Current Events > Hillary Clinton LITERALLY considered using "it's her turn" as a slogan

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Rob Cesternino
04/22/17 5:17:23 PM
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-on-the-new-book-that-brutalizes-the-clinton-campaign-w477978

There is a critical scene in Shattered, the new behind-the-scenes campaign diary by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes, in which staffers in the Hillary Clinton campaign begin to bicker with one another.

At the end of Chapter One, which is entirely about that campaign's exhausting and fruitless search for a plausible explanation for why Hillary was running, writers Allen and Parnes talk about the infighting problem.

"All of the jockeying might have been all right, but for a root problem that confounded everyone on the campaign and outside it," they wrote. "Hillary had been running for president for almost a decade and still didn't really have a rationale."

Allen and Parnes here quoted a Clinton aide who jokingly summed up Clinton's real motivation:

"I would have had a reason for running," one of her top aides said, "or I wouldn't have run."

The beleaguered Clinton staff spent the better part of two years trying to roll this insane tautology – "I have a reason for running because no one runs without a reason" – into the White House. It was a Beltway take on the classic Descartes formulation: "I seek re-election, therefore I am... seeking re-election."

Shattered is sourced almost entirely to figures inside the Clinton campaign who were and are deeply loyal to Clinton. Yet those sources tell of a campaign that spent nearly two years paralyzed by simple existential questions: Why are we running? What do we stand for?...

...In the Clinton run, that problem became such a millstone around the neck of the campaign that staffers began to flirt with the idea of sharing the uninspiring truth with voters. Stumped for months by how to explain why their candidate wanted to be president, Clinton staffers began toying with the idea of seeing how "Because it's her turn" might fly as a public rallying cry.

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darkprince45
04/22/17 5:18:37 PM
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If there's one thing I saw from Clinton and a lot of her supporters is that they're entitled af
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The Admiral
04/22/17 5:23:39 PM
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@ASithLord7

Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.
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TheVipaGTS
04/22/17 5:24:28 PM
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"Hillary Clinton ran a terrible campaign with terrible ideas...more at 11"
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rookieplayer03
04/22/17 5:28:15 PM
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I know a couple people who said she deserved to be president.
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Evolician
04/22/17 5:33:50 PM
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I thought that was her slogan. I could swear I heard and saw it all over the place.
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SomeLikeItHoth
04/22/17 5:38:40 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?
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Key
04/22/17 5:39:06 PM
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The only reason she even beat Bernie is because Democrats felt it was her turn.
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JE19426
04/22/17 5:42:51 PM
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Hey OP your source doesn't support the claim you made in the title.
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The Admiral
04/22/17 5:57:41 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?


"Keep Moving Forward"
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AlisLandale
04/22/17 5:58:25 PM
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"If you'd like to know our Campaign Slogan, sign up for my Email newsletter"

Would have shown she has a sense of humor >~>
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Psycho_Poodle
04/22/17 5:58:49 PM
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"waaah benghazi and emails waaaahh"

Hillary would've been a great president, but you crybabies just couldn't let that happen could you
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Iodine
04/22/17 5:59:59 PM
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Psycho_Poodle posted...
"waaah benghazi and emails waaaahh"

Hillary would've been a great president, but you crybabies just couldn't let that happen could you

She should have ran a better campaign and the DNC should have done more to challenge voter suppression.
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Blackstar110
04/22/17 6:01:54 PM
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The Admiral posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?


"Keep Moving Forward"

That's fairly basic and elementary, and yet still would've been 10000x better than "I'm With Her," which was incredibly alienating and made it all about Hillary/her diehards as opposed to about the movement, the people, or the country.

This was the most well-executed campaign art of the season for that exact reason:

https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/US-2-1.jpg
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ASithLord7
04/22/17 6:23:37 PM
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The Admiral posted...
@ASithLord7

Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

No, I said it was never a slogan, since so many mouthbreathers seem to think it was. "Some staffers toyed with the idea" =/= "it was an official campaign slogan."
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Wolf_J_Flywheel
04/22/17 6:33:41 PM
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Well that was her only reason for wanting to be president. She thought it was owed to her. She could never give an answer to "why are you running?". At least Trump had "make America great again".
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ASithLord7
04/22/17 6:51:37 PM
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Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Well that was her only reason for wanting to be president. She thought it was owed to her. She could never give an answer to "why are you running?". At least Trump had "make America great again".

Wrong.
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Microwaved_Eggs
04/23/17 10:52:25 PM
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ManSpread
04/23/17 10:56:23 PM
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Hash-Brown
04/23/17 10:56:52 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
@ASithLord7

Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

No, I said it was never a slogan, since so many mouthbreathers seem to think it was. "Some staffers toyed with the idea" =/= "it was an official campaign slogan."

Never a slogan but so many of her supporters loved to use it.
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Chicken
04/23/17 10:58:39 PM
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pokemon GO TO THE POLLS
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ASithLord7
04/23/17 10:59:04 PM
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Hash-Brown posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
@ASithLord7

Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

No, I said it was never a slogan, since so many mouthbreathers seem to think it was. "Some staffers toyed with the idea" =/= "it was an official campaign slogan."

Never a slogan but so many of her supporters loved to use it.

99% of the time I ever saw it used was Trumpeteers using it mockingly because they thought it was a thing rather than people using it unironically.
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Gafemage
04/23/17 10:59:12 PM
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Maeiv
04/23/17 11:01:46 PM
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Clinton had more than 2x the campaign finances than Trump and still lost.
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TheFuzz3451
04/23/17 11:08:48 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
"Hillary Clinton ran a terrible campaign with terrible ideas...more at 11"


Eh, I have to admit I am a bit curious on the details.
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cawmaster5
04/23/17 11:09:08 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Wolf_J_Flywheel posted...
Well that was her only reason for wanting to be president. She thought it was owed to her. She could never give an answer to "why are you running?". At least Trump had "make America great again".

Wrong.


lol that's definitely the reason. still salty she lost to barry all those years ago
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unclekoolaid73
04/23/17 11:12:32 PM
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ChrisHansen59
04/23/17 11:13:32 PM
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meme magic was almost real
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Hash-Brown
04/23/17 11:13:44 PM
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ASithLord7 posted...
Hash-Brown posted...
ASithLord7 posted...
The Admiral posted...
@ASithLord7

Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

No, I said it was never a slogan, since so many mouthbreathers seem to think it was. "Some staffers toyed with the idea" =/= "it was an official campaign slogan."

Never a slogan but so many of her supporters loved to use it.

99% of the time I ever saw it used was Trumpeteers using it mockingly because they thought it was a thing rather than people using it unironically.

Sure.
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TheFuzz3451
04/23/17 11:21:41 PM
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In May of 2015, as Hillary was planning her first major TV interview – an address the campaign hoped would put to rest criticism Hillary was avoiding the press over the burgeoning email scandal – communications chief Jennifer Palmieri asked Huma Abedin to ask Hillary who she wanted to conduct the interview. (There are a lot of these games of "telephone" in the book, as only a tiny group of people had access to the increasingly secretive candidate.)

The answer that came back was that Hillary wanted to do the interview with "Brianna." Palmieri took this to mean CNN's Brianna Keilar, and worked to set up the interview, which aired on July 7th of that year.

Unfortunately, Keilar was not particularly gentle in her conduct of the interview. Among other things, she asked Hillary questions like, "Would you vote for someone you didn't trust?" An aide describes Hillary as "staring daggers" at Keilar. Internally, the interview was viewed as a disaster.

It turns out now it was all a mistake. Hillary had not wanted Brianna Keilar as an interviewer, but Bianna Golodryga of Yahoo! News, an excellent interviewer in her own right, but also one who happens to be the spouse of longtime Clinton administration aide Peter Orszag.


Dear god that's straight out of a sitcom, if it's true
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Antifar
04/23/17 11:26:11 PM
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TheFuzz3451 posted...
Dear god that's straight out of a sitcom, if it's true

Veep, not House of Cards or the West Wing, is the most accurate show about politics.
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Esrac
04/23/17 11:28:27 PM
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Blackstar110 posted...
The Admiral posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?


"Keep Moving Forward"

That's fairly basic and elementary, and yet still would've been 10000x better than "I'm With Her," which was incredibly alienating and made it all about Hillary/her diehards as opposed to about the movement, the people, or the country.

This was the most well-executed campaign art of the season for that exact reason:

https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/US-2-1.jpg


Basic and elementary isn't exactly a negative when it comes to campaign slogans. Make America Great Again is very simple, but also very effective.
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Doom_Art
04/23/17 11:29:08 PM
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Reading Shattered right now.

Fucking interesting as hell
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weapon_d00d816
04/23/17 11:29:46 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?

"We're not Trump"
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Antifar
04/23/17 11:44:02 PM
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Keep moving forward would have been a perfectly fine line.
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Cartwheel_Kick
04/23/17 11:48:17 PM
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It will be funny, yet sad when she finally ends in a mental asylum.
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I Like Toast
04/23/17 11:48:40 PM
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SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?


"I'm not a cheetoh, also hello Wisconsin"
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ASithLord7
04/23/17 11:52:30 PM
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Cartwheel_Kick posted...
It will be funny, yet sad when she finally ends in a mental asylum.

Durr
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scoobydoobydont
04/23/17 11:53:18 PM
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Ving_Rhames
04/23/17 11:57:55 PM
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Imagine still talking about that irrelevant snob in 2017

Just Trumpette things I guess
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Steve Nick
04/24/17 12:03:00 AM
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Blackstar110 posted...
The Admiral posted...

That's fairly basic and elementary, and yet still would've been 10000x better than "I'm With Her," which was incredibly alienating and made it all about Hillary/her diehards as opposed to about the movement, the people, or the country.

This was the most well-executed campaign art of the season for that exact reason:

https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/US-2-1.jpg

Blackstar110 posted...
The Admiral posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?


"Keep Moving Forward"

That's fairly basic and elementary, and yet still would've been 10000x better than "I'm With Her," which was incredibly alienating and made it all about Hillary/her diehards as opposed to about the movement, the people, or the country.

This was the most well-executed campaign art of the season for that exact reason:

https://berniesanders.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/US-2-1.jpg


The slogan wasn't the most important part of the equation.. What mattered there is that people -believed- Bernie when he said that.
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masterpug53
04/24/17 12:20:39 AM
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Cartwheel_Kick posted...
It will be funny, yet sad when she finally ends in a mental asylum.


And even funnier yet sadder when she still insists on running for president while committed.
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The Admiral
04/24/17 12:23:49 AM
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The Admiral posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?


"Keep Moving Forward"


*Keep America Moving Forward

Would have been the perfect counter to MAGA
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Microwaved_Eggs
04/24/17 12:25:52 AM
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The Admiral posted...
The Admiral posted...
SomeLikeItHoth posted...
The Admiral posted...
Where's Rebel? He claims the Hillary campaign never wanted to use this slogan.

Admiral, if you were in charge of the Clinton campaign, what slogan would you have coined?


"Keep Moving Forward"


*Keep America Moving Forward

Would have been the perfect counter to MAGA

whoa thats actually a really good idea
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Hash-Brown
04/24/17 12:30:06 AM
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masterpug53 posted...
Cartwheel_Kick posted...
It will be funny, yet sad when she finally ends in a mental asylum.


And even funnier yet sadder when she still insists on running for president while committed.

She would pick Nurse Ratched as the Surgeon General.
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AdmiralZephyr
04/24/17 12:30:27 AM
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How are you enjoying this season?
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