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Antifar 04/25/17 9:27:13 AM #52:	Find me a Republican who supports increasing corporate taxes, and then we can discuss whether Democrats are too ideologically rigid. --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877860269] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>Find me a Republican who supports increasing corporate taxes, and then we can discuss whether Democrats are too ideologically rigid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 11:21:22 AM #54:	Antifar posted... Find me a Republican who supports increasing corporate taxes, and then we can discuss whether Democrats are too ideologically rigid. This is irrelevant to the discussion. Asherlee10 posted... That doesn't seem to be the actuality of what's going on here, though. The former DNC chair is suggesting that pro-life politicians do not have a viable space to run for office as a democrat because their target audience is often for abortion rights. That's a much more reasonable thing to say --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877865317] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>Find me a Republican who supports increasing corporate taxes, and then we can discuss whether Democrats are too ideologically rigid.</quote> This is irrelevant to the discussion. <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote> That doesn't seem to be the actuality of what's going on here, though. The former DNC chair is suggesting that pro-life politicians do not have a viable space to run for office as a democrat because their target audience is often for abortion rights.</quote> That's a much more reasonable thing to say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlephZero 04/25/17 11:22:53 AM #55:	"for every pro life voter we lose we'll pick up two pro choice voters" democrats, probably --- "There is value in segregation." - qwertyman2002 01001100 01010101 01000101 00100000 00110100 00110000 00110010 <cite>AlephZero posted [p:877865406] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>"for every pro life voter we lose we'll pick up two pro choice voters" democrats, probably</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 04/25/17 11:30:28 AM #56:	Good. Democrats are about individual freedoms. Gays, women, everyone is free to do with themselves whatever they want. All the horrible controlling tyrants can stay red <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:877865835] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>Good. Democrats are about individual freedoms. Gays, women, everyone is free to do with themselves whatever they want. All the horrible controlling tyrants can stay red</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weapon_d00d816 04/25/17 11:34:18 AM #57:	Iodine posted... Good. Abortion rights is not something the Democrats should be negotiating. About damn time they grew a fucking spine. While I agree on principle, they need to realize that they are one of two parties in the US political system and that abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. It's idiotic to turn away so many people who agree on almost every front but don't support abortion. And abortion isn't a good issue to take a hardline stance on to begin with. I'm pro-choice but I wholly recognize this isn't an easy black-and-white decision to make. It's a calculated decision that weighs the unfortunate consequences and moral gray areas with the greater good. It's reckless say pro-lifers need to "get with the times" or "catch up or be left behind" on an issue of moral sacrifice. --- SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SIG SlG <cite>weapon_d00d816 posted [p:877866046] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Abortion rights is not something the Democrats should be negotiating. About damn time they grew a fucking spine.</quote> While I agree on principle, they need to realize that they are one of two parties in the US political system and that abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. It's idiotic to turn away so many people who agree on almost every front but don't support abortion. And abortion isn't a good issue to take a hardline stance on to begin with. I'm pro-choice but I wholly recognize this isn't an easy black-and-white decision to make. It's a calculated decision that weighs the unfortunate consequences and moral gray areas with the greater good. It's reckless say pro-lifers need to "get with the times" or "catch up or be left behind" on an issue of moral sacrifice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 04/25/17 11:35:47 AM #58:	weapon_d00d816 posted... abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. It basically is http://www.gallup.com/poll/183434/americans-choose-pro-choice-first-time-seven-years.aspx --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877866111] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote>abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. </quote> It basically is http://www.gallup.com/poll/183434/americans-choose-pro-choice-first-time-seven-years.aspx</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
E32005 04/25/17 11:36:13 AM #59:	Sayoria posted... Being in any party now seems like a fucking joke. --- http://i.imgur.com/LAvnefi.gif http://i.imgur.com/6kW9fXL.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:877866139] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote>Being in any party now seems like a fucking joke.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 11:36:52 AM #60:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Iodine posted... Good. Abortion rights is not something the Democrats should be negotiating. About damn time they grew a fucking spine. While I agree on principle, they need to realize that they are one of two parties in the US political system and that abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. It's idiotic to turn away so many people who agree on almost every front but don't support abortion. And abortion isn't a good issue to take a hardline stance on to begin with. I'm pro-choice but I wholly recognize this isn't an easy black-and-white decision to make. It's a calculated decision that weighs the unfortunate consequences and moral gray areas with the greater good. It's reckless say pro-lifers need to "get with the times" or "catch up or be left behind" on an issue of moral sacrifice. The entire "Pro-Life" and "pro-choice" stance is stupid and dishonest to begin with --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877866190] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Abortion rights is not something the Democrats should be negotiating. About damn time they grew a fucking spine.</quote> While I agree on principle, they need to realize that they are one of two parties in the US political system and that abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. It's idiotic to turn away so many people who agree on almost every front but don't support abortion. And abortion isn't a good issue to take a hardline stance on to begin with. I'm pro-choice but I wholly recognize this isn't an easy black-and-white decision to make. It's a calculated decision that weighs the unfortunate consequences and moral gray areas with the greater good. It's reckless say pro-lifers need to "get with the times" or "catch up or be left behind" on an issue of moral sacrifice.</quote> The entire "Pro-Life" and "pro-choice" stance is stupid and dishonest to begin with</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 04/25/17 11:39:57 AM #61:	The abortion debate is really stupid. It shouldn't be front and center and take away attention from a more important issue like the economy. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:877866345] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>The abortion debate is really stupid. It shouldn't be front and center and take away attention from a more important issue like the economy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 11:41:53 AM #62:	DragonGirlYuki posted... The abortion debate is really stupid. It shouldn't be front and center and take away attention from a more important issue like the economy. If you believe abortion is murder then how much tax is there on importing oranges from the UK is not more important --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877866462] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>DragonGirlYuki posted...</cite> <quote>The abortion debate is really stupid. It shouldn't be front and center and take away attention from a more important issue like the economy.</quote> If you believe abortion is murder then how much tax is there on importing oranges from the UK is not more important</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DragonGirlYuki 04/25/17 11:44:23 AM #63:	I am pretty sure the majority of people in Venezuela are more concerned about abortion than their economy right now. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:877866617] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>I am pretty sure the majority of people in Venezuela are more concerned about abortion than their economy right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/25/17 11:47:10 AM #64:	What a lazy facetious remark. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877866775] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>What a lazy facetious remark.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 04/25/17 11:57:29 AM #66:	Abortion is a silly debate that a vocal minority likes to make a big fuss about. --- ~Yuki~ <cite>DragonGirlYuki posted [p:877867367] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>Abortion is a silly debate that a vocal minority likes to make a big fuss about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/25/17 8:39:36 PM #68:	The kerfuffle started over a report that was not true: https://www.thenation.com/article/why-was-heath-mello-thrown-under-the-bus/ Instead, on April 19, The Wall Street Journal ran a story noting that Mello, a practicing Catholic, is pro-life. The story also falsely claimed that Mello had co-sponsored a bill “requiring women to look at an ultrasound image of their fetus before receiving an abortion.” A similar error was made by The Washington Post, which claimed that Mello had “previously backed a bill requiring ultrasounds for women considering abortions,” and then again the following day by David Nir, political director of Daily Kos, who announced the site was withdrawing its endorsement of Mello—a move applauded by Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, who’d launched a 12-part Twitter storm linking to the WSJ article and accusing Sanders and Perez of kicking off their tour with the message “shame women; we’ll support u anyway.” Here’s the truth about Mello’s record: Back in 2009, he co-sponsored a bill requiring a physician performing an abortion to tell a woman that an ultrasound is available (as most already did). It neither mandated that the ultrasound be performed nor, if performed, that it actually be viewed by the woman—although it did require abortion providers to position the screen in such a way that the ultrasound was easily viewable. Daily Kos member Nova Land—a Tennessean who had never heard of Mello before the controversy—posted a comprehensive, well-sourced correction to this effect the same day. That didn’t lead Nir to reconsider. Nor did it stop Perez from issuing a statement announcing that he “fundamentally disagree[s] with Heath Mello’s personal beliefs about women’s reproductive health,” which was worded in a way that appeared to cast doubt on the sincerity of Mello’s pledge that he “would never do anything to restrict access to reproductive health care.” --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877900217] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>The kerfuffle started over a report that was not true: https://www.thenation.com/article/why-was-heath-mello-thrown-under-the-bus/ <quote> Instead, on April 19, The Wall Street Journal ran a story noting that Mello, a practicing Catholic, is pro-life. The story also falsely claimed that Mello had co-sponsored a bill “requiring women to look at an ultrasound image of their fetus before receiving an abortion.” A similar error was made by The Washington Post, which claimed that Mello had “previously backed a bill requiring ultrasounds for women considering abortions,” and then again the following day by David Nir, political director of Daily Kos, who announced the site was withdrawing its endorsement of Mello—a move applauded by Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, who’d launched a 12-part Twitter storm linking to the WSJ article and accusing Sanders and Perez of kicking off their tour with the message “shame women; we’ll support u anyway.” Here’s the truth about Mello’s record: Back in 2009, he co-sponsored a bill requiring a physician performing an abortion to tell a woman that an ultrasound is available (as most already did). It neither mandated that the ultrasound be performed nor, if performed, that it actually be viewed by the woman—although it did require abortion providers to position the screen in such a way that the ultrasound was easily viewable. Daily Kos member Nova Land—a Tennessean who had never heard of Mello before the controversy—posted a comprehensive, well-sourced correction to this effect the same day. That didn’t lead Nir to reconsider. Nor did it stop Perez from issuing a statement announcing that he “fundamentally disagree[s] with Heath Mello’s personal beliefs about women’s reproductive health,” which was worded in a way that appeared to cast doubt on the sincerity of Mello’s pledge that he “would never do anything to restrict access to reproductive health care.”</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/26/17 9:41:43 AM #69:	weapon_d00d816 posted... Iodine posted... Good. Abortion rights is not something the Democrats should be negotiating. About damn time they grew a fucking spine. While I agree on principle, they need to realize that they are one of two parties in the US political system and that abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. It's idiotic to turn away so many people who agree on almost every front but don't support abortion. And abortion isn't a good issue to take a hardline stance on to begin with. I'm pro-choice but I wholly recognize this isn't an easy black-and-white decision to make. It's a calculated decision that weighs the unfortunate consequences and moral gray areas with the greater good. It's reckless say pro-lifers need to "get with the times" or "catch up or be left behind" on an issue of moral sacrifice. The people that are pro life are always going to break for the right anyway. It's part of an encompassing worldview where personal responsibility is the sole builder of societal safety. It's not shocking that Democrats are fixing the party on this now but why they took so long to realize that no voters come for weakly pro life positions <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:877930278] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>weapon_d00d816 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Abortion rights is not something the Democrats should be negotiating. About damn time they grew a fucking spine.</quote> While I agree on principle, they need to realize that they are one of two parties in the US political system and that abortion is not an issue that is evenly split amongst the voting populace. It's idiotic to turn away so many people who agree on almost every front but don't support abortion. And abortion isn't a good issue to take a hardline stance on to begin with. I'm pro-choice but I wholly recognize this isn't an easy black-and-white decision to make. It's a calculated decision that weighs the unfortunate consequences and moral gray areas with the greater good. It's reckless say pro-lifers need to "get with the times" or "catch up or be left behind" on an issue of moral sacrifice.</quote> The people that are pro life are always going to break for the right anyway. It's part of an encompassing worldview where personal responsibility is the sole builder of societal safety. It's not shocking that Democrats are fixing the party on this now but why they took so long to realize that no voters come for weakly pro life positions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 04/26/17 9:46:47 AM #71:	More DNC stupidity. Guess they'll just blame jerrymandering again when this idiocy costs them a bunch of southern seats and they need to deflect responsibility away from their terrible strategy. Amazing that this has truly become the party of Hillary Clinton. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:877930510] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>More DNC stupidity. Guess they'll just blame jerrymandering again when this idiocy costs them a bunch of southern seats and they need to deflect responsibility away from their terrible strategy. Amazing that this has truly become the party of Hillary Clinton.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 04/26/17 9:51:19 AM #73:	Asherlee10 posted... wah_wah_wah posted... It's not shocking that Democrats are fixing the party But, are they really trying to fix the party? This statement was from the former DNC chair. Came from Perez <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:877930760] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>It's not shocking that Democrats are fixing the party </quote> But, are they really trying to fix the party? This statement was from the former DNC chair.</quote> Came from Perez</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wah_wah_wah 04/26/17 10:06:49 AM #75:	Asherlee10 posted... wah_wah_wah posted... Asherlee10 posted... wah_wah_wah posted... It's not shocking that Democrats are fixing the party But, are they really trying to fix the party? This statement was from the former DNC chair. Came from Perez If you are talking about the OP, TC did not cite a credible article. Asherlee10 posted... @unclekoolaid73 - you have the headline wrong. former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean suggested that pro-life Americans are unwelcome in the party because the younger voters that Democrats need to energize are concerned with “social justice,” Yeah well Dean said it and now this guy said it too <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:877931493] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>It's not shocking that Democrats are fixing the party </quote> But, are they really trying to fix the party? This statement was from the former DNC chair.</quote> Came from Perez</quote> If you are talking about the OP, TC did not cite a credible article. <cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote>@unclekoolaid73 - you have the headline wrong. former Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean suggested that pro-life Americans are unwelcome in the party because the younger voters that Democrats need to energize are concerned with “social justice,”</quote></quote> Yeah well Dean said it and now this guy said it too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 04/26/17 10:21:13 AM #77:	Asherlee10 posted... wah_wah_wah posted... Yeah well Dean said it and now this guy said it too For some reason I couldn't find an article about Dean saying this. Did you happen to come across one? If so, please share. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/10/howard-dean-former-dnc-chairman-suggests-democrati/ http://www.lifenews.com/2017/04/24/democrat-party-chair-no-place-for-pro-life-democrats-get-in-line-with-abortion-of-get-out/ --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877932159] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah well Dean said it and now this guy said it too</quote> For some reason I couldn't find an article about Dean saying this. Did you happen to come across one? If so, please share.</quote> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/10/howard-dean-former-dnc-chairman-suggests-democrati/ http://www.lifenews.com/2017/04/24/democrat-party-chair-no-place-for-pro-life-democrats-get-in-line-with-abortion-of-get-out/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
J E S U S 04/26/17 10:27:30 AM #78:	Darklit_Minuet posted... Good. Democrats are about individual freedoms. Gays, women, everyone is free to do with themselves whatever they want. All the horrible controlling tyrants can stay red Darklit_Minuet posted... Good. Democrats are about individual freedoms. Gays, women, everyone is free to do with themselves whatever they want. All the horrible controlling tyrants can stay red Free to do what they want, unless they disagree right? --- imaginary <cite>J E S U S posted [p:877932478] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Democrats are about individual freedoms. Gays, women, everyone is free to do with themselves whatever they want. All the horrible controlling tyrants can stay red</quote> <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted...</cite> <quote>Good. Democrats are about individual freedoms. Gays, women, everyone is free to do with themselves whatever they want. All the horrible controlling tyrants can stay red</quote> Free to do what they want, unless they disagree right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 04/26/17 10:34:02 AM #80:	The Democratic minority leader in the house: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/g00/video/2017/04/23/nancy_pelosi_there_is_room_in_the_party_for_pro-life_democrats.html --- an aspirin the size of the sun. <cite>Antifar posted [p:877932810] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>The Democratic minority leader in the house: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/g00/video/2017/04/23/nancy_pelosi_there_is_room_in_the_party_for_pro-life_democrats.html</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/26/17 10:35:20 AM #81:	just imagine democrats taking any kind of hard-line position on an economic issue just imagine we are the party of women's rights and minority rights, issues i support. but there are TWO political parties in america so we can't just be those things. moves like this are transparent as fuck attempts to drive out the populists and i don't really know why the party is so afraid of itself. bad move that i somewhat expected from perez. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877932881] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>just imagine democrats taking any kind of hard-line position on an economic issue just imagine we are the party of women's rights and minority rights, issues i support. but there are TWO political parties in america so we can't just be those things. moves like this are transparent as fuck attempts to drive out the populists and i don't really know why the party is so afraid of itself. bad move that i somewhat expected from perez.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/26/17 10:36:25 AM #82:	Pro-life Democrats, we'll accept you. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:877932945] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>Pro-life Democrats, we'll accept you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 04/26/17 10:50:21 AM #83:	The Admiral posted... More DNC stupidity. Guess they'll just blame jerrymandering again when this idiocy costs them a bunch of southern seats and they need to deflect responsibility away from their terrible strategy. Amazing that this has truly become the party of Hillary Clinton. To be fair, fuck the south. I have no clue why you guys fought a war to keep them from seceding, should have just let them form their own shithole <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:877933667] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>More DNC stupidity. Guess they'll just blame jerrymandering again when this idiocy costs them a bunch of southern seats and they need to deflect responsibility away from their terrible strategy. Amazing that this has truly become the party of Hillary Clinton.</quote> To be fair, fuck the south. I have no clue why you guys fought a war to keep them from seceding, should have just let them form their own shithole</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/26/17 1:18:57 PM #84:	Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:877942343] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scoobydoobydont 04/26/17 1:20:49 PM #85:	The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost. --- http://i.imgur.com/Lz9KiZA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/eUg3mP6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/MK8vbmw.png https://i.imgur.com/DNvL8q5.jpg <cite>scoobydoobydont posted [p:877942466] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/26/17 1:22:10 PM #86:	No place for pro-lifers anywhere imo. We need to cut it out with this shit already. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:877942560] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>No place for pro-lifers anywhere imo. We need to cut it out with this shit already.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/26/17 2:18:08 PM #87:	scoobydoobydont posted... The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost. Awesome! Anymore large groups of voters you want to send our way? Are the straight white male Democrats close to exile? We'll take them too. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:877946387] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost.</quote> Awesome! Anymore large groups of voters you want to send our way? Are the straight white male Democrats close to exile? We'll take them too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/26/17 2:31:46 PM #88:	Nomadic View posted... scoobydoobydont posted... The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost. Awesome! Anymore large groups of voters you want to send our way? Are the straight white male Democrats close to exile? We'll take them too. I think they're more likely to just not vote. Trump didn't get record votes. Clinton just got millions of fewer votes than Barmy Obarmy --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877947223] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost.</quote> Awesome! Anymore large groups of voters you want to send our way? Are the straight white male Democrats close to exile? We'll take them too.</quote> I think they're more likely to just not vote. Trump didn't get record votes. Clinton just got millions of fewer votes than Barmy Obarmy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/26/17 3:26:53 PM #89:	Nomadic View posted... Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically. Gerrymandering is overrated as a systemic problem in our government. It is something everyone can see is wrong, even people that don't really know anything about how a system of government functions. I'd honestly say the biggest problem with gerrymandering is how much time activists spend talking about it compared to how fixing it wouldn't really solve the biggest institutional problems. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:877950814] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically.</quote> Gerrymandering is overrated as a systemic problem in our government. It is something everyone can see is wrong, even people that don't really know anything about how a system of government functions. I'd honestly say the biggest problem with gerrymandering is how much time activists spend talking about it compared to how fixing it wouldn't really solve the biggest institutional problems.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/26/17 7:19:19 PM #90:	wah_wah_wah posted... Nomadic View posted... Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically. Gerrymandering is overrated as a systemic problem in our government. It is something everyone can see is wrong, even people that don't really know anything about how a system of government functions. I'd honestly say the biggest problem with gerrymandering is how much time activists spend talking about it compared to how fixing it wouldn't really solve the biggest institutional problems. completely wrong the average margin of victory in the house is ~37% there are dictators who win by less fundamentally gerrymandering removes any obligation of congressmen from having to represent their voters, because they pick their voters. the problem with it is the only people who can fix it, have a vested interest in maintaining it --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877965501] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically.</quote> Gerrymandering is overrated as a systemic problem in our government. It is something everyone can see is wrong, even people that don't really know anything about how a system of government functions. I'd honestly say the biggest problem with gerrymandering is how much time activists spend talking about it compared to how fixing it wouldn't really solve the biggest institutional problems.</quote> completely wrong the average margin of victory in the house is ~37% there are dictators who win by less fundamentally gerrymandering removes any obligation of congressmen from having to represent their voters, because they pick their voters. the problem with it is the only people who can fix it, have a vested interest in maintaining it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zero_Destroyer 04/26/17 7:22:39 PM #91:	"Instead of supporting pro-life red state Democrats who could win, let's just let Republicans who share virtually none of our values win instead." Can Sanders please just Bern this shit to the ground and start a new left party that isn't run by these fucking idiots? I don't agree with all of what Sanders says, but he seems to believe in actually helping move the party forward by supporting people nationwide. --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) <cite>Zero_Destroyer posted [p:877965679] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>"Instead of supporting pro-life red state Democrats who could win, let's just let Republicans who share virtually none of our values win instead." Can Sanders please just Bern this shit to the ground and start a new left party that isn't run by these fucking idiots? I don't agree with all of what Sanders says, but he seems to believe in actually helping move the party forward by supporting people nationwide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/26/17 7:28:14 PM #92:	the most asinine part of this is that the same people spurning populist dems were all about backing a centrist policy and were angry that sanders was able to push the party to the left on economics via the primary. as if primaries were an insult and we were supposed to just follow the existing party line to the letter --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877966015] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>the most asinine part of this is that the same people spurning populist dems were all about backing a centrist policy and were angry that sanders was able to push the party to the left on economics via the primary. as if primaries were an insult and we were supposed to just follow the existing party line to the letter</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 04/26/17 7:29:44 PM #93:	"pro-life" is a sham anyway --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson i.imgur.com/a2EzoIs.gif i.imgur.com/rPcGRiP.gif <cite>HylianFox posted [p:877966117] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>"pro-life" is a sham anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 04/26/17 7:35:52 PM #94:	HylianFox posted... "pro-life" is a sham anyway no it isn't. it's a real thing <cite>Zikten posted [p:877966515] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>"pro-life" is a sham anyway</quote> no it isn't. it's a real thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AugustAdoulin 04/26/17 7:36:58 PM #95:	Zikten posted... HylianFox posted... "pro-life" is a sham anyway no it isn't. it's a real thing just as real as christian science is i guess <cite>AugustAdoulin posted [p:877966588] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>"pro-life" is a sham anyway</quote> no it isn't. it's a real thing</quote> just as real as christian science is i guess</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/26/17 8:01:26 PM #96:	Darkman124 posted... wah_wah_wah posted... Nomadic View posted... Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically. Gerrymandering is overrated as a systemic problem in our government. It is something everyone can see is wrong, even people that don't really know anything about how a system of government functions. I'd honestly say the biggest problem with gerrymandering is how much time activists spend talking about it compared to how fixing it wouldn't really solve the biggest institutional problems. completely wrong the average margin of victory in the house is ~37% there are dictators who win by less fundamentally gerrymandering removes any obligation of congressmen from having to represent their voters, because they pick their voters. the problem with it is the only people who can fix it, have a vested interest in maintaining it I'm not saying it's not a problem at all but when you consider it is a problem of how one chamber in a two chamber part of the federal government selects its members, you start to see how it pales in comparison to stuff like, well everything about the Senate is fucked up. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:877968095] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Gerrymandering is bullshit, but the Supreme Court has ruled, on several cases, that it is perfectly legal even if the motives are politically motivated. The only time it was shot down is when gerrymandering was done to diminish the voting power of black voters specifically.</quote> Gerrymandering is overrated as a systemic problem in our government. It is something everyone can see is wrong, even people that don't really know anything about how a system of government functions. I'd honestly say the biggest problem with gerrymandering is how much time activists spend talking about it compared to how fixing it wouldn't really solve the biggest institutional problems.</quote> completely wrong the average margin of victory in the house is ~37% there are dictators who win by less fundamentally gerrymandering removes any obligation of congressmen from having to represent their voters, because they pick their voters. the problem with it is the only people who can fix it, have a vested interest in maintaining it</quote> I'm not saying it's not a problem at all but when you consider it is a problem of how one chamber in a two chamber part of the federal government selects its members, you start to see how it pales in comparison to stuff like, well everything about the Senate is fucked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hop103 04/26/17 8:03:04 PM #97:	The DNC chair just said that there's no place for Democrats in the US. We need a party to replace them or a rise in centrism. --- "In the name of the future moon I shall punish you"-Chibi Moon <cite>Hop103 posted [p:877968182] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote>The DNC chair just said that there's no place for Democrats in the US. We need a party to replace them or a rise in centrism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 04/26/17 8:59:17 PM #98:	UnfairRepresent posted... Nomadic View posted... scoobydoobydont posted... The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost. Awesome! Anymore large groups of voters you want to send our way? Are the straight white male Democrats close to exile? We'll take them too. I think they're more likely to just not vote. Trump didn't get record votes. Clinton just got millions of fewer votes than Barmy Obarmy That's fine too. Either way they're shooting themselves in the foot by shitting on their constituents. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:877971381] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scoobydoobydont posted...</cite> <quote>The DNC Chair is 100% right. If you're anti-choice, you don't represent Democratic values and don't belong in the party. Get lost.</quote> Awesome! Anymore large groups of voters you want to send our way? Are the straight white male Democrats close to exile? We'll take them too.</quote> I think they're more likely to just not vote. Trump didn't get record votes. Clinton just got millions of fewer votes than Barmy Obarmy</quote> That's fine too. Either way they're shooting themselves in the foot by shitting on their constituents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 04/27/17 6:57:34 AM #99:	AugustAdoulin posted... Zikten posted... HylianFox posted... "pro-life" is a sham anyway no it isn't. it's a real thing just as real as christian science is i guess This is the most CE discussion of CE --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:877993074] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>AugustAdoulin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote><cite>HylianFox posted...</cite> <quote>"pro-life" is a sham anyway</quote> no it isn't. it's a real thing</quote> just as real as christian science is i guess</quote> This is the most CE discussion of CE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 04/27/17 10:06:44 AM #100:	wah_wah_wah posted... I'm not saying it's not a problem at all but when you consider it is a problem of how one chamber in a two chamber part of the federal government selects its members, you start to see how it pales in comparison to stuff like, well everything about the Senate is f*ed up. there was no content in this post --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:877999398] in DNC Chair ... [t:75275217]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>I'm not saying it's not a problem at all but when you consider it is a problem of how one chamber in a two chamber part of the federal government selects its members, you start to see how it pales in comparison to stuff like, well everything about the Senate is f*ed up. </quote> there was no content in this post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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