by that merit, posts like this add a lot less.


I was just mentioning why I thought you guys were having this little spat. It wasn't exactly meant to add anything lol.

But let me delve deeper and actually add some substance this time. This topic is indeed Vita-related, as it's asking if it's the saddest system of all time. Since TC was mentioning sales as a measuring stick for that, he brought up the Vita/Game Gear comparison, and bunny brought up numbers from vgchartz. As that was criticized, he brought in other sources to back up his claim that the Vita sold more. And then Terra came in to once again criticize vgchartz. So assuming I get that little wabbit's logic, that's what he's been going for but never getting an answer to: why Terra felt the need to mention vgchartz's validity after it had been taken out of consideration as evidence for sales numbers

Apparently you didn't read, because I already explained why multiple times. Fuzzy called TC out for "not admitting to his mistakes" or whatever which is EXACTLY the same thing fuzzy did as well. I called out the blatant hypocrisy while supporting TC's position. That's the same answer that has been regurgitated probably a dozen times now, so that just says that you jumped into a dispute without even knowing the full argument which is pretty dumb.

And you explaining your post still doesn't make it less relevant than my post. If my post is supposedly "off topic" or whatever, you added that much less to discussion with your pointless post. But that's just going by your logic, which I won't do as that whole notion is incredibly stupid anyway. Again, you must not understand the utility of a forum whatsoever. If anything, supporting someone's point (in addition to adding my own point) is one of the main functions of a forum outside of the general Q&A.

Like I said before, this situation has gotten to stupid levels of idiocy since apparently the utility of a forum is something you and fuzzy cannot grasp. Even if my post were "off topic" (which it wasn't) I don't see you fear mongering and policing this entire board saying "OFF TOPIC" ever other post. There's a reason people don't do that. It's ridiculously absurd, and stupid considering this is a FORUM.
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monkeysRfunny
04/19/17 8:17:39 AM
#141:


Terra-enforcer posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...
monkeysRfunny posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
The thing is that people tend to state their own opinions, rather than just reword what previous posters said. If everyone just copied what someone before them said, then yes, anyone could go around saying "useless comment".

What I'm trying to say is that your post had literally no impact to our discussion.

But please, PLEASE respond to this part...Let me remind you what was going on. We were discussing the sale comparison between the Vita and GG. I brought up that VGchartz said the Vita outsold the GG. Furry said VGchartz was a bad source for my counter argument. So I found sources other than VGchartz to support my side. So please tell me what your calling me a hypocrite and mimicking Furry's VGchartz statement did to add to the debate.

I mentioned VGchartz. You said VGchartz was wrong, after Furry mentioned that fact. That added nothing to our conversation of sales numbers between the two systems. Then now you mention you also called me a hypocrite, which once again, adds literally nothing to our conversation of sales.

I think he believes that him calling you a hypocrite adds something, even though it has nothing to do with the actual topic.

Again, by that merit, posts like this add a lot less.

The topic is Vita, he used a Vita source, and I pointed out the legitimacy of it in addition to how he berated another user for doing the very same thing he did. That's literally as on topic as you can get. It's like you people want to make something big out of nothing. This whole situation is incredibly absurd.

I was just mentioning why I thought you guys were having this little spat. It wasn't exactly meant to add anything lol.

But let me delve deeper and actually add some substance this time. This topic is indeed Vita-related, as it's asking if it's the saddest system of all time. Since TC was mentioning sales as a measuring stick for that, he brought up the Vita/Game Gear comparison, and bunny brought up numbers from vgchartz. As that was criticized, he brought in other sources to back up his claim that the Vita sold more. And then Terra came in to once again criticize vgchartz. So assuming I get that little wabbit's logic, that's what he's been going for but never getting an answer to: why Terra felt the need to mention vgchartz's validity after it had been taken out of consideration as evidence for sales numbers

Apparently you didn't read, because I already explained why multiple times. Fuzzy called TC out for "not admitting to his mistakes" or whatever which is EXACTLY what he did. That's the same answer that has been regurgitated probably a dozen times now, so that just says that you jumped into a dispute without even knowing the full argument which is pretty dumb.

And you explaining your post still doesn't make it less relevant than my post. If my post is supposedly "off topic" or whatever, you added that much less to discussion with your pointless post.

Nah, I went back a page to look at how this little tiff started. It was near the end of the second page, when Fuzzy brought up those numbers (which are what the entire topic is about, I might add). And he admitted vgchartz was bad literally two posts later, so I think that shows how bad your comprehension is.

The whole problem here is that Fuzzy seems focused on the topic and doesn't give a rat's ass about your petty squabble, while you just want to call him out for using a bad source, while at the same time ignoring the fact that he brought several others.
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Terra-enforcer
04/19/17 8:18:39 AM
#142:


monkeysRfunny posted...
Nah, I went back a page to look at how this little tiff started. It was near the end of the second page, when Fuzzy brought up those numbers (which are what the entire topic is about, I might add). And he admitted vgchartz was bad literally two posts later, so I think that shows how bad your comprehension is.

The whole problem here is that Fuzzy seems focused on the topic and doesn't give a rat's ass about your petty squabble, while you just want to call him out for using a bad source, while at the same time ignoring the fact that he brought several others.

Terra-enforcer posted...
you explaining your post still doesn't make it less relevant than my post. If my post is supposedly "off topic" or whatever, you added that much less to discussion with your pointless post. But that's just going by your logic, which I won't do as that whole notion is incredibly stupid anyway. Again, you must not understand the utility of a forum whatsoever. If anything, supporting someone's point (in addition to adding my own point) is one of the main functions of a forum outside of the general Q&A.

Like I said before, this situation has gotten to stupid levels of idiocy since apparently the utility of a forum is something you and fuzzy cannot grasp. Even if my post were "off topic" (which it wasn't) I don't see you fear mongering and policing this entire board saying "OFF TOPIC" ever other post. There's a reason people don't do that. It's ridiculously absurd, and stupid considering this is a FORUM.

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Terra-enforcer
04/19/17 8:20:45 AM
#143:


Also @monkeysRfunny you're the one making shit up now. Quote the post you're referring to, because I just went back to check, and NOWHERE does he admit that vgchartz is bs between the time he called TC for "not admiting his faults" or whatever and my post.

>Post #89: Fuzzy's initial post of contention

>Post #96: Fuzzy calls out TC

>Post #97: I call out Fuzzy

So he didn't even have time to do whatever the hell you're lying about right now.


Also, congrats. By calling out someone who was on topic, you yourself are now very much off topic. What was your goal again? Because you look pretty dumb now if your goal was to stop others from being off topic as you're now being even more off topic yourself.
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NihilistTurian
04/19/17 8:20:49 AM
#144:


Say what you will, but the Vita is still a better system than the Wii U.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/19/17 8:27:28 AM
#145:


Let's break this down paragraph by paragraph...

Terra-enforcer posted...
Apparently you didn't read, because I already explained why multiple times. Fuzzy called TC out for "not admitting to his mistakes" or whatever which is EXACTLY the same thing fuzzy did as well. I called out the blatant hypocrisy while supporting TC's position. That's the same answer that has been regurgitated probably a dozen times now, so that just says that you jumped into a dispute without even knowing the full argument which is pretty dumb.

For the last time: What does this have to do with Vita sales? You keep saying it's somehow relevant and on-topic.

And you explaining your post still doesn't make it less relevant than my post. If my post is supposedly "off topic" or whatever, you added that much less to discussion with your pointless post. But that's just going by your logic, which I won't do as that whole notion is incredibly stupid anyway. Again, you must not understand the utility of a forum whatsoever. If anything, supporting someone's point (in addition to adding my own point) is one of the main functions of a forum outside of the general Q&A.

Off topic shit doesn't matter. I don't care who posts what. But what I've been trying to say for so long is simply that your copying TC's point added nothing. I said stuff like that is fine; that it's your opinion. But you keep insisting that there's some relevance for it.

Like I said before, this situation has gotten to stupid levels of idiocy since apparently the utility of a forum is something you and fuzzy cannot grasp. Even if my post were "off topic" (which it wasn't) I don't see you fear mongering and policing this entire board saying "OFF TOPIC" ever other post. There's a reason people don't do that. It's ridiculously absurd,

How in the fuck is he policing? He got it pretty much 100% correct. I've continuously asked how you think repeating Furry's post is adding anything when the issue had been resolved.
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monkeysRfunny
04/19/17 8:31:42 AM
#146:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Ok, so even though VGchartz isn't reliable, why did you ignore my other references before then?

Terra-enforcer posted...
Also @monkeysRfunny you're the one making shit up now. Quote the post you're referring to, because I just went back to check, and NOWHERE does he admit that vgchartz is bs between the time he called TC for "not admiting his faults" or whatever and my post.

>Post #89: Fuzzy's initial post of contention

>Post #96: Fuzzy calls out TC

>Post #97: I call out Fuzzy

So he didn't even have time to do whatever the hell you're lying about right now.


Also, congrats. By calling out someone who was on topic, you yourself are now very much off topic. What was your goal again? Because you look pretty dumb now if your goal was to stop others from being off topic as you're now being even more off topic yourself.

When did I say he said that before you posted? My goal is simple though. To stop the idiocy in this topic. At first I tried to stay neutral, but your ignorance is making that difficult.

P.S.
Why would you even expect him to admit that he's wrong when you yourself said "he didn't have time to do whatever the hell you're lying about now"? He clearly admitted his mistake in using vgchartz.
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fuzzylittlbunny
04/19/17 8:59:00 AM
#147:


You really don't need to try to stop the idiocy here. He's been ignoring my posts; what makes you think he'll listen to yours? I mean I made it as simple as I could and gave him examples, but he just deflected.
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weapon_d00d816
04/19/17 9:27:27 AM
#148:


Rika_Furude posted...
Nah, the entire xbox line

I hope you realize that's an irrational fanboy opinion because mathematically you are very wrong.
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GiftedACIII
04/19/17 9:33:02 AM
#151:


weapon_d00d816 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
Nah, the entire xbox line

I hope you realize that's an irrational fanboy opinion because mathematically you are very wrong.


That doesn't stop you from shitposting on things you were objectively wrong and ignorant about either. Are you admitting you're an irrational fanboy?
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Melonfarms
04/19/17 9:35:05 AM
#152:


There is a whole lot of TL;DR in here but I just wanted to say that the Vita is a good handheld.

It has some fun games and if you're a JRPG fan there is a lot to like.

I haven't been playing mine much recently because my opportunity to play games happens at home and I would rather play my PS4.
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