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SGT_Conti
05/01/17 9:33:25 PM
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My god that was a disastrous expansion attempt.
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thompsontalker7
05/01/17 9:35:24 PM
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I love Target

It's like Wal-Mart minus the trash people/atmosphere

What went wrong in Canada? Too much competition?
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pres_madagascar
05/01/17 9:35:45 PM
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Gamer99z
05/01/17 9:36:26 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohXYR69UhxI


Interesting watch if anyone can spare 15 minutes.

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SGT_Conti
05/01/17 9:39:03 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
I love Target

It's like Wal-Mart minus the trash people/atmosphere

What went wrong in Canada? Too much competition?

lol no our competition here sucks

They expanded way too quickly, didn't have enough stock for their shelves, advertised a US experience so customers went in expecting US prices, and really just had to fight their own hype. A lot of Canadians already shopped in Target in the US and what we got here just wasn't it. They also lacked a Canadian site for online sales or even to check stock. When I tried using it, I couldn't even see what each store had. It had a "Featured" section of items and that was it.
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Frostshock
05/01/17 9:40:18 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
I love Target

It's like Wal-Mart minus the trash people/atmosphere

What went wrong in Canada? Too much competition?


A complete supply chain collapse. Store was empty, yo.

Based on a blog post I read, Target Canada was using a new inventory management system which was either missing tons of data on products or had outright incorrect data.

Edit: And POS failures too apparently. And management not pulling the plug to deal with the problems before actually opening the stores.

The article I read was here, I can't attest to how accurate it is but it's very interesting:

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/the-last-days-of-target-canada/
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thompsontalker7
05/01/17 9:49:02 PM
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Smh

The upper management is run by idiots

I wonder if they'll ever try again
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KK_the_Slider
05/01/17 9:52:08 PM
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They had nothing on the shelves and there was no employees around ever.
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SGT_Conti
05/01/17 9:53:46 PM
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They could have possibly been successful if they launched a test store in Toronto or something and examined market trends to see where to go from there, but opening almost 200 right off the bat was just...poor planning.

I also knew someone who left their job at another retail store to work at Target. They weren't there very long and then found out Target was leaving Canada. On the news. Not even from their boss, because their boss didn't know either until they saw it on the news, apparently. It was just a total clusterfuck.
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tripZ504
05/01/17 9:54:50 PM
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Walmart was cheaper and had more stock.
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Zack_Attackv1
05/01/17 9:56:57 PM
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SGT_Conti
05/01/17 9:57:25 PM
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From that video posted earlier:
https://youtu.be/ohXYR69UhxI?t=492

Sales went up in the malls after Target closed >_>
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KK_the_Slider
05/01/17 9:57:33 PM
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SGT_Conti posted...
They could have possibly been successful if they launched a test store in Toronto or something and examined market trends to see where to go from there, but opening almost 200 right off the bat was just...poor planning.

I also knew someone who left their job at another retail store to work at Target. They weren't there very long and then found out Target was leaving Canada. On the news. Not even from their boss, because their boss didn't know either until they saw it on the news, apparently. It was just a total clusterfuck.

That reminds me of when all the Future Shops just closed one day. People thought that had work that day, showed up and saw it was closed down.
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EyeWontBeFooled
05/01/17 10:00:13 PM
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KK_the_Slider posted...
SGT_Conti posted...
They could have possibly been successful if they launched a test store in Toronto or something and examined market trends to see where to go from there, but opening almost 200 right off the bat was just...poor planning.

I also knew someone who left their job at another retail store to work at Target. They weren't there very long and then found out Target was leaving Canada. On the news. Not even from their boss, because their boss didn't know either until they saw it on the news, apparently. It was just a total clusterfuck.

That reminds me of when all the Future Shops just closed one day. People thought that had work that day, showed up and saw it was closed down.

That was a complete shitshow, too.

Hey, remember when the Rosalina amiibo was exclusive to Target!? That meant Canada, as well as the US! That was the worst of all.
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Ultima Dragon
05/01/17 10:02:34 PM
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I wonder what's going to happen with more and more stores closing down. Online shopping is taking a pretty big piece of the pie as well. So you're left with all these sad malls with like half the shops closed, buildings that are vacant and no companies really left to fill them.
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NES4EVER
05/01/17 10:06:41 PM
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There was a really good article a year or two ago talking about the collapse of Target in Canada.

It basically boiled down to a supply chain system that was rushed to implementation with nowhere near enough bodies to properly create it. Prices and product weren't too much different than what WalMart sold, and the shelves were almost always empty.

That combined with their launch across the country, picking up former Zellers locations, and having way too big a footprint out the gate. A lot of American retailers coming into Canada will open a couple test stores in Vancouver, Toronto or Calgary, and then slowly expand to other urban centres. Target swooped in and bought/leased all the former Zellers locations and tried to open like a hundred stores within a few months.
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SGT_Conti
05/01/17 10:09:11 PM
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Ultima Dragon posted...
I wonder what's going to happen with more and more stores closing down. Online shopping is taking a pretty big piece of the pie as well. So you're left with all these sad malls with like half the shops closed, buildings that are vacant and no companies really left to fill them.

I imagine if it ever got to that point, new kinds of stores would fill those areas. An acquaintance of mine just opened up a VR arcade, and such locations would get increasingly affordable if plaza owners were desperate to fill up empty buildings with anything at all. Those real life escape rooms also seem to be picking up popularity. In short, locations would be less about selling products and more about selling experiences that you can't take or replicate at home.
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Bio1590
05/01/17 10:12:41 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Smh

The upper management is run by idiots

I wonder if they'll ever try again

It cost them like a billion dollars and lots of people their jobs. I doubt it.
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thompsontalker7
05/01/17 10:18:27 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Smh

The upper management is run by idiots

I wonder if they'll ever try again

It cost them like a billion dollars and lots of people their jobs. I doubt it.


They still have billions in the bank; all they have to do is concentrate their efforts and expand slowly and maybe they can possibly repair their name up there.

Personally though Target has always came in clutch when it came to stock; got my Majora's Mask XL and Nintendo Switch there with no effort.
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NES4EVER
05/01/17 10:20:04 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Smh

The upper management is run by idiots

I wonder if they'll ever try again

It cost them like a billion dollars and lots of people their jobs. I doubt it.


They still have billions in the bank; all they have to do is concentrate their efforts and expand slowly and maybe they can possibly repair their name up there.

Personally though Target has always came in clutch when it came to stock; got my Majora's Mask XL and Nintendo Switch there with no effort.


Nah their brand is pretty tarnished in Canada. Everyone I knew even mocked their liquidation when the stores were closing because they couldn't even do that right.
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SGT_Conti
05/01/17 10:22:58 PM
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NES4EVER posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Smh

The upper management is run by idiots

I wonder if they'll ever try again

It cost them like a billion dollars and lots of people their jobs. I doubt it.


They still have billions in the bank; all they have to do is concentrate their efforts and expand slowly and maybe they can possibly repair their name up there.

Personally though Target has always came in clutch when it came to stock; got my Majora's Mask XL and Nintendo Switch there with no effort.


Nah their brand is pretty tarnished in Canada. Everyone I knew even mocked their liquidation when the stores were closing because they couldn't even do that right.

To be fair, Target wasn't in charge of liquidation sales, right? I remember reading that stuff was handled by the same people who did Zellers' liquidation.
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thompsontalker7
05/01/17 10:25:37 PM
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Maybe Canadians are just known to hold grudges
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Bio1590
05/01/17 10:45:27 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Maybe Canadians are just known to hold grudges

To Target? Yeah.
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Bio1590
05/01/17 10:57:58 PM
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thompsontalker7 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
thompsontalker7 posted...
Smh

The upper management is run by idiots

I wonder if they'll ever try again

It cost them like a billion dollars and lots of people their jobs. I doubt it.


They still have billions in the bank; all they have to do is concentrate their efforts and expand slowly and maybe they can possibly repair their name up there.

Personally though Target has always came in clutch when it came to stock; got my Majora's Mask XL and Nintendo Switch there with no effort.

They're having enough trouble in the US alone right now, the last thing they need to do is attempt to reenter a market they completely don't understand.

And I was wrong, it was over a $5.4 billion hit.
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