Current Events > Had to do an entire group project by myself. Unsure about whether I should tell

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the professor or not.

It was a 3 person group project that involved a creating multiplayer command line game. I reached out to my group mates last week and asked for their availabilities to meet up, got bailed on or no response. I was able to meet up with one of my group mates but she told me she wasn't that good at coding so I told her she could just do the documentation. So like 5 couple of days ago, I create a Github repo and share it with them with some initial code I'd written so far. I finished it this morning and I was the only one to commit anything. I even ended doing the documentation myself because the girl who said she'd do it couldn't do it til the last minute, and even then she said she couldn't understand my code.

I feel like I should get extra credit, if not all the credit. My finals are coming up and I had to take time away from those to do the project. There are three things holding me back though. For one, I'm friends with one of my group mates and if I tell the professor and she gets a lower grade, she'l know. Secondly, I will admit that after noticing that my groupmates weren't contributing, I sort of took it on myself to do all of it and didn't bother delegating work because I didn't know if they'd follow through or do it well. Finally, because I was bearing the majority of the work, the code I wrote wasn't great since I had to do all the modules, testing, and documentation. I feel like this became some of the reason why my group mates didn't commit anything.

Thoughts?
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Time for some good old fashioned blackmail
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You should have told the professor once it was obvious you were being ghosted. Screw the 'friend'. She's an asshole for not pitching in, as is the other person. It was her choice to do no work, so she can take her zero. Don't let your professor reward laziness and negligence. It's people like your group mates that make corporate jobs suck. That shit shouldn't fly, especially in university.
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Alkaloid posted...

You should have told the professor once it was obvious you were being ghosted. Screw the 'friend'. She's an asshole for not pitching in, as is the other person. It was her choice to do no work, so she can take her zero. Don't let your professor reward laziness and negligence. It's people like your group mates that make corporate jobs suck. That shit shouldn't fly, especially in university.

Could I be held accountable for not communicating enough or writing bad code?
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Depends on your teacher

But it sounds like you did try to reach out to your group. They were the ones that bailed or were non-responsive so fuck them. Even your friend. Friends don't leave friends to hang on group projects.
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Snitch


Always snitch
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Tell the professor and have them eat the zero.
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From someone who was always the slacker in group projects, props to dudes like you doing work for people like me!
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Does not telling do any harm to you? Does telling benefit you in any way? Think about whether your actions would actually be useful, or whether they are just out of spite to deliberately harm the others in the group.

As an educator, I would want you to tell. As a person, however, I recommend just thinking carefully about whether your actions are beneficial or solely harmful.
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DragonGirlYuki posted...

Tell the professor and have them eat the zero.

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voldothegr8 posted...

From someone who was always the slacker in group projects, props to dudes like you doing work for people like me!

Small wonder you're a Trump supporter.

tell your prof. those kids need to learn that shit don't fly. don't let lazy morons walk over you, you do the walking.
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COVxy posted...

Does not telling do any harm to you? Does telling benefit you in any way? Think about whether your actions would actually be useful, or whether they are just out of spite to deliberately harm the others in the group.

As an educator, I would want you to tell. As a person, however, I recommend just thinking carefully about whether your actions are beneficial or solely harmful.

Hell no, I'm not thinking of doing it to spite or harm the others. The way the project is graded, every one either sends the professor a number for each member in the project such that the 3 numbers add up to 100, otherwise it is implied that it is 33% each. So If everyone did an equal amount, then everyone gets an equal grade. However, if I was to tell the professor and show her proof that I deserve more, lets say 50% for me and the others 25% each, then I effectively get extra credit since my original share is 33%. Because I had to do the whole project, some modules are buggy, there is error handling that I couldn't get to, and I downright didn't have time for one of the modules. So if everyone gets an equal share, then we'd each not get full credit since parts of the project are missing. However if I got a bigger share, which I deserve imo, I could effectively get a 100% or even more without having a perfect score on the project.
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if this was a group project in your career and you did everything yourself would you tell your boss?

I hope so
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thronedfire2 posted...

if this was a group project in your career and you did everything yourself would you tell your boss?

I hope so

I do deserve credit, but it sucks that I have to do it at the expense of others credit. Even though I know they don't deserve their credit.
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They were selfish when they didn't want to spend their time to help, you can feel fine being selfish to get the benefit of your own work.
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always rat em leeches out. always




unless one of them is attractive
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Dont tell.
Solve it "in house"

Let your group know how fucked up it is to do that to someone.

Learn from this experience. If you the only one who cared, why is that? Maybe youre a natural leader and decent leaders know how to manage time and efforts of their team.

Group leaders need to establish deadlines right away and stick with them. Group leader needs to step up otherwise, something like this happens. It takes time and effort to get projects done. Nothing replaces that. Who cares who did what. You all deserve the grade you get. Dont be the person who covers for themselves because you did what youre supposed to do. This was a group project and your group failed. You need to figure wtf happened and figure out how to motivate your team to getting the project done. Itll take coodination, compromise, and the combined effort.

Was this a last minute thing? Give yourself and your group more time next time to get things done. If you were the last ditch effort, why? Answer this and get with those who will get the job done next time. Theres no excuse for group project participation.

Theres a time to lead and follow. Objectively contributing to your group is a means to accomplish the tasks or projects. You will be taking on various roles throughout your academic and employment career. Know that good leaders are also good followers. Teams/groups are recognized foe their production and people will find individuals who to distinguished for the team/group success.

Ultimately, this project was supposed to share what you learned and use the combined effort to do the project efficiently and effectively. Remember this purpose next time.
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The only advice I can give is always think long-term. If I didn't do anything, I would hold only myself responsible for it and let you take the full grade, since it was entirely my fault. But some people who be really mad at you for that. Do you care about your relationship with these people? Because doing what's right, might not be doing what's righteous.
Like, they don't really deserve anything when it comes to this project, and if they wanted to actively participate on it, that's their own responsibility. YOU had to get things done, because this is important to you. Clearly this isn't important to them, otherwise they would have tried to help.

If it's just about getting a better grade, I don't think you should tell. From what I understand from my time in college, grades are useless in the project-oriented classes, what matters is coming out it with a good portfolio.
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HBOSS posted...

Dont tell.
Solve it "in house"

Let your group know how fucked up it is to do that to someone.

Learn from this experience. If you the only one who cared, why is that? Maybe youre a natural leader and decent leaders know how to manage time and efforts of their team.

Group leaders need to establish deadlines right away and stick with them. Group leader needs to step up otherwise, something like this happens. It takes time and effort to get projects done. Nothing replaces that. Who cares who did what. You all deserve the grade you get. Dont be the person who covers for themselves because you did what youre supposed to do. This was a group project and your group failed. You need to figure wtf happened and figure out how to motivate your team to getting the project done. Itll take coodination, compromise, and the combined effort.

Was this a last minute thing? Give yourself and your group more time next time to get things done. If you were the last ditch effort, why? Answer this and get with those who will get the job done next time. Theres no excuse for group project participation.

Theres a time to lead and follow. Objectively contributing to your group is a means to accomplish the tasks or projects. You will be taking on various roles throughout your academic and employment career. Know that good leaders are also good followers. Teams/groups are recognized foe their production and people will find individuals who to distinguished for the team/group success.

Ultimately, this project was supposed to share what you learned and use the combined effort to do the project efficiently and effectively. Remember this purpose next time.

I agree wholeheartedly with this answer.
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Imagine being the person who gets stuck with all the work. I can't imagine it lol
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Mister_Spyker posted...

The only advice I can give is always think long-term. If I didn't do anything, I would hold only myself responsible for it and let you take the full grade, since it was entirely my fault. But some people who be really mad at you for that. Do you care about your relationship with these people? Because doing what's right, might not be doing what's righteous.
Like, they don't really deserve anything when it comes to this project, and if they wanted to actively participate on it, that's their own responsibility. YOU had to get things done, because this is important to you. Clearly this isn't important to them, otherwise they would have tried to help.

If it's just about getting a better grade, I don't think you should tell. From what I understand from my time in college, grades are useless in the project-oriented classes, what matters is coming out it with a good portfolio.

It is mainly about getting a better grade to be honest. However, both the project and final are big portions of our grades, and I feel that doing all of the project took time away from me that I couldve been studying. Also, considering that up until this point I've only done average on tests, and considering that the final and project are combined worth 55% of our grade, its possible that I can get below a C (C is the min for credit at my uni) and its important that I get every pt I deserve
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TR0P1CZ posted...

Mister_Spyker posted...

The only advice I can give is always think long-term. If I didn't do anything, I would hold only myself responsible for it and let you take the full grade, since it was entirely my fault. But some people who be really mad at you for that. Do you care about your relationship with these people? Because doing what's right, might not be doing what's righteous.
Like, they don't really deserve anything when it comes to this project, and if they wanted to actively participate on it, that's their own responsibility. YOU had to get things done, because this is important to you. Clearly this isn't important to them, otherwise they would have tried to help.

If it's just about getting a better grade, I don't think you should tell. From what I understand from my time in college, grades are useless in the project-oriented classes, what matters is coming out it with a good portfolio.

It is mainly about getting a better grade to be honest. However, both the project and final are big portions of our grades, and I feel that doing all of the project took time away from me that I couldve been studying. Also, considering that up until this point I've only done average on tests, and considering that the final and project are combined worth 55% of our grade, its possible that I can get below a C (C is the min for credit at my uni) and its important that I get every pt I deserve

Well, I hope you pass, whatever you end up doing, good luck.
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to your group: "guys, i did all of the work on this project, ya'll cool if i take all of the credit for it?"

regardless of what they say, take all of the credit

Talk to your professor. Don't let others take advantage of you like this.

Worst case scenario is the professor does nothing about it. Best is that it helps you.
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Do whatever benefits you the most. They don't seem to have any good reasons so no sympathy for them.
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So a girl is taking a coding class and she doesn't knos how to read code?

Why not just make her fail?
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tag
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Kaiganeer posted...

to your group: "guys, i did all of the work on this project, ya'll cool if i take all of the credit for it?"

regardless of what they say, take all of the credit

Yeah, and when they all instantly say no just be like "oh, now you can respond to me"
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I brought it up to the professor. I'll be getting some extra points, but the bad thing is that the prof will be contacting my group members about their lack of work. Idk if it was worth it tbh
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Feel pretty shitty tbh. I feel like I should've just tried harder and been even more direct with my communication
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fuck 'em
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snitches get stitches brah

jk, if they were just randos that you got grouped with i wouldn't feel too bad
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TR0P1CZ posted...

I brought it up to the professor. I'll be getting some extra points, but the bad thing is that the prof will be contacting my group members about their lack of work. Idk if it was worth it tbh

Why would you feel bad? They clearly didn't feel bad about sticking you with the entire project. Fuck em.
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TR0P1CZ posted...

Feel pretty shitty tbh. I feel like I should've just tried harder and been even more direct with my communication

Don't. You are not responsible for the poor decisions of others.
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Look at it this way TC...

Your "friend" isn't really your friend if they stuck you with all the work. Be real with yourself. That friend is just a female that's nice to you and can't code in a coding class.

You owe those people nothing. Literally nothing.
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Blackmail and get the dolla dolla you know holla holla?
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