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Darmik 04/30/17 7:12:51 PM #1:	The thing still seems to be selling really well. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe looks like it's going to sell gangbusters and will continue the momentum they started with Zelda. Splatoon 2 will likely tell a similar story. I thought things would be chugging along just okay until the Christmas season. I thought it would be tough for them missing the Christmas period last year. But overall it seems to have worked out for the best. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878219576] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>The thing still seems to be selling really well. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe looks like it's going to sell gangbusters and will continue the momentum they started with Zelda. Splatoon 2 will likely tell a similar story. I thought things would be chugging along just okay until the Christmas season. I thought it would be tough for them missing the Christmas period last year. But overall it seems to have worked out for the best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Virus731 04/30/17 7:13:38 PM #2:	I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first. --- I hope this **in' world **in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way <cite>Virus731 posted [p:878219620] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weAREtheB0RG 04/30/17 7:26:19 PM #3:	Virus731 posted... I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first. No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld. <cite>weAREtheB0RG posted [p:878220307] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Virus731 posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first.</quote> No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrK3V 04/30/17 7:27:17 PM #4:	I'm loving it. I'm just building and building my collection of games --- Bangers https://open.spotify.com/user/1226504071/playlist/3X4SSY5tgxTTgdwlkmoH9F <cite>MrK3V posted [p:878220354] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>I'm loving it. I'm just building and building my collection of games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Z_Zenkai1992 04/30/17 7:28:08 PM #5:	weAREtheB0RG posted... Virus731 posted... I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first. No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld. as amazing as handheld mode is, everything looks better on the TV. also, playing on a smaller screen for long periods of time can strain the eyes <cite>Z_Zenkai1992 posted [p:878220399] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>weAREtheB0RG posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Virus731 posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first.</quote> No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld.</quote> as amazing as handheld mode is, everything looks better on the TV. also, playing on a smaller screen for long periods of time can strain the eyes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManSpread 04/30/17 7:32:03 PM #6:	i play my wii u strictly on the gamepad because lol limited rgb --- https://i.imgur.com/mYLURVv.png http://i.imgur.com/Dj68WVS.gifv <cite>ManSpread posted [p:878220648] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>i play my wii u strictly on the gamepad because lol limited rgb</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Virus731 04/30/17 7:32:12 PM #7:	Z_Zenkai1992 posted... weAREtheB0RG posted... Virus731 posted... I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first. No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld. as amazing as handheld mode is, everything looks better on the TV. also, playing on a smaller screen for long periods of time can strain the eyes Pretty much. I obviously know it has a hand held mode but I don't think I'd be getting my monies worth without sometimes playing it on a TV. It's an investment for work... graveyard shift can be brutally boring. --- I hope this **in' world **in' burns away And I'd kill you all if I had my way <cite>Virus731 posted [p:878220659] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Z_Zenkai1992 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weAREtheB0RG posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Virus731 posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first.</quote> No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld.</quote> as amazing as handheld mode is, everything looks better on the TV. also, playing on a smaller screen for long periods of time can strain the eyes</quote> Pretty much. I obviously know it has a hand held mode but I don't think I'd be getting my monies worth without sometimes playing it on a TV. It's an investment for work... graveyard shift can be brutally boring.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 7:33:56 PM #8:	It would have sold regardless of when it was released and we really can't say anything about sales. With all the "people didn't even know what the Wii U was", it sold 3 million in 6 weeks. What's the Switch by 6 weeks? 3.2 maybe? 2.7 in the first month. Also it's doing really good in the US and Japan, but it's been pretty easy to find in Europe and Australia, which speaks more about other factors like scalpers. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878220750] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>It would have sold regardless of when it was released and we really can't say anything about sales. With all the "people didn't even know what the Wii U was", it sold 3 million in 6 weeks. What's the Switch by 6 weeks? 3.2 maybe? 2.7 in the first month. Also it's doing really good in the US and Japan, but it's been pretty easy to find in Europe and Australia, which speaks more about other factors like scalpers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 7:42:54 PM #9:	DoctorVader posted... It would have sold regardless of when it was released and we really can't say anything about sales. Selling in the holidays would have been easier than March. Which is when the Wii U released. DoctorVader posted... With all the "people didn't even know what the Wii U was", it sold 3 million in 6 weeks. What's the Switch by 6 weeks? 3.2 maybe? 2.7 in the first month. Also it's doing really good in the US and Japan, but it's been pretty easy to find in Europe and Australia, which speaks more about other factors like scalpers. It beat the Wii U's first holiday season in the launch month. Once it hit January Wii U sales dropped off a cliff. Places like Australia deal with shipping differently. Because we're far away we get bigger shipments less often. No idea how well it's selling here though. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878221258] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>It would have sold regardless of when it was released and we really can't say anything about sales.</quote> Selling in the holidays would have been easier than March. Which is when the Wii U released. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>With all the "people didn't even know what the Wii U was", it sold 3 million in 6 weeks. What's the Switch by 6 weeks? 3.2 maybe? 2.7 in the first month. Also it's doing really good in the US and Japan, but it's been pretty easy to find in Europe and Australia, which speaks more about other factors like scalpers.</quote> It beat the Wii U's first holiday season in the launch month. Once it hit January Wii U sales dropped off a cliff. Places like Australia deal with shipping differently. Because we're far away we get bigger shipments less often. No idea how well it's selling here though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 7:54:10 PM #10:	Darmik posted... DoctorVader posted... It would have sold regardless of when it was released and we really can't say anything about sales. Selling in the holidays would have been easier than March. Which is when the Wii U released. DoctorVader posted... With all the "people didn't even know what the Wii U was", it sold 3 million in 6 weeks. What's the Switch by 6 weeks? 3.2 maybe? 2.7 in the first month. Also it's doing really good in the US and Japan, but it's been pretty easy to find in Europe and Australia, which speaks more about other factors like scalpers. It beat the Wii U's first holiday season in the launch month. Once it hit January Wii U sales dropped off a cliff. Places like Australia deal with shipping differently. Because we're far away we get bigger shipments less often. No idea how well it's selling here though. Which all says that there is still a sizeable Nintendo fanbase left that would jump on it immediately. We know there's 14 million Wii U owners. Even if half were still fans, you have 7 million potentials. Couple that with a HUGE problem with scalpers that has slowly gotten worse and worse each Nintendo product, and things get muddier in really saying anything of note for this launch other than that it seems to be doing better than the Wii U. We don't know if in a month or so, when all the fans have gotten it, that it won't suffer the same drop off as the Wii U. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878221934] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>It would have sold regardless of when it was released and we really can't say anything about sales.</quote> Selling in the holidays would have been easier than March. Which is when the Wii U released. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>With all the "people didn't even know what the Wii U was", it sold 3 million in 6 weeks. What's the Switch by 6 weeks? 3.2 maybe? 2.7 in the first month. Also it's doing really good in the US and Japan, but it's been pretty easy to find in Europe and Australia, which speaks more about other factors like scalpers.</quote> It beat the Wii U's first holiday season in the launch month. Once it hit January Wii U sales dropped off a cliff. Places like Australia deal with shipping differently. Because we're far away we get bigger shipments less often. No idea how well it's selling here though.</quote> Which all says that there is still a sizeable Nintendo fanbase left that would jump on it immediately. We know there's 14 million Wii U owners. Even if half were still fans, you have 7 million potentials. Couple that with a HUGE problem with scalpers that has slowly gotten worse and worse each Nintendo product, and things get muddier in really saying anything of note for this launch other than that it seems to be doing better than the Wii U. We don't know if in a month or so, when all the fans have gotten it, that it won't suffer the same drop off as the Wii U.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 8:00:39 PM #11:	I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. I don't think it would be very profitable for scalpers to do this like it was with Amiibo and the NES Classic. It's also way more expensive to buy. We're two months after launch now and it's still selling great. Mario Kart 8 just came out and will give the Switch more momentum. Splatoon 2 will add some more momentum and then they just have a few more months until the holiday season which they should have no problem at all continuing to sell. Besides this topic is about the March launch being a good idea. Which it was. Not about long term success. At the very least their first year looks to be covered well. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878222334] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. I don't think it would be very profitable for scalpers to do this like it was with Amiibo and the NES Classic. It's also way more expensive to buy. We're two months after launch now and it's still selling great. Mario Kart 8 just came out and will give the Switch more momentum. Splatoon 2 will add some more momentum and then they just have a few more months until the holiday season which they should have no problem at all continuing to sell. Besides this topic is about the March launch being a good idea. Which it was. Not about long term success. At the very least their first year looks to be covered well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weAREtheB0RG 04/30/17 8:05:17 PM #12:	Darmik posted... I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. I don't think it would be very profitable for scalpers to do this like it was with Amiibo and the NES Classic. It's also way more expensive to buy. We're two months after launch now and it's still selling great. Mario Kart 8 just came out and will give the Switch more momentum. Splatoon 2 will add some more momentum and then they just have a few more months until the holiday season which they should have no problem at all continuing to sell. Besides this topic is about the March launch being a good idea. Which it was. Not about long term success. At the very least their first year looks to be covered well. Yeah I've always said that the March launch was smart. It's gives them plenty of time to ramp up production and have an abundance of consoles available for the holidays, while allowing the more hardcore Nintendo fans to buy their consoles early. And by the time the holidays roll around there will be plenty of quality titles for people to justify jumping on the system. <cite>weAREtheB0RG posted [p:878222617] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. I don't think it would be very profitable for scalpers to do this like it was with Amiibo and the NES Classic. It's also way more expensive to buy. We're two months after launch now and it's still selling great. Mario Kart 8 just came out and will give the Switch more momentum. Splatoon 2 will add some more momentum and then they just have a few more months until the holiday season which they should have no problem at all continuing to sell. Besides this topic is about the March launch being a good idea. Which it was. Not about long term success. At the very least their first year looks to be covered well.</quote> Yeah I've always said that the March launch was smart. It's gives them plenty of time to ramp up production and have an abundance of consoles available for the holidays, while allowing the more hardcore Nintendo fans to buy their consoles early. And by the time the holidays roll around there will be plenty of quality titles for people to justify jumping on the system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 8:12:20 PM #13:	Darmik posted... I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. I don't think it would be very profitable for scalpers to do this like it was with Amiibo and the NES Classic. It's also way more expensive to buy. You obviously haven't been following the scalper market. Regardless, you just said you're from Australia, where this problem is not really much of an issue. In the US, people are making a killing and things have still not slowed down. Entire families with friends show up to buy the Switch. It sells out in 5 minutes online. Till last week, yes, it was very much impossible to find one outside scalpers and is still very hard. Darmik posted... We're two months after launch now and it's still selling great. Mario Kart 8 just came out and will give the Switch more momentum. Splatoon 2 will add some more momentum and then they just have a few more months until the holiday season which they should have no problem at all continuing to sell. This is what I'm talking about. MK8 came out Friday and Splatoon 2 is not out. What exactly are you basing all this on because both were on the Wii U and didn't it help out much? You're just hoping. Darmik posted... Besides this topic is about the March launch being a good idea. Which it was. Not about long term success. At the very least their first year looks to be covered well. So then what's the point of March being a good idea if there's meant to be no link to its long term success? Regardless, what I'm saying it's too early to say any of this, but you sound like you've already checked it off as a given. It can very much take a nosedive when enough stock is available and this whole perception of high demand wears off. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878223058] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. I don't think it would be very profitable for scalpers to do this like it was with Amiibo and the NES Classic. It's also way more expensive to buy. </quote> You obviously haven't been following the scalper market. Regardless, you just said you're from Australia, where this problem is not really much of an issue. In the US, people are making a killing and things have still not slowed down. Entire families with friends show up to buy the Switch. It sells out in 5 minutes online. Till last week, yes, it was very much impossible to find one outside scalpers and is still very hard. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>We're two months after launch now and it's still selling great. Mario Kart 8 just came out and will give the Switch more momentum. Splatoon 2 will add some more momentum and then they just have a few more months until the holiday season which they should have no problem at all continuing to sell.</quote> This is what I'm talking about. MK8 came out Friday and Splatoon 2 is not out. What exactly are you basing all this on because both were on the Wii U and didn't it help out much? You're just hoping. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Besides this topic is about the March launch being a good idea. Which it was. Not about long term success. At the very least their first year looks to be covered well.</quote> So then what's the point of March being a good idea if there's meant to be no link to its long term success? Regardless, what I'm saying it's too early to say any of this, but you sound like you've already checked it off as a given. It can very much take a nosedive when enough stock is available and this whole perception of high demand wears off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 8:16:02 PM #14:	DoctorVader posted... You obviously haven't been following the scalper market. Regardless, you just said you're from Australia, where this problem is not really much of an issue. In the US, people are making a killing and things have still not slowed down. Entire families with friends show up to buy the Switch. It sells out in 5 minutes online. Till last week, yes, it was very much impossible to find one outside scalpers and is still very hard. How much are they selling for? If people are paying way above RRP that's a sign that the Switch is even more successful than I thought. DoctorVader posted... This is what I'm talking about. MK8 came out Friday and Splatoon 2 is not out. What exactly are you basing all this on because both were on the Wii U and didn't it help out much? You're just hoping. I'm basing it on current sales? Mario Kart 8 is topping charts already. DoctorVader posted... So then what's the point of March being a good idea if there's meant to be no link to its long term success? Because it's not a given to be a big seller in March. It didn't work out for the 3DS and Wii U sales dropped off after the Christmas period. Switch is different. DoctorVader posted... Regardless, what I'm saying it's too early to say any of this, but you sound like you've already checked it off as a given. It can very much take a nosedive when enough stock is available and this whole perception of high demand wears off. It's too early to say that a March release was a good idea? Well according to you it would sell the exact same regardless so I'm not sure why you'd disagree. If it will nosedive I don't think it will happen until at least next year now. lmao at 'perception of high demand' --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878223285] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>You obviously haven't been following the scalper market. Regardless, you just said you're from Australia, where this problem is not really much of an issue. In the US, people are making a killing and things have still not slowed down. Entire families with friends show up to buy the Switch. It sells out in 5 minutes online. Till last week, yes, it was very much impossible to find one outside scalpers and is still very hard.</quote> How much are they selling for? If people are paying way above RRP that's a sign that the Switch is even more successful than I thought. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>This is what I'm talking about. MK8 came out Friday and Splatoon 2 is not out. What exactly are you basing all this on because both were on the Wii U and didn't it help out much? You're just hoping.</quote> I'm basing it on current sales? Mario Kart 8 is topping charts already. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>So then what's the point of March being a good idea if there's meant to be no link to its long term success?</quote> Because it's not a given to be a big seller in March. It didn't work out for the 3DS and Wii U sales dropped off after the Christmas period. Switch is different. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless, what I'm saying it's too early to say any of this, but you sound like you've already checked it off as a given. It can very much take a nosedive when enough stock is available and this whole perception of high demand wears off.</quote> It's too early to say that a March release was a good idea? Well according to you it would sell the exact same regardless so I'm not sure why you'd disagree. If it will nosedive I don't think it will happen until at least next year now. lmao at 'perception of high demand'</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 04/30/17 8:18:08 PM #15:	Darmik posted... I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. Sure is from my experience. It's been almost two months and I have never seen a Nintendo Switch in person, nor have I ever seen a webpage for any website selling it at standard price without the words "Out of stock" on it. --- Why Nidhogg 2 gotta be so ugly tho http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:878223411] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price.</quote> Sure is from my experience. It's been almost two months and I have never seen a Nintendo Switch in person, nor have I ever seen a webpage for any website selling it at standard price without the words "Out of stock" on it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darklit_Minuet 04/30/17 8:19:43 PM #16:	Disgaea 5 isn't even out yet and it's already printing money <cite>Darklit_Minuet posted [p:878223504] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>Disgaea 5 isn't even out yet and it's already printing money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 8:19:59 PM #17:	l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... Darmik posted... I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. Sure is from my experience. It's been almost two months and I have never seen a Nintendo Switch in person, nor have I ever seen a webpage for any website selling it at standard price without the words "Out of stock" on it. Are you trying to buy one? Or just having a general look? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878223520] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price.</quote> Sure is from my experience. It's been almost two months and I have never seen a Nintendo Switch in person, nor have I ever seen a webpage for any website selling it at standard price without the words "Out of stock" on it.</quote> Are you trying to buy one? Or just having a general look?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 8:32:20 PM #18:	Darmik posted... How much are they selling for? If people are paying way above RRP that's a sign that the Switch is even more successful than I thought. It sells for $400 because scalpers keep buying it and further limiting supplies, but things have become flooded. There's people on there with 15-20+ units. There's more Switches on Amazon, eBay, and craigslist than in the wild. Denying the scalper problem in the US while sitting in Australia is pretty ignorant. Most people from the US will tell you that it is extremely hard to find one and just this Friday, they had the first real restock likely because of MK8. Stores were advertising it as a full event. Darmik posted... I'm basing it on current sales? Mario Kart 8 is topping charts already. Two days of sales... Darmik posted... Because it's not a given to be a big seller in March. It didn't work out for the 3DS and Wii U sales dropped off after the Christmas period. Switch is different. There's nothing to say the Switch is different at this point. Which is my point. Darmik posted... It's too early to say that a March release was a good idea? Well according to you it would sell the exact same regardless so I'm not sure why you'd disagree. No, that it's too early to say it means anything when there's at the very least 7 million potentials out there. Darmik posted... If it will nosedive I don't think it will happen until at least next year now. lmao at 'perception of high demand' We don't know if the demand is anything further than Nintendo fans and scalpers. That's what you seem to be ignoring. That demand could easily top off at 14 million once again. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878224342] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>How much are they selling for? If people are paying way above RRP that's a sign that the Switch is even more successful than I thought.</quote> It sells for $400 because scalpers keep buying it and further limiting supplies, but things have become flooded. There's people on there with 15-20+ units. There's more Switches on Amazon, eBay, and craigslist than in the wild. Denying the scalper problem in the US while sitting in Australia is pretty ignorant. Most people from the US will tell you that it is extremely hard to find one and just this Friday, they had the first real restock likely because of MK8. Stores were advertising it as a full event. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I'm basing it on current sales? Mario Kart 8 is topping charts already. </quote> Two days of sales... <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Because it's not a given to be a big seller in March. It didn't work out for the 3DS and Wii U sales dropped off after the Christmas period. Switch is different.</quote> There's nothing to say the Switch is different at this point. Which is my point. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>It's too early to say that a March release was a good idea? Well according to you it would sell the exact same regardless so I'm not sure why you'd disagree. </quote> No, that it's too early to say it means anything when there's at the very least 7 million potentials out there. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>If it will nosedive I don't think it will happen until at least next year now. lmao at 'perception of high demand' </quote> We don't know if the demand is anything further than Nintendo fans and scalpers. That's what you seem to be ignoring. That demand could easily top off at 14 million once again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 8:35:12 PM #19:	DoctorVader posted... It sells for $400 because scalpers keep buying it and further limiting supplies, but things have become flooded. There's people on there with 15-20+ units. There's more Switches on Amazon, eBay, and craigslist than in the wild. Are they actually selling for that price? DoctorVader posted... Two days of sales... It's the top ranked game for 2017 on Amazon DoctorVader posted... There's nothing to say the Switch is different at this point. Which is my point. There's plenty that's different. DoctorVader posted... No, that it's too early to say it means anything when there's at the very least 7 million potentials out there. Nintendo aren't guaranteed 14 million sales first year. DoctorVader posted... We don't know if the demand is anything further than Nintendo fans and scalpers. That's what you seem to be ignoring. That demand could easily top off at 14 million once again. How long are you planning on saying this? Could say that forever really. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878224496] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>It sells for $400 because scalpers keep buying it and further limiting supplies, but things have become flooded. There's people on there with 15-20+ units. There's more Switches on Amazon, eBay, and craigslist than in the wild. </quote> Are they actually selling for that price? <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>Two days of sales...</quote> It's the top ranked game for 2017 on Amazon <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>There's nothing to say the Switch is different at this point. Which is my point.</quote> There's plenty that's different. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>No, that it's too early to say it means anything when there's at the very least 7 million potentials out there.</quote> Nintendo aren't guaranteed 14 million sales first year. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>We don't know if the demand is anything further than Nintendo fans and scalpers. That's what you seem to be ignoring. That demand could easily top off at 14 million once again.</quote> How long are you planning on saying this? Could say that forever really.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 8:41:50 PM #20:	Just to compare the Wii U to the Switch launch wise for the US; Wii U; November 2012: 430k December 2012: 460k January 2013: 57k Switch; March 2017: 906k That's a lot of scalpers? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878224917] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>Just to compare the Wii U to the Switch launch wise for the US; Wii U; November 2012: 430k December 2012: 460k January 2013: 57k Switch; March 2017: 906k That's a lot of scalpers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coffeebeanz 04/30/17 8:43:30 PM #21:	Handheld mode is just as good as TV mode. Doesn't even feel like a downgrade. The screen quality is also surprisingly good. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] <cite>Coffeebeanz posted [p:878225023] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>Handheld mode is just as good as TV mode. Doesn't even feel like a downgrade. The screen quality is also surprisingly good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 8:48:45 PM #22:	Darmik posted... Are they actually selling for that price? Till before this Friday, yes and even now. In the US, almost all stock sold out in the first couple of days and then, in between that entire 2 month period, they've been trickling in 2-4 systems at each store every 2 weeks or so. It's pretty bad here, but so many scalpers got involved that they have all the stock. Darmik posted... It's the top ranked game for 2017 on Amazon At least wait for something concrete like NPD numbers. Darmik posted... There's plenty that's different. Not enough for a definite answer. Darmik posted... Nintendo aren't guaranteed 14 million sales first year. Huh? Darmik posted... How long are you planning on saying this? Could say that forever really. At least give it till it's easy to find in stores. If the momentum is still going, let's say by July, then yeah, it's different. With scalpers involved, things are bound to get skewed, which I've been trying to reiterate. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878225348] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Are they actually selling for that price?</quote> Till before this Friday, yes and even now. In the US, almost all stock sold out in the first couple of days and then, in between that entire 2 month period, they've been trickling in 2-4 systems at each store every 2 weeks or so. It's pretty bad here, but so many scalpers got involved that they have all the stock. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>It's the top ranked game for 2017 on Amazon</quote> At least wait for something concrete like NPD numbers. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>There's plenty that's different. </quote> Not enough for a definite answer. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Nintendo aren't guaranteed 14 million sales first year.</quote> Huh? <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>How long are you planning on saying this? Could say that forever really.</quote> At least give it till it's easy to find in stores. If the momentum is still going, let's say by July, then yeah, it's different. With scalpers involved, things are bound to get skewed, which I've been trying to reiterate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/30/17 8:51:24 PM #23:	To me bringing up it is selling out means nothing. If it is selling over what the Wii U sold by the end of the year, then you'll have an argument that this was a good idea. Right now the shortages are not creating this conversation about the Switch that Nintendo desperately wants to happen. Most everyday people have already forgot that it even released. There's no sensation - there's merely a shortage for people that would have bought the damn thing no matter what. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:878225490] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>To me bringing up it is selling out means nothing. If it is selling over what the Wii U sold by the end of the year, then you'll have an argument that this was a good idea. Right now the shortages are not creating this conversation about the Switch that Nintendo desperately wants to happen. Most everyday people have already forgot that it even released. There's no sensation - there's merely a shortage for people that would have bought the damn thing no matter what.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 04/30/17 8:53:01 PM #24:	Darmik posted... l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted... Darmik posted... I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price. Sure is from my experience. It's been almost two months and I have never seen a Nintendo Switch in person, nor have I ever seen a webpage for any website selling it at standard price without the words "Out of stock" on it. Are you trying to buy one? Or just having a general look? I check the shelves every chance I get and frequent the webpages. --- Why Nidhogg 2 gotta be so ugly tho http://i.imgur.com/QiEb7.jpg <cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted [p:878225565] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>l33t_iRk3n_Rm33 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think the scalper explanation holds much water. It's not impossible to find one at the standard price.</quote> Sure is from my experience. It's been almost two months and I have never seen a Nintendo Switch in person, nor have I ever seen a webpage for any website selling it at standard price without the words "Out of stock" on it.</quote> Are you trying to buy one? Or just having a general look?</quote> I check the shelves every chance I get and frequent the webpages.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
S1nharvest 04/30/17 8:53:50 PM #25:	Doctor is talking out of his ass, with 1.1 mil BOtW sold, every ducking scalper must have bought Zelda too, I love how salty people are getting at Nintendo selling gang busters. Lol, it's all scalpers huh. --- All Hail King Ghidorah, the Monster Zero GT: KingxGeedorah - Psn: Sin_Ghidorah - http://i.imgur.com/k4Mc2.png <cite>S1nharvest posted [p:878225626] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>Doctor is talking out of his ass, with 1.1 mil BOtW sold, every ducking scalper must have bought Zelda too, I love how salty people are getting at Nintendo selling gang busters. Lol, it's all scalpers huh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
S1nharvest 04/30/17 8:54:54 PM #26:	wah_wah_wah posted... To me bringing up it is selling out means nothing. If it is selling over what the Wii U sold by the end of the year, then you'll have an argument that this was a good idea. Right now the shortages are not creating this conversation about the Switch that Nintendo desperately wants to happen. Most everyday people have already forgot that it even released. There's no sensation - there's merely a shortage for people that would have bought the damn thing no matter what. Mario kart 8 already best selling game of 2017 on amazon, stay salty --- All Hail King Ghidorah, the Monster Zero GT: KingxGeedorah - Psn: Sin_Ghidorah - http://i.imgur.com/k4Mc2.png <cite>S1nharvest posted [p:878225691] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>To me bringing up it is selling out means nothing. If it is selling over what the Wii U sold by the end of the year, then you'll have an argument that this was a good idea. Right now the shortages are not creating this conversation about the Switch that Nintendo desperately wants to happen. Most everyday people have already forgot that it even released. There's no sensation - there's merely a shortage for people that would have bought the damn thing no matter what.</quote> Mario kart 8 already best selling game of 2017 on amazon, stay salty</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 04/30/17 8:56:24 PM #27:	i'd love to have one, but my backlog is still fairly big since I was unable to play some games (work) I wanted to last year maybe christmas I can get one, hopefully a bundle or something --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:878225787] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>i'd love to have one, but my backlog is still fairly big since I was unable to play some games (work) I wanted to last year maybe christmas I can get one, hopefully a bundle or something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 8:58:01 PM #28:	900k in the launch month in America alone can't just be written off by scalpers and die hards though. That's already beating the Wii U and that released for the holiday season. If April is above 400-500k as well the Switch is selling extremely well for its launch window. We know Japan are lapping up each shipment and they're not exactly giving them small numbers to buy either. As I said at the very least their decision to launch in March has really paid off. Wii U launched in the holidays and couldn't manage these numbers. I find it unlikely that the momentum will die off like the Wii U did this year now. It's already past that window. Wii was in high demand for like its first year or two and was hard to find in shelves. How many people were pointing at scalpers back then I wonder? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878225887] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>900k in the launch month in America alone can't just be written off by scalpers and die hards though. That's already beating the Wii U and that released for the holiday season. If April is above 400-500k as well the Switch is selling extremely well for its launch window. We know Japan are lapping up each shipment and they're not exactly giving them small numbers to buy either. As I said at the very least their decision to launch in March has really paid off. Wii U launched in the holidays and couldn't manage these numbers. I find it unlikely that the momentum will die off like the Wii U did this year now. It's already past that window. Wii was in high demand for like its first year or two and was hard to find in shelves. How many people were pointing at scalpers back then I wonder?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/30/17 9:22:43 PM #29:	S1nharvest posted... wah_wah_wah posted... To me bringing up it is selling out means nothing. If it is selling over what the Wii U sold by the end of the year, then you'll have an argument that this was a good idea. Right now the shortages are not creating this conversation about the Switch that Nintendo desperately wants to happen. Most everyday people have already forgot that it even released. There's no sensation - there's merely a shortage for people that would have bought the damn thing no matter what. Mario kart 8 already best selling game of 2017 on amazon, stay salty Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:878227546] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>S1nharvest posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>To me bringing up it is selling out means nothing. If it is selling over what the Wii U sold by the end of the year, then you'll have an argument that this was a good idea. Right now the shortages are not creating this conversation about the Switch that Nintendo desperately wants to happen. Most everyday people have already forgot that it even released. There's no sensation - there's merely a shortage for people that would have bought the damn thing no matter what.</quote> Mario kart 8 already best selling game of 2017 on amazon, stay salty</quote> Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 9:26:49 PM #30:	wah_wah_wah posted... Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well. Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878227826] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well.</quote> Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/30/17 9:44:41 PM #31:	Darmik posted... wah_wah_wah posted... Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well. Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off. 3D World also sold in the millions too pretty early on. I think the Switch has potential to be a bigger seller than Wii U, but that's not really saying much. I don't really see it as a phenomenon like something like Wii was, where so many outside traditional Nintendo fanboyism and even outside of gaming in general suddenly found themselves talking about it. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:878229148] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well.</quote> Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off.</quote> 3D World also sold in the millions too pretty early on. I think the Switch has potential to be a bigger seller than Wii U, but that's not really saying much. I don't really see it as a phenomenon like something like Wii was, where so many outside traditional Nintendo fanboyism and even outside of gaming in general suddenly found themselves talking about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 9:49:03 PM #32:	wah_wah_wah posted... Darmik posted... wah_wah_wah posted... Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well. Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off. 3D World also sold in the millions too pretty early on. I think the Switch has potential to be a bigger seller than Wii U, but that's not really saying much. I don't really see it as a phenomenon like something like Wii was, where so many outside traditional Nintendo fanboyism and even outside of gaming in general suddenly found themselves talking about it. I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Wii ever again. 3D World was nearly a year after launch. The system seller for a long time was New Super Mario Bros. U which got overshadowed by NSMB2 on the 3DS. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878229451] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well.</quote> Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off.</quote> 3D World also sold in the millions too pretty early on. I think the Switch has potential to be a bigger seller than Wii U, but that's not really saying much. I don't really see it as a phenomenon like something like Wii was, where so many outside traditional Nintendo fanboyism and even outside of gaming in general suddenly found themselves talking about it.</quote> I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Wii ever again. 3D World was nearly a year after launch. The system seller for a long time was New Super Mario Bros. U which got overshadowed by NSMB2 on the 3DS.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/30/17 9:53:18 PM #33:	Darmik posted... wah_wah_wah posted... Darmik posted... wah_wah_wah posted... Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well. Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off. 3D World also sold in the millions too pretty early on. I think the Switch has potential to be a bigger seller than Wii U, but that's not really saying much. I don't really see it as a phenomenon like something like Wii was, where so many outside traditional Nintendo fanboyism and even outside of gaming in general suddenly found themselves talking about it. I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Wii ever again. 3D World was nearly a year after launch. The system seller for a long time was New Super Mario Bros. U which got overshadowed by NSMB2 on the 3DS. My point is you can have a high attach rate on a console that isn't selling that well. That a best selling game doesn't necessarily mean the overall situation is good. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:878229703] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>Nintendo software always sold well even when the consoles themselves were dumpster fires. Mario Kart 8 the first time sold 8 million which is bigger numbers than pretty much anything you'd find anywhere else. High attach rate isn't really a sign that the overall console situation is doing well.</quote> Sure. MK8 did a bit to boost Wii U sales. But the thing is it took the Wii U a while to have anything on that level and by then it was probably too late. Switch already has two games on that level two months in and I think it's paying off.</quote> 3D World also sold in the millions too pretty early on. I think the Switch has potential to be a bigger seller than Wii U, but that's not really saying much. I don't really see it as a phenomenon like something like Wii was, where so many outside traditional Nintendo fanboyism and even outside of gaming in general suddenly found themselves talking about it.</quote> I don't think we'll ever see anything like the Wii ever again. 3D World was nearly a year after launch. The system seller for a long time was New Super Mario Bros. U which got overshadowed by NSMB2 on the 3DS.</quote> My point is you can have a high attach rate on a console that isn't selling that well. That a best selling game doesn't necessarily mean the overall situation is good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 9:56:31 PM #34:	Looking it up it looks like Mario Kart 8 sold 1.2 million when it launched on Wii U in the US. I think that's pretty achievable for the Switch already. It might not hit it but I think it will come close. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878229901] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>Looking it up it looks like Mario Kart 8 sold 1.2 million when it launched on Wii U in the US. I think that's pretty achievable for the Switch already. It might not hit it but I think it will come close.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weAREtheB0RG 04/30/17 10:01:10 PM #35:	Darmik posted... Looking it up it looks like Mario Kart 8 sold 1.2 million when it launched on Wii U in the US. I think that's pretty achievable for the Switch already. It might not hit it but I think it will come close. Yeah, it could for sure. <cite>weAREtheB0RG posted [p:878230179] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Looking it up it looks like Mario Kart 8 sold 1.2 million when it launched on Wii U in the US. I think that's pretty achievable for the Switch already. It might not hit it but I think it will come close.</quote> Yeah, it could for sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alucard188 04/30/17 10:04:50 PM #36:	Darmik posted... I thought things would be chugging along just okay until the Christmas season. I thought it would be tough for them missing the Christmas period last year. But overall it seems to have worked out for the best. Releasing it this early allows it to fill the void and stagnation that resulted from the Wii U sales, and will allow a number of Triple-A titles to be released between now and Christmas. It'll be a hot item come Christmas time. --- Face it Cloud is a gaming icon and has appered in lots of games while mario has only appeared in 2 games sunshine and 64~xSlashbomBx <cite>Alucard188 posted [p:878230386] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I thought things would be chugging along just okay until the Christmas season. I thought it would be tough for them missing the Christmas period last year. But overall it seems to have worked out for the best. </quote> Releasing it this early allows it to fill the void and stagnation that resulted from the Wii U sales, and will allow a number of Triple-A titles to be released between now and Christmas. It'll be a hot item come Christmas time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 10:05:32 PM #37:	Darmik posted... 900k in the launch month in America alone can't just be written off by scalpers and die hards though. That's already beating the Wii U and that released for the holiday season. If April is above 400-500k as well the Switch is selling extremely well for its launch window. We know Japan are lapping up each shipment and they're not exactly giving them small numbers to buy either. As I said at the very least their decision to launch in March has really paid off. Wii U launched in the holidays and couldn't manage these numbers. I find it unlikely that the momentum will die off like the Wii U did this year now. It's already past that window. Wii was in high demand for like its first year or two and was hard to find in shelves. How many people were pointing at scalpers back then I wonder? The Wii U sold the exact same shit. 430k in two weeks vs 906k in a month. It can easily be explained by scalpers. The fact that you're in Australia and you're speaking on the US scalper market is pure ignorance. Zelda Switch sold more than the Switch, which S1 pointed. Why? Because there were 3 versions, many which people double and triple dipped on. I alone triple dipped. The rest went to scalpers who are still peddling their stuff even now. Nothing you're saying proves anything. It's all speculation because there's tons of factors involved that you're steady ignoring. It's not past that window at all. 6 weeks vs 8 weeks is not some huge difference. The demand from scalpers is obviously helping the perception of demand. Same shit happened with amiibos. It was sold out everywhere and being bought up as soon as it restocked till the second Nintendo fully flooded the market. Within a few months, stores were throwing them on clearance for $5. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878230432] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>900k in the launch month in America alone can't just be written off by scalpers and die hards though. That's already beating the Wii U and that released for the holiday season. If April is above 400-500k as well the Switch is selling extremely well for its launch window. We know Japan are lapping up each shipment and they're not exactly giving them small numbers to buy either. As I said at the very least their decision to launch in March has really paid off. Wii U launched in the holidays and couldn't manage these numbers. I find it unlikely that the momentum will die off like the Wii U did this year now. It's already past that window. Wii was in high demand for like its first year or two and was hard to find in shelves. How many people were pointing at scalpers back then I wonder?</quote> The Wii U sold the exact same shit. 430k in two weeks vs 906k in a month. It can easily be explained by scalpers. The fact that you're in Australia and you're speaking on the US scalper market is pure ignorance. Zelda Switch sold more than the Switch, which S1 pointed. Why? Because there were 3 versions, many which people double and triple dipped on. I alone triple dipped. The rest went to scalpers who are still peddling their stuff even now. Nothing you're saying proves anything. It's all speculation because there's tons of factors involved that you're steady ignoring. It's not past that window at all. 6 weeks vs 8 weeks is not some huge difference. The demand from scalpers is obviously helping the perception of demand. Same shit happened with amiibos. It was sold out everywhere and being bought up as soon as it restocked till the second Nintendo fully flooded the market. Within a few months, stores were throwing them on clearance for $5.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 10:11:02 PM #38:	DoctorVader posted... The Wii U sold the exact same s*. 430k in two weeks vs 906k in a month. No it didn't. Darmik posted... Just to compare the Wii U to the Switch launch wise for the US; Wii U; November 2012: 430k December 2012: 460k January 2013: 57k Switch; March 2017: 906k That's a lot of scalpers? Again Wii U had the holiday season advantage on top of this. Once that was gone sales dropped off a cliff. When are you expecting Switch sales to drop off a cliff? DoctorVader posted... It can easily be explained by scalpers. The fact that you're in Australia and you're speaking on the US scalper market is pure ignorance. Zelda Switch sold more than the Switch, which S1 pointed. Why? Because there were 3 versions, many which people double and triple dipped on. I alone triple dipped. The rest went to scalpers who are still peddling their stuff even now. How much of the 906k are scalpers then? How much of April's sales will be scalpers on top of this? What sort of number are you expecting in the April NPD? DoctorVader posted... It's not past that window at all. 6 weeks vs 8 weeks is not some huge difference. The demand from scalpers is obviously helping the perception of demand. Same s* happened with amiibos. It was sold out everywhere and being bought up as soon as it restocked till the second Nintendo fully flooded the market. Within a few months, stores were throwing them on clearance for $5. Amiibos are significantly cheaper. Also the Animal Crossing line didn't sell as well as the Smash Bros line. The toys to life industry fell off a cliff in general after selling well with Skylanders for years. It's not really comparable. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878230778] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>The Wii U sold the exact same s*. 430k in two weeks vs 906k in a month.</quote> No it didn't. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Just to compare the Wii U to the Switch launch wise for the US; Wii U; November 2012: 430k December 2012: 460k January 2013: 57k Switch; March 2017: 906k That's a lot of scalpers?</quote> Again Wii U had the holiday season advantage on top of this. Once that was gone sales dropped off a cliff. When are you expecting Switch sales to drop off a cliff? <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>It can easily be explained by scalpers. The fact that you're in Australia and you're speaking on the US scalper market is pure ignorance. Zelda Switch sold more than the Switch, which S1 pointed. Why? Because there were 3 versions, many which people double and triple dipped on. I alone triple dipped. The rest went to scalpers who are still peddling their stuff even now.</quote> How much of the 906k are scalpers then? How much of April's sales will be scalpers on top of this? What sort of number are you expecting in the April NPD? <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>It's not past that window at all. 6 weeks vs 8 weeks is not some huge difference. The demand from scalpers is obviously helping the perception of demand. Same s* happened with amiibos. It was sold out everywhere and being bought up as soon as it restocked till the second Nintendo fully flooded the market. Within a few months, stores were throwing them on clearance for $5.</quote> Amiibos are significantly cheaper. Also the Animal Crossing line didn't sell as well as the Smash Bros line. The toys to life industry fell off a cliff in general after selling well with Skylanders for years. It's not really comparable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/30/17 10:15:50 PM #39:	I think it's generally a good idea for Nintendo to do things during non-competitive times. I'm fine with them skipping E3. In a way it's pretty dumb to reveal stuff at E3 and compete with a thousand other stories when you can drop information off in April when game news is non-existent. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:878231088] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>I think it's generally a good idea for Nintendo to do things during non-competitive times. I'm fine with them skipping E3. In a way it's pretty dumb to reveal stuff at E3 and compete with a thousand other stories when you can drop information off in April when game news is non-existent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 10:17:19 PM #40:	wah_wah_wah posted... I think it's generally a good idea for Nintendo to do things during non-competitive times. I'm fine with them skipping E3. In a way it's pretty dumb to reveal stuff at E3 and compete with a thousand other stories when you can drop information off in April when game news is non-existent. They're not skipping E3. They just don't have a live stage conference. They still have a digital event that serves the same purpose and they'll be on the showfloor with Treehouse streams. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878231190] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's generally a good idea for Nintendo to do things during non-competitive times. I'm fine with them skipping E3. In a way it's pretty dumb to reveal stuff at E3 and compete with a thousand other stories when you can drop information off in April when game news is non-existent.</quote> They're not skipping E3. They just don't have a live stage conference. They still have a digital event that serves the same purpose and they'll be on the showfloor with Treehouse streams.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wah_wah_wah 04/30/17 10:18:25 PM #41:	Darmik posted... wah_wah_wah posted... I think it's generally a good idea for Nintendo to do things during non-competitive times. I'm fine with them skipping E3. In a way it's pretty dumb to reveal stuff at E3 and compete with a thousand other stories when you can drop information off in April when game news is non-existent. They're not skipping E3. They just don't have a live stage conference. They still have a digital event that serves the same purpose and they'll be on the showfloor with Treehouse streams. Yeah they shouldn't even do that because what's the point. Just do it like a month before E3. E3 is one of those traditions that increasingly doesn't make sense. <cite>wah_wah_wah posted [p:878231267] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wah_wah_wah posted...</cite> <quote>I think it's generally a good idea for Nintendo to do things during non-competitive times. I'm fine with them skipping E3. In a way it's pretty dumb to reveal stuff at E3 and compete with a thousand other stories when you can drop information off in April when game news is non-existent.</quote> They're not skipping E3. They just don't have a live stage conference. They still have a digital event that serves the same purpose and they'll be on the showfloor with Treehouse streams.</quote> Yeah they shouldn't even do that because what's the point. Just do it like a month before E3. E3 is one of those traditions that increasingly doesn't make sense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 10:28:24 PM #42:	Darmik posted... No it didn't. You're right. The Wii sold at a rate of 36k/day in November and 15k in December. The Switch sold 31k/day for a month and that's all the data we have. It's not much different. Darmik posted... How much of the 906k are scalpers then? How much of April's sales will be scalpers on top of this? What sort of number are you expecting in the April NPD? I've already said you can't possibly sit in Australia and judge the US market when you asked a bunch of questions pretty much clarifying that you don't know shit about the scalper market here. There's NOTHING definitive saying the holidays are gonna definitively do better because all other consoles have been released in November. My point was that there's enough of a Nintendo fanbase along with scalpers to give the perception that everything is fine because of fucking course they're gonna buy. Scalpers know Nintendo is a money maker. Just hang out on CAG for a bit and you'll see. Darmik posted... Amiibos are significantly cheaper. Also the Animal Crossing line didn't sell as well as the Smash Bros line. The toys to life industry fell off a cliff in general after selling well with Skylanders for years. It's not really comparable. No. The new Zelda amiibo are once again extremely hard to find. The AC amiibo came out right when they started flooding the amiibo market, including the AC ones. They eventually realized shit ain't selling because stores were clearancing all amiibo, not just AC ones and now we're back to the same shit because Nintendo cut supply. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878231908] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>No it didn't.</quote> You're right. The Wii sold at a rate of 36k/day in November and 15k in December. The Switch sold 31k/day for a month and that's all the data we have. It's not much different. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>How much of the 906k are scalpers then? How much of April's sales will be scalpers on top of this? What sort of number are you expecting in the April NPD?</quote> I've already said you can't possibly sit in Australia and judge the US market when you asked a bunch of questions pretty much clarifying that you don't know shit about the scalper market here. There's NOTHING definitive saying the holidays are gonna definitively do better because all other consoles have been released in November. My point was that there's enough of a Nintendo fanbase along with scalpers to give the perception that everything is fine because of fucking course they're gonna buy. Scalpers know Nintendo is a money maker. Just hang out on CAG for a bit and you'll see. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Amiibos are significantly cheaper. Also the Animal Crossing line didn't sell as well as the Smash Bros line. The toys to life industry fell off a cliff in general after selling well with Skylanders for years. It's not really comparable.</quote> No. The new Zelda amiibo are once again extremely hard to find. The AC amiibo came out right when they started flooding the amiibo market, including the AC ones. They eventually realized shit ain't selling because stores were clearancing all amiibo, not just AC ones and now we're back to the same shit because Nintendo cut supply.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 04/30/17 10:33:59 PM #43:	Mk8 online is super fun and you best believe splatoon 2 is gonna be similar. It's the first and only online mp "shooter"(since it's much more than that) for switch. Plus it carries with it a reputation of being fun and even having a presence in competitive tournaments. For the moment, I'm playing Lego city undercover for my sp fun and mk8 online for my mp needs. All portable. Haven't touched Zelda in a while. I beat it but still have a lot of stuff to do. Decided to shelve it and come back later. But by the time I'll have had my fill of what I got for the moment, splatoon 2 will be out --- http://i.imgur.com/23CCcZB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/32mwCo1.jpg http://i.imgur.com/oqklqKC.jpg <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:878232258] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>Mk8 online is super fun and you best believe splatoon 2 is gonna be similar. It's the first and only online mp "shooter"(since it's much more than that) for switch. Plus it carries with it a reputation of being fun and even having a presence in competitive tournaments. For the moment, I'm playing Lego city undercover for my sp fun and mk8 online for my mp needs. All portable. Haven't touched Zelda in a while. I beat it but still have a lot of stuff to do. Decided to shelve it and come back later. But by the time I'll have had my fill of what I got for the moment, splatoon 2 will be out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 10:37:50 PM #44:	DoctorVader posted... You're right. The Wii sold at a rate of 36k/day in November and 15k in December. The Switch sold 31k/day for a month and that's all the data we have. It's not much different. The Switch has already outsold the holiday period for Wii U in March alone. It's still continuing to sell out. So yeah it is different unless they only have like 50k Switch units for April. DoctorVader posted... I've already said you can't possibly sit in Australia and judge the US market when you asked a bunch of questions pretty much clarifying that you don't know s* about the scalper market here. There's NOTHING definitive saying the holidays are gonna definitively do better because all other consoles have been released in November. My point was that there's enough of a Nintendo fanbase along with scalpers to give the perception that everything is fine because of fing course they're gonna buy. Scalpers know Nintendo is a money maker. Just hang out on CAG for a bit and you'll see. You didn't answer my question. You're telling me it's scalpers so I'm asking you how much of the sales do you actually believe to be scalpers? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878232471] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>You're right. The Wii sold at a rate of 36k/day in November and 15k in December. The Switch sold 31k/day for a month and that's all the data we have. It's not much different.</quote> The Switch has already outsold the holiday period for Wii U in March alone. It's still continuing to sell out. So yeah it is different unless they only have like 50k Switch units for April. <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>I've already said you can't possibly sit in Australia and judge the US market when you asked a bunch of questions pretty much clarifying that you don't know s about the scalper market here. There's NOTHING definitive saying the holidays are gonna definitively do better because all other consoles have been released in November. My point was that there's enough of a Nintendo fanbase along with scalpers to give the perception that everything is fine because of f*ing course they're gonna buy. Scalpers know Nintendo is a money maker. Just hang out on CAG for a bit and you'll see.</quote> You didn't answer my question. You're telling me it's scalpers so I'm asking you how much of the sales do you actually believe to be scalpers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoctorVader 04/30/17 10:53:01 PM #45:	Darmik posted... The Switch has already outsold the holiday period for Wii U in March alone. It's still continuing to sell out. So yeah it is different unless they only have like 50k Switch units for April. In the US, but not overall which is why I keep adding that scalpers are a much bigger problem this time and it's a known thing with Nintendo fans, so some slightly different numbers doesn't imply much because there are different factors involved. Denying scalping is not a huge issue with Nintendo is being delusional, especially since you're not from the US. Also, for all you know, there were in fact 50k units in April seeing as it just got restocked on April 28 and had nothing before it besides scraps. Darmik posted... You didn't answer my question. You're telling me it's scalpers so I'm asking you how much of the sales do you actually believe to be scalpers? A large enough amount that it's a valid claim. Just hang out on r/NintendoSwitch or CAG and you'll see stories of obvious scalpers bringing 8 or 9 people to buy the entire stock at a time and online sellers having 20+ Switches to sell or even the Switch board here where there's a topic every few days bragging about how much money is being made. Shit like that obviously affects things when there's a general perception that started about 3 years ago that Nintendo products = money makers. It's like I'm sitting here going "yeah, I follow baseball really closely" and you coming in and going "The Lakers are gonna beat the Yankees this year" and me facepalming. At no point have I even said you're 100% wrong in the stuff you're seeing. Just that, let's wait and see. --- It all just disappears, doesn't it? Everything you are, gone in a moment, like breath on a mirror. - The Doctor <cite>DoctorVader posted [p:878233579] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>The Switch has already outsold the holiday period for Wii U in March alone. It's still continuing to sell out. So yeah it is different unless they only have like 50k Switch units for April. </quote> In the US, but not overall which is why I keep adding that scalpers are a much bigger problem this time and it's a known thing with Nintendo fans, so some slightly different numbers doesn't imply much because there are different factors involved. Denying scalping is not a huge issue with Nintendo is being delusional, especially since you're not from the US. Also, for all you know, there were in fact 50k units in April seeing as it just got restocked on April 28 and had nothing before it besides scraps. <cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>You didn't answer my question. You're telling me it's scalpers so I'm asking you how much of the sales do you actually believe to be scalpers?</quote> A large enough amount that it's a valid claim. Just hang out on r/NintendoSwitch or CAG and you'll see stories of obvious scalpers bringing 8 or 9 people to buy the entire stock at a time and online sellers having 20+ Switches to sell or even the Switch board here where there's a topic every few days bragging about how much money is being made. Shit like that obviously affects things when there's a general perception that started about 3 years ago that Nintendo products = money makers. It's like I'm sitting here going "yeah, I follow baseball really closely" and you coming in and going "The Lakers are gonna beat the Yankees this year" and me facepalming. At no point have I even said you're 100% wrong in the stuff you're seeing. Just that, let's wait and see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 04/30/17 10:54:29 PM #46:	weAREtheB0RG posted... Virus731 posted... I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first. No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld. Why would you just want a tinier, worse version of a game? <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:878233672] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>weAREtheB0RG posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Virus731 posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first.</quote> No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld.</quote> Why would you just want a tinier, worse version of a game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 11:00:46 PM #47:	DoctorVader posted... In the US, but not overall which is why I keep adding that scalpers are a much bigger problem this time and it's a known thing with Nintendo fans, so some slightly different numbers doesn't imply much because there are different factors involved. Denying scalping is not a huge issue with Nintendo is being delusional, especially since you're not from the US. Also, for all you know, there were in fact 50k units in April seeing as it just got restocked on April 28 and had nothing before it besides scraps. We'll know the figures in a week or so for April in the US. What if it's significantly more than 50k? Presumably scalping was an issue in the first month and they sold over 900k. What's the ballpark figure for when it's not just scalpers buying the thing? What's your expectation for 2017? Were you unimpressed by the PS4 launch because of scalpers too? DoctorVader posted... A large enough amount that it's a valid claim. Just hang out on r/NintendoSwitch or CAG and you'll see stories of obvious scalpers bringing 8 or 9 people to buy the entire stock at a time and online sellers having 20+ Switches to sell or even the Switch board here where there's a topic every few days bragging about how much money is being made. s* like that obviously affects things when there's a general perception that started about 3 years ago that Nintendo products = money makers .It's like I'm sitting here going "yeah, I follow baseball really closely" and you coming in and going "The Lakers are gonna beat the Yankees this year" and me facepalming. What claim have I actually made in this topic that is making you facepalm? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878234075] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>In the US, but not overall which is why I keep adding that scalpers are a much bigger problem this time and it's a known thing with Nintendo fans, so some slightly different numbers doesn't imply much because there are different factors involved. Denying scalping is not a huge issue with Nintendo is being delusional, especially since you're not from the US. Also, for all you know, there were in fact 50k units in April seeing as it just got restocked on April 28 and had nothing before it besides scraps.</quote> We'll know the figures in a week or so for April in the US. What if it's significantly more than 50k? Presumably scalping was an issue in the first month and they sold over 900k. What's the ballpark figure for when it's not just scalpers buying the thing? What's your expectation for 2017? Were you unimpressed by the PS4 launch because of scalpers too? <cite>DoctorVader posted...</cite> <quote>A large enough amount that it's a valid claim. Just hang out on r/NintendoSwitch or CAG and you'll see stories of obvious scalpers bringing 8 or 9 people to buy the entire stock at a time and online sellers having 20+ Switches to sell or even the Switch board here where there's a topic every few days bragging about how much money is being made. s* like that obviously affects things when there's a general perception that started about 3 years ago that Nintendo products = money makers .It's like I'm sitting here going "yeah, I follow baseball really closely" and you coming in and going "The Lakers are gonna beat the Yankees this year" and me facepalming. </quote> What claim have I actually made in this topic that is making you facepalm?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
weAREtheB0RG 04/30/17 11:05:14 PM #48:	gafemaqs posted... weAREtheB0RG posted... Virus731 posted... I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first. No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld. Why would you just want a tinier, worse version of a game? Why would you want to be tethered to a single TV all the time? <cite>weAREtheB0RG posted [p:878234355] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weAREtheB0RG posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Virus731 posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first.</quote> No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld.</quote> Why would you just want a tinier, worse version of a game?</quote> Why would you want to be tethered to a single TV all the time?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 04/30/17 11:10:17 PM #49:	Japan sales are quite interesting so far. It's a hit there for sure. http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/switch_zpsks65lnkb.jpg Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon 2 will skyrocket the Switch over there. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:878234675] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote>Japan sales are quite interesting so far. It's a hit there for sure. http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o763/hiska-kun/switch_zpsks65lnkb.jpg Mario Kart 8 and Splatoon 2 will skyrocket the Switch over there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gafemaqs 05/01/17 3:23:42 AM #50:	weAREtheB0RG posted... gafemaqs posted... weAREtheB0RG posted... Virus731 posted... I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first. No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld. Why would you just want a tinier, worse version of a game? Why would you want to be tethered to a single TV all the time? ...because it's better than the tinier, worse version? <cite>gafemaqs posted [p:878244252] in Nintendo r... [t:75297282]...</cite> <quote><cite>weAREtheB0RG posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gafemaqs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>weAREtheB0RG posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Virus731 posted...</cite> <quote>I think I'm going to buy one in a few weeks, but I need to buy a proper TV first.</quote> No you don't, the Switch works fine as a handheld.</quote> Why would you just want a tinier, worse version of a game?</quote> Why would you want to be tethered to a single TV all the time?</quote> ...because it's better than the tinier, worse version?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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