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mach25687 05/08/17 9:11:26 AM #1:	Always wonder how hard is it for them to get a job. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:878691149] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Always wonder how hard is it for them to get a job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/08/17 9:13:06 AM #2:	Extremely --- Oda break tracker 2017- 3 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:878691196] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Extremely</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dblade3k 05/08/17 9:13:16 AM #3:	Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO. --- Hmm... <cite>Dblade3k posted [p:878691201] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SideshowBob311 05/08/17 9:13:52 AM #4:	Dblade3k posted... Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. --- "Whether or not you can handle it, you have just heard another statement of the TRUTH." [WoT] - [Evil Republican] <cite>SideshowBob311 posted [p:878691226] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote>Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO.</quote> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dblade3k 05/08/17 9:14:24 AM #5:	SideshowBob311 posted... Dblade3k posted... Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Shrug --- Hmm... <cite>Dblade3k posted [p:878691244] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote>Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO.</quote> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.</quote> Shrug</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 05/08/17 9:14:50 AM #6:	It definitely presents an obstacle, but there is a whole list of companies who hire felons, and many prisons also help inmates to learn a trade while doing their time. Here in Florida we have an agency that actually puts them to work doing anything from embroidery to building prescription glasses. My company uses them for printing services. After they get out, they have several years of work experience in their field. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8kjZU.jpg <cite>eston posted [p:878691256] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>It definitely presents an obstacle, but there is a whole list of companies who hire felons, and many prisons also help inmates to learn a trade while doing their time. Here in Florida we have an agency that actually puts them to work doing anything from embroidery to building prescription glasses. My company uses them for printing services. After they get out, they have several years of work experience in their field.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 05/08/17 9:15:01 AM #7:	Dblade3k posted... SideshowBob311 posted... Dblade3k posted... Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Shrug Guessing you got one. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:878691262] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote>Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO.</quote> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.</quote> Shrug</quote> Guessing you got one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 05/08/17 9:15:01 AM #8:	Depends on what they want to do. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:878691263] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Depends on what they want to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 05/08/17 9:15:21 AM #10:	whitelytning posted... Depends on what they want to do. Any job. --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:878691283] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>whitelytning posted...</cite> <quote>Depends on what they want to do.</quote> Any job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dblade3k 05/08/17 9:15:30 AM #11:	mach25687 posted... Dblade3k posted... SideshowBob311 posted... Dblade3k posted... Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Shrug Guessing you got one. No sir. Got a clean record. --- Hmm... <cite>Dblade3k posted [p:878691286] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>mach25687 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SideshowBob311 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote>Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO.</quote> That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.</quote> Shrug</quote> Guessing you got one.</quote> No sir. Got a clean record.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 05/08/17 9:16:31 AM #12:	whitelytning posted... Depends on what they want to do. Not really, having a felony completely restricts you from certain places, so it depends more on what they CAN do --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:878691335] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>whitelytning posted...</cite> <quote>Depends on what they want to do.</quote> Not really, having a felony completely restricts you from certain places, so it depends more on what they CAN do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/08/17 9:18:34 AM #13:	Much less so if you're white than not. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:878691415] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Much less so if you're white than not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 05/08/17 12:19:16 PM #14:	Kineth posted... Much less so if you're white than not. Damn --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:878699675] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Much less so if you're white than not.</quote> Damn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/08/17 12:25:15 PM #15:	My friend got arrested in a big bust in 2011, had his picture in the news and was labeled as the "gang leader". He spent 3 years in jail and pled out, just got off probation a month ago. He got a job like two weeks after release, been promoted to manager now too. It's hard on average, but it depends. If you're skilled you can still find work. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:878700014] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>My friend got arrested in a big bust in 2011, had his picture in the news and was labeled as the "gang leader". He spent 3 years in jail and pled out, just got off probation a month ago. He got a job like two weeks after release, been promoted to manager now too. It's hard on average, but it depends. If you're skilled you can still find work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Laserion 05/08/17 12:27:42 PM #16:	Dblade3k posted... Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO. Salami shaving scheme (Superman III/Office Space penny fractions trick) is non-violent. Would you hire into your company someone who went to jail for that? --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". <cite>Laserion posted [p:878700141] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote>Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO.</quote> Salami shaving scheme (Superman III/Office Space penny fractions trick) is non-violent. Would you hire into your company someone who went to jail for that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KILBOTz 05/08/17 12:54:02 PM #17:	if you have highly valuable and marketable skills (CEO, athlete, actor, etc), it really doesn't matter. if you have decently valuable and marketable skills (college education from a decent school with a good major), it is a definite factor but doesn't totally stop you. if you lack valuable and marketable skills or the your skills are on the low end, its life on hard mode. --- http://i.imgur.com/O3syCWD.gif http://i.imgur.com/k3YiBdG.gif <cite>KILBOTz posted [p:878701570] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>if you have highly valuable and marketable skills (CEO, athlete, actor, etc), it really doesn't matter. if you have decently valuable and marketable skills (college education from a decent school with a good major), it is a definite factor but doesn't totally stop you. if you lack valuable and marketable skills or the your skills are on the low end, its life on hard mode.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mach25687 05/08/17 12:55:46 PM #18:	Fony posted... My friend got arrested in a big bust in 2011, had his picture in the news and was labeled as the "gang leader". He spent 3 years in jail and pled out, just got off probation a month ago. He got a job like two weeks after release, been promoted to manager now too. It's hard on average, but it depends. If you're skilled you can still find work. So what does he do? --- Best damn game about Ninja http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/ninjagolf/ninjagolf-flashgame.php <cite>mach25687 posted [p:878701660] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fony posted...</cite> <quote>My friend got arrested in a big bust in 2011, had his picture in the news and was labeled as the "gang leader". He spent 3 years in jail and pled out, just got off probation a month ago. He got a job like two weeks after release, been promoted to manager now too. It's hard on average, but it depends. If you're skilled you can still find work.</quote> So what does he do?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solid Snake07 05/08/17 1:03:05 PM #20:	depends if you look and have the demeanor of an ex con or felon. face to face interaction is gonna be key --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:878702069] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>depends if you look and have the demeanor of an ex con or felon. face to face interaction is gonna be key</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/08/17 1:05:04 PM #21:	fenderbender321 posted... Why don't we want felons to have jobs? Is it because we want them to go back to committing felonies? What do we do with them? There's usually a line for jobs and most companies prefer the person with a clean record. Might not be what some consider fair but it's a cold hard truth. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 3 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:878702179] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Why don't we want felons to have jobs? Is it because we want them to go back to committing felonies? What do we do with them?</quote> There's usually a line for jobs and most companies prefer the person with a clean record. Might not be what some consider fair but it's a cold hard truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PoopPotato 05/08/17 1:26:09 PM #23:	My wife works probation and parole. Part of her job is to help these people find work after prison. Most end up working in the kitchens at higher end restaurants or construction --- http://i.minus.com/i5EWBMXTN4ERv.gif <cite>PoopPotato posted [p:878703315] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>My wife works probation and parole. Part of her job is to help these people find work after prison. Most end up working in the kitchens at higher end restaurants or construction</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MangaFan462 05/08/17 1:27:50 PM #24:	Kineth posted... Much less so if you're white than not. Much harder if your a white male --- Posted using GameFlux https://i.imgur.com/Il34cSX.jpg / https://i.redd.it/zwfbqetu2b8y.jpg <cite>MangaFan462 posted [p:878703412] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Much less so if you're white than not.</quote> Much harder if your a white male</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green butter 05/08/17 1:30:00 PM #25:	if you are a felon you will never work a white collar job for the rest of your life if you are a felon with a violent crime on your record, you will work the lowest of the low jobs until you reoffend and get back into the system --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>green butter posted [p:878703524] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>if you are a felon you will never work a white collar job for the rest of your life if you are a felon with a violent crime on your record, you will work the lowest of the low jobs until you reoffend and get back into the system</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fire_bolt 05/08/17 1:33:29 PM #27:	As a white guy with a violent felony on record, it's only a problem if your pride stops you from working shit jobs. Currently going to school full time for IT stuff and working full time at a recycling plant literally sorting garbage. It sucks, but it pays the bills. My lil bro is also a non-violent felon and he currently has a good factory job making $15/hr. Started off in a foundry doing shit work and moved up to a floor manager position in 2 years because his work ethic is solid AF now that he's clean. Only education is a GED. He's gonna be ok --- If her hips don't break, you didn't "carry" hard enough" -SpunkySix <cite>fire_bolt posted [p:878703693] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>As a white guy with a violent felony on record, it's only a problem if your pride stops you from working shit jobs. Currently going to school full time for IT stuff and working full time at a recycling plant literally sorting garbage. It sucks, but it pays the bills. My lil bro is also a non-violent felon and he currently has a good factory job making $15/hr. Started off in a foundry doing shit work and moved up to a floor manager position in 2 years because his work ethic is solid AF now that he's clean. Only education is a GED. He's gonna be ok</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
southcoast09 05/08/17 1:34:16 PM #28:	Dblade3k posted... Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO. Theft? --- Donald Trump 2020! "... and when you accept Pepe into your heart, you will truly be saved and can dwell in the house of Kek." Malik Obama <cite>southcoast09 posted [p:878703731] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dblade3k posted...</cite> <quote>Non-Violent felonies should be completely overlooked IMO.</quote> Theft?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deupd_u 05/08/17 1:35:59 PM #29:	green butter posted... if you are a felon you will never work a white collar job for the rest of your life I don't know about that. I had a speaker come to my college who spent a year in prison for fraud (something about over valuing assets in a bank's portfolio he managed), and he still works in the financial industry. --- Snipers don't shoot at paper, they shoot watermelons. http://i.imgur.com/jo511lG.jpg <cite>deupd_u posted [p:878703831] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>green butter posted...</cite> <quote>if you are a felon you will never work a white collar job for the rest of your life</quote> I don't know about that. I had a speaker come to my college who spent a year in prison for fraud (something about over valuing assets in a bank's portfolio he managed), and he still works in the financial industry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/08/17 1:36:55 PM #30:	fire_bolt posted... As a white guy with a violent felony on record, it's only a problem if your pride stops you from working shit jobs. Currently going to school full time for IT stuff and working full time at a recycling plant literally sorting garbage. It sucks, but it pays the bills. Why are you even bothering with school though, nobody gonna hire you in IT with a felony record. It's already a fierce competitive market to get your foot in the door as it is. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 3 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:878703877] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>fire_bolt posted...</cite> <quote>As a white guy with a violent felony on record, it's only a problem if your pride stops you from working shit jobs. Currently going to school full time for IT stuff and working full time at a recycling plant literally sorting garbage. It sucks, but it pays the bills.</quote> Why are you even bothering with school though, nobody gonna hire you in IT with a felony record. It's already a fierce competitive market to get your foot in the door as it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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voldothegr8 05/08/17 1:41:39 PM #32:	fenderbender321 posted... Crimes are things that have already happened. Not things that are going to happen. Start a company and hire all the felons then. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 3 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:878704168] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>fenderbender321 posted...</cite> <quote>Crimes are things that have already happened. Not things that are going to happen.</quote> Start a company and hire all the felons then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
green butter 05/08/17 1:42:04 PM #33:	deupd_u posted... green butter posted... if you are a felon you will never work a white collar job for the rest of your life I don't know about that. I had a speaker come to my college who spent a year in prison for fraud (something about over valuing assets in a bank's portfolio he managed), and he still works in the financial industry. i'm sure that guy had a lot of friends in high places and hookups, because if you just apply to a job and check off that you have a felony on your record, your resume is going directly into the trash --- http://i.imgur.com/LhwwG.gif <cite>green butter posted [p:878704195] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>deupd_u posted...</cite> <quote><cite>green butter posted...</cite> <quote>if you are a felon you will never work a white collar job for the rest of your life</quote> I don't know about that. I had a speaker come to my college who spent a year in prison for fraud (something about over valuing assets in a bank's portfolio he managed), and he still works in the financial industry.</quote> i'm sure that guy had a lot of friends in high places and hookups, because if you just apply to a job and check off that you have a felony on your record, your resume is going directly into the trash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dodgefan91 05/08/17 1:47:45 PM #34:	My cousin got a pretty decent job working as a motorcycle mechanic at a place that specialized on high end European bikes. I don't know exactly how many places he applied to but I'm pretty sure he got hired within a couple months of finishing his school (wyotech or something similar). This is all after he got out of jail for assault, kidnapping, various drug charges, and I'm sure some stuff I'm forgetting. Although it probably helped that he was 18 and had no record when this happened. The judge definitely went easy on him and I think potential employers are also more likely to hire a 20 year old who made a mistake 2 years earlier as opposed to someone in their 30's who was still making mistakes. <cite>dodgefan91 posted [p:878704510] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>My cousin got a pretty decent job working as a motorcycle mechanic at a place that specialized on high end European bikes. I don't know exactly how many places he applied to but I'm pretty sure he got hired within a couple months of finishing his school (wyotech or something similar). This is all after he got out of jail for assault, kidnapping, various drug charges, and I'm sure some stuff I'm forgetting. Although it probably helped that he was 18 and had no record when this happened. The judge definitely went easy on him and I think potential employers are also more likely to hire a 20 year old who made a mistake 2 years earlier as opposed to someone in their 30's who was still making mistakes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 05/08/17 1:48:57 PM #35:	Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure. --- N/A <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:878704573] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Stick_1_2_3 05/08/17 2:20:00 PM #37:	Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure. No, it isn't lol. WTF? --- Women who don't shave down there are repulsive <cite>Stick_1_2_3 posted [p:878706463] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote>Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure.</quote> No, it isn't lol. WTF?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 05/08/17 2:55:59 PM #38:	Stick_1_2_3 posted... Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure. No, it isn't lol. WTF? Yes, it is. I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts because they had work experience and/or references prior to their arrest, that's on top of any programs they were a part of that assisted them to find jobs after release. By comparison, I have a clean record, but I'm still the last person anyone will hire for anything because I have zero experience and references. --- N/A <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:878708777] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Stick_1_2_3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote>Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure.</quote> No, it isn't lol. WTF?</quote> Yes, it is. I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts because they had work experience and/or references prior to their arrest, that's on top of any programs they were a part of that assisted them to find jobs after release. By comparison, I have a clean record, but I'm still the last person anyone will hire for anything because I have zero experience and references.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/08/17 2:58:07 PM #39:	Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Stick_1_2_3 posted... Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure. No, it isn't lol. WTF? Yes, it is. I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts because they had work experience and/or references prior to their arrest, that's on top of any programs they were a part of that assisted them to find jobs after release. By comparison, I have a clean record, but I'm still the last person anyone will hire for anything because I have zero experience and references. How in the fuck do you know why companies passed on you? --- Oda break tracker 2017- 3 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:878708910] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stick_1_2_3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote>Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure.</quote> No, it isn't lol. WTF?</quote> Yes, it is. I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts because they had work experience and/or references prior to their arrest, that's on top of any programs they were a part of that assisted them to find jobs after release. By comparison, I have a clean record, but I'm still the last person anyone will hire for anything because I have zero experience and references.</quote> How in the fuck do you know why companies passed on you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenrimis 05/08/17 2:59:35 PM #40:	Any job is pretty straight forward, but a good job will be tough as fuck. We got a meat factory near us that hires felons because they get a tax break for each one they hire. It's a really shitty job with a 70% turnover ratio but they'll hire anyone and you can start working the day of the interview. --- Wave. Why the hell is you salutin'? I saw you crying in the locker room like you Cam Newton. <cite>Fenrimis posted [p:878709006] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Any job is pretty straight forward, but a good job will be tough as fuck. We got a meat factory near us that hires felons because they get a tax break for each one they hire. It's a really shitty job with a 70% turnover ratio but they'll hire anyone and you can start working the day of the interview.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Inferno Dive Dragoon 05/08/17 3:33:49 PM #41:	voldothegr8 posted... Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Stick_1_2_3 posted... Inferno Dive Dragoon posted... Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure. No, it isn't lol. WTF? Yes, it is. I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts because they had work experience and/or references prior to their arrest, that's on top of any programs they were a part of that assisted them to find jobs after release. By comparison, I have a clean record, but I'm still the last person anyone will hire for anything because I have zero experience and references. How in the fuck do you know why companies passed on you? You can pretty much see it on their face/hear it in their voice. I can't count the number of times they get to the part of the application where the fields for work experience/references have "N/A" in them or were left blank and they ask me about that. I tell them exactly what it means, I have none, and almost immediately you can tell their assessment of me has soured beyond recovery and the interview ends pretty quickly afterwards. As for how I know I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts? Mass/fast-track hiring gigs where there's little in the way of interview privacy (so everyone in the room can pretty much hear your answers to the questions being asked) or how some not-so-subtlety divide the 20+ people in the room by various criteria before naming who got in, and sure enough, the ones with any work experience or references always get picked over the ones who have none, having a criminal record is just a complete non-issue to the grand majority of employers I've dealt with. (Could just be a Texas thing, but I doubt it.) Mind you, I'm not against the idea of ex-felons/convicts being given another chance at normalcy (especially when their "most horrendous offense" is some petty shit like marijuana possession), I just find it hard to believe that having a list of priors will scare off employers as much as people claim, especially so when as mentioned, some prisons have programs to assist the released in finding work. --- N/A <cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted [p:878711157] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Stick_1_2_3 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...</cite> <quote>Easier than having no work experience/references, that's for damn sure.</quote> No, it isn't lol. WTF?</quote> Yes, it is. I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts because they had work experience and/or references prior to their arrest, that's on top of any programs they were a part of that assisted them to find jobs after release. By comparison, I have a clean record, but I'm still the last person anyone will hire for anything because I have zero experience and references.</quote> How in the fuck do you know why companies passed on you?</quote> You can pretty much see it on their face/hear it in their voice. I can't count the number of times they get to the part of the application where the fields for work experience/references have "N/A" in them or were left blank and they ask me about that. I tell them exactly what it means, I have none, and almost immediately you can tell their assessment of me has soured beyond recovery and the interview ends pretty quickly afterwards. As for how I know I've been passed over for ex-felons/convicts? Mass/fast-track hiring gigs where there's little in the way of interview privacy (so everyone in the room can pretty much hear your answers to the questions being asked) or how some not-so-subtlety divide the 20+ people in the room by various criteria before naming who got in, and sure enough, the ones with any work experience or references always get picked over the ones who have none, having a criminal record is just a complete non-issue to the grand majority of employers I've dealt with. (Could just be a Texas thing, but I doubt it.) Mind you, I'm not against the idea of ex-felons/convicts being given another chance at normalcy (especially when their "most horrendous offense" is some petty shit like marijuana possession), I just find it hard to believe that having a list of priors will scare off employers as much as people claim, especially so when as mentioned, some prisons have programs to assist the released in finding work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 05/08/17 4:03:30 PM #42:	MangaFan462 posted... Kineth posted... Much less so if you're white than not. Much harder if your a white male Oh stfu, there's no evidence for your statement at all. --- I call them boob implants because saying I'm getting a boobilicious chest full of science isn't likely to catch your attention. -gunplagirl <cite>Kineth posted [p:878712946] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>MangaFan462 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>Much less so if you're white than not.</quote> Much harder if your a white male</quote> Oh stfu, there's no evidence for your statement at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Roxborough4Ever 05/08/17 4:05:13 PM #43:	if you get caught pissing in some bushes near a school at 3 in the morning....your a felon, and dont deserve to work....thats pretty much what i'm reading in this topic --- You feast on red herring because it is your birthright. <cite>Roxborough4Ever posted [p:878713056] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>if you get caught pissing in some bushes near a school at 3 in the morning....your a felon, and dont deserve to work....thats pretty much what i'm reading in this topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 05/08/17 4:06:43 PM #44:	Roxborough4Ever posted... if you get caught pissing in some bushes near a school at 3 in the morning....your a felon, and dont deserve to work....thats pretty much what i'm reading in this topic Nobody is saying they don't deserve to to work, only that it's a cold hard truth they'll be passed up over people with clean records. --- Oda break tracker 2017- 3 (2) Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:878713146] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>Roxborough4Ever posted...</cite> <quote>if you get caught pissing in some bushes near a school at 3 in the morning....your a felon, and dont deserve to work....thats pretty much what i'm reading in this topic</quote> Nobody is saying they don't deserve to to work, only that it's a cold hard truth they'll be passed up over people with clean records.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/09/17 8:35:11 AM #45:	mach25687 posted... Fony posted... My friend got arrested in a big bust in 2011, had his picture in the news and was labeled as the "gang leader". He spent 3 years in jail and pled out, just got off probation a month ago. He got a job like two weeks after release, been promoted to manager now too. It's hard on average, but it depends. If you're skilled you can still find work. So what does he do? Auto body work. Works for a major dealer now as a service manager. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:878754757] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>mach25687 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fony posted...</cite> <quote>My friend got arrested in a big bust in 2011, had his picture in the news and was labeled as the "gang leader". He spent 3 years in jail and pled out, just got off probation a month ago. He got a job like two weeks after release, been promoted to manager now too. It's hard on average, but it depends. If you're skilled you can still find work.</quote> So what does he do?</quote> Auto body work. Works for a major dealer now as a service manager.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
spincr 05/09/17 8:35:54 AM #46:	Easy ofcourse, just lie. --- In 2000, Norad had 67 Intercepts, 100% accuracy. On 9/11 they failed 4 times in 1 day. In 2015 over 162 000 refugee's entered Sweden, 494 of them got a job. <cite>spincr posted [p:878754781] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Easy ofcourse, just lie.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fony 05/09/17 8:41:58 AM #47:	voldothegr8 posted... fire_bolt posted... As a white guy with a violent felony on record, it's only a problem if your pride stops you from working shit jobs. Currently going to school full time for IT stuff and working full time at a recycling plant literally sorting garbage. It sucks, but it pays the bills. Why are you even bothering with school though, nobody gonna hire you in IT with a felony record. It's already a fierce competitive market to get your foot in the door as it is. Not true. --- It's not the end of the world, but we can see it from here. <cite>Fony posted [p:878754974] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>fire_bolt posted...</cite> <quote>As a white guy with a violent felony on record, it's only a problem if your pride stops you from working shit jobs. Currently going to school full time for IT stuff and working full time at a recycling plant literally sorting garbage. It sucks, but it pays the bills.</quote> Why are you even bothering with school though, nobody gonna hire you in IT with a felony record. It's already a fierce competitive market to get your foot in the door as it is.</quote> Not true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WaffIeElite 05/09/17 9:04:39 AM #48:	Not as hard as it should be. Unfortunately there are laws against discrimination and protecting their privacy related to their convictions, so we get to be the guinea pigs. --- I have a signature. Apparently this is important, but I still don't have my secret cool kid decoder ring yet. <cite>WaffIeElite posted [p:878755755] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Not as hard as it should be. Unfortunately there are laws against discrimination and protecting their privacy related to their convictions, so we get to be the guinea pigs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 05/09/17 9:08:45 AM #49:	Papa John's doesn't care. I've seen murderers get manager jobs and there's a murderer that's high up in the area I'm at. --- http://i.imgtc.com/fU5pRVP.jpg http://i.imgtc.com/etNW2apANm.jpg <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:878755910] in So how har... [t:75323908]...</cite> <quote>Papa John's doesn't care. I've seen murderers get manager jobs and there's a murderer that's high up in the area I'm at.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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