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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:28:28 PM
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Do you believe smoking marijuana caused his lungs to shut down?


The teen fell ill after smoking marijuana with a friend. Within a few days, he was on death's door and was denied a lung transplant because marijuana was found in his system. The family was searching for other hospitals, and University of Pennsylvania agreed to accept him, however, he died after surgery due to complications.

"He ate a big meal with his family at his sister Summer’s house in Salt Lake City, then went to hang out with the same old friend he saw every Thanksgiving. Riley smoked some weed, something he rarely did.

On Black Friday, Riley told his father, Mark, that he wasn’t feeling well, so he spent the weekend resting and watching movies.

By Friday, still sick and feeling worse, Riley returned to the clinic, had a lung X-ray, and was told he had pneumonia. That night, as Riley struggled to breathe, his father rushed him to the hospital. Within days, he was on life support at the University of Utah Hospital, machines doing the jobs his sickened organs could no longer handle."


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4441666/Teen-denied-life-saving-double-lung-transplant-dies.html

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alysonmartin/smoking-pot-can-get-you-kicked-off-transplant-lists-even-in?utm_term=.rvn76vPJ1J#.hdVX67V1A1

http://www.sltrib.com/news/5209429-155/park-city-man-u-hospital-denied
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Mernardi
04/24/17 8:29:25 PM
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Shouldn't have injected the marijuanas smh.
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Borgnar
04/24/17 8:29:35 PM
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the drug is evolving, used to only take 2 whole marijuanas to kill you
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FroMan
04/24/17 8:32:11 PM
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Smoking weed does weaken and suppress your immune system. So its not unlikely that it played a factor in him contracting pneumonia.
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
04/24/17 8:33:00 PM
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WTF marijuana is getting way too fucking potent. I knew guys that could smoke the shit all day and the only thing they got was the munchies, now you take a hit of marijuana and you get fucking pneumonia.
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Leanaunfurled
04/24/17 8:37:09 PM
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I like how TC completely twists the title.
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:38:18 PM
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I have a feeling if he didn't smoke it, he wouldn't have fallen ill. I think it's too much of a coincidence.
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sktgamer_13dude
04/24/17 8:38:37 PM
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:40:07 PM
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Leanaunfurled posted...
I like how TC completely twists the title.


How did I twist it? I'd say it's an accurate description of events. Whether or not it's a contributing factor to his death-- we don't know. That's why there's a poll.
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
04/24/17 8:40:27 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

Can't you read?? It's obvious that the marijuana was laced with pneumonia.
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voldothegr8
04/24/17 8:42:06 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

No he already had a life threatening illness. The title is so twisted it's borderline trolling.
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Laserion
04/24/17 8:43:11 PM
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What if he ate brownies instead of smoking it? Would they have still rejected his transplant? Would he still have gotten ill?
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sktgamer_13dude
04/24/17 8:44:03 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

No he already had a life threatening illness. The title is so twisted it's borderline trolling.

Seems like he smoked a little weed, which apparently he did before, got sick with something super severe, and a couple hospitals were dicks because "trace weed!!!" (I mean it was Utah), and the kid died after surgery.

So TC is shitposting. Got it.
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:45:29 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

No he already had a life threatening illness. The title is so twisted it's borderline trolling.


Really? The articles indicate he became sick after smoking marijuana. They don't indicate he was already sick.

His lungs collapsed. I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend smoking something into your lungs didn't contribute to lungs collapsing. Smoking anything isn't healthy. Smoke doesn't belong in the lungs.
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:47:17 PM
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Laserion posted...
What if he ate brownies instead of smoking it? Would they have still rejected his transplant? Would he still have gotten ill?


I'm assuming so, since THC would still be in his system. I'm assuming he probably wouldn't have had his lungs collapse if he ate brownies instead.
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sktgamer_13dude
04/24/17 8:47:39 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

No he already had a life threatening illness. The title is so twisted it's borderline trolling.


Really? The articles indicate he became sick after smoking marijuana. They don't indicate he was already sick.

His lungs collapsed. I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend smoking something into your lungs didn't contribute to lungs collapsing. Smoking anything isn't healthy. Smoke doesn't belong in the lungs.

And millions smoke marijuana every day and don't have their lungs collapse.

It's like this rarely happens or something rofl
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DirkDiggles
04/24/17 8:48:16 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
His lungs collapsed. I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend smoking something into your lungs didn't contribute to lungs collapsing. Smoking anything isn't healthy. Smoke doesn't belong in the lungs.


I don't think you know what pneumonia is....

He didn't get it because he smoked weed.
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voldothegr8
04/24/17 8:49:07 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

No he already had a life threatening illness. The title is so twisted it's borderline trolling.

Seems like he smoked a little weed, which apparently he did before, got sick with something super severe, and a couple hospitals were dicks because "trace weed!!!" (I mean it was Utah), and the kid died after surgery.

So TC is shitposting. Got it.

He was already on a transplant list for new lungs, smoked weed, denied new lungs because TCH, another hospital did the transplant, he died anyway.

I don't get denying him in the first place though, he's getting new lungs anyway so who the fuck cares what happens to his old ones?
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:49:13 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Capn Circus posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

No he already had a life threatening illness. The title is so twisted it's borderline trolling.


Really? The articles indicate he became sick after smoking marijuana. They don't indicate he was already sick.

His lungs collapsed. I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend smoking something into your lungs didn't contribute to lungs collapsing. Smoking anything isn't healthy. Smoke doesn't belong in the lungs.

And millions smoke marijuana every day and don't have their lungs collapse.

It's like this rarely happens or something rofl


I know. Take the topic for what it's worth. If you truly don't believe him inhaling smoke into his lungs contributed to his illness, that's totally fine and is your opinion.
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Bishop9800
04/24/17 8:49:23 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
I have a feeling if he didn't smoke it, he wouldn't have fallen ill. I think it's too much of a coincidence.



And that's your problem You don't think.
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MabusIncarnate
04/24/17 8:50:18 PM
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Maybe the guy he was smoking with recently had been sick or was getting sick also, chances are both their lips were touching the joint or bowl or whatever they were smoking transferring germs that cause illness.
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Axiom
04/24/17 8:51:23 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Capn Circus posted...
His lungs collapsed. I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend smoking something into your lungs didn't contribute to lungs collapsing. Smoking anything isn't healthy. Smoke doesn't belong in the lungs.


I don't think you know what pneumonia is....

He didn't get it because he smoked weed.

This. The only way you can claim it contributed to his death is because he was denied a transplant since he tested positive for it
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:53:24 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I have a feeling if he didn't smoke it, he wouldn't have fallen ill. I think it's too much of a coincidence.



And that's your problem You don't think.


So you believe smoking doesn't have an effect on lungs?
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Sami1000
04/24/17 8:57:03 PM
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Mernardi posted...
Shouldn't have injected the marijuanas smh.


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gamepimp12
04/24/17 8:58:08 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I have a feeling if he didn't smoke it, he wouldn't have fallen ill. I think it's too much of a coincidence.



And that's your problem You don't think.


So you believe smoking doesn't have an effect on lungs?


No we don't think smoking causes pneumonia or really has anything to do with why he died
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 8:58:23 PM
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Or maybe he got some contaminated weed and his lungs couldn't handle heavy metals and fungus.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/modern-marijuana-more-potent-often-laced-heavy-metals-and-fungus-180954696/
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thronedfire2
04/24/17 9:00:09 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Or maybe he got some contaminated weed and his lungs couldn't handle heavy metals and fungus.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/modern-marijuana-more-potent-often-laced-heavy-metals-and-fungus-180954696/


And if the federal government would just legalize and control it we wouldn't have that problem
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loafy013
04/24/17 9:03:53 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
I don't get denying him in the first place though, he's getting new lungs anyway so who the fuck cares what happens to his old ones?

If I'm waiting for a liver transplant, should I keep drinking because I'm getting a new one. Or do I refrain from doing any more damage to my body in the meantime.
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voldothegr8
04/24/17 9:07:28 PM
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loafy013 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I don't get denying him in the first place though, he's getting new lungs anyway so who the fuck cares what happens to his old ones?

If I'm waiting for a liver transplant, should I keep drinking because I'm getting a new one. Or do I refrain from doing any more damage to my body in the meantime.

Keep drinking, wtf kind of question is that? Send it off with a bang.
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iosifsvoboda
04/24/17 9:09:39 PM
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What happened is he was stoned and drank stuff while he was laying down and weed made him want to lay down. So he drank while laying down which can cause pnuemonia
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Peyton_Hillis
04/24/17 9:10:07 PM
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Probably laced
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04/24/17 9:10:35 PM
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EverDownward
04/24/17 9:11:17 PM
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What the fuck was in that marijuana???

EDIT: They should find the kid he smoked with and find out
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thanosibe
04/24/17 9:15:34 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
Capn Circus posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
So he didn't get sick from marijuana then.

No he already had a life threatening illness. The title is so twisted it's borderline trolling.


Really? The articles indicate he became sick after smoking marijuana. They don't indicate he was already sick.

His lungs collapsed. I think it's a little disingenuous to pretend smoking something into your lungs didn't contribute to lungs collapsing. Smoking anything isn't healthy. Smoke doesn't belong in the lungs.

And millions smoke marijuana every day and don't have their lungs collapse.

It's like this rarely happens or something rofl


I know. Take the topic for what it's worth. If you truly don't believe him inhaling smoke into his lungs contributed to his illness, that's totally fine and is your opinion.
On a forum that gets unnecessarily mad about tobacco smokers you'd think they would make the connection. But that would mean muh pot is bad for me. Do what you want with your life and body; but lol at not thinking inhaling smoke of any kind isn't good for your lungs
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Bishop9800
04/24/17 9:17:28 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I have a feeling if he didn't smoke it, he wouldn't have fallen ill. I think it's too much of a coincidence.



And that's your problem You don't think.


So you believe smoking doesn't have an effect on lungs?



Did I say that? And like others had said, he already had a life threatening illness. Like I said before, You don't think.
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sktgamer_13dude
04/24/17 9:55:39 PM
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What it sounds like is the kid got pneumonia, had shitty lungs, and a bunch of Mormon hospitals told him no cause it's Utah. Guy finally gets accepted and gets the surgery at a good hospital and dies after said surgery.

I think the story is more about how shitty laws are because him smoking marijuana should have no influence.
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 10:19:24 PM
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Bishop9800 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
Capn Circus posted...
I have a feeling if he didn't smoke it, he wouldn't have fallen ill. I think it's too much of a coincidence.



And that's your problem You don't think.


So you believe smoking doesn't have an effect on lungs?



Did I say that? And like others had said, he already had a life threatening illness. Like I said before, You don't think.


Where in any articles does it say he already had an illness?
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Sayoria
04/24/17 10:25:02 PM
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I knew this stuff was bad for you.
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sktgamer_13dude
04/24/17 10:34:54 PM
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Sayoria posted...
I knew this stuff was bad for you.

Because of a very rare case?

Literally have never seen another case like this. If this was more common, we'd hear about this more and maybe states wouldn't be legalizing a drug.
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Leanaunfurled
04/24/17 10:35:54 PM
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Sayoria posted...
I knew this stuff was bad for you.

rofl
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sktgamer_13dude
04/24/17 10:46:39 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
1. Marijuana does not cause pneumonia
2. This is not something you believe to be true or false. "The 19-year-old pneumonia patient who was denied a lung transplant at the University of Utah after traces of marijuana were found in his system has died of complications following a surgery in Philadelphia." -- He died of complications of a surgery.

Yup.

And denied a transplant in Utah but allowed one by an Ivy League school.

Hmmmm....seems like marijuana might not of been an issue. I know University of Utah isn't BYU, but they're also federally funded. They probably couldn't because the feds would of been upset somehow. They also have to have some kind of Mormon leadership somewhere along the chain or some kind of Mormon-influence from something. It's Utah, and Utah's biggest city. Not trying to "Mormon bash" or anything, just saying they have different beliefs and hold them fairly strongly; not saying it's right or wrong, just stating the facts.

Just saying, lol Capn.
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Sayoria
04/24/17 10:55:56 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sayoria posted...
I knew this stuff was bad for you.

Because of a very rare case?

Literally have never seen another case like this. If this was more common, we'd hear about this more and maybe states wouldn't be legalizing a drug.


If one person was killed by something bizarre, it is still deadly no matter how rare of occurrence it is.
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 11:08:30 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Sayoria posted...
I knew this stuff was bad for you.

Because of a very rare case?

Literally have never seen another case like this. If this was more common, we'd hear about this more and maybe states wouldn't be legalizing a drug.


The topic focuses on this specific incidence. Not how common or uncommon it may be
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 11:12:55 PM
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Asherlee10 posted...
1. Marijuana does not cause pneumonia
2. This is not something you believe to be true or false. "The 19-year-old pneumonia patient who was denied a lung transplant at the University of Utah after traces of marijuana were found in his system has died of complications following a surgery in Philadelphia." -- He died of complications of a surgery.


Smoke is harmful to lung health. Whether from burning wood, tobacco or marijuana, toxins and carcinogens are released from the combustion of materials. Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.4-7

http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/marijuana-and-lung-health.html
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Axiom
04/24/17 11:14:54 PM
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Capn Circus posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
1. Marijuana does not cause pneumonia
2. This is not something you believe to be true or false. "The 19-year-old pneumonia patient who was denied a lung transplant at the University of Utah after traces of marijuana were found in his system has died of complications following a surgery in Philadelphia." -- He died of complications of a surgery.


Smoke is harmful to lung health. Whether from burning wood, tobacco or marijuana, toxins and carcinogens are released from the combustion of materials. Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.4-7

http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/marijuana-and-lung-health.html

That has absolutely nothing to do with her post
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DirkDiggles
04/24/17 11:16:57 PM
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Waluigi7
04/24/17 11:17:29 PM
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Capn Circus
04/24/17 11:27:05 PM
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Axiom posted...
Capn Circus posted...
Asherlee10 posted...
1. Marijuana does not cause pneumonia
2. This is not something you believe to be true or false. "The 19-year-old pneumonia patient who was denied a lung transplant at the University of Utah after traces of marijuana were found in his system has died of complications following a surgery in Philadelphia." -- He died of complications of a surgery.


Smoke is harmful to lung health. Whether from burning wood, tobacco or marijuana, toxins and carcinogens are released from the combustion of materials. Smoke from marijuana combustion has been shown to contain many of the same toxins, irritants and carcinogens as tobacco smoke.4-7

http://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/marijuana-and-lung-health.html

That has absolutely nothing to do with her post


Sure it does. She's being disingenuous in assuming my topic is specifically about marijuana causing his illness. I've already previously stated if he were to ingest it he likely would not have had the same outcome.

My topic is clearly stated, and it regards "smoking". The teen happened to have smoked marijuana. I've also posted a Smithsonian article that states some marijuana is contaminated with fungus and heavy metals---that certainly can't be healthy--especially when smoked.

To say that smoking a substance (in this case marijuana) played absolutely no roll whatsoever in a lung related illness that quickly followed after smoking is naive.
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