Current Events > Wait so what's so fucking bad about Metal Gear Solid V: TPP?

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The reviews seem really good on gaming websites like IGN, Gamespot, etc.

but there are actually a handful of people (some people from my college too) who seem to be disappointed in this game. Something about like it seemed empty, story didn't kinda make sense, or something.
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Kojima asked for more time to finish the game, Konami said no after it was already delayed I think like twice. So everything just falls apart in the second half story wise.
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*Still waiting for chapter 3*
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Its literally not finished. The second half of the game was largely cut without replacement. Including the ending. That's not an exaggeration, the game doesn't have an ending. You have to watch the unfinished storyboard on YouTube to see what it would have been.
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The gameplay was fantastic, but it was too god damn repetitive. And yeah, unfinished story.
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CowboyDan posted...

Its literally not finished. The second half of the game was largely cut without replacement. Including the ending. That's not an exaggeration, the game doesn't have an ending. You have to watch the unfinished storyboard on YouTube to see what it would have been.

gmanthebest posted...

The gameplay was fantastic, but it was too god damn repetitive. And yeah, unfinished story.

These. It's fun but...yeah.
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Well, when everyone called his last major game a movie and not a video game...
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Fantastic gameplay wasted on piss poor design.

A HORRIBLE second chapter that was mostly rehashed missions with modifiers on them (should be a side op or a modifier instead)

Abrupt ending (finale mission pops up with no warning or explanation)

I'll even give that the ending itself was.... okay. Not great by any means but I'm not as upset with it as most others seemed to be.

And a personal nitpick of mine I fucking hate when you have to kill all your infected soldiers in that one mission and you still get deducted Hero points. Fucking please it takes long enough as it is to get those points.

And finally the finale was so fucking tedious.

Damn near everything except for the controls.
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Gameplay mechanics were fantanstic. Everything else was utter garbage.
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o wow
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Story. MGS had by far the best plot in any video game 1-4 imo. 5 fell way flat

Barren, unnecessary open world. Could've had a bunch of sandbox GZ style missions like Hitman. Instead, we got two big levels with nothing to do.
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A Hideo Kojima Game.
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Kelystic posted...

A Hideo Kojima Game.

A Hideo Kojima Game

Also the fucking long chopper ride intro each and every damn mission.

Go_Totodile posted...

Also the fucking long chopper ride intro each and every damn mission.

Along with spoiling who will be in the mission in the intro credits.

"And starring X voice actor as character Y!"

"Well...thanks for letting me know he's gonna be here. I guess."
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- Literally cut out 1-2 whole chapters. So the game is only 2 chapters long total.

- Cut out the ability to customize your own metal gear and use it on the field.

-Cut out the final fight against Liquid and Metal gear along with the psychic boy

- Rushed ending and twist that makes no sense with the way they just threw it on you

- Replay the whole of the first hour of the game just to reveal said ending

- Cut out the Ground Zeroes stage. Kojima said we were supposed to go back there and something big was supposed to happen.

- Lack of voicelines from Big Boss. Keifer was a great voice actor but that doesn't take away from the fact that he barely even spoke.

- Barely any cutscenes or story in the game. Hell, they took out many cutscenes that we saw in the trailers.

-The Paz reveal was supposed to be continued in chapter 3 called "peace" which makes much more sense considering its Paz

- Removal or leaving out possible areas including Soviet Russia.

- The Skull Face base was supposed to be bigger as well according to rumors. Apparently we could do large scale battles which included our own Outer Haven members against the Skull Face army. The reason this was omitted was because of the PS3/360. Skull Faces stage was supposed to be a massive mix between stealth and all out war.

- Removal of many enemy units including guard dogs

And so much more. Overall it was a fun game, but it felt like a shell of something so much bigger.
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It exists.
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Wasssup Now posted...

Story. MGS had by far the best plot in any video game 1-4 imo. 5 fell way flat

LMAO no
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*rolls eyes*
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I honestly think if it was finished it would have been one of the greatest, if not THE best game ever made though.

I mean the gameplay was SO fucking good. I put in 200+ hours on that gameplay hating everything else about it. That says a LOT.
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Hmmm so they are not going to release any DLCs for the single player then to resolve the story at least? I dunno much about the series and the company. I think some of my friends say something the people on the development team left the company or something like that, not too sure.
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SamusGlory posted...

Hmmm so they are not going to release any DLCs for the single player then to resolve the story at least? I dunno much about the series and the company. I think some of my friends say something the people on the development team left the company or something like that, not too sure.

Kojimas gone from Konami. Don't expect anything big from the Metal Gear series anymore.
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SpiritSephiroth posted...

Cut out the final fight against Liquid and Metal gear along with the psychic boy

That was fucking awful too.
Let's just let Liquid steal a fucking METAL GEAR and never fucking resolve that plot point. At all.

The core gameplay is good.

Everything else is either meh or terrible.

The only returning characters who actually have interesting arcs are Kaz and Huey, other characters act completely out of character to the point where Ocelot may as well be Alligator from Peace Walker.

Skull Face is nothing like how he was in GZ, and ends up more laughable than Cold Man (he also starts the game by pushing a crippled person down a stair case).
He turns out to be a janitor for FOX that watched BB during Snake Eater and his genius plan to get revenge on the Soviet Union invading his home is to kill English (yes the language itself) because he somehow blames the US for this, and wants to end the US as a world power.

The new characters all suck, Portable Ops legitimately had better ones.

The entire Africa section of the game is completely pointless storywise, they have no reason to go there and all the arcs are either opened and closed there or end up unfinished.

The missions are hugely repetitive to the point where GZ actually had more side mission variation.

MB is mess, there's no reason to visit the physical location aside from the shower, the actual management is worse than Peace Walker.

I could go on if you want to know anything.
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HaVeNII7 posted...

I honestly think if it was finished it would have been one of the greatest, if not THE best game ever made though.

This is how I feel. I was way too over hyped for TPP and even bought the collector's edition, which I've never bought before for any game, but I really do believe it could've been one of the best games ever. Hell, all they had to do, at least for me, was to have better designed and more varied levels and locations, with a better story that connects to the gameplay more. There didn't even have to have a lot of twists and shit, I would've loved a story about the downfall of Big Boss, even if it was predictable.

A lot of what's there is good, but its just so clearly unfinished and rushed out the door that its hard to enjoy the game without thinking what could've been. Playing it back, it really does feel like they've only completed 25% of the game, there's just that much that reeks of being unfinished.

Another thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that they cut Chico from the game. He was supposed to be in it as an adult, but they just wrote it so he died in the crash during GZ. The concept art for how he was in TPP looked really cool though.

They were handcuffed by Konami wanting the game to be a cross generational game so they couldn't make any geography more complex than a 360 could handle. The game was unable to be finished due to Konami not wanting to delay it again (which is kinda understandable since it was already delayed multiple times... but also sucks since the reason why they were going so slow is due to the platform issues), the game's story seems both incomplete and rushed in places. The trailers for the game are pretty much all the cutscenes in the game.

Gameplay wise it's the best Metal Gear, but story wise I'd say it's the worst.
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It's weird because I agree with all of the criticism but I've put more time into V than all of the other MGS games combined. It's so damn fun to play and it would've been amazing if they had condensed the game and finished the story.
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Fuck Kojima and fuck Konami.
That's all I, and most other MGS fans who've followed the series since the beginning, have to say on the subject.

There are a hundred different ways to take out or sneak past enemies, however every outpost only has 3-5 enemies so it's all for naught.

The actual bases are few and far between.
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MGSV was the best game in the MGS series but it was the worst movie in the MGS series
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after chapter 1 i had no compulsion to finish the game. I felt like i've already resolved the conflict and the new one seems boring
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Didn't the game show a "COMING UP ON CHAPTER 2" thing when you beat chapter 1? And didn't it even have cutscenes that weren't in chapter 2? Maybe I'm remembering wrong. Could be thinking of a trailer.
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Xeno14 posted...

after chapter 1 i had no compulsion to finish the game. I felt like i've already resolved the conflict and the new one seems boring

Honestly it's probably for the best to just finish chapter 1 and call it a game. Chapter 2 is where it really goes to shit.

The open world is inherently pointless.
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